I Played Marvel Rivals for 7 Days to Prove it's Better Than Overwatch

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  • @coach_mills
    @coach_mills  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    How are you feeling about Marvel Rivals?
    Follow me on stream - www.twitch.tv/coach_mills

    • @DontFeedTheTrolls
      @DontFeedTheTrolls 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Never played Overwatch; Love Marvel Rivals! Thanks for the pro-tips and assessments... I followed your Twitch. Cheers!

    • @akheelwaugh3921
      @akheelwaugh3921 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My ryzen 9 7000 series and rtx 4070 plays this game at 110 fps constant but 70 at the lowest sounds like 4060 ti lacking a bit of power my guy I got the game on ultra quality and everything else set to high sounds yea maybe you need a little upgrade 😅

  • @lockednloaded9867
    @lockednloaded9867 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +113

    I have no desire to play overwatch anymore. While the optimization and movement is way better, there is no soul in overwatch. Overwatch feels like an empty corporate cash grab front. Marvel rivals feels like being a kid again and finding a great game.

    • @thomasschuldt9001
      @thomasschuldt9001 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      thx god the ow toxicity is mostly in low rank marvels, higher up ppl are more mature. ( mostly )

  • @oWiKio
    @oWiKio 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    I also had ZERO interest in the game until launch, played it and immedietly loved it and realized how much fresher and better it was to OW. Also the fact that ALL HEROES are unlpcked is amazing. the monetization in the game also seems very fair. I bought the BP since it was only 5$, if they keep this up the game is gonna be BIG!

  • @starsnoireart
    @starsnoireart 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I played OW for 6 years and right now, I think Marvel Rivals is more fun than Overwatch because it completely nails the hero fantasy.
    It allows characters to feel powerful and impactful throughout every moment of gameplay. Buildings get destroyed, the maps have immense verticality so that flying through space feels epic. That’s something that I think OW has been missing for too long. We only get glimpses of power fantasies through game modes like the one where they added hero talents on each round.
    Where I agree with you though is with the characters. I was incredibly disappointed that they made the same mistake as Overwatch with the roster. I’m a support main - I don’t play any other role. And of the few supports we have, I only “love” Cloak & Dagger. Half of the supports aren’t appealing to me character-design wise, and the other half have kits that I don’t vibe with. Overwatch does a great job of releasing appealing supports that have cute designs and exciting gameplay. Only problem is that it took 8 years to get to that point…
    Anyway, my PC only has space for one game right now (either Rivals or OW, not both), and I’m really enjoying Rivals. It’s a lot of fun. I just hope they give the support / vanguard roster more attention in the near future and don’t take 8 years to fix this problem.
    And I hope they don’t balance all the fun out of the game. I’m hoping that the ban system, the team-ups, and the seasonal bonuses will naturally shift metas so that balance patches don’t have to be so dramatic.

  • @defenestrate7544
    @defenestrate7544 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

    If you like overwatch, you probably enjoy team based hero shooters. There hasn’t been a good 2nd option for 8 years. We are allowed to be tired of playing the same game for 8 years. That doesn’t mean OW is bad, or dead. New games, when made well, are exciting. So I don’T think OW is dead at all, but I do wonder if the reign is over, now that something else exists to draw that player base.

    • @theSato
      @theSato 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      yeah, it's literally just a honeymoon phase with "a new thing that doesn't suck". Rivals is the new Flavor of the Month game. Is it good? Exciting? Yes, and I hope it succeeds.
      But man, people are dumb if they think Overwatch is dying or Rivals is "so much better". They are just different games, with different pros&cons.

    • @frenzzy07
      @frenzzy07 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@theSatooverwatch 2 is genuinely shit though

    • @haydenshangout851
      @haydenshangout851 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@frenzzy07up to opinion, after taking breaks from the game I start to genuinely enjoy the game again, even with its issues I still enjoy coming home and playing the game

    • @golcy2042
      @golcy2042 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@theSatoehh I think “flavor of the month” is a stretch. Most hero shooters fall flat on their face right off launch. Marvel rivals is experiencing unheard of success in the genre by anyone not named overwatch, and I think they did a lot of things right that’ll draw people (myself included) away from overwatch. They nailed the “hero” feeling. Nearly every character feels completely unique like you’re playing an entirely different playstyle each time. The maps (while yes I agree there aren’t enough of them yet) have destruction physics making them feel impactful with a lot of verticality and different ways to play. There’s also just the “nerdy” side of it being a marvel IP with tons of interesting characters and established lore that’ll draw people who don’t even play hero shooters. It still has balancing and optimization issues as expected for a brand new game, but if they use this momentum to build on their game I could 100% see this being a long term overwatch competitor if not overtaking it.

  • @MoodyHam
    @MoodyHam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    Overwatch is definitely more optimized, but Rivals is simply more fun. Without Rivals doing a push for quality of life improvements before dropping more heroes, it could hurt the game potentially. Depends on what content they drop I supposed. IMO I think the game needs to polish before anything, there’s just something off with gameplay that doesn’t hit how OG Overwatch hit at launch

    • @Xiatter
      @Xiatter 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I still think Overwatch is more fun. Rivals is wonderful, but it's new and needs some of the bigger annoyances ironed out, imo.

    • @MoodyHam
      @MoodyHam 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @ I can agree with that actually. Rivals is new so it’s a new fun. I would say launch Overwatch was more fun but I wouldn’t say Overwatch now is more fun than Rivals. Hopefully ironing out the issues will let us know for sure if it’ll be here to stay or if it’ll be a fad

    • @yerp6726
      @yerp6726 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I think rivals can fix the roller cube problem just by making the tank and healing classes more appealing mantis Cloaking&danger Luna snow Rivals might be able to retain a bunch of different players that wouldn't have kept with overwatch

    • @Kethra430
      @Kethra430 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you

    • @RellshouldBsleep
      @RellshouldBsleep 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it runs smoothly on my Xbox series X, Overwatch has had years to polish the game give this time they will do they same they can’t fail. They literally copied a successful business model and added characters that people know and love and are already invested in. That’s the biggest hurdle with hero shooters, I don’t even play those games don’t like them, but I’ve been binging Marvel Rivals

  • @UnBoundReviews
    @UnBoundReviews 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    "Again and again, I found myself locking Buccee" that was fire writing 😂 4:16

  • @Spanishflea.
    @Spanishflea. 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    It doesnt feel like crap to lose in rivals. You lose because the other team was just better.
    In overwatch you can lose the game in the heroselect screen.

    • @superhero6502
      @superhero6502 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      you’re just saying that because the game just came out, so obviously you’re still enjoying it and the honeymoon phase makes you accept your losses. ow has been out for 8 years so the excitement has worn off

    • @Spanishflea.
      @Spanishflea. 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @superhero6502 cope

    • @superhero6502
      @superhero6502 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Spanishflea. your og comment is LITERALLY the definition of cope

    • @Spanishflea.
      @Spanishflea. 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @superhero6502 don't overindulge in copium, it's addictive.

    • @fugitive6549
      @fugitive6549 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Spanishflea. bro, that's literally true for every game. People were saying Xdefiant was COD killer, The Finals was the new best battle royale etc. But the honeymoon phase fades and it becomes just another game, withered and forgotten.

  • @TheTomKatt92
    @TheTomKatt92 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    So when it first released I tried the game, laggy, unoptimized and bad fps (20-30fps max for my pc). I figured I'd give it a couple weeks and see if they made it any better but my NEED to play the game won out and I decided to just order more ram and now the game feels so much better! It feels like OW1 when I was learning all the characters and because I'm a huge marvel fan it's so fun to play as some of my favourite characters in the game and feel like I am actually them! It definitely has a lot of room to grow as a game too, literally hundreds of new characters they COULD add, they could even do pve events maybe in the future, or just things that other games like OW failed on etc. Granted I've been playing for barely 5/6 days but I am having so much fun!

  • @khele2k
    @khele2k 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    So there's a ton of damage heroes, no doubt about it. BUT I think strategists are very strong with a ton of diverse options based on what you're trying to accomplish (or just have fun). They can use a little more Vanguard depth, especially Poke and Offensive Tanks. Really the only Poke is kind of Magneto and the only good Offensive Tank is Thor (Cap needs a buff, he's more DPS than Dive and bad at both).

    • @SubinSB6
      @SubinSB6 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. I tried all the strategists and each feels very situational.

  • @Agk3los
    @Agk3los 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    ???? I have a 2070 Super, Ryzen 7 3700X, and 32GB of DDR4 and I'm well over 110fps without everything turned down. No way a significantly more powerful system shouldn't be pushing 200+ frames with optimized settings. That's crazy.

    • @ty15533
      @ty15533 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Maybe the streaming is why it doesn’t run well

    • @CBF2006
      @CBF2006 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      5800X with 3070 and get as high as 150 on all low, 300+ in Overwatch

    • @a_bionicle6635
      @a_bionicle6635 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have no issues myself. Mind you I’m running the more current Ryzen 7 7000 series, but my GPU is by no means top of the line (middle of the road) and I’ve had zero issues. The one thing I have found is you should not run the game on netease’s launcher, it’s too RAM intensive unless you have 32 or more GB and even then it’s iffy. Running on steam it’s been very smooth for the most part.

  • @nightsxgames
    @nightsxgames 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I love both of the games - this gives me the ability to take a break from OW and still enjoy a similar game then I can come back to OW when there is more new to learn and enjoy. Rivals is amazing, but so is OW. Now I have both of them to enjoy. I never needed an Overwatch killer. I needed a new OW challenger. This is it.

  • @andrewhelmer6853
    @andrewhelmer6853 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Glad to see you're enjoying it Coach! Also that you're getting the recognition you deserve

  • @theSato
    @theSato 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    It's not 'better' than Overwatch, it's literally just a different game, with different pros and cons. It's fun, but it's not without its drawbacks fundamentally.
    When the honeymoon phase with M.Rivals wears off, tons of people will return to Overwatch, mark my words.
    I wish both games success.

    • @Balloonbot
      @Balloonbot 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, Im probably just old - but i've been through the mill of many new games, and although a fundamentally bad game is never fun even on day 1, people don't realise they're in a honeymoon phase of Rivals. Any game you start to take remotely seriously you'll become more critical of, and if you're not aiming to rank up then you'll get bored of the same quickplay loop too. Im sure many will stick to Rivals as their main game, but many similar issues around character balance and content will pop up soon.

    • @awhitney3063
      @awhitney3063 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I highly doubt it ~ personally I left ages ago, but then again you wouldn't catch me dead paying $20 human dollars for a digital skin. At least with Rivals they let you convert the currency you earn in their little daily missions to the gold lattice to buy skins, so you can technically get all of the skins using in game credits entirely for free. Y'know, like Overwatch used to do back when it wasn't hot garbage.

  • @sharpshooter4778
    @sharpshooter4778 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great vid, I was hiding from the rivals train until the whole ow TH-cam community fell in love. Now I'm on the boat too

  • @brodrickbaker
    @brodrickbaker 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    The fact that people keep asking you if it’s better over and over again shows how mentally broken people are these days. It’s a free game, play it and if you enjoy it keep playing it. Why does it have to be better or worse than another game?? Why do people need to get approval before they try something for themselves? The conversation around this game has just been suuuper weird to me

    • @brodrickbaker
      @brodrickbaker 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I made this comment before I got to the end. Well said

    • @ivisitthezoo
      @ivisitthezoo 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      bc ppl wanna jump on the trend and anything to give them another opportunity to hate train on.

  • @KyleB711
    @KyleB711 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hey bruv, your Super Resolution mode can be turned down to anything but quality to get a significant improvement. 4060 is the lowest spec GPU in the current generation so it is unfortunately not a "really great pc". This thing runs a pretty good 60fps on Steamdeck when set to Low so please use that as reference - not trying to throw shade.

  • @mckinleyostvig7135
    @mckinleyostvig7135 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Blizzard killed Overwatch when they added MOBA heroes to the game, didn't patch the game for 2 years straight, and then lied to the playerbase for years.

  • @GoodStoryGames
    @GoodStoryGames 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I've been loving this game since release. Sorry to hear about you optimization issues. Mines have been running amazing but I'm on an i9 12900k and a 3090. I can run it max with DLSS set to Performance and get a constant 60FPS @4k with no drops.

  • @ROBbYZ_Music
    @ROBbYZ_Music 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I do not understand why people can't run the game.
    I've got an ASUS TUF A15, with a laptop 4060, 16 ram and 1tbSSD, with an Intel 7H.
    I run the game with everything on ultra except 1 or 2 settings on high and I've got a constant 90-100 fps.
    This is my first time ever playing a Shooter so maybe to ME this is peak settings and performance idk

  • @Berry-Blade
    @Berry-Blade 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    blizzard killed overwatch

    • @ProofsUp
      @ProofsUp 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A lot of loud people say that. But simply put, its one of the most successful gaming companies today. And im sure they still make a ton of money on overwatch

  • @ThyranG
    @ThyranG 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    While Marvel Rivals is a Overwatch clone.
    They are completely separate games in what they do for gameplay, neither are better than each other and are entirely dependent on what gameplay you prefer.
    Both will live in coexistence and wont go anywhere unless one of them completely screws something up, which is unlikely but not sure quite yet for Rivals until January where S1 begins.
    Like chaotic fights where everything is unbalanced?
    -Marvel Rivals
    Like more balanced fights based on a more orderly setup?
    -Overwatch

    • @hardboiled2987
      @hardboiled2987 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Copium overdose. Enjoy playing venture the they/them while I play cool lazer boom guy

    • @theSato
      @theSato 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah you're correct ThyranG. As much as "blizzard bad" or "ooh shiny new thing good" people are really trying to drive this 'Rivals is way better than OW' narrative -- it isn't really true. They're just different games, with different pros AND cons.

  • @RespectTheGanja
    @RespectTheGanja 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thats 100% a massive reason maybe possibly the only reason why dps is so much more popular than the other roles i mean they have over double the characters...

  • @bojack2011
    @bojack2011 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I never played Overwatch, but I have been playing Rivals since launch. I'm hooked.

  • @starwars8108
    @starwars8108 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Hi bro, couldnt get the game as pc not stong enough but still really love ur vids, nice work

    • @coach_mills
      @coach_mills  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Yup one of my biggest criticisms of the game right here

    • @starwars8108
      @starwars8108 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@coach_mills fr, I was excited for like a month before it came out

    • @EraOfKingsMMORPG
      @EraOfKingsMMORPG 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@coach_mills honestly, overwatch is simply a lot older, it had a lot more time to work on the lag and bugs.
      unreal engine 5 is still very buggy, marvel rivals just gotta have some time.
      but even then, overwatch is built for the systems at that time. we cannot expect marvel rivals to be the same, due to how much things are happening at once.
      as a game dev, reducing lag was a really tough thing for me, since a lot of things could go wrong
      different drivers, different systems, apps playing in the background could trigger an anti cheat.
      pcs are just.. like that, some people got massive fps with very bad pcs, and some have crashes non stop with high end gaming pc like me.
      rivals just gotta take it slow, it isn't a universal fix, and it takes time and research.

  • @j453
    @j453 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Bryers Vanilla and Hagen Daz Vanilla exist at the same time.

    • @brodrickbaker
      @brodrickbaker 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      But which one is better??? I have to know and someone else has to tell me!!!!

  • @kalebphillips9281
    @kalebphillips9281 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Played Overwatch for years, stopped when OW2 came out and none of the promises were kept. And I never plan on playing it again. I wasn't expecting to care about Marvel Rivals, but after trying it, I and most of my gaming group are completely hooked. I didn't want another competitive multiplayer game, but when it's this fun and diverse, I can't help but want to play more.

    • @awhitney3063
      @awhitney3063 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same for me ~ I honestly don't know why anyone sticks with OW after all of the lies and crap Blizzard pulled. They clearly aren't interested in investing in the game itself, might as well get off the sinking ship and find a new, much more fun boat!

  • @durbinny
    @durbinny 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel this vid in my soul. I still play OW, but MR has been so amazing.... Mantis, Hela and Thor are my main 3 😊

  • @golcy2042
    @golcy2042 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For me it depends on what the studio does with it but it has far more potential for me. Marvel rivals has the best hero identity out of any game and it’s not close. Almost every character feels incredibly fun and unique to play almost like you’re playing an entirely different playstyle each time. Right now the main things holding it back for me are lack of map variety, some balancing issues, and not having play of the game… but these are all issues they can easily tackle. They have hundreds of already made characters to choose from in the comics and the sky is the limit really. We’ve seen what overwatch can do and some people are just done with it… Whether it truly becomes the “overwatch killer” depends what they do with this momentum they have.

  • @blackout3133
    @blackout3133 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had to mess with my settings a lot to get it running 90% smoothly but no matter what, Dr. Strange's portal makes me lose anywhere between 40-100+ frames.

  • @redgehenna4493
    @redgehenna4493 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:28 i had the same issues until i found out that the game does not use my GPU by default. you have to fix it manually in your system settings

  • @futuristicspark5691
    @futuristicspark5691 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    How did you optimize your game? My game is almost unplayable outside of practice range.

  • @coldstonestunners
    @coldstonestunners 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What kind of monitor do you have ? Does it have nvidea anti tear?

  • @gbartho
    @gbartho 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Regarding optimization, I had to move the installation from my hard drive to SSD because I was frequently stuck at 99% and the game would start but not the game assets and sprites.
    About OW, I loved it but blizzard lost me after the mess with OW 2. I felt so disrespected when they dropped OW 1 for an "improved" experience and they just decided to lock new characters behind paywalls and become greedy.

  • @EhdrianEh
    @EhdrianEh 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    There are plenty of tank and support Marvel heroes they can add later like Colossus, Night Nurse or Elixir
    PS: I am using a 7900XT w/ 5800X3D w/ 32GB and getting 70-100 fps on 2560x1080. I play in windowed mode in the middle of my 1440p ultra wide.
    Settings: Screen space reflections, shadows: low, everything else ultra.
    The main issue is that ping goes way up if you have a toaster playing on your team (80ms). Otherwise I'm pretty consistent at 17ms ping

  • @kinodikaleon8554
    @kinodikaleon8554 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Games hardly ever kill other games.
    Companies are the game killers

  • @awhitney3063
    @awhitney3063 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm honestly so glad Rivals came out, I quit Overwatch after being a pretty hardcore player when they botched OW2 so bad. I'm surprised to hear you're having optimization issues, I have a pretty old gaming PC with not much left in it these days and I still manage to play the game quite well, no issues unless my internet is being crummy from the weather. Then again I'm not streaming, so who knows. Overwatch used to be my go-to game, but after they sh!t the bed so hard and ruined all my favorite heroes, there's no reason to play it anymore. At least Marvel Rivals scratches that itch of being able to get better with a champion and carry the game because you're gelling with them and just unstoppable. I've had a few matches like that now and it feels great; I just hope they don't make the same mistakes that OW did and put role queue in to ruin the fun for the sake of a few selfish players that refuse to ever flex; it really did lethal damage to OW's player base for a few reasons. Lack of player agency, creativity and long wait times - why would anyone sign up for that?

  • @utopiaplaysgames4588
    @utopiaplaysgames4588 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really hope they introduce cross progression by season 1, because Apex really fked up waiting until season 19 to introduce it.

  • @AsmrAno
    @AsmrAno 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    1 view in 26 seconds bro fell off

    • @King_Usman92
      @King_Usman92 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      And u were the view

    • @AsmrAno
      @AsmrAno 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @ ima real one

  • @mrsoul6825
    @mrsoul6825 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Please do an advanced cap guide. I know he’s underrated right now but he’s too much fun to play. The games I have while playing him feel amazing but I would definitely like some tips to avoid bad situations. Also need a lot of counter tips for other hero’s other then just switch

  • @uphillwalrus5164
    @uphillwalrus5164 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Overwatch only works as a game if your team is highly skilled and coordinated. It's essentially unplayable outside of organized tournaments or stacking in comp.

  • @GameBooAdvancePlus
    @GameBooAdvancePlus 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    People are quick to make hyperbolic statements like "overwatch is cooked" and stuff like that during a game's honeymoon phase is crazy. Time will tell if people go back to overwatch but I will say this: playing marvel rivals did remove any lingering desire to play Overwatch instead in my head as I was playing it, unlike the many clones that came out in OW's wake.

  • @beepboop1959
    @beepboop1959 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I do prefer it more then overwatch but the only issue for me is the frame drops and the inconsistant FPS

  • @Ron742_
    @Ron742_ 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wish Rivals had a mode with some version of role lock or role limit, an FOV slider, and they did away with seasonal hero buffs.

    • @sir_gort
      @sir_gort 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      IMO, the seasonal hero buffs should be moved over to being extra bonuses for team ups because team ups are the main draw of Marvel Rivals.

    • @theSato
      @theSato 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sir_gort yeah team ups are rivals' main gimmick/novelty. I don't like them (frankly I find the idea of 'parts of your hero's kit is locked away unless one of your allies happens to pick the correct hero to unlock it' as pretty unhealthy game design) -- but it is one of the things that sets it apart from Overwatch as its own thing, something unique and "fun".

  • @christianbenson5875
    @christianbenson5875 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My only complaint about rivals is the strange portals tanking my fps for a couple seconds lol

  • @Snow-Order66
    @Snow-Order66 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You should really turn on frame generation if you want better performance. It doesn't add remarkable lag input like some people think and you'll get a massive boost in frames especially since you're most likely CPU bounded. I have a 5600g with RTX 4070 and can run the game with 140+ fps on high and 240+ on low at 1080p, no external config or software, just give it a try.

  • @EraOfKingsMMORPG
    @EraOfKingsMMORPG 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    about the supports and tanks argument.
    it is simply not a mistake.
    duelist simply can fit in a lot more comps, they mash very well with almost any character.
    supports and tanks are simply a lot harder to make too, to make them unique you need to do A LOT more than making a duelist.
    great video tho! i hope to watch a lot more, never miss an upload

    • @coach_mills
      @coach_mills  5 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      I think id sacrifice 2-3 duelists for 1 more support or tank

    • @EraOfKingsMMORPG
      @EraOfKingsMMORPG 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@coach_mills 100%, i agree. i think they went a bit too hard on the duelists tbh. but i completely understand why, a broken support just defines a meta. a support or tank being too can make half the cast not worth to play
      we seen that with the budget moana side character.
      and we seen that with brig, sigma and mercy
      duelist simply allow for so many different comps

  • @Shayner38
    @Shayner38 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think the only thing separating it from being able to kill overwatch is the third person view.

  • @Vertebrated
    @Vertebrated 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The fact that OW never gave you any credit is insane. Very excited to see what you got in store for us! Been here for a while man and we ain’t leaving ✌️

  • @RespectTheGanja
    @RespectTheGanja 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes go all in with Marvel Rivals! Its time.

  • @Bluebear_Edits
    @Bluebear_Edits 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Surprisingly, I get great fps on rivals with a 3060

  • @SLiPPeRY_aCTioN
    @SLiPPeRY_aCTioN 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It isn't better than Overwatch was back when, but it is better than Overwatch is right now. I still feel like Overwatch had better stage designs for the 2 game modes. The support roles are a lot more fun in Rivals though. As someone who played a lot of D'Va in OW, I still haven't found an ultimate ability that satisfies the way a multikill D'Va bomb did. All-in-all this game has me hooked and wanting to keep trying out new characters every time i play

  • @blkc744
    @blkc744 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bro what the fix for lags?

  • @Tharealljayy
    @Tharealljayy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    0:46 definitely its not a terrible game honestly its the little things just like anything and marvel has super heroes. Hopefully they can just fix it and both game coexist

  • @matejzganec6183
    @matejzganec6183 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yes! Thanks exactly it - the "weightiness" of abilities. In OW, the abilities, specially the ults, feel much better.
    In my opinion, this is the only thing OW still has going for it from a gameplay perspective. The rest - Marvel Rivals win hands down.

  • @dshredmusic
    @dshredmusic 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I really want to see what Overwatch looks like on the long run when another game pulls out all the normies that fuck around queueing up in ranked games they don't wanna be in.

  • @iancatura8388
    @iancatura8388 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Playing with friends is always fun whatever the game is, especially in shooter games. It's fun whether you win or lose in a quick match or competitive in MR. But playing solo is only fun in quick match coz you can use any hero or role you want. In comp, solo q is just horrible (at least for now that MR is just new). You always find yourself adjusting and swapping heroes/roles because you want the chance to win. Everyone wants to lock the dps role. If no one gives in, you're all playing 6 dps or 5 dps.

    • @brodrickbaker
      @brodrickbaker 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have played a handful of comp games and yeah, I lock tank every time, never a second tank, thankfully at least one healer but always at least 3 sometimes 4 DPS.

  • @itsaphro
    @itsaphro 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like AMD must be more optimized for the game cause I’ve had no issues with frame spikes etc, been a smooth 100fps with a 5700xt

  • @m0zu
    @m0zu 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like playing dps more in rivals, but I think playing tanks and support is better in ow.

  • @Allsmort
    @Allsmort 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Rivals is fun because how unbalance it is, I think is better than OW if you just want to have fun getting roll over because your team is 5 dps and 1 healer is not fun if you want to win games. The problem with you content creators is that must of us are casual gamers must of the times we solo Q. But yes game is super fun still needs a lot of grind, that battle pass is bullshit because you need to grind to much and is limited to the coins you can grab per day or week. Tanks are limited and healers sometimes are not fun to play.

    • @Jefffryjames
      @Jefffryjames 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      That’s deadass how OW used to work when it was the most popular it’s ever been… Role Que wasn’t a thing the first few years it was all open Que so you had to play more then 1 roll if you wanted to climb typically

    • @Allsmort
      @Allsmort 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Jefffryjames keeping the role Q open is the best way to go for me, the problem is not the game is the community. the game is super fun. If you want to climb you will have to expect people to collaborate as well, at least loosing in ranked is more forgiven than OW.

    • @sporksabre
      @sporksabre 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Huh... I must be getting super lucky cause solo or with one friend we constantly have 1-2-3 or 2-2-2 roles when we play. And the few times we didn't, it was fun to just meme with 'oops all tanks' with the one random constantly screaming for someone to switch to a healer while never wanting to do it themselves. But By far, my experience has been groups of Randoms wanting to playing to win.

  • @Chaseman-pq4mq
    @Chaseman-pq4mq 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn’t really pay attention to the game until I saw some magik gameplay and immediately wanted to download it. I one tricked her for like my first 10 hours.

  • @jaynoneyodamnbuisness1499
    @jaynoneyodamnbuisness1499 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On SSD you have to copy twice. SSD drives make a weird tree

  • @thomasschuldt9001
    @thomasschuldt9001 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i miss role queue, i want some hero nerfs/buffs to damage and some more maps which will prob come in time. also cheaper costumes and id wish you could get a costume with profiency. other than that its a great game.

  • @jakzimny6752
    @jakzimny6752 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The optimization is weird in this game for sure. My laptop with 3070ti runs the game fine. On high settings certain things such as Dr Strange portals kill the fps tho. With that being said being neither a fanboy of OW or Marvel, I like this game more. But most of all it's impressive that a f2p big name game dropped and it's actually f2p and good... Huge props to the whole team, I think the lack of initial excitement when it was revealed was probably because everyone expected it to suck and have awful monetization just like most big name games do now.

  • @Nyxtia
    @Nyxtia 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Been having fun in Rivals but making any claim about it being better than OW is ridiculous when you're comparing an 8 year old game to an 8 day old game. Make this comparison in 2032 and we'll see if everyone is still super positive about MR.

  • @budhisstuff7585
    @budhisstuff7585 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think marvel rival Balance IT Champion roaster pretty well
    Just Split the DPS section in your mind into meele focused and ranged focused. Then ITS pretty even in my opinion.

  • @utopiaplaysgames4588
    @utopiaplaysgames4588 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel like all the characters are going to get some sort of nerf, but they shouldn't

  • @cantu7214
    @cantu7214 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    5v5 ruined OW for me. I’m still willing to try 6v6 tomorrow but I think it’ll be the last chance they have to draw me back or else I’m gonna delete it.

  • @infinitybro2277
    @infinitybro2277 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Tbh on ps5 I have no optimization issues game runs creamy for me, got a bravia and in runs 120 fps if anything shit is SMOOTH

  • @thekingofcookies4877
    @thekingofcookies4877 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's just the PC Port that's bad, consoles don't have any issues with optimisation, PC Master Race am I right?

  • @Jefffryjames
    @Jefffryjames 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Marvel’s is 100% more fun with better gameplay and maps imo but the optimization is ass rn. I went back and played a few OW2 games since Rivals release and the player base has definitely been cleaned out it was like playing a bot game

  • @ulrich101
    @ulrich101 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Bro you still didn’t give an answer. Unless the title of your video is the answer. In which case, this guy 100% says rivals is better than overwatch.

  • @Tharealljayy
    @Tharealljayy 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:14 "Again and Again" 😏😏

  • @RespectTheGanja
    @RespectTheGanja 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    After the next windows update or graphics card update try and see if the issues are gone because thats a joke

  • @domjay
    @domjay 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I had no clue I’d have this much fun and I dislike games of this genre.

  • @Skycube100
    @Skycube100 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For me personally, I prefer Overwatch just coz it's an FPS and it has better optimization than you can run it on a potato pc. I love Rivals too as a matter of fact I've been playing only Rivals for the entire month rn rather than OW.
    But for me, Rivals is more of my chill game, for me of course, coz I don't need to break my wrist constantly as I would in OW or in any FPS heavy-on mobility game (I main Tracer/Doom/Ana/Ashe). Also, Rivals is so badly optimized, you're going to seppuku the fk outta your low-end PC tryna run Rivals.
    I love both OW and Rivals' art directions that's why I like them both and also, I would rather keep playing them both than just stick to one side instead.

    • @Skycube100
      @Skycube100 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Eventually, some will get bored playing the single game over and over again and I don't like that.
      This is why even though I lean more towards Overwatch just coz it's FPS; I still prefer enjoying them both. I love their art styles, I love their music, I love their roster, and I love hero shooters

  • @ahmed_naeim
    @ahmed_naeim 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yea the amd chip is def the reason like im playing on laptop with i7 12th gen n rtx 3070 n i get around 110 fps on ultra settings n low shadow

  • @FamousAaron99
    @FamousAaron99 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's a great game, but it's no overwatch killer... yet. yea, it's a fresh take on the hero shooter genre. We just needed new scenery for a change.

  • @igyysdaddy191
    @igyysdaddy191 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what can i say, i f***ing hate 1shots in ow, widow and hanzo, so disgusting. yet many maps have these kind of long range terrain...like specificlly designed for those two. mr has very fun terrain designs, lots of high grounds, most of the maps dont have very long shot. instead in ow, widow in italy map, shes like 2 pixels big but can kill u in 1 shot. how is it fun for normal qp players?
    most importantly for me, culturally not every hero is equalized. kiriko was released after sj and got 5 times more skin, why? why japanese heroes always got the best things first? more skins, mythic skins(all 3 of them already got it, yet there are 40+ heroes, whats the odds?) it's like an obsession of hmm someone in charge.
    the toxicity problem
    hacking problem
    all took them years to begin to solve, not solved yet.

  • @magnaeon
    @magnaeon 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really you have to give it to OW with the original heros too. Where rivals has it easy with an existing IP with an overflowing roster to start. They are why they are ...🤷‍♂️ Both are 'good' but opposite ends. FPS vs TPS also...

  • @superhero6502
    @superhero6502 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    extremely unpopular opinion: i personally have not enjoyed the game as much as everyone else and it hasn’t hooked me in like ow did. i find the game fun but too messy, unbalanced, and i’m not a big fan of the map designs because there’s so much clutter (both thanks to the map size and designs and the character abilities). there’s always way too much happening on the screen visually and sound design wise and no role lock is kind of an issue when you have teammates that instalock dps forcing you to solo heal or solo tank. the maps are also very wide sometimes with so much open space and everyone is usually on a different part of the map making it hard to heal or coordinate abilities and ults (but that’s probably because a lot of the players don’t really understand how hero shooters work and just want to play spider-man and wolverine for the hero fantasy of it all). both games have pretty problematic QOL aspects and characters but one is more highlighted and scrutinized because it’s been out for almost a decade while the other hasn’t been out for 2 weeks. overall a fun but pretty overrated game, i appreciate overwatch’s more polished and coordinated gameplay, but im glad everyone else is having a lot of fun with it.

  • @BurGurr
    @BurGurr 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's it just me or voice chat don't work

    • @stevento6920
      @stevento6920 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is turned off in the options by default, have you enabled it?

  • @oozy1333
    @oozy1333 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Were still in the honeymoon phase brother chill out.

  • @koopakape
    @koopakape 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Really dunno what you're saying about tanks n healers. Like I totally agree, but *every. single. game.* that uses this 'holy trinity' system has more than double the DPS characters/classes as tanks/healers combined. I mean look at FFXIV, even after all these years it has 4 tanks, 4 healers and like 15 dps and growing. WoW has what, 6 tank specs, 7 heal specs, and 20+ dps specs? I think it's the combination of the fact that you usually have muleiple DPS for every 1 each of the other classes in a party, plus the fact people just 'have the most fun' as dps, but ... in this game the most popular meta seems to be an equal number of each so far, or more healers rather than more dps, so idk man. Regarldess, I think this game ahs LESS of that problem than MOST games using this kind of system.

  • @tannerstueck8439
    @tannerstueck8439 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Optimization is need but you are running a 4060 ti on unreal engine 5 also you don't have Fullscreen on which makes your performance worse.

  • @DontFeedTheTrolls
    @DontFeedTheTrolls 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    playing on a pc with 4070ti, core i9-13900KF, 64gb ram, high settings, no FG, stable at 120... might be that cpu if you're having issues. i don't trust AMD personally

  • @lilywong9672
    @lilywong9672 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could be worse. Star Wars Hunters has a whopping three support characters lmao.

  • @imclueless9875
    @imclueless9875 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i genuinely HOPE rivals kills overwatch, time to put overwatch out to pasture. Overwatch barely peaking 10k rivals easily pushing 150k+

  • @shram86
    @shram86 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Lmao 8.7
    You see the 0.7 is so important to my youtube fans

  • @jrollio
    @jrollio 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    OW2 did this to themselves. I get they wanted to market to a different demographic.. but to totally ignore the previous demographic, that helped make OW a fantastic franchise, is totally unacceptable. And then to comment and tell us we're crazy and living in a nostalgic world totally showed they are not in tune.
    This whole industry is whacked now...
    I cringe at all those hardcore ow2 shill content creators that are now releasing like 90% MR videos. lolll.

  • @jonathanwilliams9359
    @jonathanwilliams9359 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Buy a PlayStation FFS. You want to be a pro, get the equipment the game was meant for.

  • @Trolosi123
    @Trolosi123 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like the game, but not all the paid shills

  • @H_NULL
    @H_NULL 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Peak Overwatch was trash compared to Marvel Rivals at launch.
    Better graphics, better gameplay, better developers, better hero combinations, better queue times, better competitive ladder, better server stability. And all of that at launch. Blizzard sucks. Overwatch is dead to me. 💀
    Overwatch isn’t optimized it’s just trash graphics that are the same as OW1 which is 2016 technology that’s why it plays well on mid range GPUs.

  • @RicoKujo-nj5un
    @RicoKujo-nj5un 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The 2 game are enough différent to have space for both i know Marvel rival he really inspire from counterwatch but i dont feel it s the same thing like maybe apex or fornite , he will have maybe discussion who is better for maybe 3 month and then each game will keep make is on way.But i think overwatch should add more fun hero because mauga venture hazard that bs maybe some of u like that and good for u but they should had more hero like genji tracer doom

  • @erich4779
    @erich4779 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You just need a better pc. 4060ti is atrocious. 5800x3d in this game works wonders. Obviously new game launches are bound to have optimization issues.

  • @kingamanj
    @kingamanj 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Answer is no, Blizzard will Kill OW

  • @LewReviews
    @LewReviews 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Did you play any tanks or heals 😂 because recently all I see are people playing DPS 😅 but the healers especially are unbelievably fun it makes no sense. 90 percent of my games someone will instantly lock spider man. It's kinda troll at this point

  • @JGburneraccount
    @JGburneraccount 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank god i didnt get a AMD

  • @LoneRatatouille
    @LoneRatatouille 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Unreal 5 is unpotimized in general

  • @hardboiled2987
    @hardboiled2987 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    4:40 borderless window? Go fullscreen lmao