Honestly all they typically do is just lose their protectorates and Tripolitania. Other then that they kinda just chill out and maybe take some states from Egypt.
@@TobyYellsAtThings Been playing as Wallachia a lot and this seems to be the case for the most part. They have a back and forth with Egypt a lot but don't really push to do anything else. I've seen the complete the sick man of Europe only once though, which playing as Wallachia, I certainly don't mind. Was surprised at that one time though and it kinda killed that run for me cause I couldn't really wiggle out of the ottoman's grip at that point.
Best strat for the ottomans: 1- deport the leader of the land owners make sure he becomes an abolitionist and a jingoist takes his place. For this before firing the existing guy, you can hire a general with good fame who is a LO and a jingoist. its not hard to find 2- invite the exiled guy as an agitator, fire the intelligentsia from the goverment and reduce the wages for the bureaucrats to lowest 3- with the help of the jingoist LO guy pass the professional army and colony laws and wait for the agitator to abolisihing slavery via revolution 4- when all this done give leadership to the agitator and pass the law for abolishing serfdom then you have too little problems left
I dislike how the French always magically win despite being outmatched and outnumbered. I once had a Japan playthrough and attacked France with tanks, WW1 weapons, three times the number of troops with full medics and all the logistics while france still had 1850s gear. Yet France was decisively beating me like Britian versus the Tanzanians.
@@mathew4430 Remove the grain import, reduce the meat and grocery production, change all farm productions to fruits so they produce less grain and set up exports for grain.
Hello Tobias from Turkey. I have watched some of your videos and I want to give a criticism about your economic control. Your economic control is quite slow compared to other players and my way of playing as well. So maybe you can be more aggressive about construction sector to enhance faster. Your videos are enjoyable, though. Have a good time 😊
It really depends on the type of video I'm making as to whether or not I go hard into economy. This video was only meant to show the process of completing the Tanzimat Entries so I really just ignored the economy all together. My Anhalt video is a better representation of me actually putting effort into building the economy.
FIY: Ottomans has large part of their Army composed of Regiments from NOT accepted Cultures (Balkan = European Heritage, while Turks are Middle Eastern) So you will have hard time to enlist Ofifciers for this regiments. My advice is to disband your Balkan regiments as soon as you conquer Egypt and instead build 100 regiments in Lower Egypt (with plenty peasants ready to fill up ranks). But dont forget to issue 'Social Mobility' edict there, as Officers need to be literate to some degree. Bonus tip for defeating France every time any time: France has one little island near Madagascar, which is never defended (by troops or fleet) so you can easily naval invade them there, and just watch their warscore drop to -100 (if you take war reparations as primary war goal) 😉
I failed the suppress separatism tanzimat by annexing Tripolitania on the rationality that it would keep me from losing the land if I failed the reforms... so yeah that kinda backfired
Yes, you really do need to take persia because it is one of the only annexable country that wont throw you into dissaray cause of discrimination as persian is moddle eastern. Also i know both buffs for finishing the sick man of europe are both pretty bad but military is much better than claims that will just give you discrimination and infamy. I believe both transylvania give you 24 infamy even if its a claim
The sick man of Europe being completed gives you claims of Greece so you can take it without any big Infamy penalties, and Hedjaz will become your protectorate once you reduce Egypt to a puppet.
It is, I mentioned it at the end because I kinda forgot to do it in the beginning. I also wanted to avoid the infamy to make it less likely for Russia to get involved in my war against Egypt.
@@Notphenix yeah but unless you just want to starve the people for their 20$ in total you might as well just conquer them and have the crappiest "state" in the game
Actually that part comes next, Once you get the Sick man of Europe done you get claims on all of Greece. This way you're able to annex them for barely any infamy at all.
забавно как разваливаются все империи где прекращается институт дружбы народов, либо дается слишком много автономии разным народам, определенные национальности начинают давить, а другие восхвалять. (Те где одна национальность возвышалась - Османская Империя, Германия, Великобритания, Франция, Японская, Китайские империи, Монгольская)(Те где давали много автономии национальностям - Римская Империя, Советский Союз, США (в США дискриминация белых сейчас), Австрийская, Российская)
WTF, Austria and the Ottomans were historic rivals and Austria desperately wanted to push the Ottomans out of Europe and gain control of the Balkans, IMO you should never be able to ally Austria as the Ottomans.
Imagine not knowing how to actually play the game then uploading videos on it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
This comment is so funny cause like who gaf anyone can play any game and by extension they can record it lol
I remember my biggest gripe with the Ottomans was the fact that you could just have a civil war and you’d be okooly dokooly.
Yeah they patched that a while ago. Civil war flipping is still useful in situations but not nearly as much as it used to be.
@@TobyYellsAtThings also if you do that your no longer be of house osman
for being the sick man of Europe ive never seen AI ottomans do bad
Honestly all they typically do is just lose their protectorates and Tripolitania. Other then that they kinda just chill out and maybe take some states from Egypt.
@@TobyYellsAtThings Been playing as Wallachia a lot and this seems to be the case for the most part. They have a back and forth with Egypt a lot but don't really push to do anything else. I've seen the complete the sick man of Europe only once though, which playing as Wallachia, I certainly don't mind. Was surprised at that one time though and it kinda killed that run for me cause I couldn't really wiggle out of the ottoman's grip at that point.
@@TobyYellsAtThingsJust like the Wallachia guy I did Serbia, except the Ottomans joined the Austrian market💀
I always dont click the “sick man of europe: Great reform is needed” button until time runs out for 90 extra days
Though that would have the adverse effect to making the succession repression Tanzimat take 90 days more to complete wouldn't it?
Im pretty sure that you start with all the debuffs whether you press the button or not
@@TheLeperofJerusalem you only get the crap stuff like " bad beaucracy" after you click
@@TobyYellsAtThings yeah but the positives are really great like easily being gp most of the game and all the bonuses of being a gp
Best strat for the ottomans:
1- deport the leader of the land owners make sure he becomes an abolitionist and a jingoist takes his place. For this before firing the existing guy, you can hire a general with good fame who is a LO and a jingoist. its not hard to find
2- invite the exiled guy as an agitator, fire the intelligentsia from the goverment and reduce the wages for the bureaucrats to lowest
3- with the help of the jingoist LO guy pass the professional army and colony laws and wait for the agitator to abolisihing slavery via revolution
4- when all this done give leadership to the agitator and pass the law for abolishing serfdom then you have too little problems left
I dislike how the French always magically win despite being outmatched and outnumbered. I once had a Japan playthrough and attacked France with tanks, WW1 weapons, three times the number of troops with full medics and all the logistics while france still had 1850s gear. Yet France was decisively beating me like Britian versus the Tanzanians.
You really should use "Corn Laws" to fix some of your legislations in your playthroughs!
Honestly yeah probably, I kinda forgot it existed to be honest.
It’s impossible to get grain to be expensive enough for corn laws as ottomans, how do you do it?
@@mathew4430 Remove the grain import, reduce the meat and grocery production, change all farm productions to fruits so they produce less grain and set up exports for grain.
Wait these help? I have never seen it catchs up to %25, maybe %20 but not 25 @@K1_PC
@@Ottomars Yes, even if all those didn't work out, you can delete some farms to increase the price!
Rip to the mullet
You just got the Russia Treatment from Austria after being saved from the Hungarian revolution lmao
İ am simple man. İ see Ottoman and Victoria 3 side by side i click like button
Hello Tobias from Turkey. I have watched some of your videos and I want to give a criticism about your economic control. Your economic control is quite slow compared to other players and my way of playing as well. So maybe you can be more aggressive about construction sector to enhance faster. Your videos are enjoyable, though. Have a good time 😊
Yeah the economy is pretty bad
It really depends on the type of video I'm making as to whether or not I go hard into economy. This video was only meant to show the process of completing the Tanzimat Entries so I really just ignored the economy all together. My Anhalt video is a better representation of me actually putting effort into building the economy.
Always try getting Persia first as protectorate, way bigger market.
FIY: Ottomans has large part of their Army composed of Regiments from NOT accepted Cultures (Balkan = European Heritage, while Turks are Middle Eastern) So you will have hard time to enlist Ofifciers for this regiments. My advice is to disband your Balkan regiments as soon as you conquer Egypt and instead build 100 regiments in Lower Egypt (with plenty peasants ready to fill up ranks). But dont forget to issue 'Social Mobility' edict there, as Officers need to be literate to some degree.
Bonus tip for defeating France every time any time:
France has one little island near Madagascar, which is never defended (by troops or fleet) so you can easily naval invade them there, and just watch their warscore drop to -100 (if you take war reparations as primary war goal) 😉
30:04 Lincoln park reference, gotta appreciate it
I failed the suppress separatism tanzimat by annexing Tripolitania on the rationality that it would keep me from losing the land if I failed the reforms... so yeah that kinda backfired
i love your videos you show me how to play realy good this game
Ok this is cool but how much power do you have in Rise of Kingdoms?
My kingdom fell over...
Yes, you really do need to take persia because it is one of the only annexable country that wont throw you into dissaray cause of discrimination as persian is moddle eastern. Also i know both buffs for finishing the sick man of europe are both pretty bad but military is much better than claims that will just give you discrimination and infamy. I believe both transylvania give you 24 infamy even if its a claim
Tobi trash talking France and have a win rare was gold
Are you using any UI mods? Your mobilization tab looks different than mine
No mods, the only thing I may have different is one of the optional visual changes you get from paradox.
Maaan you where is Ulema and Intelegensia in the videooo :D
Also you forgot to take all the balkans to the vienna 😱
bro don’t tax fucking clothes and tobacco this is mostly affecting the lower strata and you’re hurting sol
Disliterate is a great new word.
Cool but what about Greece and Hedjaz?
The sick man of Europe being completed gives you claims of Greece so you can take it without any big Infamy penalties, and Hedjaz will become your protectorate once you reduce Egypt to a puppet.
Oh, and my wish came true!
you can protectorate persia right of the bat its far more useful for the egypt war than other small things
It is, I mentioned it at the end because I kinda forgot to do it in the beginning. I also wanted to avoid the infamy to make it less likely for Russia to get involved in my war against Egypt.
what mods to make occupied land that instead of the flag of the nation
It's an in game setting
Also never ever puppet in the arabian pennisula they almost always go into civil war and its annoying
They are also very small infamy states
@@Notphenix yeah but unless you just want to starve the people for their 20$ in total you might as well just conquer them and have the crappiest "state" in the game
Like this comment if you saw the green screen version
Wtf happened Deja Vu
I forgot to composite the green screen layer in the first one.
I think he did some fixes on the video and reuploaded it
Shame, Already watched the first video 😅😅😅😅
Had a slight oopsy in the first one
Ahh yes, the green screen
Sshhhh.... You didn't see anything
LOL you forgot the most important part of the Ottoman Empire... Greece
Actually that part comes next, Once you get the Sick man of Europe done you get claims on all of Greece. This way you're able to annex them for barely any infamy at all.
So it right
забавно как разваливаются все империи где прекращается институт дружбы народов, либо дается слишком много автономии разным народам, определенные национальности начинают давить, а другие восхвалять. (Те где одна национальность возвышалась - Османская Империя, Германия, Великобритания, Франция, Японская, Китайские империи, Монгольская)(Те где давали много автономии национальностям - Римская Империя, Советский Союз, США (в США дискриминация белых сейчас), Австрийская, Российская)
WTF, Austria and the Ottomans were historic rivals and Austria desperately wanted to push the Ottomans out of Europe and gain control of the Balkans, IMO you should never be able to ally Austria as the Ottomans.
That's IRL in the games you can end Rivalry easily
Honestly I agree with this, it makes no sense but I'll take whatever the game is willing to give me.
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