Coastal Raiding Economy is absolutely INSANE - Civ 6 Deity Norway Ep.1
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Set Up a Viking Pillaging Game: Get Carthage and Maori as enemy civs.
It's like the game knows.
Get Indonesia, because they have bonus to putting districts on coast.
@@presidenttogekiss635 honestly, Indonesia would be a BIG problem for this strat, as they can pretty easily snowball into having a massive navy if they get a couple good holy sites.
@@harjutapa and their Jongs. Omg. Their Jong come like attack of titans lol. They filled the whole map
The game realized Potato usually played on Deity and Deity means "use my civilization to get harder challenges".
Also every Stellaris game ever.
"Technically speaking I'm playing the barbarians this game, because my strategy is not necessarily to win, but to ruin everyone else's day."
Irishman becomes fanatic leader of Viking raiders. How the turntables.
Grace O'Malley reborn
Dublin was founded by Vikings in the 9th century.
He only thinks he is "Irish", they are all ex Vikings :-)
@@PMMagro Ex viking? Vikings is not a people.
@@emrikaas its a profession so ex still applies, also sorry for responding to something months old almost a year infact.
I recently graduated and bought civ 6 to play with my former history teacher and I wanna thank you for teaching me and many more about this game. Sincerely your fan, Noah.
Wanna play?
r/NoahGetTheBoat
@@deds326 Yo I can play
my game is cracked
soooo
i hope yall play together and have fun :)
@@y.i5445 you didn't pick it up for free on epic?
Hands up if your internal monologue now goes very Irish when playing Civ.
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Hehe not to that level, but when I am settling a city now I automatically think "what would potato do?"
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@@kevinc62
Me too, hes so knowledgeable in all this, makes me feel like an idiotic noob.
Never, it is the Guiness talking
Total pillaged this episode:
1 Builder
319 Faith
58 Culture
It’s about time you try to actually play as Norway and realize the power that Harald now holds
@Celtic Phoenix except it is? Like, this video is just the beginning of a steamroll.
Yes, it's map dependent, but it's still a powerful civ.
@@harjutapa except it isn't? Its super situational and will rarely work
@@dashnoop4537 You should try it yourself. It's very strong, you can win science victories with 0 campuses without much difficulty (Free Inquiry golden age is also OP for naval based civs). It's terrible on certain maps and completely OP on others. Also, very strong on faster game speeds and weaker on slower ones. Online speed nerfs land units to a large extent because movement doesn't scale so the extra movement of Harald's ships help a ton. When the pillage mechanics worked for every civ, the dominant strategy in the game was to have a city with low loyalty flip to free, pillage the improvements, conquer them back, fix the improvements, let them fall free and continue the cycle. Harald is the only one who can still do that, and even without exploiting stuff like this, you can easily win just via pillaging, since it scales to the era. It's not remotely situational, except that you need a map that has enough coastal cities.
@@dashnoop4537 all it depends on is the map type.
Would Harald do well on Pangaea? Of course not. But no one is saying he would.
You plunder everything you can find on the coast (on island plates or archipelago, there will be plenty), then roll all the faith into a Monumentality golden age and spam settlers and builders.
No one is saying Norway is suddenly an S Tier civ, but they're definitely no longer the trash tier they used to be.
I personally prefer playing naval/sea based civs (Gitarja is my favorite civ), and Harald (while not able to keep up with a properly built Gitarja) is definitely high tier on water maps.
@Celtic Phoenix It really is good. It is.
Maybe not if you spawn in the middle of pangea, but even on continents you tend to get AIs and city states you can easily declare war on and then keep raiding their tiles with your almost free to build longships for extra yields
If norway has enough coastal tiles to pillage it is the strongest civ in the game. Coastal raiding is that powerful
I love seeing a fellow potato looting & pillaging the world. So empowering.
Pillaging synergizes with monumentality golden ages first, and then this second-tier govt plaza building comes along and you just buy your land units with it. Started a Norway game a few days ago after seeing your recommendation and it's been really cool. Thanks!
I think Harald should go for Monumentality Golden Age into Free Inquiry (or vice versa, depending on the timing of the Harbors). Use the faith pillage to get settlers in play, then have them build harbors and spam ships. Free Inquiry then sets up a +3-4 science per city boost, you outtech everyone and just crush them. It's really beautiful on naval maps. On multiplayer, I think you'd have to do Free Inquiry first (and this whole plan is generally weaker when opponents have functioning navies to protect themselves).
have a city in the middle of your territory, give it to ai, city revolts, pillage mines, fix city with 1charge builders, repeat
+ you earn a lot of gold for selling the city :)
"Perfectly Balanced"
Do I smell Yorkshire Tea?
And here I thought "great, another Civ 6 campaign to binge" only to find out this was uploaded to day and now I have to wait like a peasant.
Big fan of this video Potato - you're just going that tiny bit slower and explaining a few more of your thought processes which is so helpful.
I love this, but please:
Æ is similar to the a in sand.
Ø is similar to the u in rum.
Å is similar to the o in long.
Thank you and have a nice day :)
Not gonna lie, as a non English native, having those small diferences would make it much easier to pronounce english.
@@presidenttogekiss635 English really should be using the icelandic alphabet
@@presidenttogekiss635 As another non-native English speaker, I agree wholeheartedly.
or pronounce it in Danish. There, everything is similar to ghghgffffff
@Steve Murdock Same
Finally a new playthrough!
"Your seas are unprotected, my friend. Too easy to raid."
Might add some ponies into the mix in the future as they're good pillagers too
Watch someone maintain a -13 loyalty city was like watching Frodo walking into Mordor.
I usually have to balance -20s because of wars.
LMAO I was playing CIV 6 for first time, took India (because home country) under Chandragupta. My neighborhood was contested with Nader Shah on Left and Kublai Khan on Right and Indonesia on South East.
I had this weird idea of conquering Australia as Astralaya (word originating from an Indian politician claiming Australia was used by Ancient Indians to store nuclear weapons) and using it to actually store nuclear weapons for my empire.
Sailed the whole army, fought barbarian infested lands and settled in a very wrong location (East Australia) only to have my settlement turn on me because it was insanely far and city states and Australian civilization nearby.
My army got whittled down fighting barbarians, to an extent that there was a single trebuchet retreating. Somehow it managed to capture a barbarian settler and a builder, and I continued settling in Western Australia.
And yes, Operation Astralaya was a success
Having tried this a couple times now i must add that a higher difficulty helps this tactic a lot. On King the AI just doesnt develop enough coast for it to be viable.
I really like this video, being from the west Norway i have a natural love for pillaging coast line.
I think farms (and fishing boats) are worth pillaging not so much because you need the healing, but because it denies them food.
The Maori, aka Giant Norwegian Piñata
Rip Dido and Maori, they're doomed from the start.
So a question on how you're building Tromso: Would building the city out as an Industrial Zone hub have been worth it? If you settled the horses, you could have had a +6 Industrial Zone (Aqueduct to the west mountain for +2, adjacent to 2 quarries and a horse for +3, and the city+aqueduct adjacency for another +1) and a prime location to build the Venetian Arsenal at that. Obviously the production would have come a bit later into the game than wanted, but you would be churning out mid/late game naval units at an insane rate, which sounds like something Norway would appreciate more than any other civ.
I love it when english-speakers try to say norwegian words
Agreed, especially because I kinda understand Norwegian.
The same can be said with Maori
What would you enjoy more? Norwegian words in North American English or a more UK version?
collin grant A more UK version. It’s closer to home.
@@MDL.720 lived in Hawaii for two years and this bothered me immensely
"we come from the land of the volcano, led by a man called potato"
Hey man I just got Civ 6 as my first ever Civ game about 3 weeks ago and today I finally won my first deity game as the Maya thanks to a lot of things i learned from you. Especialy regarding district placement and dealing with the A.I lead and early aggression. I really love this game and your channel made me get better so fast its actually crazy. You definetly have a new sub in me keep up the good work and greatings from Germany
So, I was playing around with Norway on Marathon speed. I get Sinbad using the Amani trick and discovered something funny: Sinbad, when you are playing Norway, can Coastal Raid tribal villages.
Potato, don't forget about the light cavalry. I just had a domination game on deity, with a few cavalry armies, that had the depredation promotion and government card for 50% extra yields from pillaging, running around. I was tripple pillaging campuses, industrial zones, commercial hubs, theater squares for over 1200 in a single turn. It was hilarious. With Norway it will be even more op.
I was literally just playing Norway today, but I got bored too quickly. Glad I can watch you do it better than me while I be lazy instead.
Glad you're doing a Norway game. Pillage economy is super fun, and people wrongly think Harald is still weak. On online speed and a map that isn't Pangaea, he's a top leader I think. I do think it is absolutely vital to get that first golden age though for monumentality into free inquiry.
Wow, this belongs in an epic. Imagine being Egypt trembling as they watch a floating horde sail across from the volcanic, windswept lands of the barbarians xD.
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS SINCE DAY ONE!!! I'm not much of a gamer, so I thought I must be the crazy one, but I tried the Norse first when I got the game circa Gathering Storm and I have always slayed it with not just the productivity of of raids, but how it takes away from your enemy's productivity
I have been playing Norway recently they are my new fav civ
Wow! Someone's been working hard! You clearly did a few trial runs to create this video. It's probably the best thing about the game. Many of the unique units are specific to a particular style of play. I personally thought that you put the Hoplite too low, coupled with the cultural benefits, I find the game too easy when playing with Gorgo. But it all depends on your style of play, one of the reasons that 6 is the best in the series.
Also the map choice is important. I love playing small islands (which is a bit cheaty because you don't get smashed from 3 AI and barbs at the same time and it gives you the chance to early war and then peacefully settle at least 2 islands) but you seem to prefer Pangaea and continents. It would be great to see you playing more varied maps.
I love that Skedsmo is the 5th "city." Nowadays it's a small suburb outside a town on the outskirts of Oslo.
By the way(assuming you didn't already know this), Norwegian ships can enter ocean tiles with shipbuilding, so you can send your longships out to the seas earlier than most other civs.
I am currently trying this myself and its a lot of fun. Not the best strategy of course but fun...
But since you have so many ships at one point, turns take ages and it becomes repetitive pretty fast.
I am exited for how you deal with this strategy :)
Viking Longships are no match for the Panzerkampfwagen VI
Ive been waiting for that for a week now, keep up with the good work maam
This has been a great video - I've been a subscriber for a few months now off the back of the yogs, watching your tier and update videos, and I watched your armchair admirals stream the other day. But this video I think has hooked me into your unique and highly intuitive style of explaining strategy & gameplay!
Hell yes, been waiting for this to drop since he mentioned it days ago
The Vikings to the Barbarians: "You rack disciprine"
Barbarians: "Nah uh, we don't rack disciprine"
i was wondering when you were going to do this civ its my favorite to play also why i always join island maps lmao
4:30 That was literally the Vikings’s plan.
Norway is one of my fav civs to play now. Seeing your coast resources have high yields is very satisfying imo.
I am so damn hyped for this play through. Yesterday i just started a game with norway and it was so much fun :)
Thank you 4 the great content.
I used to think that the Ottoman Naval Unit was bad, because it is weak and does not match up well with the rest of its abiltiies, but it's actually AMAZING, because it just gets SO much from raiding at no cost. It literally can pay its own price in gold in one or two turns.
As somebody who is of Scandinavian blood I was excited to play as Norway yet I was underwhelmed with them on my first game using them. However, this video is an eye opener! I was TRYING to make good use of the longships yet like you, I initially failed to see the value in them.
I can't wait to try this Civ again after watching your video. Thank you, friend.
More of this potato, by far the most unique playthrough, hillarios and fun to watch.
Watched this series and loved it, tried it out for myself on Marathon and I was pillaging mines for over a 1000 gold in turn 50 when my income was only 7 gold per turn, would love to see Potato try it on Marathon and speed run the game
i have been trying to play norway (me a noob) recently and i just fully invest into water tiles, had fight every coastal barbs because noone else would and give up valuable land to other civs and get strangled both on land and on water. I find your strategy of waiting to produce ships till some time much better.
Costal raiding can be devastating to your opponents and can balance out the advantages the AI automatically gets from the difficulty settings. Especially if you hit buildings that require time to be repaired in the city center. It makes it so the opponent has to stop production elsewhere to fix the buildings. Plus if you hit key developed tiles you can stop production of certain military units altogether. Plus you can nullify any trades that opponent has with mined goods. On top of all that you also end up with what is essentially a blockade of the state under attack. Troops of their allies can't get ashore and traders can get in or out. Norway can be absolutely broken in certain scenarios.
Great to see you playing with the yogscast! Spiff had been talking positive a lot about you during streams, so I’m happy you got inviyrbfjsbnskjchhdjjikked!
6:11 "A couple of turds to recover"
Love the edited gameplay, it must be a lot of work so thank you
Have been enjoying your videos but noticing how land focused your typical play style is, which is actually really helpful to me since I've favored the water since Civ 5. But it's nice to see you venturing into oceanic strategies some too.
Always fun content! I can't seem to get a Harald pillage economy working with horsemen, but keep trying. A good tip on learning to pronounce "Maori" correctly - Say the word "moldy". Now keep the same sound, but shift the "d" to an softly rolled "r", sort of like "Mo-rli", rather than "Maa-ray".
That first golden age dedication getting wasted was kinda painful to watch, because I did something similar in my first game, and since I rarely go for a religion.
Ayyyyyyyy! I’ve been wondering how to play as the vikings and look at this!
Edit: spelling fixes
Don't forget that city-state tier list! And of course nice video, I really liked it!
Ugh thank you. I needed a new Let's Play from you to watch.
I tried your strategy with Harald, and lucked into a really fun seed, perfect for Temple of Artemis, but also allowed me to build (at Deity Level) Hanging Gardens, Pyramids, the Oracle, Terracotta Army, before transitioning to a massive fleet that raided the world. Seed: -1187536868 -1187536867 (Map size: Large) (Start Positions: Legendary) (Sea Level: High)
This was the most fun seed I have ever played.
Turns out the civ entirely focused on naval combat is pretty decent on an island map
I love Norway, but now there’s finally a strategy that makes them competitive!
When you play this leader Wiking-longboats are your settlers. First you look for coastal cities, then you plunder their shores and haven, and than you take their city since your boats have insane combat stats against these early cities and s8nce they don't have walls yet you can attack their lifepoints directly.
YAYYYYY FINALLY A NEW VIDEO ON CIV 6😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎 Seriously tho your videos make my day and even tho its 10 in UK it's made my night🤣 and finally a new lp.
Did he remember to put the pillaging card in?
no
@@PotatoMcWhiskey Well that's a shame, would have gotten so much more out of your raids, but ofc you already know that duh.
@@lelouchvibritannia3613 Had he even unlocked it?
@@mrmildman2370 I assume so, would be weird if he had not at that point of the game.
PotatoMcWhiskey O O F
I always play Random Pangea, so when I get Norway I just instantly reset lol. But this way of playing looks like loads of fun, so I'm definitely going to try this out!
Hell Yeah! I love your lets plays and naval battles!
I love it! I’m going to have to give Norway a try. Nothing like being a big pain in the ass for all the other Civs. Looking forward to the next episode!
Started a Huge Viking map on marathon last week and this video came in handy
I've always wanted to use Norway, you finally convinced me. For Valhalla!
Soothersayers yeeting themselves into volcanoes, builders throwing themselves into the sea. This game is wild.
Australians: Coast!
Norwegians ready to raid: Coast!
I just started a game as Norway the other day and what should appear in my You-tube recs than this one of your videos! I gotta say that I was enjoying the coastal raiding feature, using it to clear a whole lot of goody huts.
Now I'll have to work on building a few more units and trying to raid the AI a bit more.
I used to like ONLY these cutted out versions of the games, until I began to watch the full streams. Now I wish this one was one of the longer versions :(
I have been clicking and only watching the "heyyyyy spuddies" segments on your videos and this has been the best one so far. No contest. Ez clap. Game looks cool. Might get it if it goes on sale.
I've never been more upset to have a video end. Can't wait to see how this turns out!
God i love civ. It's constantly becoming more complex to me., as I get more into the game. Its been a bit since I watched tato, but in the early stages of this vid, He's talking about things that I only recently started to understand.
- Recognizing and dealing with bad pop growth early
- Prioritizing food early, even if the AI defaults to a production tile, because an extra citizen earlier is multiplicative.
- seeing turns ahead on the tech/civic timeline, and planning your progression to your civ's strengths.
- How big the early envoy to a City- State is
- settling in a bad loyalty tile isn't a concern if you know how loyalty works, and are confident about what effects loyalty, when you'll get it, and how fast your city grows.
- Getting a pantheon is important, maybe cuz you wanna religion. Maybe just to get an early bonus.
Just saying, The game is so deep. Ive played civ 6 for 500 hours and im still learning the game. Its so much more complex than it appears.
Mmmmm, welcome to the church of Norway. They do need a naval type map. But they are really good.
Love playing as Norway! Usually just play in Prince difficulty, but I started my first Deity game as them yesterday and it's going really well.
28:11 “I have like 300 faith, I can buy great people if I wanted to” 🤦🏾♂️ yeah okay potato
"a couple of turds"
~Potato 2020
“Just to put that in perspective...”
-potato every 3 minutes in this series
Oh my! Been waiting for your vid for weeks now! Gonna enjoy this series!
Potato: They will allow us to build bateys.
My brain: Ahoy batey.
Yesssss. My fastest victory was with Harald.
Go get me a fucking burrito
He really turns into a pirate at 17:55
Maori or Carthage finds a city
BARBARY CORSAIR WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION
New series POGGERS
I tried this and I have to admit most fun with in a long time
You need to redo this playthrough with Heroes and Secret Societies. Sinbad is just perfect for this game, and when I did a game as the Hermetic Order, once things started ramping up, No other civ got a great person, so the ley lines just got insanely good.
Honestly, secret society isn't the important part, but Sinbad is just so good.
I want to add my thoughts to the beginning, where you say to not go straight to longships. I once tried this strategy, but built my longships too early and my neighbors had no infrastructure to pillage. So I definitely agree that you should build up your own power base and let other civs build their costal infrastructure.
My favorite civ let's go!
1:36 when you hoverd over the difficulty it said settler.
Playing as a barbarian sounds really interesting
I've been playing as Norway for a few months now. I randomly played them one day and it's been hard to go back. Rome used to be my old go to, but Im a pretty casual civ player and don't go for cheeser strats or anything. I usually don't even finish the game lmao.
Gorgo (Greece) and Frederick (Germany) are fun. Gorgo gets a shed load of culture from violence and the Hoplites are fantastic in the early game (although the upgrades are weak) and Frederick is great for the absolute opposite game play - using infrastructure and b-lining to apprenticeship.
I will go straight for your monument ;) keep up the great work my dude!
Nobody seems to acknowledge the additional adjacency bonus from woods for holy sites once you built that unique church. That would get a holy site with 2 mountains and 2 woods from +3 to +5. Double that with writing and use work ethic and you won the game
If one does get a religion as Norway, running Crusade and Cross-Cultural Dialogue is actually a pretty good combination. Despite seeming like the two tenants are opposing each other, getting extra science and combat strength towards cities you only plan on pillaging and not claiming as your own goes a long way in keeping Berserkers competitive, and it synergizes pretty well with the faith from stave churches/holy sites.
Dang, Norway has always been my favorite country to play as. I always do really good as them.
Isn't this the guy who's glad he built the venetian arsenal?