They will never let people change their mapping during a race and unless its a open class you wont be able to run the high horsepower but i would love to see guys racing them at say 55 or so horsepower
That would be great to have those rules. As long as they actually enforce it. I don’t see much enforcement to rules at my local races.. not complaining though
@@B2C2007 gas bikes can't add or subtract 20 horsepower at the click of a button. If a 450 has like 55 horsepower why would they let an electric bike use 80? They won't even let 300cc strokes race
@@cbogolo gas bikes could easily be set to lose 20hp at the touch of a button and have maps that are switchable during that race. Your point about power is a different one to my original one: the Stark IS an 80hp bike from the factory and ICE bikes may not be able to compete with that. To clarify my point is that the new variables that electric bikes present should not be artificially hamstrung by current gas bikes. The racing will of course need to be fair and that may not be possible by arbitrarily limiting these new type of bikes.
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For years now, every manufacture have been touting their brand as the one to give you an advantage NOW here is a bike that actually gives you an advantage
It'll be interesting to see how the market responds to increasingly positive news about the Varg. You clearly can't buy anything to compete with 80hp yet but is it worth KTM doubling down on ICE tech that young people won't want to buy in future or turn up with an e-contender?
Was doing some research on the net cause I really want one but dam they are crazy expensive... around 600k in mauritius so not for right now... I'll have to save up for a bit 😅 oh and I saw there's a 60hp version witch I think is more than enough power and it's cheaper.... love that bike!!!
@@motoblast3574 Nice! So 5 people rode it, each person did about 3-4 laps at what looks to be a Class B intensity. So about 20 laps total. It took you about 2 minutes to finish a lap. So about 40 minutes. So range is about 30-40 minutes approximately. As long as I bring a generator there will be absolutely no issues! Thank you for the info!
If you ran it at 80hp all the time it would kill the overall life of the battery faster because of high temperatures, not to mention less run time while you're actually riding. 50-60hp would be ideal.
Right it would drain the battery but most likely you wouldn’t be on the full power if that makes sense. I rode it at 80hp and had to literally just ride with less throttle everywhere to keep it straight
@@motoblast3574 That is true, even more reason to just use 60hp or so. Because if you can't use the extra power effectively on track there isn't much point.
@@motoblast3574 yes i knw the bike, but i read something about a abodement on point ##2.1 at the agb's or is it possible the they cut the app function later and you have to buy the premium abo für 100+ modi
I wonder how much longer before we see the big boys on these things in the SuperX circuit? I know the traditionalists will fight it, but eventually they have to be accepted for the sport to innovate and thrive.
I think they should be allowed to race un-restricted the same as 4-strokes came into racing. At first 4-strokes sucked and were allowed double the engine size. Then after years of refinement look at 4 strokes today. Let the electric bikes have that same chance. We the riders will benefit.
To be fair they stopped most r&d on 2 strokes like 4 years before they started pushing 4 strokes and the first few years they sucked so thats like 7 years of no updated 2 stroke development when 4 strokes took over and that was mainly pushed by environmentalists because the American factories were in California were they put limitations on the usage of 2 stroke motors in the mid to late 90's
@@motoblast3574 2 strokes had 30 years of innovation and slowed in progression compared to the years put into 4 strokes when they came out so the ama or whoever needs to make adjustments. If they want real competitive racing that sells more bike which seems like their objective than why not allow bigger cc 2 strokes race like they did when they jumped from 400 and 426 to 450 cc 4 strokes. Bring in 300cc 2 strokes and 150's. Some guys coming from amateurs might flourish on a 2 stroke because of their style.
I’m certain the suspension feels sooo good in large part on a Stark because of the motor and how it delivers its power. Even on a 450 with the same components (YZ450), it’s amazing the difference in suspension feel if you just stop revving it hard. Shift up a gear, let the torque do the work and it’s amazing how much more calm and compliant the suspension instantly feels.
There’s video of Ken roczen riding one. They are not on podiums yet because they are not even out or considered a production bike as of now. There are rules to racing and I’m not quite sure they are approved yet
Any top level pro (who you’d recognise) would be under a contract that would definitely prohibit them from riding a Stark (or any other manufacturers bike) - we only got to see Kenny ride one because he was between contracts.
Taking away shifting with a clutch is massively dumbing down motocross alone. I'm not totally opposed to EV but set them aside from gas powered, clutch racing. Most likely EV will fall into place with SX, arena cross, and arena hard enduro. MX would come along with so many changes that gas would be quickly obsolete. We don't need to do that. Really it doesn't make sense to run EV with gas. Keep them separate. Gas isn't going to beat these bikes once they are refined enough. Why should they take over completely?? The whole "better for the environment" excuse is a total crock of shit! It's totally crazy that even 2 strokes were attacked for that excuse. Cars shouldn't even ne yhe subject of environmental hazard either. All the massive industries that burn literally hundreds of millions of combined gallons a day should be where EV is first being a substitute.
I’d be down to check one out when they make one the weight and power of a 350. Why make a heavy bike with more HP? That’s dumb, I know it’s cool to impress the people who don’t know shit with big #s but those aren’t the guys who buy bikes and ride.
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It’s a unfair advantage some kids been training starts since they came out the womb how’s this any different? Fuck it I say cheat cheat cheat that’s what all the pros are doing too on all those PED’s they’re on 😂
80 HP and no shifting... that's going to be hard to compete with. Great riding too!
Thank you so much! I agree.. it almost seems it should have its own class. Thanks for watching!
Hell yeah that's going to be hard to beat. Nuff said Mike
@@motoblast3574good vid bro
That little battery can sustain 65,000 watts? Or did the manufacturer lie?
Vet riders will want them.
No Doubt! They certainly are fun and fast
Silent Rooster 🐔…already trademarked 😂
They will never let people change their mapping during a race and unless its a open class you wont be able to run the high horsepower but i would love to see guys racing them at say 55 or so horsepower
That would be great to have those rules. As long as they actually enforce it. I don’t see much enforcement to rules at my local races.. not complaining though
If changing mapping is seen as advantageous and a benefit why would your first reaction be to ban that? Can't gas bikes handle a little innovation?
@@B2C2007 gas bikes can't add or subtract 20 horsepower at the click of a button. If a 450 has like 55 horsepower why would they let an electric bike use 80? They won't even let 300cc strokes race
@@cbogolo gas bikes could easily be set to lose 20hp at the touch of a button and have maps that are switchable during that race. Your point about power is a different one to my original one: the Stark IS an 80hp bike from the factory and ICE bikes may not be able to compete with that. To clarify my point is that the new variables that electric bikes present should not be artificially hamstrung by current gas bikes. The racing will of course need to be fair and that may not be possible by arbitrarily limiting these new type of bikes.
Kick ass bike. The future generations of the bike can only get better
We need to see these on race day!
Can’t wait to see it
Wow!Sick bike🤜💥👍 Sweet track ⚡ETOWN BABY Bring it
It would be awesome to do a race on this thing at etown! Thank you
Welcome to the fun ⚡️⚡️⚡️⚡️
It’s an unreal ride
come back bro , shere to us your bike
@bryarjamak im injured at the moment but will be back on the bike soon!
Need a drone filming content like this bro
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For years now, every manufacture have been touting their brand as the one to give you an advantage
NOW here is a bike that actually gives you an advantage
I agree 100%
It'll be interesting to see how the market responds to increasingly positive news about the Varg. You clearly can't buy anything to compete with 80hp yet but is it worth KTM doubling down on ICE tech that young people won't want to buy in future or turn up with an e-contender?
Was doing some research on the net cause I really want one but dam they are crazy expensive... around 600k in mauritius so not for right now... I'll have to save up for a bit 😅 oh and I saw there's a 60hp version witch I think is more than enough power and it's cheaper.... love that bike!!!
Wow that’s crazy. Good option l. I was not aware of that
Nice review :) When the voiceover started it was hardly understandable... too much noise and people still talking in the background
Thanks. Yes I’m just realizing the background noise was too high 🥶
As an average rider. Thank you for the review! How much battery was left after you did those laps?
We shared the bike totaling 5 motos about 3-4 laps and it had 20% left after. That’s riding sand as well
@@motoblast3574 Nice! So 5 people rode it, each person did about 3-4 laps at what looks to be a Class B intensity.
So about 20 laps total. It took you about 2 minutes to finish a lap. So about 40 minutes.
So range is about 30-40 minutes approximately.
As long as I bring a generator there will be absolutely no issues!
Thank you for the info!
I can understand the voice over with the background sound on.
Yes I sort of screwed that up and noticed too late
Lots of people getting these recently even competing in Xgames!
Yes! Just seeing a lot of videos now
They probably have 25k bikes that were presold plus what has been ordered this year to get through before they will be in stores im guessing
Sounds right
Was this filmed a long time ago or something since people have been getting these since the end of May?
Not too long ago.
If you ran it at 80hp all the time it would kill the overall life of the battery faster because of high temperatures, not to mention less run time while you're actually riding.
50-60hp would be ideal.
Right it would drain the battery but most likely you wouldn’t be on the full power if that makes sense. I rode it at 80hp and had to literally just ride with less throttle everywhere to keep it straight
@@motoblast3574 That is true, even more reason to just use 60hp or so. Because if you can't use the extra power effectively on track there isn't much point.
You're the type of guy tell a Ferrari owner it's bad on gas tho 😂😂😂
nice, how expensive is the pro version stark varg app with much mappings?
They are 13k
@@motoblast3574 yes i knw the bike, but i read something about a abodement on point ##2.1 at the agb's or is it possible the they cut the app function later and you have to buy the premium abo für 100+ modi
Everyone talks about the motor but that's just one small piece of an mx bike. Frame? Fit and feel? Comfort? Handling? Suspension?
All other aspects are honestly amazing.
I wonder how much longer before we see the big boys on these things in the SuperX circuit? I know the traditionalists will fight it, but eventually they have to be accepted for the sport to innovate and thrive.
Right! Only time will tell
When did you order yours?
I didn’t order one actually
I think they should be allowed to race un-restricted the same as 4-strokes came into racing. At first 4-strokes sucked and were allowed double the engine size. Then after years of refinement look at 4 strokes today. Let the electric bikes have that same chance. We the riders will benefit.
I’m sure they will be allowed in the open class. Yes, it basically reminds me of when the four strokes were allowed in with double the cc
To be fair they stopped most r&d on 2 strokes like 4 years before they started pushing 4 strokes and the first few years they sucked so thats like 7 years of no updated 2 stroke development when 4 strokes took over and that was mainly pushed by environmentalists because the American factories were in California were they put limitations on the usage of 2 stroke motors in the mid to late 90's
Right! I still love my 2 strokes as well.
@@motoblast3574 2 strokes had 30 years of innovation and slowed in progression compared to the years put into 4 strokes when they came out so the ama or whoever needs to make adjustments. If they want real competitive racing that sells more bike which seems like their objective than why not allow bigger cc 2 strokes race like they did when they jumped from 400 and 426 to 450 cc 4 strokes. Bring in 300cc 2 strokes and 150's. Some guys coming from amateurs might flourish on a 2 stroke because of their style.
"..I don't have to worry about the noise". Yet. Also first time I've heard the sentiment that gas bikes might soon be the 'victims'.
EVERY review I've seen people say how amazing the suspension was. Why are the other manufactures behind? Like Tesla did...
I’m certain the suspension feels sooo good in large part on a Stark because of the motor and how it delivers its power.
Even on a 450 with the same components (YZ450), it’s amazing the difference in suspension feel if you just stop revving it hard. Shift up a gear, let the torque do the work and it’s amazing how much more calm and compliant the suspension instantly feels.
I think the hp get restricted
Comes with a case of Budlights I’ll stick with my 2024 300 husky 2 stroke
Haha
ITS GONE BE HARD TO BEAT THE VARG GOOD LUCK 😔 TO GAS BUT ELECTRIC TAKEN OVER I STILL PICK G OVER E 💯💯💯
All these videos… when are we going to see a pro on one? If they are so fast when are they going to take the podium?
There’s video of Ken roczen riding one. They are not on podiums yet because they are not even out or considered a production bike as of now. There are rules to racing and I’m not quite sure they are approved yet
@@motoblast3574 ok thanks I’ll check that video
@@motoblast3574 so those videos are old, is it the exact same bike still?
There’s also great videos from Josh Hill on his channel.
Any top level pro (who you’d recognise) would be under a contract that would definitely prohibit them from riding a Stark (or any other manufacturers bike) - we only got to see Kenny ride one because he was between contracts.
Pretty sure these aren’t allowed to compete.
I’m assuming they are allowed to run the “open” classes at local races.
Taking away shifting with a clutch is massively dumbing down motocross alone. I'm not totally opposed to EV but set them aside from gas powered, clutch racing. Most likely EV will fall into place with SX, arena cross, and arena hard enduro. MX would come along with so many changes that gas would be quickly obsolete. We don't need to do that. Really it doesn't make sense to run EV with gas. Keep them separate. Gas isn't going to beat these bikes once they are refined enough. Why should they take over completely?? The whole "better for the environment" excuse is a total crock of shit! It's totally crazy that even 2 strokes were attacked for that excuse. Cars shouldn't even ne yhe subject of environmental hazard either. All the massive industries that burn literally hundreds of millions of combined gallons a day should be where EV is first being a substitute.
Well said. I totally agree. Thank you for sharing
I’d be down to check one out when they make one the weight and power of a 350.
Why make a heavy bike with more HP? That’s dumb, I know it’s cool to impress the people who don’t know shit with big #s but those aren’t the guys who buy bikes and ride.
Lighter would be cool. You can turn this bikes power down to 10hp if you want though.
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A toy that's all it is . What's the point of racing something if it doesn't have a motor, with the sound, the vibration, what's the world coming to
I took off on my 701 and literally rode all day to some beautiful locations. You cannot do that on this turd 💩
Yes, that’s true. You can’t ride as far as an enduro bike with a larger capacity tank.
Turd? That's a little rough
It sucks man
It’s a unfair advantage some kids been training starts since they came out the womb how’s this any different? Fuck it I say cheat cheat cheat that’s what all the pros are doing too on all those PED’s they’re on 😂
Haha right!
You shouldn't be able to change HP during a race. That said, these bikes will change off road motorcycle racing forever. Too many advantages.
I agree totally