🛑STOP🛑 Buying BAD PSUs! Best Power Supply for PC 2023
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Stop buying a bad power supply for PC! In this Best power supply for PC 2023 buying guide we cover everything you need to know to get the best power supply for gaming pc or any pc build in 2023. We review PC Power Supply basics like modularity, form factor, single vs multi rail, cable types and more. This Best power supply for PC guide also reviews why the 80 plus certification should not be relied upon, what actually makes the best psu for pc, and how to easily select a pc power supply for build quality using the PSU cultist list. We also review "how many watts do I need" and show you how to size your PSU wattage, including what to do if buying a high end graphics card with a big power draw. We make specific product recommendations for the best psu for pc 2023, including high wattage power supplies, A-Tier rated pc power supply, B-Tier rated pc power supply, and C-Tier or best budget pc power supply. Whether you need the Best PSU for gaming PC or other PC build, we've got you covered.
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0:00 Stop Buying Bad PC PSU!
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01:18 PSU Form Factors (Sizes)
01:55 Modular vs Non-Modular
02:22 WARNING - Don't Mix & Match!
02:36 Cable Extensions for Cool Colors
03:01 PSU Cables Explained
03:44 GPU Power Cables
04:32 12VHPWR Cable
05:31 Why You Should IGNORE 80 Plus Rating
06:35 What Makes the BEST PSU for PC?
07:38 Easy Mode to find the Best PSU
08:19 What Tier of PSU for PC for YOU?
09:00 How to Search PSU Cultist Tier List
09:30 How Many Watts Do You Need?
10:17 What about ATX 3.0?
11:30 Important buying tips
11:50 Best PSU 2023 Recommendations
12:04 High Wattage (1300W+) Recommendations
13:18 High Wattage (1200W+) Recommendations
14:33 1000W PSU Recommendations
16:22 Midrange PSU Recommendations
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What are you building? What PSU are you looking at? Tell your story in a new comment below!
I am stuck! I am piecing together a new build around an AMD 78003XD, AMD RX 7900 XTX. My hang up is the motherboard and PSU. This video certainly helps with the PSU but I want the best motherboard for this mix where money is not a problem!
I’m kinda with the guy above me 7800x3d and 4090 or 7900xtx I have a msi mpg a850gf do you think I could get away with keeping the psu without undervolting and should I undervolt (I know I’m fine with the 7900xtx but I’m concerned with the 4090 still making up my mine there).
The cultist page is not loading :c
I'm working on an AM5 Snow build with a Ryzen 5 7600, Sapphire Pure 7800XT, ASRock B650M Pro RS WiFi R, 32GB (16x2) Teamgroup T-Force Delta Alpha R 6000Mcycles at 38CL
@@-ixNay- if in the US go with the MSI X670E Tomahawk. It was 300 now it's only 260.
I've been building pc's for over 30 years. My advice for anyone new to it - never cheap out on a PSU. Buy a bit more than you think you'll need and you will not regret it. Luckily these days there are so many quality PSU's for reasonable prices.
Best advice you could possibly give someone.
Yes, there's lots of good deals! Thanks for sharing the advice and tuning in, too!
fuck. I bought a used $20 psu 😂
Seasonic is my favorite, 12 year warranty on their "Prime" units.
@@bengonzales1182 yup, love seasonic PSU's. i have a 850w unit on my main rig now. my old pc is like 11 years old with a seasonic and never had a single power issue. still using as a file server and it's been the most stable pc ive ever built.
That's the way to educate people about hardware. You show knowledge, articles, explaining the core of the matter and then linking practical examples with real products. As always, great video Jason. Keep it up!
A side note: I guess I will get the Focus GX 850 or the XPG Core Reactor 850 as next PSU for my new build. I'm so excited to get my hands on it lol
Thank you! Really appreciate that
That Gamers Nexus Deep Dive Video about 80+ is awesome. Most inexperienced don't know this. Also the PSU-Cultist-List is pretty great. It shows greatness that you point to others who have dealt with such topics wonderfully and can be a great help to many beginners.
That's one reason why I enjoy watching your channel after 30 years of building my own computers. Here I am always made aware of things that are obvious to me but a big mystery to beginners. Keep up the good work!
Was it Aris that came up with the new "80+" rating system? Corsair has adopted it on their website at least
He's quickly taking away my views from LTT.
@@Karldin83 Aris does the Cybenetics PSU test ratings for both power and sound.
In reality the average person can walk into a Best Buy and walk out with a decent power supply with minimum issues.
link pls
This is simply amazing! So many tips and information, I felt like I was bombarded with knowledge.
Like you get so many videos talking about CPUs and GPUs, but never the finer details like cables, which could be a huge issue if ignored.
Thank you!
I didn't know about this list, so thanks for pointing me at it. Back in 2019 when I built my PC, I went with an EVGA SuperNOVA 1200 P2, which is still in A-tier on there. I actually had a scare with it, as my computer died last April, and just wouldn't boot.
My friend brought his PSU over for me to test with it, and while his PSU only had two PCIe connectors and not 3, things spun up fine other than that, so we thought the PSU had died. So I RMAd my PSU to EVGA, and ordered one of the be quiet! ones as a replacement, thinking then I'd have the RMAd EVGA as a backup. Super nice unit, I did not like some of the pinouts on it, but the individually sleeved cables were nice. Either way, it wouldn't boot with that PSU either! I got to experimenting and figured out what had actually died was the third PCIe power connector on my Strix 3080. If it was plugged in, it wouldn't boot. Without it plugged in, it would, but it wouldn't POST as the GPU wasn't fully powered. So it turned out both PSUs were using overcurrent protection to keep the faulty GPU from breaking anything else.
So I sent back the be quiet! unit to Amazon for a refund, RMAd my GPU to ASUS, and when I got a replacement PSU from EVGA, everything booted fine and has been going strong ever since.
This was my second ever hardware failure, and oddly enough it was the GPU both times. The first was an ATI X1300, which died because I was a lazy college student and dust clogged up the fan until it overheated and died.
Same happened to me with the same power supply.
Just commenting to thank you for how simply and clearly you explain things. I really enjoy learning the *why* behind the parts I’m researching and you nail it every single video
Thanks so much for the feedback! That’s great to know. So glad it’s helpful
For PSUs I usually went with x 1.33 instead of x 1.5. This is because most PSUs from their instruction manual seem to most efficiently deliver power at about 75% of their full load. But last time I build was 5 years ago.
the human eye can't even see more than 240 watts
Is this meme or something? Because wattage is electric
@@boboboy8189 wow you are a genius
😂😂
@@thelionman97 his genius scares me
"No one should ever need more than 640 Kilowatts." - Bill Gates
Ok, I'm obviously kidding. He actually never said that - nor the false quote I got the idea from about 640KB of RAM, either.
Awesome timing on this video. I've been working on a new computer for a bit now and the only thing I had left was a PSU and my GPU. I wouldn't have given the Super Flower unit a second look until your recommendation and I'm so glad I caught it on sale!
Super flower are a experienced PSU manufacturer. Most companies don't make their own PSUs they buy them from a manufacturer like super flower then rebrand it as their own product.
Super Flower is an amazing PSU
Well that worked out well! Happy to hear it, thanks for watching!
Really happy I found you thank you so much for your hardwork. Always hated bias seller's but your builds focus so much on price vs what you get and someone who works in the server industry only making 30k a year thank you so much!. I am subscribed for life!!!!
So glad its helpful and thank you for the sub!
Lol I was watching your 2022 PSU video yesterday and you come up with this today.
haha! It was time (:
Bruh, i also watched his 2022 PSU video yesterday xD
Same!
Same bro i spent the night searching a psu for my msi 2080ti gaming x trio
Same here lmao
Yesterday I decided on the Seasonic FOCUS GX-750 for my build. Glad to see my choice being also one of your recommendations :)
How is it so far? and what gpu u have bud
sometimes you can get A tier PSU and it will be also very budgety price option... here in EU BitFenix A rated units are often sold at very good prices, same goes for ADATA/XPG (ADATA XPG CORE REACTOR 850W is beast)
Jason...thank you for sharing the important information about how power cable pinouts differ from one PSU to the next. I just learned about this on the MSFS forum, so when I upgraded from an EVGA 850 G6 to an EVGA 1000 G7, I emailed EVGA before swapping them out. The response was that the pinouts were the same for everything but the SATA cables, and they recommended that I use the ones that came with the G7. I wonder how many people have installed a new modular PSU, used all their existing cables, and damaged their computer. I would have done that without thinking about it. Who wants to reroute mainboard and VGA cables?
Great video.
like mannnnn this is too perfect timing! seriously, again, thank you! been great content for the year nad ton s of learning, but PSU and just getting that fact checked was critical before i just buy any corsair or evga psu, but cooooooooool tytytytyty. its the last part of my build i need ot lock in for my am5 system cause im just going all out so thnaks again
I have a Sama 850w PSU and SAMA case. The Sama psu is fully modular, and so far works great. It's 80 plat rated (oops) but we will see. It's running a 5700x and a 3080 for a budget build I did for someone. I had no idea about the psu cultist, they go nuts over there. Next PSU on my personal and others will be to consult that list!
The problem I have with the cultist rankings and videos like this is they don't tell you enough in details. For example I want nothing more than the best 850w or 750w and nothing higher but all the A tier seem to be 1000 above, I get it that they're supposed to be more expensive hence better but what if I want the best of the lower wattage, nowhere to know that I guess
RTX3080 Max power consumption is 350 watts, 5700x is 144 watts. So you need 550 watts PSU. How the heck you bought 850 watts PSU?! 350+144=850? Jesus...
Love the content Jason!!! Keep up the great work!!!!
Thank you! Hope you enjoy!
i was watching your 2022 psu video literally last night. ur timing is incredible
Thanks for your videos I was able to build my first PC 3 days ago and I'm loving it. Greetings from Bolivia
That's great, congrats on your first build!! And saludos from the States!
Got the Rm1000X Shift. Absolutely love it and it's A tier rated with a gold name on the cultist tier list. Just gotta make sure you have a compatible case
Got that one as well before knowing about the cultist list. Was very happy to see it was A tier. And yes, making sure the case is compatible is important. I had to mount it upside down until I got a new case with the full cutout for cable passthrough.
Best thing about that Lian Li SFX PSU is that even though it’s not ATX 3.0, it comes with a 12VHPWR connector adapter.
I don't want to use an adapter as I want the actual cable and connections.
I can’t stand the stupid name. Lian-Li, come on.
@@niemoikein4330 cry about it 😂
@@niemoikein4330 It's not Lian-Li nomenclature, it's NVIDIA's. Every PSU vendor uses it with their ATX 3.0 power supply offerings.
I just bought a white Phanteks AMP V2 for my 7900xtx build and got it installed yesterday thanks to a previous video of yours 💪
I am building a new PC and I LITERALLY just watched your 2022 version of this before u released this video. I really appreciate your videos, they've been super helpful to a noob like me in informing me of putting my build together
So glad we could help with your new build, that's why we do it--you got this! Thanks for watching!
I've been a SeaSonic devotee since 2000 (when I could first find them locally available). They are the manufacturer for many brand names who just slap a sticker on their PSUs and hand out the warranties on these well designed and manufactured power supplies.
The best of the best PSUs of the whole world! 👍🏼✅
Had 3 of them, one doa other two coil whine , fuck seasonic
Hey Jason, regarding the SFX power supplies its worth noting that a lot of the ones you recommended are SFX-L and not SFX like the SF850L (L denoting that the power supply is slightly larger and therefore may not fit in certain cases, not the generation of PSU as an SF850 never existed unfortunately!)
Reminds me of those huge E-ATX motherbaords; if you miss that E prefix, you won't fit that big, expensive part into your case
@@_M.... there are! non-L PSU's are still essential in many sff builds, such as corsair's SF600 and SF750, as well as some offerings from Lian-Li, Silverstone, and Cooler Master
I’m new to building pc and this guy is explaining everything in details🙏🏿 Protect him at all cost!!!
I have had a few PSU die on me, but the one that is going the longest for me is the one that is highest on the tier list of my owned units, my old reliable EVGA Supernova from like 8ish years ago. And while I expect all PSU to eventually die, I prefer them not to take out the rest of my rig when they do, and at least last long enough in the system until the cpu/mobo becomes obsolete. So the first video I watched that sourced the tier list is very helpful, and one component I will always buy with proven ratings.
I did a lot of research before building my gaming (MSFS) rig two years ago, and decided on the EVGA 850 G6 Supernova. It's been a solid PSU. But as I've added components and upgraded others I've found that I've been seeing power draws over 720W at full load. So I just swapped in a new EVGA 1000 G7 to give the system a little more headroom. I'm convinced that many simmer's instability problems are due to 'cheaping out' on their PSU. Videos like this are very important, as they help guide folks as they design their systems.
@@eracer1111would you say that the G7 is worth getting? I’m making a new build and debating on a few power supplies and that is one of them.
I got the Thermaltake Toughpower PF3 1050W (80 plus platinum) for 58€!!!! There was an amazon price error and managed to grab it. It costs 200€+ atm here in europe. Using it rn for my new build that i got a month ago.
Nice!
yeah i got fractal design ion 2+ platinum £60( half price) too good to miss. No regrets there it's a fantastic unit.
definitely a saving on power bills too.
Running a rtx3070+ R7 3800x but did have an overkill PSU (thermaltake toughpower 750w 80+w.... changed to fractal 560w 80P+ and it shaves about 10% off the bill every month..some efficiency but some also better tuned on the power curve....setup should be about 300w base load...400w surge!) makes a big differece when in heavy use.
Great video, very comprehensive. PSU pricing in the uk is a little funky, often there is only £5-£10 difference between 750w and 850w units (£5 difference with the Be quiet one you recommend). If the difference is this little then always worth considering the 850w unit if budget allows, as it gives a little extra headroom for future gpu changes.
unfortunately that's the same thinking like 20 years ago, (just take 100W more and you will be save). If it's from the same crappy brand, it makes no difference, besides it will just use more power
I like how Jason still refer or provide other sources of other YT Videos. No heavy competition and just provide education for building PC. Thank you!
You're very welcome! Gotta help the PC-building community all around :)
I just bought the "be quiet!" Pure Power 1200W ATX 3.0 PSU for my build two days ago. It'll be rocking a Gigabyte 4090 (that I'm about to leave and go pick up) and a i7-14700k on an MSI 7Z90 mobo. It may be overkill, but I think I made a good choice with my PSU! Like someone else just mentioned in another comment, I was recently just watching your 2022 PSU video on top of ALL your other videos and I just want to say THANK YOU for providing me/us with the best crash courses on everything related to building PCs! Seriously, your video formats are absolutely perfect and you are very well articulated. I can't recommend any other channel for people to first go to if they have PC questions. Thanks again!
1200w for games? LOOL 750w its enought on this spec with good power supply. and good power consumption. 1200w its waste power consumption than 750/850w when usage only 5%/10% wattage
13:32 Peter Griffin is going to have a real problem with you recomnending a MEG PSU.... 😀
Thanks for watching! Peter Griffin: Who is Meg? :D
Literally just watched the PSU video from last year. So glad see the update before my black Friday build😊
Super Flower Leadex VII should be the #1 reccomendation overall. Its the cheapest and reasonable price for a Tier A PSU. Just bought the 850W version last week, cant find anything better than Leadex VII in terms of value tbh.
I agree. The 750w has been around 75 usd and it's a great value at that price. Has a great warranty and Super Flower isn't getting out of the psu space unless the whole company sinks unlike companies that dabble in everything, so you will more than likely have actual support fir the life of the psu.
Great video and great advice Jason. Can't stress enough how useless and actually misleading 80+ is.
In fact, 80+ labels can actually be bought. If your "newly released" PSU is based on an already certified OEM model, you just pay a fee and get that same label without testing. Even if it has cheaper components (in case you told your OEM to save costs). So there are loads of "gold" off-brand units out there that wouldn't even meet 80+ white standards if tested.
There is Cybenetics though, they actually test for everything. Their certification is trustworthy.
yeah lots of random PSU makers doing "gold" rated stuff that really isn't.
if you have the money to spend on high end components,then absolutely get a good quality PSU to match.
never had any issues with bequiet/EVGA/Corsair/Fractal design or seasonic.All of them very solid and will last you for ever.
80 plus gold (and over) really is the real deal on these.you WILL get what it says on the box.
For a component that is used every bit as much as the cpu,it is totally worth paying the little bit extra for lower noise levels and better efficiency.
as for power specs, go by theoretical power usage, and then multiply by 1.3.
(rule of thirds is good 2/3 as base load and 1/3 as insurance), but is a bit hit and miss.you really want peak load to be hitting about 60-70 % of PSU rating..it will never get anywhere near that in real life, but you don't want to be having system idle at below 10% of PSU either as you're wasting energy. sweet zone for all work is 20-70%
Thanks so much, glad you appreciated it! Happy to spread some learning :)
Just found your channel and loving the format and content! The memory episode on DDR4 vs DDR5 fantastic
So glad you found us! Glad you're enjoying the content, thanks so much for tuning in.
Thanks Jason! I was wondering if you could provide some advice on the topic of UPS, Surger protectors, etc... Are these things really needed in order to protect de PC components? Or just a high rated PSU will take care of handling power problems?? Thank you!
i actually got nervous seeing your video in my feed because its so detailed, im currently building a new pc piece by piece and i have accidentally selected one of the psu you reccomended, great video alot of information especially for people who aren't aware of the differences. legend
Glad to help!
Excellent knowlegeable video about PSU and their cable management.
I'm feeling pretty good. I just got the rm1000e a couple weeks ago, and now here it is as the thumbnail. Very happy with it.
Greetings from Texas👋 loving the recent content. I'm building another pc soon and these videos are making my life so much easier😳
Hi there, love to hear it! Good luck with your next build :)
watching these videos are going to make me self conscious about the parts I picked. I got an EVGA Supernova GT 1000 for my current build but plan on picking up the 4090 or successor in the future, like an 5090 or whatever it'll be called. It was $138 during black friday and it seemed like a good deal. I bough it purely based on review ratings on the site (I know that is hit or miss) and using evga in the past. Though I've only really used CM, EVGA, Antec, in the past. I though to getting a seasonic this time around or a phantek amp. But the seasonics were around 250-300 price, and I couldn't find the phantek amp white in stock.
this was for a white build and I ended up just buying white cable mods.
Its not now that I realized I could have just spent a bit more on some other white psu's that I'm not familiar with and it would have been roughly the same since the psu + cable mod extensions made it roughly the same price as these higher end white units.
I'm hoping the EVGA GT1000 supernova is decent.
Just wanna say thank you to you for this video. I just had my cheapo PSU (that I bought out of necessity due to my limited budget a year ago) eat up 1 HDD and 2 NVMe SSD. Thankfully the MSI MAG A550BN is available for very cheap and the distributor on my land is also very supportive. Beyond that specific point, the video is also very informative, telling us a real lot of what we need to know about the parts.
I like my rm750e a lot, cool to see you approve of my PSU choice for my build a few months ago haha!
Great video! What are your thoughts on the Corsair RMX Shift series? Particularly 750W & 850W. Would you pick Corsair RMX Shift or RMe?
Learned a great deal about PSUs the ratings info ie gold bronze etc was very interesting. I always try to buy up in power supplies as it helps with computer protection. TY great video
Thanks Rand!
I've just sent back my Seasonic PX 1300 watts Platinum back because of a loud fan turning on Hybrid Mode even at idle and got replaced it by a Seasonic TX 850 watts Titanium and MAN this is so much quieter and more efficient!
Using a 4090 undervolted and a 5800X3D uv on -30 I wont draw more than 350-500 watts and most of time just 350-380 watts on average so the 850 watts PSU is just perfect for me!
Thank you so much Seasonic! You're just awesome 👍🏼❤
Keep it up jason!!! Can you do a video showcasing PC builds for creator use?
So glad you are enjoying! Check out our Best GPU/CPU Combo 2023 video, we go over the adjustments I would make for production/creator pcs!
One really important aspect I recently discovered is cable compatibility. Only a handful of really popular PSU’s have good aftermarket options for cables. I unfortunately have a really nice PSU that has the several meters of bulky stiff cables about a dozen pigtails I don’t need. Cable management was nearly impossible.
Cheers for the video, picking out parts is simple enough for most of them, but choosing a PSU got complicated recently
It can be tricky for sure! Glad to help!
I used a SEASONIC PRIME Ultra 650W 80+ Platinum 140mm Compact ATX (SSR-650PD2) in my last PC build (late 2019, 1080p AMD 3700X system, 32gb, GTX1660Ti, Intel Enterprise SSD) & it is still going strong today 4 years later. The PC is turned on & running for 4-12 hours per day, pretty much every day.
Extremely detailed guide! It's a pleasure to see you mention us; truly an honor.
Thank you very much! Happy to :) Thanks for tuning in.
My build last Christmas had the Corsair RM1000e (tier A on Cultist) to power a 16 GB RX6800XT card, never had any issues with it at all.
Hi Jason, absolutely love your content. I recently purchased a RTX 4090 Asus Tuf OC. Will I run into any issues with my current PSU EVGA Supernova P2 1200w. I know I will have to use an adatper. Is this an ok solution?
To those this may help, I just recently acquired an EVGA RTX-3080Ti FTW Ultra. It's TDP is said to be 320W. However, at some point EVGA adjusted the VBIOS so that it might actually pull up to 450W. I had no idea when I got it. My existing PSU was a Corsair HX850, which has served me excellently for 2 years. While using GPU-Z to monitor my GPU on a game, I saw it start rising to 420+ W, and BOOM - a shutdown. No parts were harmed, but I was pretty disappointed.
Have a Corsair RM1200X Shift arriving today. Looking forward to letting the GPU spread its wings and fly.
I've put a custom shroud on the GPU that allows case fans to be used. It's much quieter and has lower temps (5-10C). Will likely pull huge power to OC it.
Always save a backup of your factory VBIOS. With most newer enthusiast cards this is not such an issue as they have a dual bios switch (you can revert to factory by flicking a physical switch on the GPU). But cards like the old EVGA 30 series don't have this, so if you upgrade the firmware your SOL.
Exactly the video what I needed thank you Jason ❤
So glad the timing is good!
I honestly love your channel, you upload videos at just the right time! You've helped me save money on my build and create an overall better machine, Thanks c:
That's what we love to hear, learning and savings! Congrats on the savings and the build :)
Well done making the most important point right out of the gate!
You can engineer a PSU to pass the 80 Platinum rating that dies 10 minutes later.
Why waste money on a modular PSU when it is all going to be hidden in that massive and otherwise useless (these days) basement? You can get extensions if you want the custom look.
I'd suggest just staying away from current gen Nvidia GPUs. The problems with the connector say they didn't design it correctly. They're trying to shove twice as much current through a much smaller surface area. That can never work out well. The better solution to enhanced power control would be to add a separate data line that plugs into the PCIe 1x slot nobody ever uses because it is blocked by the GPU and retain the proven 2x8pin. The MB can already communicate with the PSU via the 24 pin connector. All you have to do is modulate the PG signal to actually send data. Why design proprietary hardware to do something that can be done in software already, with off the shelf components? The only new thing you need is a smart PSU and that really isn't new. You just put a microcontroller, that already exists, inside your PSU and teach it some new tricks.
At the end of the day, all Nvidia is doing is trying to justify the cost of their GPUs with shiny baubles. It is a solution in search of a problem.
I'm quite sure I will never buy a 1000W PSU for a gaming PC🤦♂🤦♂
Nothing worth having a premium PC for these days anyway. You pay all that money and you're still running the latest releases at 50fps🤦♂🤦♂
If I spend $2k on a GPU, I expect 120fps at 4k ultra, with native rendering. I get more enjoyment from gaming for next to nothing anyway. With my current system, everything I get from here on out is gravy because I already got my money's worth out of it because I didn't spend any more than I had to. I don't get pissed off when my framerate is low because it essentially cost me nothing at this point to get what I get. Current GPU was basically free because I mined on it before I threw it in a gaming rig.
Very useful. I have 10 year old Corsair HX 750 and works well.
Question is will it still support todays high end cards like RX 7900 XT(X) or similar?
Great video like usual. If possible can you make a video on CPU coolers? Been a while since your last video, so would great to get an up to date video for all the new coolers. Thanks!
Thank you so much. And coming soon! :)
Came back to watch this a second time before I made a decision. I'm in Spain and just bought a Seasonic Focus GX 850w for 105 euros and comes with a 10 year warranty. Thank you for the great insight!
So happy we could help! Thanks so much for watching! :)
Hey Jason.
First of all.
Thank you so much for your content and information.
It's worth gold like we use to say in my language.
I always pick a be quiet! psu.
My pleasure! Thank you for watching
Perfect timing with this video, I just looked up available PSUs and did not know what to pick!
Amazing! Glad you tuned in ;)
@@PCBuilderChannel I know this is out of topic but what mobo should I get ? The Gigabyte B550M Aorus Elite at 79 euros or the DS3H which is 10 euros cheaper. Is there any performance or reliability difference ? Thanks!
Before Jason's vids I had no idea how to pick PSUs. THank yoU!
Love to hear this, happy we could help with some learning! PC Builders for the win :)
Great Video! I'm thinking of getting the MSI MPG A1000G because of this and also its on sale now in my country. Just a noob question, does this work with 7900 xtx that requires 3x8pin? I saw on their website it only have 2x pcie 6+2 cable. Can it use the 16 PIN to 6+2 PIN for the third one which connects on the 12vhpwr?
Corsair psu’s for the win. My 2007 HX620W is still in use today. Hasn’t skipped a beat. Now I’m running a Corsair mx1000w in my new build
I have a RM1000e right now and has atrocious coil whine when not running games and just on chrome/youtube. How is the mx1000 unit in that aspect with coil whine?
I have no reason to be watching this video as I am not currently in the market for a PSU, but I love your videos Jason and always learn something, so here I am. I picked up the MSI MPG A850G PCIE5 850 Watt 80 Plus Gold ATX Fully Modular PSU back in August.
As well as educational, I find Jason's videos entertaining.
Glad you're enjoying it anyway! Thanks for watching.
Love to hear it, thanks! Happy you're enjoying all the content.
Thanks, very useful video. especially introducing me to the A.B.C. tiers on the cultists network.
You're welcome, glad you found this one useful! Hope you keep enjoying all the content :)
Bought an A tier PSU based on your previous video. Glad to see it still holding up this year 👍🏼
Glad we could help!
Wow thanks for it jason, I really needed it
Love it when the timing is good!
I got the MSI A750GL and it's been working pretty good, at 1st I want the A750GF but the store I've been looking in run out of that psu so I got a new version.
Hey! Thank you for your advice, I decided to go with the Pure Power 12 M 1000w, got it at $129 for black friday, couldn't be happier with the choice 🎉
Congrats on the deal, happy we could help! Thanks for watching :)
I have a question Jason: I have heard horror stories about extension cables, but I also know they look "spiffy". Especially the EPS cable which is a tad too short in my current situation. It means the cables are not nicely cable managed. I use the FSP 1200W - I rather go a bit higher than needed. PCPartspicker was gauging my built around 700W - at least I do not need to keep wondering if it needs a new PSU. Hey, what is your understanding of PSU wear? How long can a PSU last? I see people mentioning 2-3 years is the max.
Just an additional important note regarding power transients. Not all PSU's - even good or premium PSU's - can handle the power transients you mentioned in your video. I have a three year old Seasonic Prime Titanium TX-1000 (it is a relabelled SSR-1000TR) and it cannot handle the power transients caused by some of my older games when there are wild swings in GPU load due to loading inventory screens, etc. on my RTX3090. The symptom is black screen and 100% fans on the GPU and sometimes the PSU will go into OCP mode and reset the PC. My friend with the exact same Seasonic model had the exact same issues on his PC using an RTX3080Ti. I feel a bit shitty as I was the person who recommended Seasonic to him.
To resolve the issue I had to upgrade to a new BeQuiet Straight Power 12 1200W power supply which is ATX 3.0 complaint. Apparently Seasonic was sending out 24-pin replacement motherboard power cables to resolve the issue on their older Seasonic models for free but I don't know if this option is still available.
I bought the Straight Power 12 1000 Watts two days ago 😊
Ive had good luck with some off brand PSUs. Ive been running a montech for 2 years on my gaming pc and i picked up a segotep for my NAS build for a steal.
Love your content! Your wife does an exceptional job with the editing!
Love to hear it, thank you so much for tuning in! Teamwork makes the dream work :D
Hello Jason, really helpful video as always, I have a friend who just recently said that he has problem with “games crashing and pc automatically restarting” while playing it for a while, and he doesn’t know where the problem is, when he asked me I told him it can be the psu but I wasn’t sure about that, is there a possibility that he needs to upgrade the PSU or maybe he has other issues, here are some of his pc specs i9-13900kf with 4070Ti and z690 ddr4 motherboard and the psu is 750w but I don’t know which model or anything specific. Can you tell if this is the problem that his PSU is causing the games to crash, What are your thoughts about this.?
Edit: the psu he’s using is “Seasonic b12 bc-850W bronze 80+”
Great video, Jason. No love for the Thermaltake Toughpower GF3? You are breakin' my heart over there, man. 😉👌
How do you feel about the Cybenetics list of PSUs? I did recently upgrade from 650 to 1000W and very happy I did.
Damn you recommended that msi mag 650 I thought it was a good low tier too according to the list, I had a seasonic that happened to be an iGPU type of psu lol so my PC was refusing to turn on sometimes, so I had to upgrade to another one and I had a really tight budget and I love MSI so I went with the MAG A-BN one
I just ordered the components for my pc. All new parts. Ryzen 5 3600, rx 6600, 16 gb 3200mhz cl16,asus prime b550m a, a550bn c tier psu, deepcool cc360 case. 1tb kingston pcie 4.0 ssd. All for 560 dollars. I could not get this price to performance without you, Pc Builder! My love and respect for you from Romania!
I got really lucky recently when I picked up a used 1300watt B tier psu that is fully modular for 130$ Canadian that is still new in box. Can’t wait to hook it up
You are the best person for newbies like me. I wanted to build a PC after 12 years and got so lost. Binged watched so many of your videos and now I feel like I am educated enough to make a decision. Thank you so much for your contribution to the community 🙏🏻
This is great to hear! Thanks so much for watching, you got this! So happy to help. Make sure to check out our How To Build a PC video when you're ready :)
Notice a number of reviews for the corsair RM750e have issues with the fan having a revving and coil whine sound, I'm going to need a new psu to get my next gpu next month and all I need is 750W, the be quiet one is $20 more but I don't really know if I'll get a unlucky one.
More or less retiring the old 2070S and it's issues with randomly turning into a jet engine and going back to quiet have damaged me mentally.
If anyone sees it, likely getting a 7800xt HH, that's enough performance for 1440p, no interest in RT or 4k and a 750w should leave me enough room to get a next step up model, I think when that happens I will have a full refresh anyway, 5-10 years on.
The be quiet straight power 11 gold modular 750W is the other choice for 10-20 more.
9:09 haha, i was gonna say earlier i got a Mid Tower that can not use beyond SFX-L... LOL, no ATX. Now I check the PSU list as you suggested and the one I been considering is at the very top of the A Tier! Only thing I have not decided is to get either 850 or 1000 W because I havent fully decided if I should get 1 or 2 GPU for my upcoming build after 20+ years.
Always had good luck with Eva and Corsair right now been using a 1000w corduroy in my old pc 8 years and my itx has the sf750
Would you choose corsair rm650, coolermaster mwe 650 gold v2, or evga supernova 650gt? Im using rtx4060 and i5-13400. All of them are golds. Which one should i go for? Also what are those rated?
Glad i picked up the RM1000X shift series for my new MB
Your timing is amazing 👏🏽
17:12 That's my PSU, I'm happy to hear that i made a good choice and for my i5 12600k/RX6700XT it's more that enough. BTW in EU the price is 120€ for 750W and 135€ for 850w.
Great advice here. Jason puts in the work with unbiased advice, research and a sprinkling of personality. Nice one.
Glad you found this one so helpful! Happy to keep the community informed :) Thanks for the support!
I also advise to check FSP Fortron Hydro 1200W Platinum - very good power supply manages my i9 13900 non K, RTX 3090 and RTX 3060 along with 3 ssd and 6 HDD - no problem with cooling also, got eco mode as well.
I just bought a be quiet 1200w 12m. It’s on the speculative a tier list on the cultist list. I was replacing a dell oem 1500w psu from an old Alienware system, because the fan was dying and would shake horribly. The be quite psu is amazing. It’s quite, and it’s very over rated for my system rn, and will work amazingly with a future gpu upgrade with the 12v connector. The only thing is the power cord for the psu is very short, so I had to put the unit with the fan facing up, plus the Area 51 case does not fit with the units fan facing down, only facing up, and it’s a very tight fit at that. However, the case is huge, and there is plenty of air for both the psu and graphics card because I have a fan blowing onto both of them.
Thanks for sharing!
Fractal ion 2s are crazy good too. Fractal's really killing it lately whatever they're putting out.
I've had my Cooler Master v850 for 9 years now, and it's still going strong!
I went in to a store to get a PSU on sale for black friday, and was going to get a 1000w corsair PSU, which is all fine and dandy, but the store rep pointed me to Hydro G Pro 1000w, which was on sale for quite a bit cheaper because it's less known. Guess they had been looking at this tier list haha
Thank you so much! Great guide
Much appreciated, glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
just got msi meg 1300W psu. i can finally have another little trinket to look at on my hardware monitor -- output wattage and weekly power consumption
I'm building a makeshift home server and I have an old coolermaster in there and it is always so hot to the touch. I only plan on powering about 8 3.5" hdds and a low end gpu with this setup so I can go with low wattage but I would like something modular and not overheating. It seems like the only option is corsair unless I want go gamble on a psu with little to no reviews