Tbh I’m only counting “shite” because I wouldn’t use it when I’m talking to my friends’ parents who still think I’m a good kid Edit: also we’re holding Sideshow to a much lower bar because it’s Sideshow
@@Venomx-nb1jr Riot has protections for season-long contracts and yearlies, but the bench can technically retain as many 7 day contracts they want, which they can then field as their starters. But in all honesty the season's so fken packed the free agents gotta have balls of steel to try and crowbar their way into a contract. TL:DR -> In theory the Som and FNS mercenary duo is possible, but i cant see anyone besides EG calling them up to join up with Derrek and shi
WE LOVE FNS, SO FUNNY AND CHARISMATIC BRING HIM BACK ASAP I THINK HE AND MIMI HAVE A SIMILAR SENSE OF HUMOR AND WOULD GEL WELL ON THE SHOW. LOVE THE STREAM AS ALWAYS
Saadhak and Less had said multiple times on stream that they will try to innovate more because they have qck as a duelist who can play other roles too. One of the reasons saad said as to why they chose to get peu instead of keeping frod is because frod was a bit resistent of the different things saadhak/less were trying to implement on the team. This is all stuff that they all said on interviews/streams, all public shit but in pt-br so i think you guys weren't aware of that
Fnatic has atleast 4 Teams that are actually insane now. Old FPX roster is back, Vitality looks insane, Liquid is up thete, FUT a better contender with Cned
@@21amaterasu51 FUT looks scary man. Honestly Qw1 was rlly good mechanically but he overheated and always seemed so out of sync with everyone else in that team playing defaults which is why FUT had insane aim but weakest util usage in all the champions teams. Now that Cned has come who has experience playing at the highest level and how to win I think FUT is looking much better.
@@21amaterasu51 Eh, of all those teams, only Liquid looks decent to me. And you didn't even mention NAVI, which to me is the closest the coming season to Fnatic.
Back here after NRG placed last after Split 1. I like Puchan and much respect towards him for the amount of trust he had in his former teammates (including Ethan). But after watching numerous of his watchparty vods this year, I think he already had in mind how this team lacks an actual leader, not just in strats but vibe (or a leader figure) to keep the team in check. Bc NRG just seems lost mid way through many of their rounds or 7-8 rounds into the game where they just execute their gameplan without any regard to the actual situation. It feels like Chet has a playbook for set gameplans, Crashies and Ethan can midround, but then when the opponent does not response the way that NRG anticipated or if NRG suddenly lost a key player of the round, how do they carry out the rest of the round based on the info they gathered?
I think killing Skye will make for some more interesting team comps. She should probably get buffed back tho. Bring back the regeneration of abilities just make it really long like 50 seconds.
hard agree w FNS about breeze. hate bringing halls back. it was way too easy to attack. it forces you right back into certain comps again and dbl sentinel will be essential. harbor is offically meta w this change because his wall goes straight up the hallway and his abilities allow you to be mobile and you can re wall. he will be an absolute necessity.
27:26 All I'm saying is it's not acceptable to have a lot of teams play fewer games per year than NFL teams who play in arguably the most physically demanding league in the world. There are many different ways to format the vct and this one isnt graet (especially with such a long off season where nothing happens)
@@musculusiv4172 It all depends on what you consider physical damand. If you mean brute strength its probably weight lifting, boxing or some other martial art. If you think its running NFL doesnt come close to Australian Football, NFL players run about 2 km per game, while AFL is around 12-14. Also triathlons are even more cardio.
The LOUD disrespect, FNS u are done for. 😁 But seriously though I feel maybe LOUD are maybe looked down a little too much. Aspas cannot be straight up replaced 1 to 1 but maybe they don't need to even if qck can be as good as some1 like mw or Keznit I feel they can still be a top 2 team.
yea but every year there will be a new team and they stop at 14. next year the team that makes it in NA will still play with g2 who’d be in their second year, and when g2 leaves there will be another another team in their first year
NRG looks so good on paper, but it’s really difficult to see that lineup of players and then no FNS and SOM or YAY. Ethan and DMN1 have MASSIVE shoes to fill. I’d love to hear what everyone has to say about it as in from the team and fns and som. Doesn’t seem like there’s any hard feelings but I don’t think either som or fns are remotely washed.
34:10 No, 11 or 13 teams is literally not an excuse for the kickoff format! If they just did a half-split as a qualifier like FNS suggested then there would be no need for such a corrupted bracket!
8:29 Paper rex being Paper rex They don't make sense as a team. They take confidence based decisions with some weird badass comps and the team still manages to win. somehow. They are the freaking worst nightmare of an armchair analyst. They never follow any rule they play the game that way the moba crowd hates. Words of wisdom by Bren 😂😂
@@peterthompson350no it doesn’t lol with the regen you can flash like 4 to 5 times a round damn near it’s pretty much the same thing if she has 3 flashes
"This format won't work in the future" Does brother know we can change the schedule to accommodate the number the teams ahead of time. Was actually surprised Rito didn't do that.
He gave the cliff notes version of his point there, in the full vid he went more in depth about how the pr of creating this perfect system that’s only possible now, but not in a couple of years (meaning they’d have to then make it worse), is not something riot would ever want to do. Probably not the best explanation, so if you want a better one watch sideshow’s long ass vid
When do you use all 3 flashes in a round and get value out of all 3? It ain't that crazy of a nerf, there was no reason for her to have an info gathering dog who has the most range of all the drones other than thrash, regenerating flashes, a fucking heal with up to 400hp healing, AND an info gathering ult She's still gonna be used
@@343JustMe She only has 2 flashes, (the third was because it regenerated) and the heal is rarely going to heal more than 100 within a round, plus with the dog changes from the patch before, she is pretty useless now with her info gathering skills being drastically reeled in. Her ult and heal are still decent but were never the reasons you picked her. Another Riot balancing L where they hit everything but the problem and then hit the core issue after nerfing everything else around it, same thing happened with Chamber (his tp) and Jett (with her dash). btw, i didn't even really play Skye but the way they balance this game sometimes baffles me
@@jackbrinkley1809 she has a better drone than sova, she has better flashes than kayo gekko and breach, she has better healing than sage, and she has a pretty mid ult compared to the rest of the initiators. She isn't dead, she's just less viable. I know she only has 2 flashes I main her ☠️, but that's what I'm saying the regen never did that much anyway other than when you're on 1 flash buys. Her dog without even the fact that it jumps is better than the prowler, sova drone, and wingman. The fact that I main Skye and have an 80% winrate with her and I don't even think the changes are substantial should say a lot
For the first time they talked about loud like that actually know what they are talking about. Loud was never Just abou aspas, and they Stills a contender, yeah it's a downgrade but not that much
Plat Chat Demonetizing Moment of the Stream Timer (Episode 163):
1:38
*FAILURE*
Record for 2024: 0-4 (.000)
Culprit - Sideshow (1)
Leaderboard:
1. Balla (1)
2. Bren (1)
3. mCe (1)
4. Sideshow (1)
The competiton is heating up 🔥🔥
So funny because they thought it was balla but sideshow messed up way earlier 😂
Although idk if they would demonetize for shite
This ep isn't demonetized
Tbh I’m only counting “shite” because I wouldn’t use it when I’m talking to my friends’ parents who still think I’m a good kid
Edit: also we’re holding Sideshow to a much lower bar because it’s Sideshow
FNS has got to come back again, for the Top 20 Player list before Madrid at the very least
"You guys dont understand just how fking good this guy was"
*points at Yosemite*
fns and som dropping in mid season to ruin the hopes and dreams of a cinderella team will be my dream for the year
All of that just for a drop of blood - LOUD, probably
@@felipecagorago Flyquest listening to Fenis and Som convincing how BabyJ is their saviour
are they free agents? cause if so thats absurd
@@Venomx-nb1jr
Riot has protections for season-long contracts and yearlies, but the bench can technically retain as many 7 day contracts they want, which they can then field as their starters.
But in all honesty the season's so fken packed the free agents gotta have balls of steel to try and crowbar their way into a contract.
TL:DR -> In theory the Som and FNS mercenary duo is possible, but i cant see anyone besides EG calling them up to join up with Derrek and shi
@@kaikwon1604 you think FNS would be caught dead at EG hahahaha?
FNS igling plat chat through power rankings is great
Fenis being the calmest person in the whole podcast really speaks volume 😂
SO HAPPY WE GOT FNS ON A 3 HOUR EP
1:59:58 already got a contender for next years awards lmao
there is no way this doesnt win right
Wyatt was just being analytical is all. You can't spell analytical without...lyt
WE LOVE FNS, SO FUNNY AND CHARISMATIC BRING HIM BACK ASAP I THINK HE AND MIMI HAVE A SIMILAR SENSE OF HUMOR AND WOULD GEL WELL ON THE SHOW. LOVE THE STREAM AS ALWAYS
Gotta get FNS back, he was great. I wanna see him in the chaos of the top 20.
Sideshow switching tones on Sentinels now that FNS is there is actually hilarious 😂😂
Saadhak and Less had said multiple times on stream that they will try to innovate more because they have qck as a duelist who can play other roles too. One of the reasons saad said as to why they chose to get peu instead of keeping frod is because frod was a bit resistent of the different things saadhak/less were trying to implement on the team. This is all stuff that they all said on interviews/streams, all public shit but in pt-br so i think you guys weren't aware of that
Fns mimi bren josh would be the funniest lineup for that madrid ranking
Do the same episode for EU but get OUR BOY Boaster in.
WE SHOULD GET SCREAM
@@vaupen3282 SCREAM-Sideshow together
I will be there to witness that historic plat chat episode
Thank you for getting FNS on! I hope he returns
ADS? ON A PLATCHAT EPISODE!?!?! Incredible good job guys
'I am an ANT, looking at a SUPERNOVA' man I love Sideshow
2:19:43 this aged quick W jinx by sideshow. CONGRATS SEN! WELL-DESERVED WIN
Really want to know what you think of EMEA after this! I know, Fnatic is S-tier and has the same roster, but still!
Fnatic has atleast 4 Teams that are actually insane now. Old FPX roster is back, Vitality looks insane, Liquid is up thete, FUT a better contender with Cned
@@21amaterasu51 FUT looks scary man. Honestly Qw1 was rlly good mechanically but he overheated and always seemed so out of sync with everyone else in that team playing defaults which is why FUT had insane aim but weakest util usage in all the champions teams. Now that Cned has come who has experience playing at the highest level and how to win I think FUT is looking much better.
@@21amaterasu51 Eh, of all those teams, only Liquid looks decent to me. And you didn't even mention NAVI, which to me is the closest the coming season to Fnatic.
@@concero2496 he did mention navi, which is the old fpx roster.
Back here after NRG placed last after Split 1. I like Puchan and much respect towards him for the amount of trust he had in his former teammates (including Ethan). But after watching numerous of his watchparty vods this year, I think he already had in mind how this team lacks an actual leader, not just in strats but vibe (or a leader figure) to keep the team in check. Bc NRG just seems lost mid way through many of their rounds or 7-8 rounds into the game where they just execute their gameplan without any regard to the actual situation. It feels like Chet has a playbook for set gameplans, Crashies and Ethan can midround, but then when the opponent does not response the way that NRG anticipated or if NRG suddenly lost a key player of the round, how do they carry out the rest of the round based on the info they gathered?
I think killing Skye will make for some more interesting team comps. She should probably get buffed back tho. Bring back the regeneration of abilities just make it really long like 50 seconds.
The entire active SEN roster got glasses + kaplan 😮
zekken fr going blind just to be different
@seaBBB sen got tenz tenz, Filipino tenz, bald tenz, Mexican tenz and THICCcC tenz
@@PuminAegerterhe’s moroccan😭
I wonder if we’ll get FNS on the analysis desk in Americas League this year, would be cool
Nzr can go to any other south american team besides loud and improve them instantly
Man, sideshow was cookin with his TenZ crazy omen shit
Not wyatt saying I’m just getting started while looking at the pic 😂😂😂 #platchat awards
watch saadhak play raze/entry the entire year for loud
Bro saadhak it’s going to be a beast 🤣🤣🤣
I wonder if Wyatt can do a Joe Swanson from family guy impression.
FNS was an S tier guest here
With 100T watching them was like watching a top team in 2021, definitely did not adapt with the rest of the league in 2023.
never forget that ange1 was s1mples first IGL
Great episode guys
I used bilibili to help me check my AP physics answers. Just wanted to throw that out there
hard agree w FNS about breeze. hate bringing halls back. it was way too easy to attack. it forces you right back into certain comps again and dbl sentinel will be essential. harbor is offically meta w this change because his wall goes straight up the hallway and his abilities allow you to be mobile and you can re wall. he will be an absolute necessity.
Bro the people in the live chat telling balla that some mysterious global club soccer tournament that incorporates any region
27:26 All I'm saying is it's not acceptable to have a lot of teams play fewer games per year than NFL teams who play in arguably the most physically demanding league in the world.
There are many different ways to format the vct and this one isnt graet (especially with such a long off season where nothing happens)
brother you can't just blindly compare minimum matches
there's more to it
@@acac-pq8bq Ofc there's more to it I'm just saying there would have been so many ways to avoid this
NFL the most physically demanding in the world? What an American take lmao
@@Treite Lmao I'm not even american. If not the NFL what is it then?
@@musculusiv4172 It all depends on what you consider physical damand. If you mean brute strength its probably weight lifting, boxing or some other martial art. If you think its running NFL doesnt come close to Australian Football, NFL players run about 2 km per game, while AFL is around 12-14. Also triathlons are even more cardio.
yesss fns is here and hope he comes back, especially next week for those player rankings!
Seeing Balla hyping up NRG team in front of FNS really made me giggle. Fns there be like 😐
Kurt Goated Producer actually, KGP!
I got that same hoodie as balla, he is rocking that piece
The LOUD disrespect, FNS u are done for. 😁 But seriously though I feel maybe LOUD are maybe looked down a little too much. Aspas cannot be straight up replaced 1 to 1 but maybe they don't need to even if qck can be as good as some1 like mw or Keznit I feel they can still be a top 2 team.
Less is the real mvp for them tbh😈
31:10 can someone explain how will there be 14 teams? the Ascension teams get only 2 years right?
yea but every year there will be a new team and they stop at 14. next year the team that makes it in NA will still play with g2 who’d be in their second year, and when g2 leaves there will be another another team in their first year
@@shaicryhow does that make 14 tho
I am probably so wrong but I think they will let 2 more teams be permanent in the league, so 12 locked teams and then 2 ascension teams rotating
@@kuramauchiha153 starting 2026 two teams will make it out of ascension
NRG looks so good on paper, but it’s really difficult to see that lineup of players and then no FNS and SOM or YAY. Ethan and DMN1 have MASSIVE shoes to fill. I’d love to hear what everyone has to say about it as in from the team and fns and som. Doesn’t seem like there’s any hard feelings but I don’t think either som or fns are remotely washed.
Gotta love seeing the Fenis get pulled out
Haven't had interest in the comp scene since FNS left, but if FNS on the podcast/desk becomes a thing, SIGN ME THE FUCK UP.
fns is one of my favorite guests, he's analytical but also hysterical
It is Swiss bo3s in Madrid btw. It says on liquidpedia
THEY DIDNT GET DEMONTIZED IT GOT A BILLION ADS LETS GOOOOO.
Bruh FNS goated guest thank you plat chat
Pearl and Fracture ❤
fns & balla synergy goes hard
Plat Chat should play DnD
34:10 No, 11 or 13 teams is literally not an excuse for the kickoff format! If they just did a half-split as a qualifier like FNS suggested then there would be no need for such a corrupted bracket!
Shouldn’t for kickoff nrg be lower since they just got Ethan and demon1? Maybe later in the season you could put them higher
Yeeeeaaaahhhh… but it’s demon1 lmao
Should have mentioned that all of Rare Atom moved to JDG and are now in the league, yoman is unclear atm
Really? If it's true then I am happy for them they can improve a lot if they gets exp from big matches
we needs a platchat episode witg only guests, fns, mce, sliggy and Leo faria would go crazy
Call the episode diamond chat lmao
8:29 Paper rex being Paper rex
They don't make sense as a team. They take confidence based decisions with some weird badass comps and the team still manages to win.
somehow. They are the freaking worst nightmare of an armchair analyst. They never follow any rule they play the game that way the moba crowd hates.
Words of wisdom by Bren 😂😂
platchat has now peaked
Lmao the thumbnail of FNS
need more fenis on the show really.
If anyone is wondering about kru, I just matched into mta and he fried us on Jett
Dang FNS really filling in that shirt🥵
I love having fans on bring him againm
the thumbnail is pure criminal btw
masterclass
omg father fenis
Do we not have lcq?
tex chamber kinda goated
1:51:00 confirmed S0m and Fenis couple?!?!@??!
FNS too down to earth for these power ranking episodes
my man pancada... need him to play
FNS BABY
W guest
I think with this nerf they should’ve added her third flash back…
That just defeats the purpose of the nerf lol, that just makes her better.
@@peterthompson350no it doesn’t lol with the regen you can flash like 4 to 5 times a round damn near it’s pretty much the same thing if she has 3 flashes
1:31:15 well, literally not bc felony is a common law term; one was convicted and served a sentence one didn;t
the amount of people saying sideshow and balla are glazing are absurd
FENIS!!!!
1:34:48 ONE PIECE!!!!?!!?!!
1:59:00
Didnt Fúria beat C9 TWO times in superdome?
quick reminder that old Team Liquid ran Phoenix and slapped Optic on Breeze in champions......................
need some more pro players on great to hear fns takes
1:02:40
1:41:20
My goat FNS
FENISSSSSSS
"This format won't work in the future"
Does brother know we can change the schedule to accommodate the number the teams ahead of time. Was actually surprised Rito didn't do that.
He gave the cliff notes version of his point there, in the full vid he went more in depth about how the pr of creating this perfect system that’s only possible now, but not in a couple of years (meaning they’d have to then make it worse), is not something riot would ever want to do. Probably not the best explanation, so if you want a better one watch sideshow’s long ass vid
PlatChat 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
fenis
Can’t wait for fns to come back when the map pool changes and kill NRG for no reason.
Skye having *zero* regenerating information utility has killed her. She is now useless. Congratulations Riot.
When do you use all 3 flashes in a round and get value out of all 3? It ain't that crazy of a nerf, there was no reason for her to have an info gathering dog who has the most range of all the drones other than thrash, regenerating flashes, a fucking heal with up to 400hp healing, AND an info gathering ult
She's still gonna be used
@@343JustMe She only has 2 flashes, (the third was because it regenerated) and the heal is rarely going to heal more than 100 within a round, plus with the dog changes from the patch before, she is pretty useless now with her info gathering skills being drastically reeled in. Her ult and heal are still decent but were never the reasons you picked her.
Another Riot balancing L where they hit everything but the problem and then hit the core issue after nerfing everything else around it, same thing happened with Chamber (his tp) and Jett (with her dash).
btw, i didn't even really play Skye but the way they balance this game sometimes baffles me
@@jackbrinkley1809 she has a better drone than sova, she has better flashes than kayo gekko and breach, she has better healing than sage, and she has a pretty mid ult compared to the rest of the initiators.
She isn't dead, she's just less viable.
I know she only has 2 flashes I main her ☠️, but that's what I'm saying the regen never did that much anyway other than when you're on 1 flash buys.
Her dog without even the fact that it jumps is better than the prowler, sova drone, and wingman.
The fact that I main Skye and have an 80% winrate with her and I don't even think the changes are substantial should say a lot
@@343JustMenah better drone than sova is arguable, they both have their strengths
@@HaydenDom in terms of info gathering and space making the Skye dog is far better
2:01:12
FENIS
Why hath the people forgotten Potter. Fuck the org, but EG will end up being towards the upper middle.
Fenis
Fns ! Nice
WE GOT FNS LETS GOOOOOOO
For the first time they talked about loud like that actually know what they are talking about. Loud was never Just abou aspas, and they Stills a contender, yeah it's a downgrade but not that much
Skye fake flashes are gone?
IDK about international events BUT Loud will win americas again easily
FNS my goat