Industrial tramways and Tunnels
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- In this video we go looking for an old industrial Tramway. The tramway served the Outwood Colliery and took coal to the Manchester , Bury, Bolton Canal. It ran under a road and through a small tunnel. We also have a tea break during the video. The tramway took coal in tubs to a loading wharf on the canal. All now long since abandoned. We start at the Ringley road disused railway station and follow the Industrial tramway to the now disused canal. Looking for historical clues along the way. We follow the tramway using old ordnance survey maps. The tramway goes down an inclined plane. We end up in Ringley woods on an old victorian bottle dump. We find a strange tunnel with a water flow coming out. By the river Irwell. Finally we end our journey at an abandoned canal lock. This is an urbex historical documentary about the last part of the industrial revolution and Victorian industry along the Irwell valley.
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What a great video Martin. Loved the speech at the end about wanting to go back to when the the lock was in its heyday. Those who have been forgotten, you bring to mind again (and honour) through your investigations.
Many thanks to you and the guys.
And this is the great thing with TH-cam, real people making really great content, brilliant informative video, that little tramway pass under was a brilliant find, thanks for showing us your special neck of the woods, cheers.
Thank you, Martin, Danny and James for a lovely “day out“, I’m nearly 80 years old and I can remember trips on the canal just like you described, I never had an egg tea so can’t help you with that one.
You have a lovely style, so relaxed and informative, you don’t often see a group of people, getting so much enjoyment from really, very little, keep up the good work!
I liked the ending about going back and seeing the canal and having an egg tea. looking forward to seeing inside the tunnel.
Agree. That was from the heart.
I thought the ending was very well done. Genuinely looking forward to the next one.
@@hughchadderton3124 Took me on a bit of a journey as well, to an unreachable sunny place in the past.
I thought that the music choices in this video really added to the atmosphere, especially the Rhodes Lock section.
I research before I go out for videos, here in Australia, and I get the same excitement when I find things that confirm I'm walking into history. Good job Martin.
Graham makes brilliant videos of lookouts and waterfalls in the Blue Mountains area West of Sydney NSW.
There is one video of interest it’s of the old switch back railway line and tunnel at Glenbrook to Lapstone well worth the view
Again, another outstanding intro. The split maps and the old B&W photos are such a help in understanding the story, thanks. If that little tunnel under the road could speak, the stories it could tell... Glad you included a image of the Veno's signage. The way you read a story to add to your story is enjoyable, like getting a glimpse into the past through another set of eyes. Your narration about wanting to travel to the past was "outstanding." A big thanks to you and the A-Team for another GEM
Nice video in one of my haunting grounds, only down the Outwood trail yesterday. Unfortunatly the local councils in Bolton and in Bury are intent on spoiling what is left of the canal especially at the Bury end. Instead of investing in the area they plan to build right up to it at Elton in Bury and spoil the greenbelt, there is a campaign to stop it which I have signed myself. Just round the corner from the Nob end locks Bolton council are planning on building houses too where the old paper mill was which was flooded a few years ago on Boxing day, the evidence in the trees you shown on your video. They told me at Giants seat when united utilities eventually opened the gates at the ship canal the river went down like somebody had pulled the plug out. Chris
Hail to Martin, our Sunday evening saviour. 👍
Oh yesh!
Just got a hot coffee, all ready to go.....
Thanks I suspected there was something there . Thanks
Your end comments about sitting with James and Danny was so moving with the music. That was fantastic. Loved it. Didn’t want it to stop . Thank you so much.
Ooh, Martin,.... Egg tea, you've never had one? If it meant over there in Manchester, the same as it means over this side o't Penines, it's a poached egg laid on top of a hot, toasted and buttered crumpet. I occasionally make them even today. If you haven't tried one, you don't know what you're missing. They're even better served up for breakfast! Salt and pepper optional. Beverage of your own choice - ideally, tea, but coffee, or ale is perfectly acceptable.
It's how my Mother who I never met until a few years ago eats her Crumpets, and I was shocked as Jam was all I'd tried. I haven't tried it yet myself as the sweet version will always be my favourite. I would have called an Egg tea a Salad with eggs and no meat. My Mother puts Eggs and Bacon on Hot cross buns also.
Blimey Charlie, that sounds so good. I'm going to have to try that. I've just eaten, but that makes me feel hungry.
Sounds yummy going to have to try this
sound so good.
I will upset some of you all when I say I make them over here in Canada, but I add shredded cheddar cheese on top! Amazing lol
Those old maps are beautiful, Martin. Another really enjoyable film. Great feeling to them. They are elegaic but conjure up the vitality of Manchester past. Thanks.
I'd sooner watch this than flashy, jazzy 'factual docs' on the BBC, with flashy presenters and horrible intrusive 'music'.
At 28:00 I was excited to see what you filmed but did not describe. In the lock wall you were standing on you can see the pocket in the wall where the lock gates pivoted out of the way when open. Seconds later you showed the cast iron hinge mounts that held the gates to the side of the lock. That end of the pocket has a semi circular profile cut into the stone.
Two of my daughters and I just spent the last two days filming as much of the 2nd Welland Canal as we could here in Canada. That gate/hinge/curved stone feature is a great confirmation that you are looking at the remains of a stone lock.
Hopefully our video on the remains of the 2nd Welland Canal will be ready within the next month.
That last wistful speech summaries entirely why I watch this channel and never forget my history.
Youre a northern treasure, mate. So glad you do these films. Being a manc of 51 years, i remember old Manchester. You are doing fine work, and the viewership shows this.
Amazing, the history under our feet if we have we have the wit to look for it. Thanks Martin for taking us along on this explore.
Glad you mentioned Wet Earth, looking forward to the conclusion of that.
Great video. Wanting to go back to the days of "egg teas" and discuss your future adventures with your good friends had me nearly breaking up!
The tall light purple flowered plants that you see in these wet areas of disturbed ground are Himalayan Balsam. You should be wary of them as they have sap which can cause blisters if get it on your skin on a sunny day.
I once went on a walk following the disused Huddersfield narrow canal route filled in at many points with businesses and shops built on the route at Stalybridge and thought that I would never see it in use. It is now a thriving route for boaters and other towpath users. Just shows what can be achieved.
It's giant hogweed that causes blisters when exposed to the sun, Himalayan balsam is actually edible! www.foragingcoursecompany.co.uk/foraging-guide-himalayan-balsam en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heracleum_mantegazzianum. I did see giant hogweed there though, both it and balsam like damp places which being the old canal bottom makes sense!
Thanks Martin, great as always, loving the slower style, just getting better and better!!! Cheers!! Chris
I drive Ringley road everyday of my life and 5 minutes from here is a very secluded location well worth exploring .
As usual a first class presentation from Martin. Maps
What can I add that hasn't already been penned except to say, I loved it Martin, especially seeing Danny and James back for another explore.
Thank you guys.
These lost landscapes are superb. I cannot get over how idyllic the Irwell looks these days. Never looked like that in the 60s. Well produced, as usual, Martin. 🇯🇪
I do believe that was a bit of poetic license near the end and very nice too. Also what a fantastic find with the Victorian dump. I would have had a great time digging there!
Martin, these videos are becoming 'masterpieces' - thank you 😁
Good to see Danny back too 😎
Thank you Martin regards from Sweden
Great video again Martin. Big shout to James and Danny. Interesting finds on this, that tunnel under the road, incredible! Great use of old images too. I’m a big fan of them. 👍
Nice touch with the van and cameraman again!
Even though I lived on Outwood Road round the corner from the Ringley Road station site for most of the 70s, I’d never been in the areas you went, so it was particularly interesting for me!
I’d never heard of an egg tea before, but I do know that I fancy one! Maybe the guy below is right and it is a poached egg on a crumpet. If that’s the case, I’m in!
A cracking day out, Martin and top marks for the Stingray T-shirt!
It would be truly amazing if they ended up putting that canal back into service! Like you said, it would be a ton of work, but it would be worth it in the end :) And I'm sure Mr. Zero would take some wonderful photos and videos of the process ;) Anyway, I agree that you need to go back soon and see what is inside that little tunnel :)
Loving the intros to your videos Martin great music and visual with the kombie, good one man. From urban dic: Egg Tea Makes 1 Serving 1 tsp. loose leaf black tea or 1 black tea bag 1 cup water 1 egg or 1 egg yolk Sugar to taste Boil water. Add the tea leaves/tea bag to the water and let it steep for 5 minutes. While the tea is steeping, place the raw egg/egg yolk and sugar in the bottom of a teacup. Mix until frothy. Strain the tea leaves or remove the tea bags from the tea mixture.
Fantastic video! The whole area is full of history, so much to explore.
Liked the t shirt. 👏👍🙂
It was either Vera tonight or Martin.....
It's a no brainer!
Brilliant as ever 👍
Ahhh...my Sunday is now complete, mug of tea and another stunning video from Martin and the guys 👌👍🙂🐝
It’s crazy to see that in just 100 years, nature can completely reclaim huge areas of industrial infrastructure.
HI I LIVED UP OUT WOOD RD PRE 1966. over ringly rd if they are still there they built some large water tanks a bit like gasometers. there was a mine shaft there on that land and you could see the remnants of the frame and a wheel. on the outwood rd side there was a small golf course at the top of bullhill crecent i lived just off there and my dad was born there .there was a small wooded area nxt to the golf course and at the back of the houses going along the path and going left just of the golf course was some sort of brick works not as in a factory i never knew what it was but we wasnt allowed in and told there was shafts... i dont know if any of it is still there we moved back to bury in 1966 and i started senior school here instead..dont know if it helps.....
OOPS nearly forgot. part way down outwood rd on the left was a playing fields i think it was st georges but could be wrong we was told there was shafts right at the back of that fields i never ventured so cant verify what i was told..
One thing I'm always impressed with on these side-by-side maps is how long the field boundaries have existed for and how little they change.
Urban history made interesting. Thank you Martin you’re a legend
That was good I enjoyed this video I see you found an old venos sign amongst the under growth & an old track,I like the small Volkswagen & camera man on the Intro brilliant video Martin glad to see James & Danny ranks 👍
I think that’s a Commer van.
@@ACHowes yes..👍
@@ACHowes yeah it is
Its a commer space van😆😆
I’m a Canal man based on Leeds-Liverpool Canal (West), and would love to see the M&B Canal re-open. I love the history of out canals and I’m lucky to work with alongside the rich history we have in our country. That old picture of the old lock-keepers house is fabulous so well done lads keep up the great work you do 😎👍
Brilliant, thank you, I really prefer this type of your videos, this is what you do the best, and like others, look forward the next wet earth colliery installment.
I love these shows you do. I'm in the US but I feel I've got some kind of connection to these things somehow. It's kinda odd how the river water erodes the rock faster than some of these well built water pipes.
Great video Martin I just love all the History of the place and the side by side map at the beginning. With the old photo's you can really show how it's changed I was amazed that you found the bridge over the tram line. I was surprised it just wasn't just filled in and the road levelled after all these years. That tunnel you found has to be an explore very interesting just cut into the rock. So many great things in this video including tea time but with no biscuits I think we are all cutting out biscuits now after all the lockdown biscuits we have all had. See you in the next guys what a great team you make.
Brilliant video, I used to live on the hills overlooking the valley for the best part of 50 years and as kids and early teens I thought we had discovered everything but you keep finding things I had no idea existed, keep it up. I'm well into my seventies now but after watching this I'm tempted to go and rediscover the place.
Danny and James... see you in the next adventure of hidden history, while walking along side centuries of it everywhere.
Another great adventure. I wouldn't be surprised if the water channel through the red sandstone was dug by James Brindley and may be a secondary washout tunnel from the Wet Earth feeder stream or maybe just a little brook that needed to be controlled. Many thanks again and Best Wishes Pete
The trouble they went to tunneling through the rock, and the pipework in the bottom suggests it might have been something else. If the pipe carried the water maybe the tunnel was for loading coal onto barges on the river? The tunnel seems quite straight and a steady gradient, so might be feasible (but I don't have local knowledge so just conjecture at this point). If only the rocks could talk.
@@AnthonyIlstonJones That sounds good.
Fascinating , I remember being awe struck by the tramways and tunnels around Blaenavon Iron works in Wales ,not till you look into them do you realise what an engineering master piece that they are and what a forgotten part of industrial history they have become , a tribute to the men who designed dug out and built them.
I'm about to watch this video so have no comments 🤣 (especially about egg crumpets) but I'm sure as usual it's gonna prove to be the best vlog in Manny this week .. I've saved up vids to watch in winter this season ..
Top One Martin .. .. LATER
Oh how weird I've been walking Bolton Salford Canal .. looking how the M60 goes over its disused section so to reopen it would cost a pretty penny .. yeh Clifton aqueduct near viaduct. Uncanny two canals met there once wow .. it's L&Y.R co. Or was
Thank Martin for bringing alive the days when Britain was the world’s powerhouse and workshop.
Amazing Martin you start on one adventure and find another that you have too go back for, the mind boggles at the amount of history that is in and around Manchester.
Nice one Team. Love this. I could spend my life exploring old tramways!
Absolutely wonderful, Martin, and can’t wait for you to go back and explore the rock-cut tunnel 😍 You have made me into someone who absolutely loves Wet Earth Colliery and I’ve learnt so much from your VLOGS and the books you recommended. The engineering and past life of the place is amazing. The thought of the people who built it all and worked there in those conditions underground (including children) is just amazing. I hope one day you’re able to do more on the Bridgewater Mines at Worsley - the words you read from the bronze monument about the working conditions for the children has always stayed with me. Would be fascinating to know how the face tunnels and the boat levels worked, how far they extended! Lovely video as always, Martin 😍
(And PS, ‘Egg Tea’ would likely be cups of tea with Egg ‘butties’ (likely cut into little triangles! 😂) … in the same way as we’d talk about a ‘Cream Tea’ today. And love the Stingray t-shirt BTW! 💗).
Amazing video like always thanks Martin thanks Danny thanks James 👍 👍 👍
Another fascinating video, full of interest and a glimpse of times gone by. I would join you on that canal trip if we all could. Thank you for a fantastic production.
Wow you found so much! The canal and wharf where my favorite, it'd be real cool to watch a narrowboat youtuber cruise through there with you in the future if they rebuild it. Just like the old days when they also used the canal for fun! I also liked the bottles a lot, its extremely cool to be able to read the language on a 110 year old artifact. Thank you for this update, and I wish you the best from Manitou Springs, Colorado!
Great idea showing map and satellite view to show where you are going. Really helps those of us who don't know the area. Keep up the great work!
Just wanted to say a big thank you for putting us onto Stockport amazing history we went for a nosey Saturday and had an amazing day out
Ahhh, Martin... and gents, so nice to see you all again, I'm right on your shoulders, enjoying another historical industrial video exploration. Cheers!,
Thank you Frank
Sounds really exciting the Victorians certainly knew how to enjoy themselves, or the ones that could afford to. It's so interesting to go on these hunts to find forgotten industrial history. At the moment I'm watching a Canadian TH-cam channel who are trying to find a mine entrance where their ancester worked and unfortunately died. It's been in four parts at the moment and they have found a few clues but not the mine entrance. It was bulldozed due to it being unsafe so that's not helping!! Anyway I'm sure there nearly there, if you are interested its called Joshua Alexander, and the videos looking for the Mine Parts 1-4 so far.
Wow, absolutely fantastic, egg teas brew ups. If only we could go back in time.
I have watched many of your vlogs Martin and they are all interesting but for me this one is one of the best for me as it covers different subjects over period of time but it is the historical research and how, in many cases how you have managed to locate places that are over 100 years old that makes is so very interesting. Another excellent video Martin, thank you so much for sharing.
Wonderful stuff.
Thunderbirds tee when. ;)
Take care guys.
We've said many times how we'd love to go back in time, Carl back as fireman on his beloved steam engines and me meeting or at least seeing the Brontes in Haworth 1840's!!- You said it so beautifully at the close. Love your videos, Martin.X
Hi Martin, James & Danny, what a fantastic look back into the past. I loved that little archway, hard to believe coal was transported through there. You most definitely have to go back to the tunnel with the brook, I'm dying to see where it goes. Thank you for sharing, much love. xx 💞
Very rewarding watching all these videos that you produce, Martin. Mr BBC, eat your heart out, don't you just wish that you could produce programs just like this ???
Thank you
Brilliant video as ever Martin and friends. I love your films, you beat tv documentaries hands down because you actually have a genuine fascination in the subjects that you cover. I always look forward to you posting a new video. All the best, Adam.
I love your channel! This content is so much more interesting than flashy abandoned buildings. All those pieces of history, untouched for hundreds of years..
Another great Vid guys! If your interested in old bottles, and old dumping grounds Clayton vale is absolutely amazing.
Keep up the good work Martin 👍
This one had a bit of everything Martin, a very complete programme. The aids you use really fit the style well; the maps, old photos and especially the music. Your thoughts on the egg tea were beautifully put too. Superb work gentlemen; interesting, entertaining, professional.👌
Thanks very much, hope your well 👍
Fascinating! The videos are immersive and makes me feel like I am there with you. Hunting history is always exciting to me and the way the material is presented makes it even more so. Thank you again!
Blimey! You gushed a bit by Rhodes Lock. Love the camera van on the intro!
I live on the edge of Outwood country park as it’s now called, in a house built for the mine workers, and spend a great deal of time down on the trail. My great grandfather was a miner in Outwood Colliery, having been brought here from Wales, as were many other miners. It’s fascinating looking at the history of this area and to think that I now live on what was once a coal mine!
Great explore as always! I love learning about the UK industrial history in this way!
I know that feeling so well, 'I want to go back there.....!' and see it alive, bustling, dirty, wide and beautiful. All of it 👌🏻
MZ (James &Danny) too of course. Great explore and James showing his developing scally side by his choice of Lonsdale (other brands are available) 😎. Brew making now a developing art from young pup James. MZ loved your gentler side starting to show through with your wistful thoughts on your future needs too at the Rhodes lock. Mellowing out, I wonder why 😜 cheers MZ &James, DougT in Mancs
Always love the atmosphere you make with your editing and music
Hey Martin and welcome back to another comment section.
This job turned up loads of treasure. I have found old bridge rail like that in old quarries up here . Loved the Tunnel proper result , your skill must be coming on to find that basin.
This episode made me spent over 30 Euros in Gerry Anderson's webshop, gotta have that shirt :D
As always, thanks for another great video Martin!
Greetings from Belgium
Yeah I must admit I have spent some money there as well 😀
It's amazing how all the borders and property lines are still the same 100's of years later keep up the amazing and continue unearthing forgotten history that formed that part of the world :-)
Another Sunday night sorted..... cheers Martin :)
Martin, you are a scholar and a poet. Your videos are as thought provoking as they are entertaining.
Martin oh to time travel and see what these places were once like, I would love to explore like that. Where we live I walk in the bush across the road and there is a man made water course through the bush, it was the outlet to a butter dairy factory from the early 1900s, which I am told was water powered and a tunnel behind the factory dug through the hill some bits can be seen of the outlet shute, it is on private property but very little info from the library and maps. The dairy factory back then supplied butter to Wales this info from a newspaper clipping in about 1910 to 1920 when a Welsh choir visited the town and they were taken to see the factory when it was operating, this is in New Zealand, anyways thank you again another interesting video
Another first class video; surprised just how much is left of the canal infrastructure. I imagine that egg teas comprised egg sandwiches with perhaps some cress and were possibly a luxury to most people.
Martin on a diet so he can fit down that hole from the other video 🤣
Thanks for another great video guys.
There is a Manchester, Bolton & Bury Canal Society who would welcome more funding. Some work has already been done at the Salford end, and the Prestolee Locks (near Little Lever) have been dug out.
Really enjoyed that.
I was going to say that I was only leaving a comment to appease the TH-cam algorithm gods, but then I realised that one of the reasons I enjoyed this so much was because the filming, direction and editing has come so far from your early days.
You make it look so easy that I didn't understand how your channel is simply getting better and better and better.
Initially I wanted to say it was good - and (because I was re-watching some of your earlier vids) it suddenly struck me that it was excellent.
Another lovely video, Martin. But for your new viewers ( and I think you want even more so you can get the magical 100K mark), why not introduce James and Danny at the start? Can't hurt. Keep up the great work!
Fantastic. Over 20 years since leaving Manchester, you take me right back!
Thank you for letting me come along on your quest. Enjoy watching your channel. 😎
Martin, yet another cracking video. Had me gripped. The quality of what you are putting together is really, really good. Thankyou!
Another nice example of history. The little wall in front of the Tunnel, I wonder if that was a wartime addition and it was used as a shelter? Almost looks like a blast wall. Interesting to find all the bottles. Wonder if they used rubbish to infill a section of the mine... Amazing to see just how much of the area has been reclaimed by mother nature. As you say, not such a bad thing. Great video as always.
Most of the canal was used as a landfill after closure. The whole stretch from Bolton to Little Lever is just one massive linear bottle dump.
Thanks Martin that was fantastic, head towards Little Lever, Radcliffe and Bury lots more of the canal is still intact. Take care and all the best. Stevie
Get to know the history of Manchester pretty well through your vlogs.
Another wonderful exploration! It's always such an amazing treat to be brought along, virtually, on adventures of discovery, with the intrepid crew! And I don't even have to pack boots.
I think that tunnel in the stone is a mine sough( drain) I look forward to a video featuring it👍 great vids martin and the team.
Another great video Martin, amazing what's still lying around to be found in the undergrowth after so many decades.
Ha. Nice one, Martin. I hoped you'd get round to this one. I too would like to go back and see this as a working area once more. Everywhere looks immaculate, and in some respects, was. However I suspect the reality might be different; but at least it would carry its own dignity, of a fashion. Those bloody trees! I'm sure the out of control growth of these weed trees is helping carbon offset; how trendy. It's a wonder no-one is claiming it was their good idea! I often roamed round there when my mum lived in Ringley, just atop the hills from Rhodes lock (it was Sergeants lane). I miss the area at times. Now, having at some time past, suggested just this urbex, and also Park Bridge, and these having been done, I wonder.....one of my other suggestions being Woodhead tunnel....could we be treated perhaps, to well, Woodhead tunnel a la Zero? Hmmm. Go get it Martin, the world is waiting! Thanks for posting this one, it it th spot. Cheers!
Love Team Zero! Great locations, great history and great fun! Perfect combination!
Quite often, rubbish tips were by the side of canals. Canal boats full of rubbish dumping detritus out of town! Same canal but down the side of Whit Lane, Salford, used to be a good place that we would dig for old bottles. In the late 60s I used to walk along that canal for miles. A lot of it was still in good condition and I went fishing there.