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- After Mage Rebalance I thought clearing up some questions about gearing and the approach to Inferno. Occult has been nerfed, and it's not worth bringing more mage switches to make up for that, you still bring Virtus Top/Crystal Shield/15% damage Mage Staff and Occult. If you want a budget version, just bring bofa instead of Masori/T-bow, they are within 15% of each other.
I didn't show all the waves and exact solves but I did try to explain all the basics. If you want in-depth handholding, I suggest watching the other videos, but if you are familiar with Inferno, this should be plenty fine for you.
The best plugin to use here is Tzhaar HP Tracker, it gives you all the HPs of monsters above their heads, and the pillars.
I don't believe in using the Blood or Smoke scepters that other people recommend using on first capes. I think they are trolling. The dps you lose while using these is worse than the extremely small overheal that you get. Kill things faster = Less damage taken = Get cape.
I also don't believe in losing your pillar pre 56. It creates too much panic at North pillar and it doesn't solve the problem of Nibblers going wild. Give them 1 cast wave 50+ and solve the wave. Pillars are a resource to use so that you can have time to solve the wave (when they aren't on your North pillar), so cherish them.
Learn how to pray flick, bring proper gear and come into Inferno with an open mind to learn. Otherwise you are just cheating yourself out of accomplishment. Good luck!
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Aatys driving the bus is hilarious
48:45 - 49:33
47:30 actually Aaty recommends nuking south pillar for a different reason (albeit what you said is definitely part of the logic). The south west spawns slide along the south pillar, changing their line of sight. If you remove the south pillar, the south west spawns path slightly differently, which changes what can see you when you're above the north pillar. He explains this around 53:30 in his very first First Cape Friday video.
Litterally just finished watching your bowfa inferno run..... oh my daaaayyyyzzz im blessed today, thankyou for this content you savage beast! Keep repping breddaaaaahhh
Hedron is quick with the editing, holy
Goddamnit Gnomemonkey!!! I just got my infernal cape and NOW you drop this guide! Still watched because even though I have a cape I feel like I know like 20% of inferno tech, so I'll be going again on task soon!
Watched this video 2 day ago and just got my infernal cape tonight! I had to come back to show my gratitude! This video was perfect and released right when I needed it! Ty Gnome Monkey! From here on out, I am no longer a cheese caper. :D
your guides and aaty have helped tremendously. im on attempt 17 right now, and ive been to zuk three times already. learning to be patient and how to flick makes the inferno SIGNIFICANTLY easier. taking a break rn, but the cape is soon to be mine.
Attempt 17 is great! You got this! Most people do it within 50. Don't sweat it
Thanks to this guide, i have finaly got myself a Nice bought Infernal Cape thanks bro😄
bro always has the best guides
Imagine if "a friend" watched this instead of whatever the heck he put himself through to get his cape
A Friend is using lunar sleep rn he can't hear you.
You can add mr no sleep to the list
Alkans dumb ass hardcore with billions of xp and a max fire cape
Xp is cooler than infernal cape@@jacobknowsgeorgebushdid9119
Someone needs to force afriend to watch this 6 hour capes are not the way
Gnomonkey, you're a god. Like the wise old teacher we need but don't deserve. Thank you.
Any serious tips for the wasn’t even close CA? One of my last ones for GM and I’m struggling lol. Is there like specific waves I should be pre brewing for etc? Amazing vid btw was rolling at the beach ball analogy.
@gnomonkey I have everything except the TBow.. what would you recommend doing in that case?
Appreciate any response my brother! Thank you for taking the time to make such an in depth guide for us!!
Bofa is still very good. Tbow just speeds it up a bit. Just run Crystal armor instead of masori. And it has the added benefit of being 4 tick instead of tbow’s 5 tick. Which is nice because it lines up with mage/range/melees attack speed so you can easily lazy flick with offensive prayers/quick prayers. If you can complete inferno with a tbow you can complete it with a bofa and vise versa
Hard disagree on doing colosseum after inferno.
In terms of cost, its very easy to make up death fees from uniques you get from the waves. Colosseum is a ton more approachable in terms of time commitment. Learners can get to sol in 30-40 minutes compared to the 2 hr+ in inferno. It teaches you prayer flicking in a very understandable way. And it is far more exciting to learn especially when you can get to waves 10-11 as you can get a 5-100m drop. Also, you can get lucky on waves and pretty much get a free shot at sol if you get a single or no south spawns on waves 10 and 11. Sure having an inferno cape will be nice for the sol fight, but in no way would it ever be a determining factor as to whether or not you will kill him.
Inferno, it is all but guaranteed that you will have 5+ attempts, each 2 hours or more longer where you will be down millions in supplies with absolutely no positives other than hopefully getting some knowledge on what killed you and how to prevent it. This is a huge deterrent for many people that does not exist in colosseum.
Hard agree
Same.
Does Falador Shield 4 still give multiple prayer restore refreshes if doing an Inferno run around reset time?
Why wouldn't it? Granted, I've been away from the game for a long time.
Prayer shouldn't be a limiting factor if you lazy flick like... at all. I guess if you have a really low prayer level, but you have a fally shield 4...
Take the shield lol
Got my cape the weekend before rebalance. Perfectly calculated
Make more videos more often multiple times a day.
youre actually amazing
Catch me live almost every day! :)
@@GnomonkeyRS :)
Gnomonkey, thank you for the guide. Preparing for the Zuk CAs. Would you be able to post your plugins + what to put in the true tile section for the Zuk shield? Great shout with that Tzharr hp plugin. Looking for any other relevant ones before I start. An in-depth plugin guide would be amazing.
I have a plugin video that goes over all my PVM plugins
@@GnomonkeyRS Awesome, thank you! I'll check it out.
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I love u
@@OsrsCop :~)
Thanks for the guide! Great stuff! Correct me if I'm wrong, but I assume if you have bowfa and not tbow you're always just bringing full crystal armour and not masori?
Bofa setup is the exact same, except bring crystal and bofa. They are only about 15% different.
With bofa you pack full crystal. You're more likely to get more sets
I recently did inferno and colosseum.
Inferno sucks at teaching you mechanics (off ticking, prayer switching, etc). Colloseum is great at teaching.
I think you should complete inferno first, but I think you should send colosseum runs for a day or two and learn off ticking and pillar solves. You can get to meaningful learning opportunities in ten minutes in colloseum. You have to reach wave 50 inferno for the same. That takes about an hour. Massive difference.
Gl anyone just starting out. You can do it, especially when it feels like you can't. Take a break. Your brain will subconsciously process your experiences, and you'll be better the next time you play. Just pace yourself. Have another activity to switch to when you get frustrated.
Aatykon specifically says let south die after 49 b.c it helps southeast spawns slide in beside west if you go to north corner trap. Definitely a useful idea to avoid pillar stacks more often.
Still not worth it imo.
@GnomonkeyRS another reason is you dont get dragged when you barrage. I agree tho that if you have a way to protect it then go for it as a shield for your north pillar.
That Tz-Hp tracker plugin where they're highlighted red, I want that so bad for the rests of the game
wheres the tile markers
dumb question, but to switch targets while 1 tick flicking multiple monsters, do you just have to click target really fast and back to prayer flick or is there an easier way to time it to not lose the rhythm? So lets say ranger/mager stacked, first click from middle of pillar out pray mage then flick ranged tick after, THEN do i attack or wait for another mage hit first or does it matter
Quickly, you have time while alternating. Be confident.
Great video. How would the rebalance change for Bowfa Inferno Method for us who don't own a tbow yet?
BofA still great.
loved hearing the hollow knight music!
This whole time I've been following a guide from a year ago lul. I've been doing inferno attempts for the last 2 weeks and I will say I had some issues with the nibblers. Quite a bid of bad rng with killing them but I only had one attempt fail to a pillar falling and it was because I hadn't figured out some other key mechanics for dealing with them at the time. I've been running virtus top with occult and kodai and I've made it to zuk every time. The only issue I've been having is with the bowfa being complete dogshit. I don't have access to echo boots but I've been running devout boots and it feels very good compared to anything else. I usually get to zuk with 4 restores if I dont fuck up too hard and lazy flick the entire way there. I didn't even know that echo boots existed and yesterday I got dbl max hit on second set by ranger and died. God bless you. I'm going to go buy them.
my biggest issue on zuk is i always hit a second set before healers and i dont feel comfortable with risking extra hits sometimes. I try to get another hit in the middle if i can. I also really struggle with panic because I 've been trying to get my cape for 5 years. The closer I get the more my heart starts racing and I kind of freak out like omg is this it? but I think I self sabotage myself and give up by freaking out. I also struggle with killing the ranger and knowing when the second set is going to happen so I must be wasting a lot of time if you're only getting 1 set and I'm getting 2. However when I had a tbow several years ago, I felt like it was absurd and I was able to destroy zuk and I almost got my cape back then and this was without runelite, on the jagex original client because I didn't want to risk getting banned. Now everyone has the cape and none of them actually got it themselves. I almost feel like the cape is more of a sign of a noob than anything else. If I ever get it, I know it will actually mean something to me.
No one’s reading your autobiography bro
@@Zeabox i did, its not that crazy long
theres a zuk sim online that is basically a 1:1 to the fight, try it
You can off tick the mage range sets
I'd advise learning how to do that. It's not as hard as it seems and once you can do that, the *only* significant rng issue during zuk is healer lava spam
Oh, btw, I took about 3 years to get the cape for the same reason (nerves). Someone else mentioned the simulator. I second that suggestion. There's a 3d simulator that's very good.
When I finally killed zuk I was very nervous. Hands shaking and everything. You can do it. Send those simulated runs. I believe in you.
I know you've done an inferno bowfa guide before but what are the chances you do it now with the mage rebalance changes appreicate it !
It'd look the exact same to this just 15% slower
what would you bring for my gear, between virtus bottoms, or ancestral top? I get a max hit with the bottoms but more accuracy with the top
Ahrims
idk if you mentioned it, but I didnt catch it in the beginning. What should I do with bowfa instead of tbow, for armor that is? is replacing masori with crystal fine?
Bofa setup is the exact same, except bring crystal and bofa. They are only about 15% different.
@@GnomonkeyRS thank you! Just one more quick question if you don’t mind! So I have ancestral, is the defense from Virtus that crucial, especially since I have crystal instead of masori? I just hate selling/buying expensive items and would prefer to keep ancestral (can’t afford virtus otherwise lol)
Nah keep ancestral
I just relized you have a bowfa teaching run. Would you say the gear/setup in that are still relevant post mage rebalance?
Yup! BofA is still plenty good
@@GnomonkeyRS thank you
12:35 When I started doing cape, blobs where my worst enemy. Now that I know how to do the inferno, they are my best friend, they are little HP wagons just healing me up throughout the challenge!
How did you tag the shield to show its true tile?
What monster do you use green orb on and is it same npc throughout entire thing?
Im not sure if i understood properly when I run in the street without looking do i go for the bus or the semi
The scooter
i'm curious, is crystal+bofa or masori+twisted better for first capers? mainly asking because of the added ranged defense from crystal
Tbow and Masori are BiS
T bow. Killing things > tanking hits
Although not ideal... Bowfa first capes are actually pretty full proof as long as you don't lose too many ticks at Zuk.. Tbow doesn't really hit healers if you miss one but you can easily Bowfa from 9 tiles away and only lose one BP attack.. Bowfa also makes ranger in the set very free if you dump BP specs and then Bowfa till dead.. then tag mage..
Bowfa is also lovely for the waves themselves imho.. you can basically kill melees before they get to you (for first capes and not for speed.. I'd recommend getting rid of melees and bats asap and Bowfa handles both those roles very well.
wait so during zuk when range/mager come out if you dont attack 1 of them they go for the pillar? instead of you? dam ive just been eating 40s
They attack the shield. So you tag and kill Ranger asap, while shield tanks the Mager, and then you pray mage and tag mager and hold until 600 hp, then kill Mage, then Zuk
No inferno quiver haver here. I think as time goes on more ppl will get their quiver before their cape.
yeah I said this in stream, colo might be mechanically harder but the short runs are appealing to more people, you can beat your head at colo, get good at it and have an easy time with inferno due to the engrained knowledge. Its less accessible in terms of gear though imo
as absurd as it sounds to go quiver first then inferno, i agree. Part of the difficulty with inferno is spending 50+mins just to get to wave 50 where it gets fun. Where as colo is throwing you into "wave 50" off the rip.
It took me 6 weeks to get my cape, quiver is my next grind once i get more cash from Nex
@@Luis-od5on don't think its that absurd even though I did get my inf cape 6 years ago. Col is just way more approachable because of how short it is. you can hammer attempts super quickly while inferno is very long especially for first capers. I think having quiver for inferno is extremely nice also and arguably more useful than having infernal cape is for col (especially if they have torva )
"A lot of people die on that wave. It's one of the hardest waves."
I've died three times on 31 so far and I just feel so discouraged after trying to learn flicks but if you're saying it's difficult then I don't feel so bad. Gotta keep trying for sure.
It is! Be patient and kind to yourself. Don't give up. It's okay to regress and come back stronger. We have good and bad days
We're escaping the pizza cape with this one, lads.
Funny I got quiver but still haven’t tried inferno. 15 completions most in void with 80 defense, yet inferno feels daunting.
Is there a plugin to get this kind of HP tracker on other NPC's? Seems very handy for anything where you need to maximize dps
Unfortunately not
I dont recall if you touched on it, but virtus top better than ancestral to bring in?😊
It's the same, and cheaper
Do the zuk safespots work for bowfa too? Or it is just tbow?
BofA as well
What’s the plugin that makes the chat boxes flash red when you have messages instead of the normal blue?
That's just my resource pack - Dark Mode
@@GnomonkeyRS ahh tysm
I can't find it, but somewhere in the vid he types in a command for sw true tile for all (at least in inferno) does someone know where the timestamp is at for this?
I actually figured it out. They are all "Jal-" so I tried "Jal-*" and it worked.
Well this is perfect timing because I just got my quiver yesterday 🤭
36:16 why can’t you phantom blobs when you’re south? is it a distance thing or something?
50:17 and why doesn’t corner trapping work for melees on that side? does it have to do with the southwest tile thingy? i’m learning a lot but i don’t get all the exceptions to the rules
At 47:57 why wouldn’t you just stand north of the blob and mager and tbow the mager while alternating? Why did you kill blob first?
Probably because it’s a teaching steam & 99.9% of players would kill that blob first on a first cape lol
anyone know the plugin for those xp drops with the health and then how their hp turns red?
Tzhaar HP tracker
And customizable xp drops
Thinking of going back to OSRS and returning to my zuk helm grind. The last wall I hit was melee inferno; would echo boots be beneficial over the +2 strength of prims on scythe? Any other changes (like ultor ring) since your last melee inferno teaching video/stream? I haven't kept up with changes since I got my quiver on colosseum release
I think so.
I think zuk being a dps race is why im going to go for colo cape first on my iron. Got a shadow but no tbow.
plus quiver helps more with inferno than infernal helps with colo so it's better
@@rssoulsplit7007 possibly. Tho I'm not gonna argue either way since I haven't ran the dps calcs. Either way being able to send 4-5 attempts per session at colo feels better to me than 0.5-1 attempts at inferno.
Not true. Scythe with inferno cape is more powerful.
@@GnomonkeyRS true for scythe but I'm an ironmeme. Ran the dps calcs and its 0.03528 dps difference for my tent whip, bandos, serp setup with inferno vs fire cape while potted vs sol. Same max hit. If I had a scythe it would be a 3 max hit difference. So it's only a big deal if you have scythe
Why serp and not Nez even as Ironman? Colosseum has nothing that's going to venom you unless you take mayhem (which you absolutely shouldn't). Important for Soulreaper builds too which is only 10% worse than Scythe
Wait. But what about taking virtus legs INSTEAD of occult? They have the same magic damage and legs has more accuracy
Even at same max wearing occult is much more ranged defense total than legs, crazy those are equivalent though
Personally, I think mage rebalance is a great update.
Professor gnomonkey
Why do you say to never auto cast over manual cast?
he didnt say that... learn to listen
Is it too hard for a first cape without tbow?
Nope, bofa is perfectly fine
What about dt2 ancient scepters
No.
inferno with twisted bow is so different than without it..
cope + cap get a grip Brett
They are only 15% different.
only thing you missed is that eldritch lets you overheal prayer too. this means you can just send the specs at anytime and still benefit, letting LB ring do more work over the run
Honestly, you shouldn't need LB for casual runs.. Suffering is what helps you not have to flick ranger sets during Zuk..
Suffering is trolling.
how bad are Guardian Boots?
Very
lets get a cox tutorial
7:34 I think harm removes the ability to autocast ancients. So, it's a downgrade in inferno unless you are trying some standard book strats?
justi is fine. getting 2-3 hit by the ranger on zuk is ass.
Wrong. Justi is bad.
@@GnomonkeyRS idk, brewing takes away so many ticks having to restore and click. I agree one should be able to flick and not have to brew or wear justi though.
Imagine wearing clown boots in a teaching stream. Are you mocking the people that come to you for advice?
its not the serious man take a chill pill its a fkn game
@@brandonreal916 No, it really is that serious. Gnomonkey is spitting in the collective faces of all those who seek his guidance.
lol
is eldinis ward (f) any good
Marginally? Probably won't make or break a run, at all.
If i was a dev.. i would work on making all npc's have smart pathing. it would be like dream project.
completely ruining what makes this games pvm... thank god you aint a dev
@@pops9087 It wouldn't. safe spotting would be left alone it would just be corner trapping id want fixed. it just seems more of a bug to me than a feature. And had a hand in making an npc for our sister game.
First
aint no way we still doing inferno teaching in 2024
Ancient scepter with blood crystal.
It's bad. Use a 15% staff.
Bruh inferno content 🥱🥱🥱🥱 so boring and insomnia curing 😴😴 wake me up when its done 💤💤💤💤
Update: Just woke up and got infernal cape