Death Battle Trunks vs Silver Reaction | Dragon Ball Heroes vs Archie Sonic

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  • @HeadBodyMasterPersonal
    @HeadBodyMasterPersonal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +82

    You have to remember that the determining factor for Death Battle matchups is the similarities between the characters, not necessarily how close they are in power. Also, the reason they used these versions of Trunks and Silver is because if they had used the main versions, it would've been an obvious stomp in Trunks' favor. Dragon Ball Heroes Trunks and Archie Comic Silver are their most powerful versions and, comparatively speaking, closer in power.
    I'd love to see you react to the live-action battles, Nightwing Vs. Daredevil and Winter Soldier Vs. Red Hood

    • @RedKing12000
      @RedKing12000 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well said.

    • @kinjorex101
      @kinjorex101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I think they mentioned in a commentary that canon Silver is kind of a nothing-burger of a character, whereas the Archie Comics version really fleshed him out more, and gave a lot more interesting things to analyze. Plus it was an excuse to bring in Xenoverse into the show, which they've apparently been wanting to for a while. So like, *multiple* birds with one stone lmao

  • @cosmicblob8799
    @cosmicblob8799 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    It happened. It finally happened. I've spent almost a year requesting this specific video every time a new death battle reaction comes out. And It's finally happened. Silver Vs Trunks. This is a momentous occasion. Truly, a fight night friday to remember.

    • @ifapollovisitedtajmahal5273
      @ifapollovisitedtajmahal5273 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      And so it was foretold

    • @split2961
      @split2961 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You got yours, I’m still waiting on Goku Black vs Reverse Flash lol

    • @antoniomadison7885
      @antoniomadison7885 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@split2961They did that one.

    • @chrismanning2888
      @chrismanning2888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They did that fight 2 weeks ago​@@split2961

    • @chrismanning2888
      @chrismanning2888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@split2961they already did that one 2 weeks ago

  • @ajn_rules_5074
    @ajn_rules_5074 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    To add more recent information about the Death Battle Kickstarter, in a recent live stream of Cast debating and in the comments of the Kickstarter, they mention that they're hoping to release new episodes starting in October of this year. The plan is to release two episodes during October and 1 new episode every month onwards. Also, since you mentioned it, for the moment, they plan to drop the seasonal format and release 1 new Death Battle Episode every month (Maybe with the exception of January due to Holidays and such). So basically, entering a new era of Death Battle where it's year-round, and as of this moment, closing in on 700K, WE ARE SO BACK!!!

  • @dogzilla0578
    @dogzilla0578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    Always remember that they set up the match ups FIRST, THEN determine the winner through researching both characters.
    Sometimes even THEY don't now how much of a stomp it's going to be until the video is completed, like with SpongeBob vs Aquaman.
    They didn't know how strong SpongeBob was until it was too late and they were too far along that they had to create the episode.

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes they do. They deliberately nerf and wank characters as well

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I know there was one early on where they did change the matchup because their research showed a character to be far, FAR more powerful than they had initially believed. Kirby was originally slated to fight Ditto from Pokémon but they realized that Kirby is just too goddamn powerful for it. I say this as a Pokémon fan but I'm pretty sure Kirby could body like 99% of the roster. If the Creation Trio teamed up on him they might stand a chance but individually they'd get washed.
      Though it's funny that the pokémon that's most LIKE a Kirby boss is fairly low power, overall. Pecharunt would fit right in in Dreamland.

    • @ivanteoh930
      @ivanteoh930 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not true a lot times they know how much it is stomp but hey you knows views

    • @dogzilla0578
      @dogzilla0578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​​​@@ivanteoh930
      SPOILER FOR DND
      Not really. A good majority of the time, they are surprised by the winner. They said on their Death Battle cast that they thought Ben would beat Hal, Black Adam would beat Apocalypse, and Lobo would beat Ghost Rider, Archie Sonic would beat Wally and that's only a few I could name.
      They also felt Miles Morales, Genos, Grey Venom might be the likely loser, but they still thought they had a good chance until they dug deeper in their opponents. Again, just to name a few.
      There's definitely been instances where they have a solid general idea of who would win, but they don't know exactly how much a stomp it will be or that the verdict will go the other way until the episodes are done.
      The only ones I can really think they knew was going to be a stomp right off the top of my head was Omniman vs Homelander.
      And yeah, they do pick match ups that fans demand more and might get the most views, but that doesn't always guarantee they know it's an automatic stomp.

    • @dogzilla0578
      @dogzilla0578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@BJGvideosHehe, yeah, I remember that. I'm so glad we got the fight we got. Still one of their best episodes.
      Yeah, mostly everyone except the legendaries would stand a chance. Arceus could alone beat him, as I don't think Kirby has ever fought a non-coporal being before, has he?

  • @celestialecho9817
    @celestialecho9817 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    So happy they acknowledged the spawn crossover (even if it's literally for one page of a single comic)

  • @CyberDalek17
    @CyberDalek17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I love the Track to this, Hedge of Tomorrow is such a banger. And Trunks here was voiced by DBZA Trunks KaiserNeko(Scott Frerichs), and Silver, well his voice actor is listed as "Esu Onsti" or "It's No Use" Silver's meme quote backwards, so it's an alias and DB only ever does that when it's usually an Official VA to avoid legal issues when crediting, granted it's speculation but heavily implied to be and Official VA of Silver's

    • @NinjaKingAce
      @NinjaKingAce 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Weird that they would go with an alias. I've seen some of Sonic's VAs, both former and current, help with fan projects under their real names. I don't think Sega cares

    • @CyberDalek17
      @CyberDalek17 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@NinjaKingAce I guess it depends, I mean this isn't the first occasion, we've had an alleged voice actor for Sigma voice the character in Ultron vs Sigma use an Alias but on the flip side we have Dante Basco himself voicing Zuko fully credited in his video. At the end of the day we can just assume that it may be due to reasons people don't want to mess with and leave it at that

  • @reizophoenix8275
    @reizophoenix8275 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Archie versions of Sonic Characters are seriously overpowered. It would literally took Sonic less than a second to finish level in a video game.

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Base game sonic is basically as strong as archie now

    • @RaijinRift
      @RaijinRift 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@reggielacey2235 strength wise maybe cause he legit just beat "death" being the end, but the hax archie has and speed doesnt compare yet

    • @RaijinRift
      @RaijinRift 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@reggielacey2235 or maybe not even the durability of base form sonic specifically

    • @MatthewJamesKalasky
      @MatthewJamesKalasky 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't that version of Sonic run through like, a thousand universes a second or something?

  • @jtom8326
    @jtom8326 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    In honor of your Playstation AllStars Reaction you should watch the Ratchet and Clank VS Jak and Daxter Death Battle

    • @cosmicblob8799
      @cosmicblob8799 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YES. That's my absolute favorite death battle.

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    1. The Xenoverse timeline REALLY makes you realise why Beerus and Whis were so against time travel. Nobody wants to get stuck holding the metaphorical ball by creating the timeline that causes Armageddon lol
    2. The matchups are made based on similarities between characters. Its only AFTERWARDS that they realise whether its a stomp or not.

  • @NinjaKingAce
    @NinjaKingAce 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One neat thing about this Death Battle is that there a not-so-subtle Dragon Ball GT reference. When Trunks uses cards to summon people, he gets GT Kid Goku, GT Pan, (and also Oolong randomly)
    Goku, Pan, and Trunks are the 3 main characters of GT's first arc, so even though that was a different Trunks, it was still a cool easter egg

  • @Auron1Roxas2
    @Auron1Roxas2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A lot of fights do seem unfair in these death battles but a lot of that is due to them doing battles people have debated for years or have requested.

  • @chudeuzoka4653
    @chudeuzoka4653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Hey guys when you’re requesting Death Battle reactions or referencing other Death Battles, please try not to spoil them for Ken and Bethany.

  • @wingedbluj1674
    @wingedbluj1674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trunks is voiced by Kiserneko, who voiced Trunks in DBZA. And Silver is voiced by "Esu Onsti", which is just a pseudonym used by Bryce Pappenbrook (may have misspelled) who is the official VA for Silver.
    The song is called "Hedge of Tomorrow", composed by our good friend, Brandon Yates, and features the same guy who sang in "God's Hand", the song from Dimitri vs Guts.

  • @stef96ify
    @stef96ify 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:55 I see 2 references in that moment:
    1. Dragon Ball Z Abridged's catchphrase "Oh, crapbaskets"
    2. The time in Sonic Adventure 2 and in Sonic X anime where the Moon is shot and heavily damaged by Eggman and the Eclipse Cannon

  • @Rubyshedinja33
    @Rubyshedinja33 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BTW, silvers va here is the same one from his games

  • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
    @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Hearing "It's no use." Brings the *Sonic 06 PTSD*

    • @Ghost_R4cc00n
      @Ghost_R4cc00n 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh I know that feeling 😐

    • @destroyerblackdragon
      @destroyerblackdragon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You know what they say the more the merrier.

    • @kinjorex101
      @kinjorex101 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I will say, I'm glad they made that line, which for years had been a cudgel against Silver, into a genuinely badass delivery

    • @ToxicVex267
      @ToxicVex267 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TAKE THIS!!!😭

  • @PKGamingOmega
    @PKGamingOmega 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think they chose this match up because Silver was straight up based on Trunks when he was created. They're both time traveling youths trying to change the past to save their destroyed future, or at least find the answer to save their future. If this was the main canon Trunks vs video game Silver, we'd have the opposite problem though, where Trunks would destroy Silver. Choosing Heroes Trunks and Archie Silver made the fight a bit more even.

  • @t-rexcellentreviews1663
    @t-rexcellentreviews1663 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great reaction you guys, I love your channel and your puppy is so adorable.

  • @Mad_Sea_Dog
    @Mad_Sea_Dog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This Death Battle has my favorite fight music. great video!

  • @lovingfool2060
    @lovingfool2060 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    so in response to the "archie universe seems like a unfair matchup", Id like to point out that dragonball's xenoverse is basically the same equilvent to it, where many characters are pushed to their strongest

  • @thescrublord31
    @thescrublord31 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I immediately knew you guys were gonna watch this after Shadow vs Ryuko. Predictability at it's finest!

  • @TheAshenTarnishedHunter
    @TheAshenTarnishedHunter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the Only thing I am disappointed by for this fight is how quiet the music is, because Hedge of Tomorrow is just a stunning piece, although it seems louder than it used to be as of late which is nice.

  • @yuuhyakuya3863
    @yuuhyakuya3863 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Well, it's not entirely unfair. People wanted this matchup forever and if they used regular Trunks against game Silver. Trunks absolutely stomped Silver. So the fairest way to do this battle was to put them at their strongest versions. And it just so happens that Archie's Silver is stronger than Heroes Trunks.

  • @MarkITEXE
    @MarkITEXE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Heeeeey, Sliver Vs Trucks, Dragon Ball Vs Sonic the Hedgehog LETS GO!!!
    Goku vs Sonic WHEN!!!

  • @josephholt4736
    @josephholt4736 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The DEATH BATTLE Kickstarter ends tomorrow and here are all of the episodes we'll be getting this season (not including *Gru vs Megamind* because we won't be able to reach $800K by tomorrow):
    • Bardock vs Omni-Man
    (Dragon Ball vs Invincible)
    • Bowser vs Eggman
    (Super Mario Bros. vs Sonic the Hedgehog)
    - Bonus Episode
    • Light Yagami vs Columbo
    (Death Note vs Columbo)
    • Kratos vs Asura
    (God of War vs Asura's Wrath)
    ○ A Rematch of our choice
    • Mahito vs Shigaraki
    (Jujitsu Kaisen vs My Hero Academia)
    • Aang vs Traveler
    (Avatar vs Genshin Impact)
    - 200th Episode
    • Ash vs Yugi
    (Pokémon vs Yu-Gi-Oh)
    • Simon the Digger vs Kyle Rayner
    (Gurren Lagann vs DC's Green Lantern)
    • Ruby vs Maka
    (RWBY vs Soul Eater)
    • Hulk vs Godzilla
    (Marvel Comics vs Toho Studios)
    ○ 13 Additional Episodes
    • Wile E. Coyote vs Tom
    (Looney Tunes vs Tom & Jerry)

  • @HippoKingDee
    @HippoKingDee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Two things, first death battle won’t being doing seasons anymore, second the first episode will be October 6th

  • @cosmicblob8799
    @cosmicblob8799 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He said the thing, he said Crapbaskets!

  • @chudeuzoka4653
    @chudeuzoka4653 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Knowing how big of a fan Bethany is of the Ninja Turtles, I’d recommend the TMNT Battle Royale. It’s from Season 1, but it’s one of the first Death Battles I ever watched. The original video was removed from TH-cam, but they’re reuploads on TH-cam.
    Also Bowser vs Ganon and Eggman vs Wily because Bowser and Eggman are returning for the upcoming season.
    But I imagine you’ll react to all of them eventually.

  • @jackwest7775
    @jackwest7775 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be fair, a lot of match ups are picked out by the fans. Where at face value it seems more even until their research team digs into it.

  • @helper_games
    @helper_games 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fun fact, trunks is an actual yugioh card, i don't remember the cards name, but he is one

  • @impoweredpotato8629
    @impoweredpotato8629 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i know it wouldnt change the outcome but it always pissed me off that trunks knows silver and redirect his Ki and still decides to infuse ki into the key sword.

    • @malikmcfarlane6060
      @malikmcfarlane6060 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even worse all db characters can you use telekinesis via ki so trunks could simpy stop the ki sword with his mind.

    • @marcorodriguez8792
      @marcorodriguez8792 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      While the dbz characters can use telekinesis with ki, it's pretty clear their telekinesis doesn't measure up to Silver's

  • @franklinreed7614
    @franklinreed7614 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's because a lot of fans seem to think that Dragon Ball just destroys the Sonic universe, not realizing that sonic characters are pretty busted. Even in the games things get pretty crazy, like how Sonic Shadow and Silver fought a time god that existed between all infinite points in the past present and future. The other reason being that the creators of Sonic 06 themselves stated that Silvers backstory when he was first created, was very much inspired by Trunks' story (which fun fact was actually inspired by Terminator). So that's why The characters were put against each other.

  • @brandonwong8614
    @brandonwong8614 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "It's a Keyblade not a Key sword" yeah tell that to Xehanort in Kingdom Hearts 3

  • @npcwithagun
    @npcwithagun 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Edit: King kai literally said Goku forced his way into the future😂 to beat hits time skip

  • @v.emiltheii-nd.8094
    @v.emiltheii-nd.8094 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's time to fight.

  • @DjZeroGalactica
    @DjZeroGalactica 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This fight was insane 0-0

  • @cybersonic8472
    @cybersonic8472 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sometimes the characters don't match up in power but Silver is based on Trunks and has a very similar backstory

  • @outcast5732
    @outcast5732 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Silvers first appearance was in Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 (or street name Sonic 06) just letting you know!

  • @antoniomadison7885
    @antoniomadison7885 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another one from my list!

  • @YungandRekless545
    @YungandRekless545 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Death Battle *really* likes to go off on the Sonic franchise, like it's the weirdest series that they've seen on this show 🤨

  • @axels3188
    @axels3188 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was a good reaction also they went with Xeno Trunks and Archie Silver because of a huge backlash from Vegeta vs Shadow being too Onesided on Vegeta so MU Trunks and Games Silver would’ve been the same so they went with these Version who are nearly the Same Power levels and next do a reaction to either Android 18 vs Captain Marvel or Donkey Kong vs knuckles.

  • @Ichy3
    @Ichy3 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well they did use dbz abridged Trunk's voice so might as well have him say crap baskets

  • @deathwish-fs1ib
    @deathwish-fs1ib 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a lot of the time, unless folk are really familiar with characters, they're not going to realise how one sided a match up is until they start doing the research. There's likely thousands of characters out there who on the surface have a lot of similarities to each other (case and point Trunks and Silver: both time travellers, both have super forms, one has chi the other telekinesis) but once you get into the nitty gritty of things you realise that the scale of things on one side far outweighs the other.
    Honestly its probably harder to find two characters that are similar to each other in concept and power scaling outside of typical action heroes. But I will say my favourite part of Death Battle isn't always the fight but finding out about all the wee facts regarding the characters, especially if its a character I thought I know a lot about.
    Its actually led me to the realisation that while anime and manga has a reputation for being ridiculously over the top the majority of series are actually a lot more down to earth than western comics like DC and Marvel.

    • @YayaAniNbek
      @YayaAniNbek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah 😂 DC and marvel have characters that are omnipotent+++ or some shit.

  • @Steg1118
    @Steg1118 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love the sonic and dragonball stuff!! :D

  • @wilsonbetz145
    @wilsonbetz145 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please react to Android 18 vs Captain Marvel in the future.

  • @soulbade-x9709
    @soulbade-x9709 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ken: The Great Sayaiman is badass!
    Me: Well that puts you in the minority.

    • @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2
      @DefinitelyNotDefinitive2  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And I’m okay with that 😇🤗

    • @soulbade-x9709
      @soulbade-x9709 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 I respect you stand by your opinion on what you like even if others may not like it as much. 👍

  • @krewl1252
    @krewl1252 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:05 some say kai but the meaning is the same
    11:07 eating time is to9o much ken but sonic getting kissed by a human beth and ken stone face

  • @jamesdeadlocked6664
    @jamesdeadlocked6664 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope u react to Beerus vs Galaxia and Frieza vs Megatron

  • @XJ7441
    @XJ7441 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Goku vs superman 3 where ?

  • @MilkyWayMarsBar
    @MilkyWayMarsBar หลายเดือนก่อน

    They mentioned the Sonic X Mega Man crossover comic?? I read that when I was super little, since i loved Sonic and Mega Man---The comic was so good.
    Knew Silver was going to win (and I'm not saying this as a 17 year old lifelong Sonic glazer---Archie Silver {and Archie ANY Sonic character} is INFINITELY more powerful than any of their other counterparts.) Listen, I grew up with DB and DBZ, but Trunks was definitely not going to win.

  • @KurayamiSaidai
    @KurayamiSaidai 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I call bs on this fight, trunks himself doesnt have to use cards he can call in/ summon whoever he wants that works in the time patroll, instead kf GT goku and pan they should have used xeno goku and vegeta, or beat and note, those are the people hes normally with

  • @themidnightmagicshow9535
    @themidnightmagicshow9535 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do frieza vs megaton next

  • @mikeoxwett546
    @mikeoxwett546 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sanji vs rock lee next please 😢

  • @EstanteSonoraPodcast
    @EstanteSonoraPodcast 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ken & bettany could you two please react to 4 death battles for me First one is Ben10 vs Green lantern from justice league Second one is Sephiroth from final fantasy vii vs vergil from Devil may cry third one is Danny phantom vs Jake long and last one yang xiao long from RWBY vs tifa lockhart from final fantasy vii that is my request

  • @beastmangaming3424
    @beastmangaming3424 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pls shoto todoroki vs zuko😔

  • @VampTwinkie
    @VampTwinkie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    kinda like when people pit Naruto characters vs dragon ball z or even Bleach...like what

  • @madhavmandava
    @madhavmandava 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    too bad Trunks Lost....lets just hope the other time Cops don't this too personally :P

  • @ImmaCalendarMan
    @ImmaCalendarMan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want you to know that prior to this episode's release, the common thought was that Trunks destroyed Silver. In the episode itself, they even try to soften the blow of Silver's win by saying Trunks was cooler and could have won in certain circumstances. I believe the research team even said this episode was actually very close. I just wanna push back on the idea that this outcome was obvious. It very much was not.

  • @julioangelleonsa2431
    @julioangelleonsa2431 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Naaah que fumada se metió el creador de esta comparación 😂😂😂😂

  • @nuclearbeast4926
    @nuclearbeast4926 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hell yeah

  • @reggielacey2235
    @reggielacey2235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They still managed to downplay silver tho as they didn't mention any of his energy blasts or the fact he can teleport or his shield od light or anything

    • @chrismanning2888
      @chrismanning2888 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      They literally say he can teleport instantly during his analysis

  • @ivanteoh930
    @ivanteoh930 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing abt DB is that they can be very BIAS in there match-ups for Trunks case a lot of people were asking for Trunks vs Cable whom both had way more similarities but instead did this match-up just to make Trunks lose

  • @cloudmv15
    @cloudmv15 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We don’t talk about about DB Heroes, EVER 😵‍💫

  • @reggielacey2235
    @reggielacey2235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Bro at this point game sonic characters are just as strong as there archie counterparts. I mean they are so strong now that them in base could defeat bosses that it took super forms or even multiple super forms to beat

    • @kawasaki1113
      @kawasaki1113 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      An example of this is Sonic in base form defeating Perfect Chaos.

  • @shade4108
    @shade4108 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's the same story, anime characters seem to be slightly weaker than cartoon characters

  • @Mankey619
    @Mankey619 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is why I don't like DragonBall Super. They just try way too hard to be like DC here, and ever since Marvel started the multiverse and timeline to their stories. Everyone is copying what Marvel is doing, because in my opinion it's one of the most laziest and unoriginal stories to add. Especially for DragonBall.