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Hi France here ! TY so much this new great itw Andrew ! As for your question : One of my best friend was born in a Muslim family but got away from religion & he got married to his bf (which ended up not being a real issue for his family). Yet, we just discussed the issue once since oct 7 and it couldn’t go very far since his concern was only towards Israel & Jews. I believe there’s a tacit agreement in the Muslim culture/population on Jews being the ennemies, whatever the situation is. It makes me very sad and I am perplexed on how we shall try to remove this irrational hate & all the violence going with it. I wish I could state #IAmJew, tho I’m not, just to demonstrate my empathy & solidarity, but it’s way to dangerous, unfortunately.
Hey Andrew, where on earth did you get this idea that Jews are psyched when a gentile stoops to play a Jew in film? This pisses off a lot of Jews. Are you not familiar with the term “Jewface”?
I am a Jew and find it very heartwarming and touching an important when Jews stand up for us because our expectation is nobody will. We are a tiny minority and very alone. When feels like the whole world is against us, since October 7 we have learned that it’s true. People pretend we are just paranoid when in fact that’s just gaslighting. Thanks for standing up for us.
That’s the goal of the marches. They are trying to appear that they are the majority, but believe me there’s a silent majority here in the US that support you. We just don’t live in a big city and have jobs so we can’t march daily. I’m in Tulsa Ok btw
As a western citizen of the world here is a belief of mine, absent the Jews, we would have already realized that this is not a Jewish problem but just one front in very long war on our values. Alas, westerners do have a very confusing relationship with Jews that render us myopic. and @cheeefkeef8749 silent majority has no place in a democracy, freedoms are earned by the brave not by the silent.
Andrew, almost nobody understands the complex history of that region, including me. But the willingness to find an opportunity to turn on all Jews in Western countries has astounded me. I was so no naive. I keep saying to people ‘so we hate Jews now, really?’ We’re all being played, but I’m not sure how it was done.
@@zeldagoblin Yes, if you wanted assimilation, you have to educate educate educate in British values, British customs! The parents generation is a loss. But, given enough solid education in British values, the kids’ kids will be much more assimilated. But that has not really been done, has it??
I am a Scottish Catholic and I fully stand with Israel and the Jewish people. I'm truly appalled and alarmed at the support for Hamas from some of my fellow countrymen. They must surely know that Hamas ARE a terrorist organization and what happened on October 7th was a horrific crime against humanity. In fact a genocidal attack against the 50:52 Jews.. The fact that the terrorists filmed these disgusting attacks on their body cams and boasted about it says a lot about their "humanity" and the sight of the people of Gaza cheering when shown the film footage filled me with despair. It was truly despicable and it's something I'll never forget. Brilliant conversation ,gents and i wholeheartedly agree with you. ❤👍
@@jonfoxtrot5135we gave former colinal countries independence so that they could self-govern, not to come back to the nation that supposedly abused them so much.
My daughter in law has a master's degree and works in London. When we last met it became apparent that she was only vaguely aware of the 7th October massacre and didn't have any particular opinion on the pro Hamas in London marches. It is most concerning that the younger generation are so ill informed.
I think some blame has to be attached to the education sector in this country. They are trying to whitewash history. Which means we will never learn from the mistakes we've made in the past
Even if there are some pro Hamas people in a march to support Palestinians doesn’t mean it’s a pro Hamas march. They are pro Palestinians. People support the Palestinians because they have empathy with their plight. Most of the young people I have talked to know quite a lot about the history of the region and that is precisely why they have sympathy for them.
@travelingwestmusic5259 Israel bombed the churches and sniped Christians in Gaza. Israel deliberately murdered Christian Palestinians and replaces them from their homes and community.
Their education is also messed up, and quite a way from a proper citizenship education. They are taught to be robotic activists. You would think they were in the Hitler youth with the way they react, and that is why so many join the Palestine marches, and why so many suffer anxiety when faced with real work, because they are no longer taught to be grown-ups in education. Ignorant or malicious, it no longer matters, they are ultimately supporting evil, and think they are being good. The same as Germans in 1942
At 46 minutes the distinction between Islam and other religions is that when you criticize Islam, it’s punishable by death. Not so with the other religions. Kind of a big difference.
The University of Toronto granted amnesty to all Pro-Hamas protesters at the 2 month encampment held at the school. To all students, all professors, all unions. I quit 2 days ago. After almost 12 years of working there, this was the final straw. They are ACTIVELY protecting terrorist sympathizers under the aegis of the right to protest.
@@flamingburrittoCorrect. But the truckers were not: Demanding the country of Canada be destroyed Threatening one specific group with annihilation For 2 months the terrorist sympathizers on the campus committed the following: Threatened Jewish students Called for intifada Had posters of known terrorist groups Had late night rallies demanding the destruction of Israel and its Jewish/Zionist inhabitants All of this was captured by ONE news group and they were ignored because they are conservative. Campus police were designated as protection for these groups When one Jewish student decided to hold his own protest he was immediately removed and told he was trespassing.
The left also allied itself with the mullahs in Iran at the onset of the Iranian revolution, but were quickly sidelined, jailed, executed, etc., after the mullahs gained power.
I grew up in the north, and never met a jew until I got sent to private school, where all the successful Jewish families sent their kids. They were all just normal kids, albeit bright and disciplined for the most part. It was many years later I found out my genetic father (I was adopted) was Jewish, so I share the bloodline. My best man at my wedding was a Jewish girl! Obviously I stand with my Jewish friends, but I was absolutely appalled by the explosion of antisemitism in non-muslims. The denial of Hamas atrocities is just next-level cope. I swear 90% of the pro-palestine mob know next to nothing about the issues and are just jumping on the latest holier-than-thou bandwagon for social clout, but real people are suffereing because of it. It's sick, and it's selfish.
I am not Jewish. A few days after the conflict had started I went to buy bread in my local Jewish bakers. I asked staff about relatives they had in Israel. I was amazed to find what genuine concern they had not only for the Jews but ALL of the people who were in fear of their lives in Gaza. If this was happening to my homeland and my people I would not give a single thought to those on the other side I'm somewhat ashamed to say. I left the shop feeling truly humbled.
Islam itself prohibits the criticism of it. It says it is the "direct speech from god and that is why it is whole, perfect and the truth" and critizinig it then is blasphemy.
? Islam is an ideology. They tell us they want world domination but we ignore it. Why? They dislike Jews, Christians, dogs and everyone and everything refusing to bow down to their confused dictates.
The good people of Europe will need to realise that faith and hope will not stop the spread of the cancer which is Islam, through our societies. A more visible, vocal and direct approach is needed before it's too late.
🇬🇧 It’s such a “British Culture” thing to make jokes about each other! “An Englishman, Irishman & Scotsman walk into a pub…”. Another vital part of British culture is being able to laugh at ourselves!
bit different I think. Four white blokes from the British Isles walk into a pub. This is a teddy bears' picnic compared to an israeli and a member of hamas walk into a bar.
Indeed. UNRWA is a terrorist organization by any standards. The UN is nowadays the abode of tyrants and despots... just think about Iran in the "Human Rights" department :-))))))
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. The role of UNRWA???? You mean their role to fed, cloth and educate masses of displaced people? Oh, you're probably referring to Israels claim of UNRWA complicity in Oct 7th??? A claim for which not a single piece if evidence has been offered up by Israel. Even the UK resumed funding of UNRWA yesterday due to lack of evidence.😂😂😂
The Jews in London blend in so well with British society, so fluid. The Jews are part of our community, not other than us, part of us. My GP’s were Jewish, part of our community, practically family and friends. They were some of the kindest people I knew. They escaped the Holocaust as children, one from Austria, one from Hungary and they got married. They dedicated their life to to their patients from all faiths and backgrounds. They dedicated themselves to our local surgery and community. Some doctors are memorable. What I remember is their kindness, understanding and devotion. Olgar and Henry were rescued from under the noses of Nazis. They paid the UK back many times over.
@@lilasfaves7846but can you blame them? The second world war isn't a distant memory. I also think the Jews don't attempt to foist their own beliefs, wants, needs and preferences on the rest of society. It isn't a crime to live quietly and keep yourself to your self.
@@lilasfaves7846 I explained my own experience. My local GP’s were engaged with and sought to better the lives of the local people. Their patients.. they engaged with us, helped us, knew us. They really did their best. They were not separate from us, there was no “us and them”. And they were trusted.
@@Sailfire1 that’s wonderful you had that experience as you say. My point was communities are often separate as their culture is so very different (wigs for women, different food, ceremonies and dress) there are many different forms of Judaism I guess
Thanks for remembering us, Mark! We Iranians wish the world would realize that if they help us get rid of the Islamic Republic tyrant government, Middle East and the rest of the world would be have a much greater chance at peace and prosperity. #woman-life-freedom #WomanLifeFreedom
Well said. The world forgets that the people are not the governments. Too many people in the middle East and around the world are living in fear and have nothing to do with what their 'rulers ' do. I wish we could do something with the realisation that there are more of us than there is of them. Peace to you ❤
I pray the UK is waking up to the threat Islam is to our countries. At the moment we are in the major but mass uncontrolled immigration is highlighting the majori issues we are going to have if we don't address this. I wish the Iranian people were free as well. You should educate these blind people following this ideology they are clueless. I don't understand why moderate Muslims aren't saying no to Islamism
The trifecta indoctrination of post Colonial studies, identity politics and Intersectionality have had a devastating and insidious impact on Western democratic values.
@musayibghani3986 it is hamas who misused and corrupt the fund isreal give to built up gaza. Instead building a Singapore they built ter ror tunnels. Isreal fund hamas thought hamas is responsible government, but it turned out wrong. Hamas has the choice to be a respectable/reliable/responsible gov, but they chose ji had, they chose ter ror... why doublestandard? Why blame isreal? Money is neutral, it is hamas who have wicked intentions. Will you blame yourself for funding your own gov by giving tax, thinking gov will use it well but instead for politicians own benefit? Or will you blame those who misused it? Will u blame your own country for funding un/who/icj/unraw who don't work well? Or will u blame those in position inside un/who/icj/unraw who corrupt the money used the money for their own personal/ their party interest?
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla Hamas was a know terrorist organisation when Israel funded them in the first place. They did it so the PLO and Hamas were fighting each other and Hamas won. Israel didn't give them money to help the economy of gaza. They also wanted a more extreme group so the 2 state solution couldn't happen and that there would always be conflict. Look at the West Bank, no Hamas there only the Palestinian Authority who pledged non violence and yet 300 people there are killed by Israel every year with more than 1 million illegal settlements and forcefully displacing people from their homes. Don't tell me Israel is peace loving if they are going into the West Bank and commiting their crimes. Israel want to take the whole land and turn it into greater Israel.
@@musayibghani3986 (I'm trying to reply, but TH-cam a lot of the time deletes my comment...) Not "funding" but rather that Netanyahu allowed Qatar to deliver cash to Hamas, which is basically the governing body of Gaza (and is supposed to manage the civil servants). Was it a mistake? Yes. I'm glad Israel is finally going after Hamas
Not mentioning Hamas is quite an oversight. Thank you Andrew for giving your wonderful guest an opportunity to explain about his protest in favor of Israel and Jews.
I'm a carer in a nursing home I had the privilege of looking after a beautiful Jewish lady who haf terminal cancer during the lockdown. She had 2 lovely daughters who where still able to visit her as long as they had a test for covid. They were a beautiful family and when their mother did pass away the family gave every member of staff a voucher for M&S. Such generous people ❤
Andrew gold thank you for this important interview with this amazing 🧍♂️ Mark Birbeck 🦅 , Israel 🇮🇱 thank you,we need more people like you,smarter and brave than most “Woking”people today and understand this important issue ❗️🏴🇮🇱❗️
That is a fact when you see how many of these Islamists have been found to have copies of Mein Kampf. Also if you look at how many Arab Muslim countries collaborated with the Nazis during WW2 as well. Which is extremely ironic when you think most of these pro Hamas marches have ANTFA as allies and have the front to call Israel Nazis, smh.
Why arent Hamas held to the same standards as Israel. I support Israel and im fed up with these issues being played out on our streets. Why dont these vocal protestors go back to palastine with their rosey coloured glasses on and help rebuild palastine. No thought not im disgusted by the reaction to this program . Your not alone Israel
The real islam is how Mohammed lived. All Muslims are told by scripture to live as mohammed did. He was a warlord executioner Robber Rapist Slave trader and peado . That is the real islam.
@@robyngrieve5495 so...Islam then. A western concept to separate the "good" muslims from the bad ones. I remember asking a Pakistani Muslim what islamism and Islamists were and he had no idea.
@@stephendoherty981 not necessarily "everything he says"... but most of the things he says are profound and insightful. He is a brilliant man, whether you like him or not. On this one - he is absolutely accurate. The things antisemitism makes people do... it is a deep satanic ancient hate, that still exists, mainly other Abrahamic faiths mostly, especially in isl am unfortunately.
These days 'pro palestine' is a synonym of antisemitism. One can't openly be the latter as one is then labelled an antisemite, however being openly pro palestinian is almost praised despite being essentially the same.
@@triumphstagdriverI think it’s a mix of some people being antisemites and others being ignorant, not realizing they’re actually supporting antisemites and antisemitic rhetoric.
@@chenrhrh And yet here you are displaying all your ignorance by deliberately conflating 'anti-Zionism' with 'antisemitism' or conflating being 'anti-genocide' with 'antisemitism'!!!!! It's a shameful and cheap comparison designed to deflect away Israels war crimes.
The distinction is made because there are plenty of moderate Muslims in the West who don't actually believe in the hugely problematic aspects of the religion. People who make the distinction fall into three categories. One is those whose only knowledge of Islam comes from those moderate Muslims (or from the few Muslim apologists who still portray the religion as the moderate version). One is people who are worried that criticising Islam will be understood as attacking the moderate versions as well as the traditional ones. The third would be those who are worried that criticising Islam will move those moderates to embrace the full package of Islamic beliefs.
I thought the same thing when he said it so added a comment then read yours. Islam is the root of Islamism so is very much the problem. You can't get away from it and it's disingenuous to gloss over that in an attempt to appease people that don't want to hear the truth. Cultural Muslims is a better way of separating moderate Muslims from Islam. The ideology is in essence very problematic but many Muslims are not even aware of tis. They don't understand their own religion and probably not that interested in looking into it. To ignore it though is complicity.
If the police can not guarantee anyone’s safety (including their own) because of those at the pro Palestinian march, then said march needs to be prohibited
I stand with Jews, Israel whatever. I lived with a Jewish family for three years and I loved them, still do. My father is pro Palestine and we have agreed to disagree. Numbers are a huge issue now? But many brits are starting to wake up.
Yes me too my family live in England ( I dont) and they say Im on the 'wrong" side...I dont discuss it anymore...they are brainwashed with the BBC...( Screw the BBC).
Ditto..my family live in England watching their BBC propaganda daily..I dont live there and having asserted our difference of opinion..We have to not talk about it. But yes I hope that one day soon the truth will out ..about the fake images ( from Syria) the lies about the numbers of casualties made up by hammas, the propaganda about Zionists and settlers, the BS repeated 'g' word, I hope one day very soon they will all eat their bloody words and bend their heads in shame. When the legal procedures on the campuses begins, When the ACTUAL numbers of casualties is cut in half, When believing in a cult that took millions from unwra and un to make tunnels and falsely declare their people as refugees..One could go on...this tide has GOT to turn
Being Pro-Palestine doesn't not necessarily mean a person is pro-Hamas though. I'm a Zionist but I still think it's important to criticize the Israeli government and stand in solidarity of peaceful Palestinians. Ever since October 7th and the aftermath happened, I've noticed that there are other ideological parties that are hijacking the Gazan solidarity movement under the guise of humanitarian grounds who actually have their own agendas in mind - such as some Marxists Leninists and Islamists. Meanwhile on the Pro-Israel side, there are possibly white nationalist extremists and actual fascists groups disguised as Zionists. My point is, the conflict is so messed up and complex, things can get so confusing and polarized that a lot of people tend to miss the bigger picture.
@@Pr0fane26Exactly. People don’t get that Zionism is inherently two state solution friendly since 1947! If there will be any significant pro Palestinian movement who loudly and proudly endorses two state solution I’d be pro Palestinian people myself! 90% of those who define themselves pro Palestinian are people who put an X on Israeli map and say it’s ALL Palestine. And use buzzwords like “humanity” . Pfffft 🤦🏻♂️
I think it's insane to state a country should not exist. Who are they that say these things? They who say these things should look at their own evil hearts and cry.
The idea that Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza is one these clownworld moments which baffle me. It's basically the opposite of what is true. Hamas would like to commit a genocide on Jews and they gladly tell you so (from the River to the sea) but aren't strong/armed enough to do so.
It looks like gen 0 c1de to me due to statements made by various Israeli officials and the fact that a significant proportion of the Palestinian population have been killed. Also it is actually not true to say Hamas are committed to gen 0 c1de. Their charter decrys anti semetism and makes it clear their issue is with the Israeli state not all Jews.
Islam is the threat. Some moderately nicely spoken Muslims are classified as islam and the violently active are classified as islamists. Andrew got it right! Thank you Mark for all you are doing we are really grateful.
Those moderates need to take a stance against the Islamists otherwise they will be tarred with the same brush. When I see pushback then I’ll believe it. Up until now there’s been crickets.
@@megansummersides4255 if the moderates are too afraid to even speak up, what does it say about the religion? Political correctness on this issue will only make things worse. Easy question, in which muslim majority country can anyone raise an Israeli flag without getting arrested
Thank you, Mark, for doing what you do. It’s a necessary counterbalance that shows support, though not everyone would have thought of it nor have the will to see it through
Islam and Islamism ARE THE SAME THING. It has always been both a political and religious belief system. To turn a blind eye to that will hand them victory. Stop comparing it to other religious systems. It is fundamentally different from ALL of them.
Same thing as Judaism though. It’s both a political and religious belief. Christian empires ruled the world for 100s of years until 200 years ago when people separated church and state. All religions have their own laws.
@@icarusjumped2719 it’s not whataboutism though. You said it’s fundamentally different from all of the religions. I just pointed out that’s it’s not, but actually exactly alike. The only differences between the religions are the theology and the laws. But they’re all pretty much the same thing.
@daudmaybach7449 but its not. It is vastly different in almost every respect. Its a death cult. Most religions celebrate life. Islam celebrates death. That is the core difference. Before you even start on the political differences, you are already starting from a VASTLY different position than 90% of othe religions
Minor correction: Shavuot is not a "festival of cheesecake". It is another harvest festival, and the celebration of the giving of the Torah. An Israeli dairy company, Tnuva, popularized the custom of eating dairy foods, especially cheesecake, pastida and cheese burekas.
True, but it’s still funny the way he says it. As for Andrew, he can certainly laugh as much as he wants about his rabbi - but not during the service. It’s just plain rude. There’s a correct time for everything.
Thank you for saying this Deborah! Kinda makes me sad that Andrew doesn't know about Shavuot :( It's such a wonderful holiday! This past Shavuot ended up being very special and I have a feeling this year's High Holy Days will be very consequential. I know this sentiment is way early, but may you be sealed in the Book of Life
Not exactly 😂. Jews have been avoiding eating meat on Shavuot long before Tnuva existed. The idea behind it is that we didn't have time to learn the laws of kashrut so meat was avoided when the Torah was first received and we avoid meat in solidarity.
Please have Dr Bill Warner on the show and make this guy watch 🙄. Give this guy some of his books to read. Sick to death of people pandering to Islamists without knowing the first thing about the religion because they have a friend who ‘told them it’s a religion of peace.’ 🙄
No mention of Hamas; now I am hearing a lot of talk questioning if Oct. 7 was really that bad, saying that aspects that have been reported did not actually happen, and focusing on what Israel did wrong on Oct. 7. Very weird and unbalanced.
i warned people that the Ummha and the Socialist antisemites would try to make the world forget October 7th from day one, its their tactics for 20 years now... what hurts their "narrative" did not happen. they want the world to think the Jews are responsible for everything bad in the world cos Socialists and Muslims are too afraid to take responsibility for their own actions.
We are at a dangerous place when society laps up totally inaccurate information and fail to understand basic facts. This boils down in failing to teach basic facts of history in school.
You're very right about the silent majority. In France, polls consistently show popular support for Israel and fear that similar massacres may happen in France, while the elite slanders Israel. The IDF is the most moral army in the world and actually have the lowest combattant to civilian ratio ever seen in an urban context, even though Hamas uses civilians as human shields, and fights in civilian clothing. The emaciated kid's mother is obese, not consistent with famine, and even the UN has recognised that there was no famine. "Palestinians" are simply Arabs from surrounding countries who have no real roots in Israel. When people used "Palestinians" before 1948, they meant Jews in the British Mandate of Palestine, whose flag carried a red Star of David!!! I have an old dictionary proving this. There never was a country/nation called "Palestine"! That's a historic fact. "Palestine" was invented by Yasser Arafat with help from the Soviet Union in the 70s.
@@juliechurley2716 I'll find my place in the middle. I check a lot of the boxes for people the right abhors -- pro-choice, non-Christian, childfree, gay... yeah, I'm not welcome on that side. :)
There are people claiming they're the descendants of moors with right to return who already picked rich Spanish houses they want to move in. And there's hamastinians claiming they own the Big Ben.
Jews of Sephardic descent have been allowed Spanish citizenship though. Because they were expelled from Spain. So why don't Muslims get the same? Because Muslims were invaders? Well, actually some of them were Spanish locals who converted to Islam. Some of them were born there generations after the Muslim conquest. So, no.
We aren't allowed to question or criticize Islam (just ask Ayaan Hirsi Ali), which should tell you all you need to know with respect to who's really in charge of Western Civilization.
Trans Women in Women's Sport is a big issue at the moment. To be fair - there is a Woke team in our local football league called LGBT+ United. We played an Away game at their ground which was right next to the Conversion Clinic. Unfortunately some of our shots went over and landed in their back garden so after the Match a couple of the Trans Women went around and knocked the Clinic's door and asked: "Can we have our balls back, please?". (Sorry! you asked for jokes - just breaking the ice)
Allahu Akbar means "God is Greatest." It's based in religious supersessionism - Islam dominating Christianity and Judaism. It's the equivalence of "My sky dad can beat up your sky dad."
From one MARK to another! MARK, if you consider Political Islam, or 'Islamism' to be different from simple ISLAM, you need to undertake more study. You might start with asking where 'authority' lies within Islam; such that we are able to judge, by Islamic standards, whether an action (eg Jew-murder) is 'Islamic' or 'haram' (forbidden). Before you answer that question, read Koran, 'The House of Imran' (Ch 3) verses 5 and following. These verses tell you the Koran must be accepted exactly as written, devoid of hermeneutical considerations such as 'context', date when writeen, or the circumstances. The Koran MUST be taken at face value! There are no verses like these in the entirety of the Hebrew, or Koine Greek, parts of our Bible. Sure, 2 Tim 3 describes scripture as "God breathed"; but leaves the reader to decide what that entails. It is not merely HAMAS which is the problem (much as politicians might like to persuade us!): but it is ISLAM which is the problem. This is why our indigenous forebears had the wisdom to keep it well away from the West!
It is encouraging that Muslim channels are proliferating on TH-cam that question the dogma of Islam. I think I can safely mention the Apostate Prophet, but there are more and more apostates and muslims showing themselves with honesty, rather than the finger waving beardies. There is obviously some kind of war going on in Islam itself at the moment, and those in contact are getting caught up in the crossfire.
i have heard alot of racism from some British Jews towards British Arabs and Pakistanis, and even towards Palestinian christians is pretty upsetting as I didn't think there was this level of hate in the UK. Also seeing the bigoted comments below is scary. I hope for peace between Israeli Jews and Palestinian Muslims and Christians.
Andrew I LOVE your videos, they're completely brilliant and give us the truth from decent, normal people, who think the way the majority of us do. Thank you for opening our eyes even wider, to what's going on.
I stand with the Jews and Israel. Sadly I'm losing friends because I think I know what is right which is not how they think. But for once I must stand on my beliefs no matter what.
Islamism is Islam. We used to call what we now call 'extremists' fundamentalists, and that was 100% accurate. If there isn't a fundamental problem how can being an extremist be a bad thing?
Thank you both for great work, inspiration and hope! I live in Sweden and would like to join an equivalent to OurFightUK in my country. I went to the website to ask if there was such an organization, but found no contact details. Can you tell me whom to contact in Sweden?
I am going to be honest here. I'm an English nationalist. I want England and the English to have the same rights and privileges as the rest of the union. A lot of prominent Jews have literally used their money power and influence to stamp on British nationalism and English nationalism. They've ignored the warnings of what the radical left and radical Islam would do and what their aims are. Anyone who's said anything against uncontrolled mass immigration literally have been labelled a Nazi. We have been warning you over 30 years what would happen. White working class kids faced the horror of industrial sex abuse by Muslim grooming gangs. Not a single influential Jewish person or group spoke up. Some were even part of the cover up. Rich influential Jews have been feeding the crocodile. Now it's bitten them.
I am not a Jew I did try learning Hebrew and visited Israel. I support Israel and her right to exist. I am also a remote and rural nurse and support United Hatzalah I’m also trans… You talk about woke. My trans wasn’t an issue at the Western wall when I was helped by an attendant. It wasn’t an issue when I offered my filthy trans money each Shabbat it never came up in the buses or trams but being trans came up several times in your interview. So sad… Am Yisrael chai
No-one has a problem with your being trans; the problem is with trans-activists and the ideology, which is anti-science, authoritarian, misogynist and homophobic and is a danger to vulnerable young people. If you align yourself with a movement that represents all that, and many trans people don't, then you are part of the problem. It sounds as if you don't, so the point you are trying to make is lost on me.
Wonderful gentleman. Thank you for having him as a guest! His evenness, clarity and obvious compassion clearly is the perfect foil to the mindless, ignorant screaming of the pro Hamas/antisemetic protesters. Just hearing people like him (and yourself) give me hope for the future!
This is one of the most sensible discussions on social politics and the conflict in and around the current climate. I'm from Australia, and I stand with Israel 🇮🇱 🇦🇺
I am a Latin, Catholic woman and I feel related. I support Israel because I know Islam first hand, I have amazing Jewish friends and just because it’s the right and sensible thing to do!! ❤️🇮🇱
i used to be a right wing thug neo nazi type but my political views changed as i got older and i suppose i'm now a british nationalis just too the right of center that only wants whats best for my ccountry and my ppl but since seeing some of the footage from oct 7th i stand with isreal and the jewish ppl were as before i really didnt have an opinion on the whole israeli palestinian fight .
I 29:20 agree so much about the start on 7th October. Living close to genZs: and they are very sensitive, and behind the Gender issue and Genocide too; and they are both educated and empathic..😮 but its very very difficult to have an open discussion- they mix in their empathy and believesystem into some not very entangled debate.. AND they dont know the historic/true meaning of Neither Genocide nor Gender- and lean only into their Rights to make new definitions - because of their age and being digital natives. My point. Im not in the Streets, but I do take the debates; When the arise. Keeping sanity listening in here.
They are not educated about history. Jews are the most persecuted culture in history. And paradoxically the smartest culture in history. They are hated for their success and intelligence in the face of the blood libel villifications they suffer. If you do not stand with Israel you do not stand with civilisation.
It's so illogical to pull a "breach of the peace" on peaceful demonstrators, just because the opposition has no self-control or decency. In the US we have a rule, "there's no such thing as fighting words," meaning there's nothing one can verbally say that justifies someone else committing violence due to it. In theory, it should work, but lately, it has been the opposite -- people are being blamed for inciting violence simply for offering a counterpoint to the popular opinion, and they get blamed for the violence committed on them. We are in bizarre times.
Nothing new, schools regularly punish bullying victims more often than the bullies themselves, and failed to uphold dignity and rights of children to be free from abuse. When you are taught to treat people like farm animals, you don't care who is right or wrong, so long as an illusion of peace is maintained. After all, that is how farmers stop pigs from acting out, and it keeps peace.
Have you got friends pretending Hamas aren't a problem? What else did you notice? Let me know in the comments - and check out my writings: andrewgoldheretics.com
Why dont you tell people about Irgun,Lehi and Haganah.
@@keksi6844our proud history, gladly.
Islam is the cult of death, rape, murder, ignorance, intolerance, cowardice, low IQ, illiteracy,
Hi France here !
TY so much this new great itw Andrew !
As for your question :
One of my best friend was born in a Muslim family but got away from religion & he got married to his bf (which ended up not being a real issue for his family).
Yet, we just discussed the issue once since oct 7 and it couldn’t go very far since his concern was only towards Israel & Jews. I believe there’s a tacit agreement in the Muslim culture/population on Jews being the ennemies, whatever the situation is.
It makes me very sad and I am perplexed on how we shall try to remove this irrational hate & all the violence going with it.
I wish I could state #IAmJew, tho I’m not, just to demonstrate my empathy & solidarity, but it’s way to dangerous, unfortunately.
Hey Andrew, where on earth did you get this idea that Jews are psyched when a gentile stoops to play a Jew in film? This pisses off a lot of Jews. Are you not familiar with the term “Jewface”?
I am a Jew and find it very heartwarming and touching an important when Jews stand up for us because our expectation is nobody will. We are a tiny minority and very alone. When feels like the whole world is against us, since October 7 we have learned that it’s true. People pretend we are just paranoid when in fact that’s just gaslighting. Thanks for standing up for us.
That’s the goal of the marches. They are trying to appear that they are the majority, but believe me there’s a silent majority here in the US that support you. We just don’t live in a big city and have jobs so we can’t march daily. I’m in Tulsa Ok btw
As a western citizen of the world here is a belief of mine, absent the Jews, we would have already realized that this is not a Jewish problem but just one front in very long war on our values. Alas, westerners do have a very confusing relationship with Jews that render us myopic. and @cheeefkeef8749 silent majority has no place in a democracy, freedoms are earned by the brave not by the silent.
@@cheefkeef8749 silent majority has no place in a democracy.
@@cheefkeef8749Thank you.
@@cheefkeef8749 Thank you for your kind words.
Andrew, almost nobody understands the complex history of that region, including me. But the willingness to find an opportunity to turn on all Jews in Western countries has astounded me. I was so no naive. I keep saying to people ‘so we hate Jews now, really?’ We’re all being played, but I’m not sure how it was done.
It was done when we imported Islamists and didn't expect assimilation
The very short answer is: The West imported muslims and their ideology. Rise of anti-semitism correlates with migrant influx across the board
Who exactly has turned on all Jews in Western countries?
Yes. And with infriltation, bribes and funding from some middle eastern countries.
@@zeldagoblin Yes, if you wanted assimilation, you have to educate educate educate in British values, British customs! The parents generation is a loss. But, given enough solid education in British values, the kids’ kids will be much more assimilated. But that has not really been done, has it??
As an Israeli terror survivor (2016, Sarona) I want to thank especially all those who are non jews who stand with us. Your support means a lot ❤
Us non Jews need to be more vocal, I'm as guilty as any other.
@@happyaslarry5839don’t blame yourself for the chokehold they have on society. Being a silent majority is also powerful
I'm very angry with those Jews in the West leading open borders charge to flood our nation's with Islamists refugees. No h8 on Jewry.
As non Jew from DK i support Zionisme and stand 100% with Israel
The majority of USA 🇺🇸 stands with Israel !
We are not “ friends of Hamas “ ❌💀❌
I am a Scottish Catholic and I fully stand with Israel and the Jewish people. I'm truly appalled and alarmed at the support for Hamas from some of my fellow countrymen. They must surely know that Hamas ARE a terrorist organization and what happened on October 7th was a horrific crime against humanity. In fact a genocidal attack against the 50:52 Jews.. The fact that the terrorists filmed these disgusting attacks on their body cams and boasted about it says a lot about their "humanity" and the sight of the people of Gaza cheering when shown the film footage filled me with despair. It was truly despicable and it's something I'll never forget. Brilliant conversation ,gents and i wholeheartedly agree with you. ❤👍
Read some history and then wonder why immigration policies have led to these foreign issues intruding on your countries sovereignty.
@@jonfoxtrot5135we gave former colinal countries independence so that they could self-govern, not to come back to the nation that supposedly abused them so much.
@golfbulldog so true, it's hypocrisy 101
I stopped supporting celtic because of the amount of support that are Hamas supporters( they somehow think they are the same as the ra🤷♂️)
Well said 🇦🇺
My daughter in law has a master's degree and works in London. When we last met it became apparent that she was only vaguely aware of the 7th October massacre and didn't have any particular opinion on the pro Hamas in London marches. It is most concerning that the younger generation are so ill informed.
I think some blame has to be attached to the education sector in this country. They are trying to whitewash history. Which means we will never learn from the mistakes we've made in the past
Even if there are some pro Hamas people in a march to support Palestinians doesn’t mean it’s a pro Hamas march. They are pro Palestinians. People support the Palestinians because they have empathy with their plight. Most of the young people I have talked to know quite a lot about the history of the region and that is precisely why they have sympathy for them.
@@jujutrini8412 no the others are useful idiots.
@travelingwestmusic5259 Israel bombed the churches and sniped Christians in Gaza. Israel deliberately murdered Christian Palestinians and replaces them from their homes and community.
Their education is also messed up, and quite a way from a proper citizenship education. They are taught to be robotic activists. You would think they were in the Hitler youth with the way they react, and that is why so many join the Palestine marches, and why so many suffer anxiety when faced with real work, because they are no longer taught to be grown-ups in education.
Ignorant or malicious, it no longer matters, they are ultimately supporting evil, and think they are being good. The same as Germans in 1942
At 46 minutes the distinction between Islam and other religions is that when you criticize Islam, it’s punishable by death. Not so with the other religions. Kind of a big difference.
Then why does the title of the video suggest that it's islamism that is the issue, not that other thing called islam?
Man you are really not bright
Shhhhh
@@minbari73 Probably don't want to be banned by Woketube
According to Islam, you are not really allowed not to be Muslim.
Stop trying to separate islam from political islam. It is the same damn thing. Islam IS political 🙄
It’s only really non religious educated Muslims ( who essentially aren’t really Muslims) who integrate.
And radical!
@sharontarin1310 indeed. By its very own words.
Islam is totalitarian religion system.
Barbaric and primitive as Muhammad.Creator of this religion.
Pervert,murder,and fake prophet.
Yes. Islamism is just Islam in action.
The University of Toronto granted amnesty to all Pro-Hamas protesters at the 2 month encampment held at the school.
To all students, all professors, all unions.
I quit 2 days ago. After almost 12 years of working there, this was the final straw.
They are ACTIVELY protecting terrorist sympathizers under the aegis of the right to protest.
They don't support the right to protest. Because they did not let the truckers protest.
@@flamingburrittoCorrect.
But the truckers were not:
Demanding the country of Canada be destroyed
Threatening one specific group with annihilation
For 2 months the terrorist sympathizers on the campus committed the following:
Threatened Jewish students
Called for intifada
Had posters of known terrorist groups
Had late night rallies demanding the destruction of Israel and its Jewish/Zionist inhabitants
All of this was captured by ONE news group and they were ignored because they are conservative.
Campus police were designated as protection for these groups
When one Jewish student decided to hold his own protest he was immediately removed and told he was trespassing.
@@flamingburrittoThese protesters were not the truckers.
Not even close.
😮
@@flamingburritto look up the work amnesty.
The left also allied itself with the mullahs in Iran at the onset of the Iranian revolution, but were quickly sidelined, jailed, executed, etc., after the mullahs gained power.
Shocked, lol.
This is what ISLAM is.
Communist never seems to learn any lessons.
@ricochet2977 also true.
@@ricochet2977 What has this to do with Communism? You literally have no idea about political theory do you. Communism is an economic theory.
I’m a Protestant from Lancashire and I stand with the Jewish people.
Which ones - those who support what Israel is doing or those who don't?
@@psymantronic1528I support all Jewish people everywhere. They are fighting against terrorists.
I grew up in the north, and never met a jew until I got sent to private school, where all the successful Jewish families sent their kids. They were all just normal kids, albeit bright and disciplined for the most part. It was many years later I found out my genetic father (I was adopted) was Jewish, so I share the bloodline. My best man at my wedding was a Jewish girl! Obviously I stand with my Jewish friends, but I was absolutely appalled by the explosion of antisemitism in non-muslims. The denial of Hamas atrocities is just next-level cope. I swear 90% of the pro-palestine mob know next to nothing about the issues and are just jumping on the latest holier-than-thou bandwagon for social clout, but real people are suffereing because of it. It's sick, and it's selfish.
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Shabbat Shalom, welcome to the tribe
@@WBAnimalMedicine ❤❤
Jews are annoyingly bright 😂😅😂
I don't think anti Isreal is necessarily anti semitic
What a good and sensible man. He could easily not bother.
I am not Jewish. A few days after the conflict had started I went to buy bread in my local Jewish bakers. I asked staff about relatives they had in Israel. I was amazed to find what genuine concern they had not only for the Jews but ALL of the people who were in fear of their lives in Gaza. If this was happening to my homeland and my people I would not give a single thought to those on the other side I'm somewhat ashamed to say. I left the shop feeling truly humbled.
Islam itself prohibits the criticism of it. It says it is the "direct speech from god and that is why it is whole, perfect and the truth" and critizinig it then is blasphemy.
It's like a cult!
It's not the only religion that imposes censorship or criticism.
? Islam is an ideology. They tell us they want world domination but we ignore it. Why? They dislike Jews, Christians, dogs and everyone and everything refusing to bow down to their confused dictates.
@@rukk_tx5285 It is a cult, minor correction.
It's from the root of Jesse.
Pherque Islam. Medieval ideology for medieval people. What on earth are they doing on our land?
Taking over.
Why any government or sane individual would want islam any where near them or in their western country is beyond me.
@@kieronbrowne7881that won’t happen. They are trying but we won’t let it happen. Have faith in the GOOD people of Europe.
@@chimera8421sadly it will.Have you been to London lately 😅
The good people of Europe will need to realise that faith and hope will not stop the spread of the cancer which is Islam, through our societies. A more visible, vocal and direct approach is needed before it's too late.
🇬🇧 It’s such a “British Culture” thing to make jokes about each other! “An Englishman, Irishman & Scotsman walk into a pub…”. Another vital part of British culture is being able to laugh at ourselves!
bit different I think. Four white blokes from the British Isles walk into a pub. This is a teddy bears' picnic compared to an israeli and a member of hamas walk into a bar.
They have not discussed the role of the UN and UNRWA in all of this.
Third worlders and musIems have united in their hate against the west
Indeed. UNRWA is a terrorist organization by any standards. The UN is nowadays the abode of tyrants and despots... just think about Iran in the "Human Rights" department :-))))))
Yeah that could be a whole podcast
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. The role of UNRWA???? You mean their role to fed, cloth and educate masses of displaced people? Oh, you're probably referring to Israels claim of UNRWA complicity in Oct 7th??? A claim for which not a single piece if evidence has been offered up by Israel. Even the UK resumed funding of UNRWA yesterday due to lack of evidence.😂😂😂
Labour have just unlocked funding to them
The Jews in London blend in so well with British society, so fluid. The Jews are part of our community, not other than us, part of us. My GP’s were Jewish, part of our community, practically family and friends. They were some of the kindest people I knew. They escaped the Holocaust as children, one from Austria, one from Hungary and they got married. They dedicated their life to to their patients from all faiths and backgrounds. They dedicated themselves to our local surgery and community. Some doctors are memorable. What I remember is their kindness, understanding and devotion. Olgar and Henry were rescued from under the noses of Nazis. They paid the UK back many times over.
In uk they don’t! They have their own closed communities and stay separate
@@lilasfaves7846 your speaking of ultra orthodox haredi and hassidic jews..
@@lilasfaves7846but can you blame them? The second world war isn't a distant memory.
I also think the Jews don't attempt to foist their own beliefs, wants, needs and preferences on the rest of society.
It isn't a crime to live quietly and keep yourself to your self.
@@lilasfaves7846 I explained my own experience. My local GP’s were engaged with and sought to better the lives of the local people. Their patients.. they engaged with us, helped us, knew us. They really did their best. They were not separate from us, there was no “us and them”. And they were trusted.
@@Sailfire1 that’s wonderful you had that experience as you say. My point was communities are often separate as their culture is so very different (wigs for women, different food, ceremonies and dress) there are many different forms of Judaism I guess
Thanks for remembering us, Mark!
We Iranians wish the world would realize that if they help us get rid of the Islamic Republic tyrant government, Middle East and the rest of the world would be have a much greater chance at peace and prosperity.
#woman-life-freedom
#WomanLifeFreedom
Well said. The world forgets that the people are not the governments. Too many people in the middle East and around the world are living in fear and have nothing to do with what their 'rulers ' do. I wish we could do something with the realisation that there are more of us than there is of them. Peace to you ❤
Persia, one of the great civilisations of the world, corrupted and desecrated by islam
I pray the UK is waking up to the threat Islam is to our countries. At the moment we are in the major but mass uncontrolled immigration is highlighting the majori
issues we are going to have if we don't address this. I wish the Iranian people were free as well. You should educate these blind people following this ideology they are clueless. I don't understand why moderate Muslims aren't saying no to Islamism
I STAND WITH ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE 🇮🇱
So do I. Nobody who at least knows history could stand with anybody else ❤️
@@raquelcastrovalente5673 🎯💯
Hahaha
@@murizmemic1812 PO
@@raquelcastrovalente5673History????? You mean Israel's history of settler/colonialism and occupation? What kind of history are you reading?
The trifecta indoctrination of post Colonial studies, identity politics and Intersectionality have had a devastating and insidious impact on Western democratic values.
Absolutely
Well said
They either never mention Hamas or they praise them.
Why did Israel fund Hamas?
@@musayibghani3986Good question but you won't get an answer here I'm afraid!!
@musayibghani3986 it is hamas who misused and corrupt the fund isreal give to built up gaza. Instead building a Singapore they built ter ror tunnels. Isreal fund hamas thought hamas is responsible government, but it turned out wrong. Hamas has the choice to be a respectable/reliable/responsible gov, but they chose ji had, they chose ter ror... why doublestandard? Why blame isreal? Money is neutral, it is hamas who have wicked intentions. Will you blame yourself for funding your own gov by giving tax, thinking gov will use it well but instead for politicians own benefit? Or will you blame those who misused it? Will u blame your own country for funding un/who/icj/unraw who don't work well? Or will u blame those in position inside un/who/icj/unraw who corrupt the money used the money for their own personal/ their party interest?
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla Hamas was a know terrorist organisation when Israel funded them in the first place. They did it so the PLO and Hamas were fighting each other and Hamas won. Israel didn't give them money to help the economy of gaza. They also wanted a more extreme group so the 2 state solution couldn't happen and that there would always be conflict. Look at the West Bank, no Hamas there only the Palestinian Authority who pledged non violence and yet 300 people there are killed by Israel every year with more than 1 million illegal settlements and forcefully displacing people from their homes. Don't tell me Israel is peace loving if they are going into the West Bank and commiting their crimes. Israel want to take the whole land and turn it into greater Israel.
@@musayibghani3986 (I'm trying to reply, but TH-cam a lot of the time deletes my comment...) Not "funding" but rather that Netanyahu allowed Qatar to deliver cash to Hamas, which is basically the governing body of Gaza (and is supposed to manage the civil servants). Was it a mistake? Yes. I'm glad Israel is finally going after Hamas
Not mentioning Hamas is quite an oversight. Thank you Andrew for giving your wonderful guest an opportunity to explain about his protest in favor of Israel and Jews.
I'm a carer in a nursing home I had the privilege of looking after a beautiful Jewish lady who haf terminal cancer during the lockdown. She had 2 lovely daughters who where still able to visit her as long as they had a test for covid. They were a beautiful family and when their mother did pass away the family gave every member of staff a voucher for M&S. Such generous people ❤
Andrew gold thank you for this important interview with this amazing 🧍♂️ Mark Birbeck 🦅 , Israel 🇮🇱 thank you,we need more people like you,smarter and brave than most “Woking”people today and understand this important issue ❗️🏴🇮🇱❗️
Am Israel Chai 🇮🇱! Thank you
There is no islamism, only islam.
Yes, there's Islam and then there are nominal Muslims who hate the jihadis.
UK is now understanding it more after the 'muslim vote' in the recent election
I don’t think it’s enough to say “Hamas are terrorists.” Say “Hamas are Nazis.”
A most excellent point!
God bless you and your family!
That is a fact when you see how many of these Islamists have been found to have copies of Mein Kampf. Also if you look at how many Arab Muslim countries collaborated with the Nazis during WW2 as well. Which is extremely ironic when you think most of these pro Hamas marches have ANTFA as allies and have the front to call Israel Nazis, smh.
They're not though. Hamas are arguably worse.
100%
Why arent Hamas held to the same standards as Israel. I support Israel and im fed up with these issues being played out on our streets. Why dont these vocal protestors go back to palastine with their rosey coloured glasses on and help rebuild palastine. No thought not im disgusted by the reaction to this program . Your not alone Israel
How do you separate islam from islamism? As far as I can see they are indistinguishable.
The real islam is how Mohammed lived. All Muslims are told by scripture to live as mohammed did. He was a warlord executioner Robber Rapist Slave trader and peado . That is the real islam.
exactly.
Islamism = Islam that’s being observed :)
Islamism is the snake in the grass , islam is the grass that hides the snake.
@@robyngrieve5495 so...Islam then. A western concept to separate the "good" muslims from the bad ones. I remember asking a Pakistani Muslim what islamism and Islamists were and he had no idea.
"Never underestimate the power of Antisemitism". Jordan Peterson.
Oh well, if Jordan Peterson says it, it must be true😂😂😂😂😂
@@stephendoherty981 not necessarily "everything he says"... but most of the things he says are profound and insightful. He is a brilliant man, whether you like him or not. On this one - he is absolutely accurate.
The things antisemitism makes people do... it is a deep satanic ancient hate, that still exists, mainly other Abrahamic faiths mostly, especially in isl am unfortunately.
These days 'pro palestine' is a synonym of antisemitism. One can't openly be the latter as one is then labelled an antisemite, however being openly pro palestinian is almost praised despite being essentially the same.
@@triumphstagdriverI think it’s a mix of some people being antisemites and others being ignorant, not realizing they’re actually supporting antisemites and antisemitic rhetoric.
@@chenrhrh And yet here you are displaying all your ignorance by deliberately conflating 'anti-Zionism' with 'antisemitism' or conflating being 'anti-genocide' with 'antisemitism'!!!!! It's a shameful and cheap comparison designed to deflect away Israels war crimes.
The whole distinction between Islamisism and Islam makes no sense. Unless these are not properly understood there will be no solution.
The distinction is made because there are plenty of moderate Muslims in the West who don't actually believe in the hugely problematic aspects of the religion. People who make the distinction fall into three categories. One is those whose only knowledge of Islam comes from those moderate Muslims (or from the few Muslim apologists who still portray the religion as the moderate version). One is people who are worried that criticising Islam will be understood as attacking the moderate versions as well as the traditional ones. The third would be those who are worried that criticising Islam will move those moderates to embrace the full package of Islamic beliefs.
I thought the same thing when he said it so added a comment then read yours. Islam is the root of Islamism so is very much the problem. You can't get away from it and it's disingenuous to gloss over that in an attempt to appease people that don't want to hear the truth. Cultural Muslims is a better way of separating moderate Muslims from Islam. The ideology is in essence very problematic but many Muslims are not even aware of tis. They don't understand their own religion and probably not that interested in looking into it. To ignore it though is complicity.
@@latasha9898Non religious Muslims are fine but essentially they are not really Muslims…
This is a great conversation! I feel quite inspired, and brave, after hearing about Mark's perspective. Fantastic to hear this!! 😊
I STAND WITH ISRAEL AND THE JEWISH PEOPLE. LOVE FROM BRITAIN
If the police can not guarantee anyone’s safety (including their own) because of those at the pro Palestinian march, then said march needs to be prohibited
Absolutely
I stand with Jews, Israel whatever. I lived with a Jewish family for three years and I loved them, still do. My father is pro Palestine and we have agreed to disagree. Numbers are a huge issue now? But many brits are starting to wake up.
Yes me too my family live in England ( I dont) and they say Im on the 'wrong" side...I dont discuss it anymore...they are brainwashed with the BBC...( Screw the BBC).
Ditto..my family live in England watching their BBC propaganda daily..I dont live there and having asserted our difference of opinion..We have to not talk about it. But yes I hope that one day soon the truth will out ..about the fake images ( from Syria) the lies about the numbers of casualties made up by hammas, the propaganda about Zionists and settlers, the BS repeated 'g' word, I hope one day very soon they will all eat their bloody words and bend their heads in shame. When the legal procedures on the campuses begins, When the ACTUAL numbers of casualties is cut in half, When believing in a cult that took millions from unwra and un to make tunnels and falsely declare their people as refugees..One could go on...this tide has GOT to turn
Your father sounds like an honourable man with a strong sense of justice and humanity.
Being Pro-Palestine doesn't not necessarily mean a person is pro-Hamas though. I'm a Zionist but I still think it's important to criticize the Israeli government and stand in solidarity of peaceful Palestinians.
Ever since October 7th and the aftermath happened, I've noticed that there are other ideological parties that are hijacking the Gazan solidarity movement under the guise of humanitarian grounds who actually have their own agendas in mind - such as some Marxists Leninists and Islamists. Meanwhile on the Pro-Israel side, there are possibly white nationalist extremists and actual fascists groups disguised as Zionists. My point is, the conflict is so messed up and complex, things can get so confusing and polarized that a lot of people tend to miss the bigger picture.
@@Pr0fane26Exactly. People don’t get that Zionism is inherently two state solution friendly since 1947! If there will be any significant pro Palestinian movement who loudly and proudly endorses two state solution I’d be pro Palestinian people myself! 90% of those who define themselves pro Palestinian are people who put an X on Israeli map and say it’s ALL Palestine. And use buzzwords like “humanity” . Pfffft 🤦🏻♂️
I think it's insane to state a country should not exist. Who are they that say these things? They who say these things should look at their own evil hearts and cry.
And funny how nobody else wants the palestinians
i wonder why
The idea that Israel is committing a genocide in Gaza is one these clownworld moments which baffle me.
It's basically the opposite of what is true. Hamas would like to commit a genocide on Jews and they gladly tell you so (from the River to the sea) but aren't strong/armed enough to do so.
It looks like gen 0 c1de to me due to statements made by various Israeli officials and the fact that a significant proportion of the Palestinian population have been killed.
Also it is actually not true to say Hamas are committed to gen 0 c1de. Their charter decrys anti semetism and makes it clear their issue is with the Israeli state not all Jews.
Islam is the threat. Some moderately nicely spoken Muslims are classified as islam and the violently active are classified as islamists. Andrew got it right! Thank you Mark for all you are doing we are really grateful.
Those moderates need to take a stance against the Islamists otherwise they will be tarred with the same brush. When I see pushback then I’ll believe it. Up until now there’s been crickets.
@@megansummersides4255 if the moderates are too afraid to even speak up, what does it say about the religion? Political correctness on this issue will only make things worse. Easy question, in which muslim majority country can anyone raise an Israeli flag without getting arrested
Thank you, Mark, for doing what you do. It’s a necessary counterbalance that shows support, though not everyone would have thought of it nor have the will to see it through
Positive masculinity on display! We need more like you two!! ❤❤❤
Islam and Islamism ARE THE SAME THING. It has always been both a political and religious belief system. To turn a blind eye to that will hand them victory. Stop comparing it to other religious systems. It is fundamentally different from ALL of them.
Same thing as Judaism though. It’s both a political and religious belief. Christian empires ruled the world for 100s of years until 200 years ago when people separated church and state. All religions have their own laws.
@@DMaybach93 whataboutism. My point is that people do not understand or don't want to admit WHAT Islam is at its core
@@icarusjumped2719 it’s not whataboutism though. You said it’s fundamentally different from all of the religions. I just pointed out that’s it’s not, but actually exactly alike. The only differences between the religions are the theology and the laws. But they’re all pretty much the same thing.
@daudmaybach7449 but its not. It is vastly different in almost every respect. Its a death cult. Most religions celebrate life. Islam celebrates death. That is the core difference. Before you even start on the political differences, you are already starting from a VASTLY different position than 90% of othe religions
@daudmaybach7449 No, they are not anything alike at all. From the basics, Islam worships death. The others worship life.
The majority of all civilised people love and support the Jews. God bless you all.
Minor correction: Shavuot is not a "festival of cheesecake". It is another harvest festival, and the celebration of the giving of the Torah. An Israeli dairy company, Tnuva, popularized the custom of eating dairy foods, especially cheesecake, pastida and cheese burekas.
True, but it’s still funny the way he says it.
As for Andrew, he can certainly laugh as much as he wants about his rabbi - but not during the service. It’s just plain rude. There’s a correct time for everything.
Thank you for saying this Deborah! Kinda makes me sad that Andrew doesn't know about Shavuot :(
It's such a wonderful holiday! This past Shavuot ended up being very special and I have a feeling this year's High Holy Days will be very consequential. I know this sentiment is way early, but may you be sealed in the Book of Life
Not exactly 😂. Jews have been avoiding eating meat on Shavuot long before Tnuva existed. The idea behind it is that we didn't have time to learn the laws of kashrut so meat was avoided when the Torah was first received and we avoid meat in solidarity.
It makes me feel so sad that Jewish people expect people to hate them. It's so horrific. Not everyone holds this mindset.
Please have Dr Bill Warner on the show and make this guy watch 🙄. Give this guy some of his books to read. Sick to death of people pandering to Islamists without knowing the first thing about the religion because they have a friend who ‘told them it’s a religion of peace.’ 🙄
Agree - he doesn’t seem to know or understand anything about Islam.
Why any government or sane individual would want islam any where near them or in their western country is beyond me.
No mention of Hamas; now I am hearing a lot of talk questioning if Oct. 7 was really that bad, saying that aspects that have been reported did not actually happen, and focusing on what Israel did wrong on Oct. 7. Very weird and unbalanced.
Are you not aware of the Hannibal Directive or something? Or that they were warned - several times - before it happened?
@@rgghjs9270 Exactly
What utter nonsense. 😡
i warned people that the Ummha and the Socialist antisemites would try to make the world forget October 7th from day one, its their tactics for 20 years now... what hurts their "narrative" did not happen. they want the world to think the Jews are responsible for everything bad in the world cos Socialists and Muslims are too afraid to take responsibility for their own actions.
@@rgghjs9270omg go away
We are at a dangerous place when society laps up totally inaccurate information and fail to understand basic facts. This boils down in failing to teach basic facts of history in school.
You're very right about the silent majority. In France, polls consistently show popular support for Israel and fear that similar massacres may happen in France, while the elite slanders Israel.
The IDF is the most moral army in the world and actually have the lowest combattant to civilian ratio ever seen in an urban context, even though Hamas uses civilians as human shields, and fights in civilian clothing.
The emaciated kid's mother is obese, not consistent with famine, and even the UN has recognised that there was no famine.
"Palestinians" are simply Arabs from surrounding countries who have no real roots in Israel. When people used "Palestinians" before 1948, they meant Jews in the British Mandate of Palestine, whose flag carried a red Star of David!!! I have an old dictionary proving this. There never was a country/nation called "Palestine"! That's a historic fact. "Palestine" was invented by Yasser Arafat with help from the Soviet Union in the 70s.
WOKE has gone too far and I’m an old fashioned Democrat.
Same here, not this totalitarian, anti-democratic and violent "left".
Same, friend. Same. Over the past 5-6 years or so, I've become politically homeless.
@@ashextraordinaire Me too. Find myself siding with the right more & more
@@juliechurley2716 I'll find my place in the middle. I check a lot of the boxes for people the right abhors -- pro-choice, non-Christian, childfree, gay... yeah, I'm not welcome on that side. :)
@@ashextraordinaire Have to agree.
Thank you guys for having this conversation, I really wish everyone will see this.
There are people claiming they're the descendants of moors with right to return who already picked rich Spanish houses they want to move in. And there's hamastinians claiming they own the Big Ben.
In Islam it's written that if Muslims once held land,it belongs to them for ever,just like Israel. They do believe Spain belongs to them.
Jews of Sephardic descent have been allowed Spanish citizenship though. Because they were expelled from Spain. So why don't Muslims get the same? Because Muslims were invaders? Well, actually some of them were Spanish locals who converted to Islam. Some of them were born there generations after the Muslim conquest. So, no.
Yes, were invaders, proseliting and taxing (jyzia). It took almost 700 years to kick them out.
@@timvella1817 Even more reason why the collective West and democratic East, needs to stand united against Islam
@@rukk_tx5285 Ok so would you kick Christians out of America and Africa, and send them all back to Europe?
We aren't allowed to question or criticize Islam (just ask Ayaan Hirsi Ali), which should tell you all you need to know with respect to who's really in charge of Western Civilization.
Yeah: western women who see all non-whites and non-westerners as blameless infants.
Brilliant!! Featured a mention to the guys in Our Fight recently but more people need to be aware of their great work
There is no Islam without Islamism since Medina.
Thank you for an incredible session and for your support @mark Birbeck.
This discussion is priceless. Thank you so much for sharing your views and thought leadership.
Look up Purim, we have a holiday that requires getting drunk😂😂😂
Interestingly it usually falls close to St Patrick's day 😂
I didn't get drunk on Purim, i just ate a bunch of doritos.
@@RoxanneLavender bad jew 😂
לא בטוח מה הקשר אבל צודק
Andrew Gold’s channel is simply the BEST!
Agree. I used to watch Triggernometry, which is good, but this channel gives more time for the guests to talk.
See no HAMAS, hear no HAMAS…
By the waters of Babylon
We lay down and
wept and wept for thee Zion🇮🇱
Thank you Andrew for this segment..you guest made things a lot clearer for me..
I stand firm with Israel
Trans Women in Women's Sport is a big issue at the moment. To be fair - there is a Woke team in our local football league called LGBT+ United. We played an Away game at their ground which was right next to the Conversion Clinic. Unfortunately some of our shots went over and landed in their back garden so after the Match a couple of the Trans Women went around and knocked the Clinic's door and asked: "Can we have our balls back, please?".
(Sorry! you asked for jokes - just breaking the ice)
I hope me supporting Israel is not classed as hate speech
Allahu Akbar means "God is Greatest." It's based in religious supersessionism - Islam dominating Christianity and Judaism. It's the equivalence of "My sky dad can beat up your sky dad."
From one MARK to another! MARK, if you consider Political Islam, or 'Islamism' to be different from simple ISLAM, you need to undertake more study. You might start with asking where 'authority' lies within Islam; such that we are able to judge, by Islamic standards, whether an action (eg Jew-murder) is 'Islamic' or 'haram' (forbidden). Before you answer that question, read Koran, 'The House of Imran' (Ch 3) verses 5 and following. These verses tell you the Koran must be accepted exactly as written, devoid of hermeneutical considerations such as 'context', date when writeen, or the circumstances. The Koran MUST be taken at face value! There are no verses like these in the entirety of the Hebrew, or Koine Greek, parts of our Bible. Sure, 2 Tim 3 describes scripture as "God breathed"; but leaves the reader to decide what that entails. It is not merely HAMAS which is the problem (much as politicians might like to persuade us!): but it is ISLAM which is the problem. This is why our indigenous forebears had the wisdom to keep it well away from the West!
It is encouraging that Muslim channels are proliferating on TH-cam that question the dogma of Islam. I think I can safely mention the Apostate Prophet, but there are more and more apostates and muslims showing themselves with honesty, rather than the finger waving beardies. There is obviously some kind of war going on in Islam itself at the moment, and those in contact are getting caught up in the crossfire.
i have heard alot of racism from some British Jews towards British Arabs and Pakistanis, and even towards Palestinian christians is pretty upsetting as I didn't think there was this level of hate in the UK. Also seeing the bigoted comments below is scary. I hope for peace between Israeli Jews and Palestinian Muslims and Christians.
Have you heard the protestors every damn weekend? I’d feel the same if I were Jewish.
@@megansummersides4255
Lots of non Zionist Jews are at the protest. Stop being dishonest
@@Tokyodisco1 please don’t equate that to Jewish hatred from Muslims. Even your Quran teaches to hate Jews.
@@megansummersides4255 Stop equating it with the hatred of Jews by some m**lims. Your books also teaches you to hate them. That’s how bad it is.
Andrew I LOVE your videos, they're completely brilliant and give us the truth from decent, normal people, who think the way the majority of us do. Thank you for opening our eyes even wider, to what's going on.
I stand with the Jews and Israel. Sadly I'm losing friends because I think I know what is right which is not how they think. But for once I must stand on my beliefs no matter what.
Islamism is Islam. We used to call what we now call 'extremists' fundamentalists, and that was 100% accurate.
If there isn't a fundamental problem how can being an extremist be a bad thing?
Really good discussion with a wonderful guest that really understands the important issues here.
Wonderful talk. Im hungry to hear these things. Us Brits need this.
Thank you both for great work, inspiration and hope!
I live in Sweden and would like to join an equivalent to OurFightUK in my country. I went to the website to ask if there was such an organization, but found no contact details.
Can you tell me whom to contact in Sweden?
This Christian stands with his Jewish brothers and sisters 🇫🇴🙏✝️
Sending love to the Jewish community ❤
I am going to be honest here.
I'm an English nationalist.
I want England and the English to have the same rights and privileges as the rest of the union.
A lot of prominent Jews have literally used their money power and influence to stamp on British nationalism and English nationalism.
They've ignored the warnings of what the radical left and radical Islam would do and what their aims are.
Anyone who's said anything against uncontrolled mass immigration literally have been labelled a Nazi.
We have been warning you over 30 years what would happen.
White working class kids faced the horror of industrial sex abuse by Muslim grooming gangs.
Not a single influential Jewish person or group spoke up. Some were even part of the cover up.
Rich influential Jews have been feeding the crocodile.
Now it's bitten them.
I am not a Jew I did try learning Hebrew and visited Israel. I support Israel and her right to exist. I am also a remote and rural nurse and support United Hatzalah I’m also trans… You talk about woke. My trans wasn’t an issue at the Western wall when I was helped by an attendant. It wasn’t an issue when I offered my filthy trans money each Shabbat it never came up in the buses or trams but being trans came up several times in your interview. So sad… Am Yisrael chai
What’s your point exactly?
No-one has a problem with your being trans; the problem is with trans-activists and the ideology, which is anti-science, authoritarian, misogynist and homophobic and is a danger to vulnerable young people. If you align yourself with a movement that represents all that, and many trans people don't, then you are part of the problem. It sounds as if you don't, so the point you are trying to make is lost on me.
@@megansummersides4255 that conservatives will use any opportunity to shoehorn their hatred of trans people into a debate or discussion
Wonderful gentleman. Thank you for having him as a guest! His evenness, clarity and obvious compassion clearly is the perfect foil to the mindless, ignorant screaming of the pro Hamas/antisemetic protesters. Just hearing people like him (and yourself) give me hope for the future!
I've noticed a lot isn't being posted of late. Not here as of yet but this is just me testing
Try writing something contentious. Google is DEI now. Google owns uTube
@@joso7228 it's always been CIA, that's where they got the start up cash money dollar dollar bills yoo!!! (that should get through, seems dumb enough)
Yep the Tube censoring like crazy of late, Wonder why🤔
@@joso7228 i replied to this 6 days ago talking about ownership of said companies and their intent. funny that didn't show up.
@@megansummersides4255 I tend to copy and paste what i intend to post, time and date it with the URL in notes. When i can be bothered.
This is one of the most sensible discussions on social politics and the conflict in and around the current climate.
I'm from Australia, and I stand with Israel 🇮🇱 🇦🇺
Tack för ert kloka samtal
I'm an American Atheist. I stand fully behind Israel, her people and the Jewish Diaspora. 🇺🇸🕊️🇮🇱
Woman Life Freedom ❤ from a persian jew
Thank you for your amazing allyship! But mostly for your rational clear thinking, empathy and activism.
Looking forward to this one!
Very important conversation.
always enjoy your videos, thanks ❤
Stand up for your people Andrew Gold .God bless Israel .We support Israel 💯✡️🇮🇱💙🙏
I am a Latin, Catholic woman and I feel related. I support Israel because I know Islam first hand, I have amazing Jewish friends and just because it’s the right and sensible thing to do!! ❤️🇮🇱
Great discussion. Thank you Mark!
Love what you're doing 😍
i used to be a right wing thug neo nazi type but my political views changed as i got older and i suppose i'm now a british nationalis just too the right of center that only wants whats best for my ccountry and my ppl but since seeing some of the footage from oct 7th i stand with isreal and the jewish ppl were as before i really didnt have an opinion on the whole israeli palestinian fight .
I 29:20 agree so much about the start on 7th October.
Living close to genZs: and they are very sensitive, and behind the Gender issue and Genocide too; and they are both educated and empathic..😮 but its very very difficult to have an open discussion- they mix in their empathy and believesystem into some not very entangled debate.. AND they dont know the historic/true meaning of Neither Genocide nor Gender- and lean only into their Rights to make new definitions - because of their age and being digital natives.
My point.
Im not in the Streets, but I do take the debates; When the arise.
Keeping sanity listening in here.
They are not educated about history. Jews are the most persecuted culture in history. And paradoxically the smartest culture in history. They are hated for their success and intelligence in the face of the blood libel villifications they suffer. If you do not stand with Israel you do not stand with civilisation.
The festival of cheescake is Shavu'ot, celebrated about a month ago
It's so illogical to pull a "breach of the peace" on peaceful demonstrators, just because the opposition has no self-control or decency. In the US we have a rule, "there's no such thing as fighting words," meaning there's nothing one can verbally say that justifies someone else committing violence due to it. In theory, it should work, but lately, it has been the opposite -- people are being blamed for inciting violence simply for offering a counterpoint to the popular opinion, and they get blamed for the violence committed on them. We are in bizarre times.
Nothing new, schools regularly punish bullying victims more often than the bullies themselves, and failed to uphold dignity and rights of children to be free from abuse.
When you are taught to treat people like farm animals, you don't care who is right or wrong, so long as an illusion of peace is maintained. After all, that is how farmers stop pigs from acting out, and it keeps peace.
Lol you eat cheese products on the Jewish holiday called Shavuot😅 at the beginning could not understand what you were talking about 😂😂
It's not authentic though, but a successful PR from Tnuva. 🙂It's about the fruits of the earth, and receiving the Torah.
@@LittleAriel True!!
As a Christian I stand with the Jews.