LUF Long Distance Water Supply
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ค. 2019
- Water transportation over long distances.
Example fields of application: Water supply for large fires over long distances, In case of floodings to remove water, drinking water supply...
Basic set-up:
Two oil-hydraulically operated floating pumps are set down in the water and transport approx. 11,000 litres of water per minute (per floating pump approx. 5,500 litres of water per minute) at 2.5 bar over a distance of up to 60 metres to a booster pump on the mainland. The booster pump transports these 11,000 litres of water per minute at 12 bar over a distance of 6 km in a Ø300 mm hose to its destination.
Configuration Options:
Configuration 1:
After the water transport with the first booster pump over 6km, as described in the basic set-up, a second booster pump can be used to transport the water even further. This means that 11,000 litres of water per minute can be supplied over a distance of 12 km.
Configuration 2:
It is also possible to connect two independent units of the pump container in parallel. This means that 4 oil-hydraulic floating pumps and 2 booster pumps are used, which means that 22,000 litres of water per minute can be transported over 6 km in two Ø300 mm hoses to the destination.
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This is for establishing a secondary or tertiary supply line for wildfires or large industrial fires. They will have all the manpower and time to do this if the situation becomes bad enough.
MrDK0010 but in case of a wildfire say the fire burns out of control they wouldn’t have time to grab the equipment and run away
This is smth you build up far, far outside the immediate danger zone.
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Funny how no one seems to understand that this system is not intended as a primary water source.
It is used when you need big amounts of water over long distances like industrial fires or bush fires.
We are talking 11000l/minute over a distance of 6km. Of course it is not built up in 2 minutes.
@wout kwanten 15-30 minutes plus an additional 15 min to fill up the hoses depends on the number of people you have available.
In germany we have a system that is more efficient and faster. Just look for Hytrans Fire System (HFS)
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Is this not in Germany?
@@Luke-no3dg when I saw it right it is austria
@@1999Cheker Yes it is Austria. In some scenes you can see the name of the city. I looked it up and "Rankweil" (the city) is located in Austria.
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Tfw you like a good comment on a video you’ve watched before and you realise it’s you who made the comment,
Its like the old "Soupa Pumpah" from FDNY, only more soupah! Gonna have to be sick on hose testing day!
California watching this:👁👄👁
i was thinking the same thing that we should have one of each of this full set up in the rural town for when fires happen
While watching this I realized that I’ve fallen too far into the depths of TH-cam.
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@@hareshgohil6977 I agree
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Sweet system and when I saw the title I immediately thought they better have enough hose in there to get the supply to where they need it and now I see that they have. They know what they’re doing hopefully they do. Interesting to see how they do it.
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Thanks for remember my child hood days.
Both comical and fascinating at the same time.
Neat equipment!
Really cool!
Awesome equipment.
For those people trying to criticize it without looking further, this system is for long operations requiring lots of water. For example industrials fires, warehouse fires, forest fires also. THIS IS NOT a primary water source, most of the time water from hydrants is used to tackle smaller fires so no they didn’t take long to get set up. Unless you guys have seen fire departments tackle big forest and industrial fires in minutes which I highly doubt.
Do not forget you can pump away water from a flooded area too!
This was just a werd flex by this fire department 😂😂😂😂😂
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Great show of teamwork
Nice equipament.
They look like ant, organization, teamwork. Awesome !!
Wow that’s pretty amazing
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I’ll deploy it, then putting in my two weeks, cause that’s how long it will take to put back in service.... Fight The Dragon Brother!!!!
actually it's done quite quickly with its modular layout ...
@lee rice nope, not really; Of course it's not as fast as simply deploying a hose from a hose cart or hose bay, but it's not like it would take hours to set the system up and get it going
@lee rice no-one stated that this would work for every location... however in fact many large industries are alongside or nearby rivers and canals, and also commercial and residential areas are often next to lakes, canals and rivers of all sizes. Within a 10 mile radius around my village there are 2 rivers and dozens of lakes, with several lakes already being within 1.5 miles ... and my area isn't quite dominted by lakes; There are some areas which are clearly dominted by lakes or canals throughout a greater area.
Btw there's the very same issue with long distance water supply when you take plain normal hoses and apparatus, often with multiple Portable Pump Vans / Trucks serving as booster
How many years does this take to clean up again?
What is the purpose with that system with the small pin in the middle with the connecting pin ??
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Yes i had to look up Liters to gallons (11,000 liters of water per minute) 2,905.?? Very Nice amount
I need one of these to water my lawn.
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There is actually something simmering in my area that collects rain water and then is loaded up and taken to farmers where there is a drought
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Work smarter, not harder. Pass on this setup. I can see this being viable in a very narrow set of instances of long term operation of exposure protection is required. Setup time is horrendous considering the results. But for a long term operation, having that output on unmanned equipment could be very beneficial.
" Setup time is horrendous considering the results" which result? Being able to flow large amounts of water with only one truck instead of numerous trucks on one line or running as shuttle. Of course this isn't what you use every day or once a week, but there are definetly scenarios where large capacity pumps are necessary ... not only large structure fires, but especially during floods. Guess that's why the German Federal Agency for Technical Relief came as mutual aid to the USA after Hurricane Katrina
It's definately worth the effort. German fire engines flow around 2000L per minute, so this system can supply around 5 engines. It'll take at least 5 engines to supply 1 engine over 2 km's. Basically, this thing does what 25 engines normally do. Simple maths: it takes time to set up, but compared to the alternative it's cheaper and easyer to set up. EDIT: I just now realised we are talking 12 km's, wich make the numbers even more ridiculous.
Love it. Also during that storm we needed help. But that’s also why the US has pumpers, tenders and tankers. But Germany’s fire Departments are a lot better then the USAs.
Very much a balance of justification for the investment and manpower need versus let it burn!
Amen Adrian. Unless this is something for long term use, i.e. temporary water main replacement, what benifit is it? That has to be 8" or better hose. How much water does it take to fill this let alone start water movement?
large structure fires are one scnearios of course, but also keep in mind that there are other scenarios where you have to be able to flow large amounts of water, e.g. floods; Try to empty a flooded area by using the average supply and attack hoses and the average pumps on Engines and Tankers ...
@@EnjoyFirefighting Hmmmm in 35yrs on the job we never had to do that. But makes sense!
@@Wa3ypx I know two century floods and several other sometimes severe floods; Some of them lead to mutual aid convoys which basically involved departments from the entire country; Also after hurricane Katrina, apparatus from the German Federal Agency for Technical Relief went to the USA with several high volume pumps trying to empty flooded boroughs; It sure isn't a common scenario happening every year, but when it's necessary I guess department and people are happy that they exist;
I've also seen a 1st person video from a Dutch FD responding to a structure fire in a warehouse; THey set up this kind of unit right from the beginning to have a great water supply from the nearby canal
I'm sure that little bridge was stupid money.
Would you like to drive a firetruck over that hose and possibly burst it?
Slightly over engineered, for sure. It's like they designed it with clearances for an F1 car's approach and departure angles, looks like their trucks could have driven over one made of railroad tie cribbing.
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The system is 14 million dollars.
How much is the little bridge?
$14,000.00
Throw in two...no like I'm paying for it.....
@@charliebingaman571 Carry the Car by muscles... that would be faster than that
It has to handle 30ton/62000lbs fire engines so it has to be tough. Plus it has to be safe. 150% of max load shouldn't be a problem for it.
thats what i call super team work
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1:21 that guy was looking like, "did I do it right"?
Impressive.
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That's some serious manpower there. I can't recall being on a department with that many Firefighters available on a shift.
many fire departments can roll up with some good manpower. In my home town they had a station crew of at least 21 fire-fighters at a 47 bay fire station. Many Engines at volunteer departments are staffed with a crew of 9. Last year I was able to film a full house response of 18 units responding at once ...
We have 7 stations in the county I work at we are lucky to get 5 guys on a county all call
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This system has been well thought out, but its not a fast deploy system. It's for a long time and distance water supply. Maybe for use after a earthquake or any long lasting disaster that could use all the water in a city supply. Its use is to augment a water system. I know around here it might look crazy ,but it's well designed.
California could use this or Lake Tahoe
'Feuerwehr Panzers!' I'm sure I wrote it wrong.
Interesting water pumping system, tracked water cannons and hose bridging system.
Blessings to firefighters the world over.
Giant hoses!!!!
What is the run time before needing to refuel? Say 50% power for x amount of hours like with forest fires where your at it for days and having trucks come and fill there water holds
Why do these informative videos have to have crap music
It's like the kind of music that plays when a crappy superhero is getting ready
Fuck you that music slaps
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about those ramps to drive over the black hose----those single safety pins in the middle of the connecting pins --how do they keep the pins from moving so they do not shake out of the ramp sections? why don't the big pins have a flange on one end, and the safety pin goes on the other end ?
I was wondering the same thing.
The pin locates in a central hole on the ramp
When you realize one of these would be priceless in california rn...
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Can you imagine being the probies having to repack that 12" (?) Black hose and the officer not telling them it was mechanized??? Seriously...can they justify the cost by how many times they will actually need it?
It's based on a stock truck chassis. And it might be a swappable bed. Also it's Germany.
there are some apparatus which are used like once in a decade but the equipment still HAS TO be provided for the case that sth happens. I know an Aerial in a German museum which never ever (!) went to an actual emergency call. In the city where I grew up the FD have a nitrogen vaporizer with an estimated call volume of 1 per year; In the town where I studied the chief told me "I've never seen that Pod Carrier on an actual emergency call before" after I filmed it responding to a fire call.
Night Fury Those are Austrian firefighters.
FDNY used to have something similar called the Superpumper system. I think the real use for this is a situation where the municipal water system goes down and you need to supply massive fire flows. Is it worth it? They think so.
@@Cthippo1 it definetly is; And while these systems can flow even more than the former SuperPumper, the FDNY runs a few of these things today as well
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That kink in the supply line is gonna cost them a ton of friction
they can still supply nozzles which can flow 14,000 gpm
Thats what the pump is for.
If only they had this in America
imagine learning there's a leak somewhere
We need that in California now
You need some other things FIRST !
Looks like a lot of hard but it looks like they know what they are doing
I think the fire would have burnt its self out bu the time they have it all rigged!
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Graham Scobell usually this kind of equipment would be used in big fires (which could last for days/weeks) without a large enough water supply near the fire. And it also works great if you need a lot of water for those water cannons.
They could use that system in parts of California
Carl Loar California has similar systems in use, although the Cal Fire usually uses fire retardant, fire lines, and air support to fight most wild fires, they have used very similar set ups for massive industrial firws
lee rice “long distance water supply” it’s not designed to go up a mountain, it’s a supply line. It’s designed to bring water along a long area that lacks a hydrant or a static source to draft off of, allowing firefighters to have water without using a shuttling system with drop tank and lots of tankers. Misusing a system for something it was never designed to do is no reason to write it off
lee rice no. No one ever said it was, is California one giant mountain? No. There are flatter areas and large roaming hills. Wild land tactics change between them. If I need to set up a forward supply location to fill up a helicopter to allow it to more effectively do it’s job, I can use a long supply line to do that. If we’re utilizing rolling pumpers I can set a fill point much closer to the location of attack, if we’re trying to hold the line at a series of houses, we can use multiple long supply lines and boost pumpers to set up 1 1/2 attack lines with combo nozzles and create a fog cover to keep the fire back. There’s tons of ways you can utilize a system like this, although I don’t expect someone who doesn’t fight fire to understand the massive utility a system like this could offer the teams in the fields. There’s no way in hell someone’s dragging this line anywhere, supply line weighs enough dry, trying to haul any more then 500 feet with multiple people becomes an extremely difficult task, hense the truck deployment method shown in the video, alleviating the need for someone to drag 10,000 feet + of supply line. This is quite obviously designed to be used to extend my water source not being water up a mountain.
lee rice fire equipment is pricy, always has been and always will be. The fire department I’m on just finished paying off a 1.2 million dollar 100 foot ladder truck, the tax payers pay for their own safety, how much their willing to fund us will directly affect our ability to keep you safe. You should talk to your local fire department and see if they have the money to keep up with what’s required of them, the personnel, or anything in general. Unless your in a large city everyone is understaffed, underfunded and under equipped. I’m a tax payer too and I know my taxes go to necessary equipment. Btw that truck costs less than a fire engine, so mr tax payer, would you rather help your state buy a new engine at the price of 750,000 dollars or buy one of these for 300,000? To be honest I think it’s pretty shit of you to say something like that, how would you feel if it was your house or your property and the fire department didn’t have something they needed, what if they have to wait 30+ minutes to get water because of the shuttle distance, your arrogance and misunderstanding of the fire service is astounding since you think your opinion means anything at all, instead of being useless waste of oxygen how about you actually volunteer and do something
We need acouple of these here in Australia
Are your guys wild fires still going on?
@@elizabethridenbaugh7731 hey... no they are out now witch is great.. alot of homes lost and wild life hurt or burnt alive and some live stock hurt as well
It has been around for about 35 years, so what are they waiting for........
Robert Chinnock they gotta start expanding their airplane fleet to fight fires, it looked to me like they lacked a bit on this.
Well .. Call the Dutch . . . :-)
Basically, it's a Dutch invention from the 70's and one of the main manufacturers is based in Holland (Hytrans).
Over here, every district has several of these standard hook-pods, which can also be transported by civil trucks like those of construction Cie's
Not only used for Industrial/Forest fires, but also for large normal fires, where the hydrant systems lacks capacity.
In most districts, there called by protocol in case of 'Large Fire' (3 pumps) or worse.
Typical deployment time from call to water approx 30mins
RIP to the guy that has to roll the whole thing back up
6 guys reloading in the back of truck
Aaron Vallejo huh
@@timothyshibu3098 just watch to end bud
there are hose recovery units on the modern pods like this
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It seems like a lot of work
That is some really severe duty pumper and hoses. Like those big industrial fire trucks with their 12 inch 8000 gpm hoses down near those Texas and Louisiana refineries. Would love to see the Huston fire department with those inundator tank robots.
Is this an 80's commercial?
Good technology
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надо было не пожарных заставлять собирать эту систему , а разработчиков . странно что реактивный ствол самоходный , а к фильтру на заборном рукаве никто не догадался приварить пару колес
From the lake they taketh, to the lake they giveth...
The best thing of this system is that you can work against gravity with out any pressure loss.
That was pretty awesome.
Да пока разложат всю эту конструкцию, тушить нечего будет
Реально, так медленно, мне кажется у них недавно был сончас, такие медленные и соные
Вы не поняли маленько, это плановая тренирова/профилактика по наполнению прудов водой во время засухи. Так как мелкие водоёмы высыхают изза отсутвия осадков таким образом в Германии пожарные части их заполняют
It’s all fun and games until it’s time to bed all that hose…..
So they need a winch for that? 8:30
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Strange how something can be so over engineered and under engineered at the same time. All the functionality of moving water seems to be fine but the setup is pretty hacked. No wheels on large metal pieces requiring multiple people to carry. No outside ridge on the ramps that would keep vehicles from slipping off. An entire 6" metal wedge piece made specially as an extra connection instead of just tapering the ramp to the ground. etc etc
It's made to be stowable. And no "outside ridge" will stop a vehicle from driving off the edge of a ramp.
Also remember, nobody knows on which terrain they have to use the bridge. Keeping it simple/flexible might be a advantage here.
The Hytrans Fire System already exists ...
HTFS: 3.000l/min @ 10bar & LUF: 11.000l/min @ 12bar... just a little difference ;)
@@danieldorr7517 sorry but the HFS HydroSub 1400 delivers 45000 lpm / 12 bar
Ouch... I didn’t even know that it exists. Shame over my head and thanks for the input. 😄👍
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California can use this for forest fires
In the Netherlands there are since 1998 more than 100 of similar systems in action. The purpose is to bring water over up to 3 kilometre for feeding firetrucks when needed. Every Safety Region (Kreis) has at least one of these units. See an excercise at : th-cam.com/video/7lqNZOsOrQM/w-d-xo.html
Whole city is on fire...
Next one who didn't understand when this water supply is used
What’s new some old hands may remember the hose layers A, F, S, in convoy from Morton In Marsh in case of war ,
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This seems so long winded that I'm unsure how useful it could possibly be.
Well I think Firetrucks with built in tanks would arrive to the scene first and immediately start putting out the fire while this system sets up and then it can take over for much longer, because it doesn’t have a small built in tank.
I want to tell you that if you have 2,5k litres on firetruck, you will be out of water like just in one minute or so
The great distance that the water is moved is what makes it useful. All the water in the world is useless if you can't put it on the fire.
i'm getting rid of that bloody chip pan, burned the kitchen again before the fire brigade got there.
Nossa que top que pais é isso?
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... soft hose for drafting????
No, semi submersible pumps in the water for drafting.
Ok....why
You set it up and by the time it’s set up the fire your putting out has gone out by it’s self
With the ramps to go over the hose definitely. Judging that it took like 3 minutes on the video, depending on how close the vehicle itself is, we're talking like 15-20 minutes set up time to pull everything out, carry it over, and bolt it in.
As someone else commented earlier. This is not for a small house fire. Its for something like a wild fire.
What was the point to remove container from the first vehicle?
you can grab equipment easily from a lower level ...
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Wow , that's really cool ,what country is this ? 👍😀🚒
system was invented in the Netherlands, but the video clips right here are from Austria
@@EnjoyFirefighting Oh ok I appreciate your response , thanks my friend !
How much does it cost
Does anyone understand how that safety pin helps?
Yes. It locates in a hole in a lug on the ramp to stop sideway movement either way
In my part of the USA, there’s no way the elected officials would ever allocate the funds for a very expensive, limited purpose vehicle that might be needed once or twice every 5 years.
and then there are situations where mutual aid responses from abroad (!) are necessary to deal with the events which hardly ever happen but definetly will at some time ...
Concerning your statement "very expensive, limited purpose vehicle" ... look closely at the video. It's a Pod Carrier / Roll-off container truck / hooklift truck: that equipment pod is special and purpose-built, but the truck can be used for dozens of different special equipment pods (containers), so this is far from limited purpose. It's not an entire truck built for only one purpose, but a carrier truck designed to handle all kinds of rarely used special equipment pods. They can range from Heavy Rescue to foam tanks, tanks with frozen carbondioxide and to nitrogen vaporizers, hazmat, decontamination, radiation protection, collapse rescue, crane equipment, basically any special operation you can think of
I'll bet CALIFORNIA is wishing they had at least one of these right now...
Do forget one point! It can be a supply hose line *to the fireplace* but it can be a *pump water from a flooded place* back into the river or sea too. Some hazard fire places are far away from water or broken supply hose lines build in earth or flooded places or repair/renew a channel or over flooded dams ...
It is use here on a fire apparatus but can do so many more.
What’s the point of putting the pin if the pole can still fall out the other end
The pins fall into a little bracket that is midline to each section. At 5:05 there is a decent view of the brackets. The smaller sections on the ends of the ramps do not seem to have the same bracket though. Which seems odd
Patrick m I see it thanks for the info
I love to know how they were able to draft with those soft hoses without them collapsing.
It looked like those were hydraulic operate pumps they floated out with the hoses.
@@kenmeinken8115 That is new to me, and something I haven't seen. I am use to seeing a hard suction hose hooked up to a pumper.
@@MatthewMello The units in the water are floating//semi-submursible waterpumps indeed.
@@MatthewMello I could use some hard suction
They are not sucking; the large machinery in the water are pumps (hydraulically powered via the two black lines connected to each) they force water into the soft tube
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Looks like a bigger version of the Dutch "GWT" system, which has a transport hose of 150mm over 3km and no fire robots.
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The "CONCEPT" is good. But in reality for larger departments such as The New York City Fire Department. This is unworkable.
The amount of time to assemble and deploy is extremely critical during a FAST MOVING FIRE.
I really love the HOSE BRIDGING EQUIPMENT.
Nice drama 👍
I want this.
It looked like the clouds were delivering a lot more water that day.