Manchester & Salford. Five MORE Historical survivors
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.พ. 2025
- In this video we visit five historical survivors in Manchester and Salford. Firstly we visit the town of Radcliffe and look at two Industrial weirs on the river Irwell. These weirs provided water to two goits. Hutchinsons Goit and Bealeys Goit that fed Bleach works and a Paper mill in the town. Secondly we look at an old pack horse bridge. the old Blackford bridge on the river Roch near the town of Bury. Then we go to Weaste in Salford to look at some salford corporation surviving tram tracks for the early 1900's. Off to castlefield in manchester to look at some Roman remains. Finally we look at an old water drinking well, possibly Georgian in Manchester city centre. This well was situated near the infamous Little Ireland and most certainly played a role in its history.
I’m glad that James is a mainstay in your videos now, it’s like when Dr. Who teamed up with Maryanne, it just works. Love your work
At some point before 1 June 1907 Bury council had claimed that half the old bridge was theirs - and demolished “their” half. The locals were upset because it was a right of way and they used it to get to the bleach works or to Radcliffe. They asked for it to be put back, but Bury council wasn’t admitting anything (or paying for it) and no other council wanted to pay up either, so it must have stayed demolished… (Bury Times 1/6/1907)
I deliver on Lower Chatham Street every day and I never knew about the well. Absolutely fascinating! I will be taking a look tomorrow. Thanks for sharing Martin.
I really enjoy these mini explores as much as the big ones, history is all arounds us and you help show the little signs from our past, wonderful Martin, well done to you and the guys.
When you said "lower Chatham Street" I shuddered, having lived in horrific student halls there for a year almost 25 years ago. Can't believe I walked past that well almost every day.
This sort of stuff is brilliant. Places you just walk by, literally under your feet, without knowing. Keep 'em coming! Love it.
This may not be the place to ask this, but as I can see your enthusiasm for Manchester gone by, and it's architecture, I wonder if you would be interested to have something my mother gave me, which is a scrapbook compiled by her father around 1910, consisting of about 50 newspaper articles talking about the buildings and parts of Manchester. the articles are all written by a Mr T Swindells, described as the author of a book entitled "Manchester Streets and Manchester Men". Some of the later articles are headed "Manchester of the Past", and are said to be specially written for the paper. Titles include such things as "The beauties of the sylvan district of Ancoats". I live in Haslingden, but could probably post it to you. My mother has no idea why her father compiled this book, which is self bound, with brown paper pages, and I did have a handwritten note with the book explaining that it was made around 1910 in my mothers curlicue script handwriting.
Let me know if you think it may be of interest to you.
Regards
Alan Partington
You might want to prompt Martin again if you haven't heard from him by now!
Not so much pieces of historic trivia as small nuggets of historical gold Martin. Many 🙏
12:10 Archimedes' screw The screw pump is the oldest positive displacement pump.The first records of a water screw, or screw pump, date back to Hellenistic Egypt before the 3rd century BC
Social History at its finest. Great work Martin!
Thanks Paul
Great to see the large weir and archimedes (arky-me-deez) screw, at Radcliffe. Also, the old pack horse route. We still have the Pack Horse pub in Royston, South Yorkshire. Our old pack horse bridge is above a long disused quarry, behind the Co-op car park.
Excellent to see the original tram depot clock tower kept. More developers should take note.
Caligula, Martin? Tut. Chuckle.
Lower Chatham Street well - fascinating.
Best of all, thanks for having a shave.👌 Let's not be going there again, okay?
How'd you know it wasn't pronounced "Are-kimmy-deeze"?
It's like the Radio Times should be the "Raddy-otto-meeze"! 😆
@@Aengus42 As a post-graduate qualified teacher of Functional English, Dyslexia specialist and 17 years experience has taught me, amongst other things, how to 'sound out' words to make them easier to pronounce.
@@quickclipsbyjmj No doubt.
But did that experience rob you of a sense of humour too?
I fear it may have done...
@@Aengus42 No. Not at all. You might have been joking, instead of extracting the urine. I couldn't take the risk. I thought it better to show the correct pronunciation for in case one of Martin's viewers wasn't sure how to say it.
So that must mean an Arch is actually an Ark.🤭🤭
Sunday with Martin, James, and five more bits of history… it’s a good day 😊
Edit: 5:01 Brilliant 😄
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Couldn't agree more, such a treat to sit down on a Sunday evening. And the five interesting things series is just a fab format.
You should do a video on Compstall, just over werneth low in Hyde - sandwiched between Tameside and Marple. It’s a mill town built by George Andrew in the early 19th century. One of the mills is still there and there’s a huge weir and plenty of industrial remains at the man made reservoirs that supplied the mills
i really like these ones you do like this Martin, as always good work chap, an many thanks for all your endless perseverance putting these together for us each week i do love a little bit of history on sunday, top marks :)
Thank you
Loved it. I visited Bealey's Goit some years ago and noticed (I think) that the sluice mechanism was made in Kilmarnock, so I contacted the museum there for further information. Loved the well and the bridge - not seen before. Often pass Weaste "tram depot" on my way to Weaste Cemetery, but had no idea that they only kept the front wall ! Many thanks Martin and James.
Well said Martin … I certainly appreciate the “trivia” you’re bringing light to … thank you 🙏
Thanks Nigel
Hi Martin. Great video, I've only just seen this for the first time. I live near the Old Blackford Bridge, it's behind my house. The oldest historical records for the bridge go back to the 1600s, which specifically say the current structure was repaired with funds from Manchester. So there's been a bridge there for at least 500 years, there must have been something there for quite a while before the 1600s repair. I suspect it might go back to the 1300s, it must have been wide enough to move cattle across, of course. As for the route to Bury, you are 100% right. This went down Lilyhill Street (think it was called 'Hollow Street' before that, you can see it on various old Lancashire maps), straight down over the old bridge. So the bridge was a fundamental part of the route between Manchester and Bury. Furthermore, an original section of the original Manchester/Bury path still exists not far from the bridge, it's a continuation of Hollow Street that you can walk down fairly easily, it's a now nameless narrow pathway tucked behind houses on my street, this must be an absolutely ancient route, if you think how old Bury is. You can join the path from the bottom of Highfield Lane, and if you follow it across Middleton Drive at the other end and down into the woods you'll end up at the Old Bridge. If you want any more information let me know, cheers.
Hi Martin, Hutchinson's goit supplied water to the East Lancashire Paper Mill in Radcliffe, where I worked as Mill Chemist. It fed into the 'city tea' lodge which was just alongside Church st. I remember the 'watermen' who looked after the lodges and goits that fed the mill. They would regularly clear the weeds from the goit - happy days !! Andy.
I am not from your area but I do love the Industrial and urban history of the British Isles, and your Anneka Rice impression, now to find the clue ;-)
Hi Martin, James and the crew. Some further trivia there is a capped off well in the Cruz101 club in the village. When the club first opened it was just an iron grid on top but as clubbers used it dump empty cans/bottles it was capped off with a solid capping. I am sure I can remember the Weaste tram/bus depot had opening doors on the frontage with Eccles road with tram rails running onto Eccles Road as well as on that side road. Also I am sure these double height doors were part of an attempted preservation order as they were ornate and metal? coated. Perhaps something to whet your curiosity. Cheers DougT in Mancs
Thanks for the info Doug, interesting about the well
Cracking little gems! That collapsed bridge was my fav and that well, how fascinating, you wouldn't want to lose your keys or phone down there! 😳😁
23:02, that's the mechanism to manually set the points. At every tram (not only back in the days but modern trams as well) all have an steel "stake" to switch the points. Sometimes because the automated switching fails, sometimes because they only can be hand switched. The old(er) systems around depots were all manual switches.
The rebuilt of the backwall of the depot was not only because of the new windows in it but also because backwalls of depots have a hidden feature in it. Those walls are build as "easy to break" - when a tramcar wouldn't stop in the depot, it would break through the wall/doors at the end instead of crashing into the wall. The wall was build in such way the bricks would come easily out of the wall, preventing the depot from collapsing if a tram would hit the backwall. A tram crashing into the street behind the depot would effect less casualties or damage than the collaps of the depot.
You beat me to this reply by 4 months. That'll teach me for not scrolling down before adding my own comment about the points 🤣 These switches look like they were single bladed too.
Great to see more tram track. The well looks like it has a cover as there is a straight line by hole 1. Also learned that the word Goight is not just an insult used in Red Dwarf.
Love Red Dwarf!!!!
Just love this history of Manchester thanks Martin and James
Awesome history but please stop running ! I'm knackered just watching 😜.
Come on time for some regional variety. Warrington, Widnes, StHelens and Runcorn still have some really interesting industrial heritage hiding in plain sight.
So glad you covered Bealeys weir, occasionally I’ve delivered to DHL opposite, when you exit and turn right you can’t miss the weir. When there’s little water going over, it’s a beautiful structure.
Loving your channel, excellent work
Another Smashed It production by Sir Martin.I love all your work,but this truly appealed to my imagination. As you walk through Angel Meadow.I literally see the hardworking people who lived and too often died young there. You know I hate romanticizing poverty so I think honoring all of this city’s past both rich and poor is critical.Too often today people think they have it bad.and ok there is more than some acknowledge,but your work honors this city l fondly say adopted me. When I walk into Salford my first time,a bloke from across the pond,due to your incredible work I shall feel a kinship. I know it is an old promise,but yes pints are on me mate, I shall be honored to meet you when l fly into Manchester sometime in 23,and I hope it is ok to say your work and friendship from afar have gotten me through a lot. Survivors Manchester based in Salford brought me back from a rough place,and your videos have been equally of my heart. Thank you Martin,,
Haven't even watched this yet, but I KNOW it's right down my alley! 😍
Cheers Adam
The metallic box next to the tramtrack are the box to shift the track i two directions. The tramdriver had a long stick with a "key" that fitted into the hole. When turning it he could make the track shift from side to side...
Another brilliant video Martin! You guys do Manchester and it’s storied history PROUD
Excellent Martin! All
Five!! I live near the old bridge and when I went for a walk down there I had funny looks from the residents in the houses, so
Put me off! Lol. Well done !!!
I like this guy. Enthusiasm! Passion! Knowledge!
Thank for posting this, I was born in Hope Hospital in Salford & lived in Eccles, when I was 5 we moved to Wales but still have Family on my dads side so go up now & then!
Spring Gardens and Fountain Street. Now I know where the names came from. Thanks Martin.
I gotta tell ya, I’ve been watching your channel for a while now. Came across it by TH-cam suggestions while looking at mine exploring channels . I use to live in Pennsylvania, now in Florida, and have been a history buff since I was in elementary school. Pennsylvania has a lot of historical buildings and mines. But compared to the UK it’s nothing. I love the way you explain the sites you visit, not just go there and say what it is and leave. Someday I would love to visit there and just tour the country, not for the ‘touristy’ places, but for the hidden architectural things. Thank you for showing the places you do, it really brings to light how old and beautiful your country is.
Fantastic guys, this is great. 15 mins walk from my home have walked some of this route.. Thanks guys. Being in a wheelchair I can't walk it anymore. Keep the trivia coming
At 16:48 I think you're describing a railway line. you can see the curve junction just above the road junction. That thing at 23:10 is most likely where they inserted the lever to change the points. A quick Google tells us concrete was invented around 7000BC. It'd be nice to drop a plumb line down that well.
I love these "trivia".
The interesting thing about the weaste depot tram tracks is what they were connected to. The tracks that you showed us turned into Hessle St which was the street behind the depot. There it split into two tracks which entered the building through two seperate doors. Immediately inside was a "traverser" which was a set of sliding tracks that slid in a recess in the floor. The tram would go onto the traverser and this slid along sideways to line up with one of nine "track lanes" in the garage. The tram then drove off on to its allocated lane. In the morning the trams would drive off through points at the front of the garage though one of two doors out onto Eccles new Rd. There are pictures of this traverser, Hessle St and a garage track plan in the book Salfords Tramwasys vol 2 by Edward Grey.
Love these little finds, thanks Martin, brilliant as always.
Cheers 😃
Happy New Year Martin and thanks for another very interesting video. I hope future generations watch and learn from your extensive research ☺
Thank you Dilwyn
I remember the old tram lines , was having a wander round there a while ago. Smashing video again Martin, cheers, Slurp
Excellent social history. It may be small but it's very important! 👍
Hi Martin, What a great series of videos, what was even more interesting to us was when you visited Blackford Bridge, where we live.. in fact more to the point , you showed a series of photos and in one of them photos, with the houses, in fact our house was in that photo, where could i get a copy of that photo. I’m not sure if you were aware but we found out that the demolished works buildings opposite from us did in fact used to be a bleach works, also it used to be a tannery, the houses we live in (in the photo) were originally built in 1842 and are addressed as ‘Old Bridge End’ and were of course, just off Manchester Old Road. Another snippet we were told was that the reason the bridge was half demolished was originally from an agreement between the Manchester Old road ran between Whitefield & Bury and it a boundary between the two areas, Bury and Whitefield agreed to demolish the old bridge, Bury did their part, but Whitefield decided not to complete their part, so hence it is half demolished.
Wow! Another great video. That well is amazing. Keep up the great work Martin.
Excellent historical snippets of Manchesters past. ❤️
I remember looking in the woods next to old blackford bridge and finding the old dye works along with a massive dump of bottles, some still with what looked like dye inside, its probably still all there!
just fabulous. great watching, brilliant.
Thanks Guys for taking me along with you today !
Hi Martin great video and greetings from Cornwall
Greetings to Cornwall
I'm really enjoying your videos. Great historic insights! I'm a Mancunian, born and bred hut haven't lived there for ages now. Presently living in South West France but planning a pilgrimage to visit some of the old sites you have kindly uncovered. Please keep this up.
Thank you very much.
Excellent vid as always,, tram tracks still visible on Bennet Street opposite Rostron avenue, leading into the old tram depot, which was the Olympic freight depot of Hyde Road.. keep posting the vids.. 👍
Martin. Excellent mate as ever and very interesting.
The wording on the points at Weaste that you couldn't clearly read, would most probably have read "Edgar Allan of Sheffield," the makers of many of the UK's tram track and points and the world's too for that matter.
And yes, that box next to the track with the unclear writing on it, would operate the points with a "points iron" or bar.
Fascinated by the well!
A triumph! Especially the authentic Roman footings. I love this format, Martin, well done.🇯🇪
Well done Martin. Loved this👏👏👏
And another great video buddy 👍 👏 👌 😀 thanks
I absolutely love industrial archeology and thar old fallen bridge is indescribably romantic, just the sort of thing Turner or any of the romantic painters would have used as inspiration. Great stuff.
Think I may start following these dudes.... never boring and, in my book, every day is a school day.... great information. Well thought out.... run, James, run... n get the tea on!
Really good Martin great watch
Martin, Another great video. Love the History of the U.K. Miss the Beard. Gave you an air of Authority and Wisdom. Your friend from Manchester, NH U.S.A
Hi Martin. Excellent, as usual. You are right. They are not TRIVIA - they are ESSENTAILS. So you can rename your excellent five historical survivors as Essentials. Cheers mate. Keep 'em coming and stay safe.
Another belter our kid.
Just found your channel.very good to watch.
The part of salford where you found the tram lines and said about the landslide, the actual place we used to call the lanny , short for the landslide. We used to play there as kids.
we lived at 325 great clowes street
Martin, your use of maps is great for the story, great work. A mistake on google earth, "I can't believe it." "Run James Run" priceless.... Little stories of historic trivia are just as important as the big stories or you could say "There is nothing trivial about history." Well well well Martin this was another great watch, and your narration is full of enthusiasm. Well, time to start the BBQ. Thanks to you and your team. How long do the batteries last in the torch?
That was just brilliant loving the old bridge and the well, really interesting along with the old black and white pictures and maps. I enjoy Sunday nights with these historical tours around the region. Stay safe and Happy New Year.
Thanks for another great video. Have a happy and healthy 2022.
Fantastic video Martin. Back in the 90s I used to pass Weaste tram depot regularly. Yes the front fascia is original. At the rear in yard, the tracks fanned out to enter the back of the depot. In later years I think it was being used for warehousing.
Thanks John yeah I remember the bus depot
@@MartinZero The Water well was also fascinating Martin. Reminded me of in Keith's book about the former 'Wishing Well Cafe' that had a water well in the corner. I was just born abit too late to have witnessed some of these gems in Manchester! ;-)
The Why's and The Weirs.... Sending love Martin, James and squad 🌼
Loved the bit about the well. Can't believe I walked past that several times a day for years when I worked in town. I've got a 1849 OS map of Gaythorne and it shows the Medlock still open curving round little Ireland, and Hulme St curving round the river where it meets Lower Chatham St. So that well would be very close to the bank of the river when it was culverted.
Very interesting and thank you for all your work. Blackford Bridge suggests that there was a ford across the river at one time. In 1906 a man died after falling from what was described as the ruins of the bridge. I assume that it wasn't maintained after the building of the present road as a turnpike in 1827. Another ruin in that area worth viewing ( if it's possible to get near), is the Mount Sion water pump in Radcliffe
I want to get to that RJ
@@MartinZero I'm a new convert to your website and despite the fact that I'd lived in Salford for the best part of 80 plus years and by word of mouth only heard of the places you have filmed and commentated on what a eye opener it's been! My Father born in 1914 told me that in his childhood he went to see the damage done by the landside in Higher Broughton and of the crowds of people it drew into into this very opulent area of the city.
Happy New Year Martin and James, I’m looking forward to watching many more of your most interesting and enjoyable explores in 2022.
Thanks Paul Happy new year
Hi Martin, thanks for the shout out 👍 glad you managed to do the goits/ weir in Radcliffe. Great video as always. Ste
No problem, thanks for the info
Thanks Martin, that's a good start into the new year. Well chosen snippets and good to see some related to previous clips. As usual, the old photographs and maps are brilliantly adding to the atmosphere as well as the music does. 👍
Thanks Thomas
1st class martin I'm watching this in a commercial boiler house while I'm waiting for a intermittent fault to show itself although I think I've found it ....I will see the rest tonight ... if i ever climb Into my crisp bed with my crisp filly x
Good luck with the fault finding
Keep these up Martin, five times as much history in one hit, superb👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Martin! Another first class video Thanks! Beloved and I were transfixed.
Thankyou! Fantastic as ever!
RUN JAMES RUN!!!!! Classic footage!!! Had us in stitches!!! Well done Martin....another brilliantly put together video capturing these little glimpses of our past. Love looking at the old maps !! Sundays with Martin Zero reminds of the days of Time Team with Tony Robinson. Cant give higher praise than that. All the best . Lee.
Thanks a lot for the very interesting video! I love the variety of history and heritage you have there! I really like little places like this where you can still see details of what was. Greetings from Germany! :-)
Fascinating stuff as always!! I was brought up in Walkden and spent many hours wondering through the beautiful architecture and history of Manchester. It would be great to see a video of the cathedral and it's history. My father is a tour guide there when it's open and he would be privileged to show you around and share with you the fascinating stories. Best wishes and keep the videos coming.
Brilliant Martin. Thank you. You tell the stories so well. Keep up the good work. 👍
Fantastic video 📹 and history of Manchester, and they wonder why people don't watch TV anymore. More please.
Glad you had a shave- you started to look like Techmoan's grandad 😲. Great video as always Martin - the well was the highlight for me as a real connection to the absolute poverty of the time.
I loved the Well
Fascinating, thankyou!
Good to see you back. Happy New Year from Bill the Mancunian in Western Australia.
Excellent. Absolutely fascinating as always.
12:01 Bealey’s Hydropower Archimedean Screw is interesting, great how we are making use of the head of water today.
Lovely tour again Martin, ps the goatee suits you sir 🥰
Thanks Martin a very interesting video as usual but you did make me smile when you were running down the embankment and James was running behind you with the camera you reminded me of Anneka Rice and treasure hunt years ago although sorry to say she had a nicer bub
I love the industrial heritage , the dank , gloomy , and gritty past
Loved this Martin always go to that weir in Radcliffe
Happy new year Martin! These tidbits are fascinating and I’m glad you documented them. I really like the weirs and the little goits, that sort of civil engineering lasting for so long, the history of what that water meant to the story of that area north of Manchester and the factories and the people that worked at them really makes you wonder.
Glad to see that they didn't take the makeup of the areas away as they were what made the industrial revolution possible and it put the great in great Britain,, brilliant video thanks for taking the time to put these things together for us to watch top job from Belfast Northern Ireland greatly appreciated ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️most cobbled streets away salvage yards one pound fifty each cobble
Thank you Cecil,
It's the small things that make up the big picture. These trivia artifacts are the pixels in it. Thanks for sharing !
Thanks for another great video. That well has me intrigued.
Hi. The small rectanglar box next to the points is where you can switch them from.(at about 23:20) A small par is inserted into the hole on top and you can switch it one way or the other. It is only the switch blabe on the side the box is on that moves. The wheel is pushed one way of the other by the front or back sides of the blade. on the opposite side, the wheel will be in the position to go up either side, but of course is set by the wheel width to follw the same as the other side.
Brilliant work Martin. Love the well. Told so many friends and family about your channel ( We all live in Manchester) they all watch your videos. The trap door in the Rochdale Canal, one of my favourite’s 🙂
Another good one. Thank you Martin.
Thanks you Martin for a nice video see you next week
Good work.