The Stockport Underbanks. The Court, The Clockmaker and the Shaft.
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- In this video we visit the Underbanks area of the Town of Stockport. This area of Stockport is full of history. Its is currently being re generated. We visit the old courthouse of Stockport with its dungeons, dating back to medieval times. We also visit a famous Jewellers shop called Winters famous in the Underbanks area. We also visit a mysterious old shaft discovered in a building thats being renovated. What could the abandoned shaft be. We take a look at a famous spot in Stockport where L S Lowry stood and sketched the famous Stockport Viaduct. Join us on this historical tour of the town of Stockport. We also take a look at where the River Mersey begins at its source.
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Great Video
My mother worked as a trainee florist in the 1930/40s in a shop at the top of Mealhouse Brow. She once told me that it used to be a courthouse. The "cell" you went into beneath the shop was where they kept the cut flowers on stone slab tables to keep them fresh, and that was also where they made up flower arrangements and displays for weddings etc in a small workshop.
The pub next to the market bridge opposite the distillery was called "Turner's Vaults". It was a tiny pub one room only. The barrels were delivered from Bridge street above the pub and were stored above the bar room, there was a gravity beer feed pipes down to an array of brass beer taps. When I was younger it was possible to see the tap array from "Little Underbank". On the other side of the steps up to "Bridge Street" there was a wine merchant shop also called "Turner's" and was built into the bridge abutment. I believe there may have been arched storage areas built into the sandstone for keeping wine at a constant temperature behind the shop front.
My treat as a child was to watch the three men at "Winter's Jewellers" striking the hour and the quarter hours appearing to pull the bell ropes.
I believe also that there were finds made in some of the Underbank caves and evidence of a pre-historic nature found .
I did speak to you once in 2019 at Alderley edge after your West Mine tour. You are an industrial archaeologist you know.
I loved the little "fail" part. People who have not tried to squeeze tight fits in narrow openings down into the ground don't understand how mentally taxing it can be. But you gave a nice explanation, and view, for the viewers of that. Great stuff!
Cheers Carl, never felt so squeezed and trapped like that before
@@MartinZero Was a horrible watch. Really felt concerned for you.
You’d probably have to use just a rope to get through the narrow bit, then maybe once you were past it and could move out of the way the ladder could be slid in. Or possibly a rope/chain ladder could allow enough maneuverability to get past 🤔
Edit: should have watched further ‘til the “I know what we need to do” bit 😅
@@MartinZero I know the feeling, while exploring a mine I got stuck for a minute in a narrow mine shaft, while doing geological assaying, until my colleagues could pull me out.
Completely freaked me out.
For the others, never ever go exploring alone.
Maybe get a potholer to go down the shaft, they don't appear to get worried by tight spaces.
You two are awesome! Great show. My spider senses tingled when I read the title.
Thanks Martin, I lived in Stockport for 25 years & you're telling me stuff that I had no idea of - and there's no way that you were a fail. You wouldn't have got me down there at any price! 👍👍
When I see a notice that, Martin Zero has posted a video, my day suddenly gets better.
flipping heck, you should get out more, OR his vids are so bloody great.
@@outsidethepyramid oh, I do, I go out into the woods in my area and have found remains of old homesteads on top of the limestone bluffs in my area, just don’t have any caves and such to see like Martin goes into, it’s the history that goes back, way back further than here in my area, here in Missouri, USA, that, is what makes my day.
@@outsidethepyramid I LIKE THE HISTORY. The History that you know, and the history they buried. I'm in America.. So when he shows the map of Stockport and I see a "DISUSED GRAVEYARD"... So I look it up on Google Earth, no tombstones.. Parish church... And I realize... PEOPLE ARE WALKING ON THE BODIES.. They are under the sidewalk.. How did they not find that disrespectful? It is suppose to be a resting place. How can you rest when people are walking on your corpse? I don't understand. But it is history. The bible states the "dead" are sleeping. And people even 100 years ago believed dead are SLEEPING. Why would they encase them? Were they concerned in someone like me who... is interested in.... raising the dead? But if such a thought was to be the case.. Why there? That seems to me they were.. Maybe a little worried.. Casting out the dead... A Grave is a WOMB. A MATRIX. Envelopes. Develops. What you believe makes no difference. The more I see the location, the more I realize they were afraid. This is not about vandalism. They are containing it.
@@DiaryofaGrimReaper couldn't agree more. keep on rockin' dude!
@@outsidethepyramid I DO... AND TH-cam KEEPS BANNING ME. They don't like people who are Christians. They won't let me post my comment. They don't like it because they think it has to do with their Lucifer. It has NOTHING TO DO with their Lucifer, their satanism and devil worshipping are safe for now. It has to do with RAISINFG THE DEAD.. TH-cam really needs to mind their own business and stay out of my affairs, I am a trained GEMATRIA MASTER, I decode the Bible, and those Luciferians are really getting on my last nerve all Satanists think they can't be touched. I'll try it this way.
Parish means to die. To expire.
Parish Church in Jewish Gematria equals: 550
Formed Stones in Jewish Gematria equals: 550
The Reason I Cant Die in Jewish Gematria equals: 550
The Skeleton Of God in Jewish Gematria equals: 550
Contagious in Jewish Gematria equals: 550
What a wonderful old building Winters is. I do hope that they restore the old clock as well, it would be wonderful to see it running. Regarding the shaft, my first thought was that it may be a well, until you mentioned that it was for barrels. Great video Martin.
Yes regarding the shaft...I would go with that Graham...it looked a bit cramped for passing beer kegs etc down....
I will definitely try and do an update Graham
One thing I just remembered about this area. There was once a club in the 60s called "The Sinking Ship" it was partially in one of the underground "caves" and Hendrix performed there when he came to perform at Granada Studios.
Ah.. I just wrote a similar comment, so the Hendrix story is true.. Brilliant.
Wow
In the past month a large painted mural to Hendrix has gone up in Stockport with some debate over its credibility based on his visit
It wasn't a fail Martin . . . it was honesty in filming. Much appreciated 👍.
Another great video from Mr Zero and james ☺️ 🤚 that shop frontage when fully operational, must of been a work of art in itself. Some great history shown to us all 🤟🏼✊🏼
Another great video! Loved the wig presentation, ha!! The shops looked wonderful, along with the streets and steps. Sorta place I wouldn't mind living in. I totally agree with the ladder sequence, scary, scary, scary!! Thank you for sharing another lovely part of your land! Cheers!!
I spotted you in Stockport the other day, I was playing in the sand pit……with my kids (that’s my excuse) and you walked past. Gutted I’d have loved a selfie the lads at work think your great, I think you’re ok 😂. Keep up the good work pal, really enjoy your videos 👍.
Oh yes I remember the sand pit. We were filming some of this stuff that day. Should of shouted us. Give my regards to the lads at work. Tell em they are great.......your ok ish 😀👍
Martin's videos are a panacea for the world today. 👍
Spent a lot of time in Stockport and had no idea that these existed, very intriguing
Really enjoyed this video, the sandstone caves where great to see. Thanks for showing the shaft to the pub. You didn't fail sometimes there is an obstacle that stops us doing something. Keep up the good work. Take care.
Thai take away that was delicious......up to bed .....with cup of tea in one hand ....wifey in the other.. shes sleeping like a princess......earphones in .....what more !....martin thanks for the bank holiday episode speak soon regards rob x
James coming further out of his shell - talking on camera. Couldn't look at the screen when you were almost trapped down the chute.
Absolutely wonderful 💕. Si many memories of Stockport as a child and teenager. So glad they are doing up the Underbanks area. And OMG, seeing the clock made me feel old - sad to see it in its current state but so happy it’s all being restored. A family-thing used to be for us to be taken around to see the chimes by my mum and Nana. I can still hear those bells/chimes in my head. For some reason I remember each of the figures as being terrifying when they moved 😂. That’s a wonderful video and so glad you showed us the shaft - there’s always next time, and I’m so glad you chose to be safe/call-it instead of doing something daft just because of filming. A taster for next time … 💕⭐️
That was fantastic thanks. That wasn’t a fail how you got so far surprised me in was heart in the mouth stuff. Some beautiful olde stuff. The history was just awesome. Thank you so much for taking me along. Please stay safe and take care
Another fascinating & informative video. Not a fail at all & I am glad you left it in. It demonstrates the potential dangers that you get into to provide us armchair viewers with entertainment which gives mainstream tv a good run for its money. Thanks. Phil.
Thanks for the video lads beautiful old clock shop glad to see this being restored back to its natural look. Martin your a brave man trying to get in that hole I was getting the ebygeaves or something like that just watching 👀 😅. Stockport definitely is well worth a look!!😎🐓🐓🐓🐓🇬🇧
I got claustrophobic just watching you go down that narrow shaft. I can imagine how that claustrophobic panic feeling creeps on you down there. 👍👍👍👍😁😁😁😁
Mini panic? Nah, just your instincts warning you that this is a bad idea. Listen to your instincts. Another nice video. Good Luck, Rick
Wow! Love the jewellery shop! Loved the. Whole video! Keep coming with the history of the city and old buildings. It’s fascinating!
When I was a child in the 50/60’s my gran who lived in Heaton Mersey used to take me to Stockport to see the clock outside winter’s ,and to the market.🙂…and from her back garden we could hear the steam trains going along👍
Hi Martin, Yeah the weights were deffo for the clock, I went in there when the wine bar was open and the bloke was just going to wind the clock (which I had loved since I was a kid taken to the the "hasty tasty" chippy by my mum) . I asked if I could wind the clock and he let me, its was REALLY hard to wind those weights to the upstairs (all the punters were giggling at me) but I did it it! possibly my finest hour!
Really enjoyed this film martin and the shop frontage was originally an absolute work of art, love the underbank section of the town and the old market is great too ! Great explore 🔴🟡🟢❣
As always amazing so do look forward to your Videos History and ADVENTURE thank you for taking us along 😁😁👍👍
Kudos to Martin for getting down that shaft! I fully understand the panic raising when you cannot move your arms and even hands anymore.
Great work Martin, a very interesting Tour. Thanks for all your input, maps & visuals helped greatly. Well put together.
Regards
Excellent 🐇 💝. 😽. 🔜. 🎵. We Grew UP On 🚨. My best Girlfriend worked in Winters for a while when it was a Pub. Got Brilliant Memories Thank You Martin. 💞. And remember 12 O Clock on Saturdays from the bridge looking at the Clockwork Figures as a child so good Like A Music. 🎶 Box 🎁
Marvelous Martin... you always fascinate my historical itch. Thanks Martin and James....
Thank you Guys, that was awesome historische buildings thank you so much for sharing. 🌹🙋🏻♀️🤗🤩😁👊🏻💪🏻 Roos
Brilliant video Martin 😁. I got stuck in the eaves of my dorma flat trying to remove old birds nests - so I understand your 'pain' in that shaft. Good to see the boy James back too.
Just found your channel, loving the Stockport videos, I grew up there, I remember Winter's Clocks when I was a kid it was a huge treat to hear them chiming on a Saturday when out shopping with my mum in the 1960's, I moved away nearly 40 years ago, I'm now wallowing in happy nostalgia 😊, thank you
Another great video, let’s hope you can get down the shaft one day
Fair play to the building firm trying to maintain the history of the buildings also, bravo 👏
Well my Sunday definitely just got better for sure! Love the maps because then I'll go onto google maps and earth and follow along.
I remember the sickly sweet smell of the brewery malting when I walked up Wellington Road South to the College. I also recall being fascinated by the "caves" cut into the sandstone of Dawe Bank where the bus station is now
Manchester and the surrounding areas are so fascinating! so much hidden history compared to any other cites
I bought my engagement ring in Winters in 1968.. beautiful building inside and out.
OMG Martin you nearly gave me heart attack going down that tiny shaft, usual high quality loved this one, just love it when you do old buildings and tunnels and river thanks Martin & James 😋😀😀
Thanks Debbie. Getting stuck was my nightmare
Brilliant video Martin! I hope you manage to get down that shaft another day. Good to see James get in front of the camera too.
Cheers David, yeah getting him doing bits
I used to work on Underbank in the 70s. Fabulous vlog 🙏
Thanks for this Martin. Bought my first house in Reddish (late 1970's) and did my 'Saturday' shopping in Stockport. Pub lunch and a pint was always on the menu. Great seeing Underbank again. There use to be an great second hand record shop just by the bridge there. Glad you never got stuck mate!
I'd never have got my frame through the hatch, never mind down that ladder - fair play to you Martin.
In the late 70's early 80's I was a Computer Engineer fixing kit at the Unicorn Brewery - I never knew that history existed around there. Thanks for bringing it to us.
The Bakers Vaults in Stockport has a further level below the cellar and a bricked up door way! The Landlord is quite keen to knock it down to see if it's a tunnel, it would be great if it is! Great clip as always fella!
As a former prison officer, I am always fascinated by dungeons and the like. I was not disappointed by the content, Martin. Also, well done for enduring the awful tunnel scenario. Nice quirky music, as well. Superb.🇯🇪
Erm This is Martin & James - Welcome to another video - James is your brew making co host. You worry too much martin - God loves a tryer! great video!
Another cracking video fellas, some amazing features in Stockport! The Jewellers / Clock Makers is fantastic, I so wish I could have seen that in it's prime. Here's hoping you do manage to revisit the shaft!
Who is sad enough to dislike this? The prep, all the map studies and the actual footage must take hours and hours. Always interesting and informative, thank you Martin.
A cracking video, interesting, and great background music.
That's not a fail - it's a tremendous endeavour. That shaft needs a remote camera because you need to see beyond the bend at the bottom. I love the old courthouse/dungeon but they only open it up to visitors a handful of times in the year. And I would love to establish the exact spot where the gibbet was on the London Road going south from Stockport. The Queen's Head pub is an interesting place in itself with - so they say - the world's smallest gent's loo and a haunted room :-) And most of the modern shopping centre is in effect a giant culvert of the River Mersey. All connoisseurs of Martin's videos love a good culvert.
I came back for a another look at this one 😀 cheers Rob
Worked on a refurbishment job on lower hillgate a couple of years ago unfortunately the previous owners had ripped out anything interesting apart from the roof which for a joiner like me and a lover of architecture and local history was amazing seeing the cuts and joints on the rafters amazing work all done by hand and held together with pegs until our engineer felt it needed massively over engineered steels fitted at least the council and preservation officer visited numerous times to sign work off
9:50 whose the miserable mare looking out the window above the out door cell 😱 giving me the heebie jeebies lol 😆 I love the fact you try to find quite spot to do intro, and I'm sitting here trying to watch with 8 kid's under 10 and a woman giving it large lol 😆 love your work and feel like i can now call you mate ☺ as always great watch thanks for sharing 👍😀
Great insight into Underbank. I used to drink in Winters when the clock was functioning. I have some photos of it from the inside, I drink in the Queens now. The redrock arches at the end were bricked up because the homeless were sleeping in them. That red rock goes as far as Alderely Edge (so I have been told). When the M60 was constructed, they used the red rock in the tarmac for the road resulting in a red road.
This is easily my favorite video so far. Seeing forgotten shafts like that, inside historic buildings...it's endlessly fascinating to me and I really, really appreciate not just your showing them but giving historical context. Like you, I wish I could shrink down and explore, just to see what's there, to see what somebody built in the past, something that was important.
Martin, your videos on Manchester’s secrets are second to none!
I’m spending two days in the city myself week after next, to coincide with the New Order concert over at Heaton Park, and I cannot wait to explore the ocean deep history with my own eyes.
Kudos for trying to descend that shaft! Looking forward to your next attempt...because you know you're going to wonder what's down there until you do (as am I!). Great vid, Martin. Actually makes me want to visit Stockport again (and I never thought I'd say that!)
Thanks, Yeah we definitely need to go back
All those different levels remind me so much of Edinburgh with it's buried bridges and streets. Highly recommend the Stockport air raid shelter tours too as a great way to see the extent of the red sandstone.
A place I have never been Mr Messy
@@MartinZero they took us round as kids at primary school(im from the local area and i learnt some stuff from this video about places ive walked past 100's of times) and the air raid shelters is a memory i'll long remember, they extinguish the lights for a bit and thats an unforgettable experience
Another awesome video. Love the intro music.
What an interesting and quirky area. Thank you for showing it to us Martin.
Thanks Stewart
walked the Underbanks many times Martin, always knew there was history but thanks for taking the lid off and diving in, great video, thank you 👍
Brilliant film Martin, this is one of your best. This is on par with your Medlock series, amazingly informative.
Failure? What Failure? That is just a teaser for later all being well.
I love the fact you bring us history most people just walk past each day without paying any interest in it.
Anyway keep up the amazing work. Thank you.
Surf guitar, architecture, mysterious shafts, and Martin and James being awesome and hilarious! I’m one happy camper! 😊
Martin - you are too tough on yourself! Your "go for it attitude," combined with your knowledge, curiosity and intelligence ALWAYS makes for good viewing. THANKS for sharing!
This has to be my favourite video of yours, I've been trying to get in the old court house but at night for ages. Bravo 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Don't call any attempted activity "a fail". Only a "first order test in preparation for success"! Challenge accepted. I love your videos. The tighter the spaces the better. Just avoid the stinky ones. (See what I did there?) You rock, Martin.
Imagine you’re coming out of the shower, and there’s Martin walking down the tunnel beneath you.
That was amazing. I wonder if the shaft could have been a well as both the distillery and the pub would need a good water supply. Thanks for showing the attempt to climb down - I don't suffer with claustrophobia but wouldn't have done what you did, it was certainly not a failure.
The shape of it really does look more like a well, than a delivery shaft of any kind.
Definitely a well. Is there any evidence of an alternative water supply???
Looking forward to this 👍
Have some of that red sandstone on a church over here in Ontario, Canada. Was shipped over here from somewhere over there back when it was built in 1897.
I didn't know about this! Where in Ontario is it located?
Awesome stuff again, most enjoyable. Nottingham is much the same with the red sandstone, and as such there are caves EVERYWHERE in the city centre with a few cave houses and the like still visible in the cliffs along (duh) Cliff Road in the old Broadmarsh (and Narrowmarsh) areas just outside the centre. In the same area (Lace Market), there is also the old courthouse (now the Gallaries of Justice) that has a lot of cells built into the sandstone as well. It also has one of the best old spelling mistakes on the outside with the words "County Goal" corrected to "County Gaol" above a doorway.
The building on the other side of the bridge on Underbank (currently boarded up and opposite the one with the shaft) is part of the Queen's Head and I was told that was the original 'Turner's Vaults'. If you go in the Queen's (aka The Turner's Vaults), the bar still has the taps on it that poured wine fed from barrels stored in it. The landlord gave my son and me a tour of the building one evening in spring 2022 and although it has been allowed to fall into disrepair, the vaulted ceilings are still visible and it's quite an impressive structure. It would be lovely if the owners, whether it be Stockport Council or Samuel Smiths, invested in what is essentially part of the locale's history.
Love the fail. Ha ha. I love my Stockport. :) I'm binge watching your videos by the way x
Far from being a failure, it was a true success for common sense. You found the shaft, you tried to explore it with what you had available, and realised you didn’t have the necessary equipment before it really went wrong, so you came out, with the intention of returning better prepared. That is a success story in my book and means I can look forward to part 2. A true failure would have involved specialist rescue services and the shaft being filled in as too dangerous for anyone to go down.
Great intro, the music sounds like 60's surf. "That Stinks" priceless.... Again great use of B&W photos, thanks. Will you be making down the shaft in the next video? Don't think of the shaft attempt as a failure, it was just a practice run to see what gear "kit" you'll need for next time....... Another GEM of a watch, thanks to you and the team for your time, work and posting. Stay safe, Stay strong.....
Thanks Mike. I will get back when I can
@@MartinZero Your the MAN.......
I never want your videos to end! Craving more adventures…
Hi Martin, great video.
Just read this about Royal Oak Yard.
'Named after a pub here called the Royal Oak in 1680. Caves cut into the red sandstone cliffs on the right were once used by tinsmiths'.
Martin, go make friends with a drainage company and ask to borrow their crawler. It's a tethered (so you don't lose it) cctv system for sewer inspections. It would be great to drop down that shift, plus will also stop me having a panic attack watching you getting stuck.
Great video once again!
Brilliant filming. You were brave trying to go down the shaft. So interesting. Thank you. Oat milk coffee James. Will need to. Try that sometime.
Get back there and get your arses down that hole! We all wanna see what is at the bottom! Great video, love these town exploration visits. 😀👍🏻👌🏻
As per normal a packed video, much to see and ponder.
Only stuff with a mammary gland can produce milk. And Milk bares no comparison to all the things they suddenly call milk.
In the first cell you have holes in the wall and a ledge on the right suggesting a bed of planks and poles.
Have to agree on the ladder idea, you need room for your knees. Having watched my Father shaking like a leaf a few feet off the ground on a ladder, I feared I'd be afflicted as well. By chance in my last two years at school I had the chance of Rock climbing and outdoor pursuits like Potholing so spent a lot of time in Yorkshire and the Lakes on hundreds of ladders of all sorts in wildly different places. It's best to practice squeezing horizontally first so can gauge the strength in your fingertips and big toe.
My work for thirty years was high up on the face of the UK's tallest buildings so again have climbed thousands of ladders, and been in many a tight squeeze and stuck many times. Squeezing on your own is not recommended. So I can feel your pain as tight squeezes are still the worst, but a high up bendy ladder in a gale comes a close second.
The slimmer amongst us and i'm not saying your fat more I'm thinner, could slide down that ladder no problem without using our legs and possibly adjusting its position halfway down, but getting out is difficult at that angle as there is little room to bend your leg so you can push yourself up. It's possible the journey was done in two sections if at all by anyone unless by rope. It's built like a well shaft but looks a bit like a flue as there is much blackness, or are they recycled bricks as flues seem to be everywhere. Fasten camera to ladder to get a quick look and see if it's worth all the bother of going back.
Interesting video Martin and some nice music. I suppose you noticed the rags (from the sewer) hanging on the trees at the storm sewage outfall. Nice. Don’t worry about the fail. I used to crawl through some very tight culverts when I worked for Bolton Metro Main Drainage. In those days I was a skinny and bendy 24 year old. Couldn’t do it now. Bowsons chair and a tripod with a winch is required. 👍👍👍
Can’t believe you even tried to get down that hole I was very nervous watching you. A huge thumbs up for trying 👍👍
Never known it to be called Underbanks with an S on the end.
Suggestion about Hempshaw bank might also fit with the brewery being where it is.
Well done on just trying to get down that shaft.
Little Underbank and Great Underbank, hence the UnderbankS
Great video! I never realised that Stockport was such an interesting place. I wish that shop front mechanism was still working. I'd love to see that.
Wow ... had no idea about all that history lurking in Stockport. Thanks for this Martin and James. Yet another goodun!
Oh and I didn't see that as a fail at all. Love that you showed it anyway .... and we could all see once you were down there that the angle and everything meant that there was no way it was happening with the ladder. Bloody well done for giving it a go however!
15:40 Dysons Jewellers in Leeds on Briggate had a similar mechanism that would wind down the shop front into the basement.
Brilliant, I loved it. You woudln't catch me going down that ladder so you did quite well. Thank you
Great video Martin. Don't forget people were allot smaller back then. J.R. from Massachusetts.
Great vid of my birth town!
Surprising how little of it I knew thanks chaps 👍🏼👍🏼
Fantastic video, from beginning to end! The music, cinematography, Tea break, getting in all the nooks and crannies. The total experience of a Martin Zero production. :) Glad to see James is doing well, taking part in narration even ! Thanks for showing us all the layers of history within the U.K. , Bravo !
Your music sounds so 1980s British New Wave, very cool. Hobbit door! Life was a lot more real and rough back then, and may yet be again soon. Really liked this vid, you gave it a good try in the shaft
Thanks Martin for another great vlog and as a jeweller myself I found the old shop amazing. Take care and all the best. Stevie
Thanks Martin. Very interesting and close to home this one for me being from South Manchester
Thanks for taking us to this place Martin. My Father lived in the area after moving from Gorton in the 1930s and I have some drawings he did of Little Underbank and around the market/church area at that time. I've not actually walked in the centre of Stockport so I found it fascinating. The old shops and the hidden steps..brilliant. Was gritting my teeth though when you were trying to squeeze through that hole, didn't do my claustrophobia any good at all 😅💖
Thinks Martin for the history of the place and thinks for the effort to go down that well it was to tight i could not fit in that place at all.
Cracking video Martin... But oat milk? I'm shocked. It's a real body blow. That's one step away from becoming a soyboy. :O)
A super interesting and entertaining film, with great presentation, thankyou gentlemen
I really hope you get back down that shaft, absolutely fascinating