Golf Clash tips, Wind Guide 3.0 - How to play like Tommy
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 พ.ย. 2017
- Hey guys and gals,
Its finally out. Ive been trying to simplify the way Im adjusting for you. It all comes down to basic notes and refference spots. Its important to say that you always need to start somewere because the notes gets different depending on which clubs you have.
Consistency is the key. Play with the same clubs. Play the holes in the same way that you have always done etc.
I will late on make an addition to this guide with more advanced notes that I do take. Especially in tournament situations.
If you do have any questions, please make a comment below. - เกม
No rings, no ground zero, I adjust using my ears. Listening to the birds chirp, wind blowing water in pond, hear the breeze rustling the leaves....I personally like to hit perfect in the third highest chirp every other chirp 100% Good Luck
I enjoy watching you im happy i found you on youtube because back in september i was up to 300 trophies and the past two months ive unlocked two tours and now have 1622 and in the expert i was a rookie and moving up basically every week and since watching your videos it has given me some good advice thank you so much it really has helped me become even better with the practice
Just wanna say thank you so much your wind speed guide by line up the shot where you want it to go then turn arrow north helped me 100% your the best keep up the good work
Essentially this comes down to course knowledge, know where you want to hit the ball with what wind. I'm still a ring method guy though, but know which spots to hit are important, especially in shootouts.
Thx for sharing. Im pretty good at the original method when using the rings. You have helped me alot, thank you
Thanks Tommy very helpful courses continuation..👏👏👏🏆🏆🏆
This guide is helpful for person who actually knows the ring method. And the other thing is this need a lot of practice. If a person is playing to earn trophies he/she will never get enough time to make this calculation taking a reference point. Personally I would say so so much practice is required to master this, may be playing the same hole 5-6 time. I was expecting some kind of magical trick here, but it is logical and practice is what makes everything perfect.
Happy stroking tommy !!!
Thanks totally changed my game. Awesome info.
I find this very interesting Tommy because this is the path I was on while figuring out how to adjust for the wind on my own. Using this method I had a few par 3 holes I could come very close to an ace every time. Being new to the game I of course had some struggles and when looking up help came across the "ring system". Now I am wondering, maybe I was on the right track and will go back to this way, which I hadn't entirely abandoned.
People he knows what he is talking about. When you get to tour 6 you will not get far. I just started in tour 6 and went from 600 to 1000 in a matter of no time. Watch the other videos on wind speed and you will understand. This is what he does to to become very consistent. He is using reference points on the course to set up his shots so he can improve his future shots. He can adjust his for wind using "rings" . Good luck and thanks for all these great tutorials.
Thanks a lot for the kind Words Tom. Keep up the great work :)
Lol! What? I didn't understand that at all. I guess thats what makes him a top tier player.
this method is slightly confusing but i can see it working well in the tournaments since the winds are consistently the same. thanks for great tips!
Thank you. Youre welcome :)
I really like the idea of using the take shot button as a reference point when judging wind, I just find it a real pain trying to manipulate the aerial camera trying to get there and always seem to run super short on time. If the device lags, I miss out. Will try this... Thanks Tommy!!!
Can you explain more on the how your adjustments relate to the original target without wind? Maybe start with images showing the combined factors: how you determine ground zero; how the original landing spot corresponds with the ground zero; how you choose the number range for each ring; etc. Then how it all adds up to produce the intended end result might make it easier for understanding this new method, for a layperson especially. I assume these are some of the things you mean by not enough time in the video to explain, I totally appreciate all the time & effort you put in for these tutorials!
Hi Tommy. Random non-wind question since I saw it in the video. Do you know if the "Free Coins" button (I'm assuming it plays an ad) is only on Android? I play on iOS and I've never once seen it.
Those numbers just came from nowhere. It doesn't look like anyone understood any of this, including me
I'm so lost. Why is the yellow 8?
I just don't get it
Google "golf clash notebook". It has everything you need for this game. There is a wind chart creator where you enter your club and its level, you can enter all of your clubs to the same chart, then pick the power level based on the power level of the ball you use, and it will create a chart for each club. With max, mid, and min so you can adjust depending on how much of your club you're using.
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The 10 is where you would put the centre if the wind was blowing at 10mph, because the wind would move the ball closer to you as you are viewing this picture. Same with the 6 , the wind blowing at 6mph would not move the ball as much. The huge problem ,at least for me, is where to put the centre in the first place. But as he says you have to find it through trial and error and when you have found the spot (that you then need to remember) then you work on this system . The 8 ,by the way is simply the wind speed rounded up or down to the closest whole number. If wind is 7.7 , then he rounded centre to 8. I'm still crap at this game but I've only just found this vid so I'll see if I get better.
Glad I'm not the only one
I think I understand where you are coming from. I usually work a similar way using reference points for certain shots, especially the shoot-outs. I use the ring method but make extra adjustments depending on elevation of the shot/hole, its a method of fine tuning, again, especially in the shoot-outs. I think these are the main holes to concentrate on, aim for Birdie on the other holes and most times you will go for shoot-out, then this is where you need to win.
I love your videos you awesome
Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge Tommy i will practice step by step first start with small wind then strong wind hopefully I will learn in one week how to adjust the wind😀this my homework 😁😁
Do a tutorial on short iron wind shorts and chips as they are very different than drives and wood shots as far as rings. I'm tour 8 now but playing 6-7 but I use the endbringer and have no prob w chips but in between shots some feed back would be great as wind doesn't effect the ball as much. Thanks! As I can get it close but would love to have better odds of sinking some of these shots
In the second picture your “ground zero” was the water. If you aimed there the ball would land in the rough. What adjustment are you making from that reference point?
Tommy you are a master
I know this video was from a long time ago but I've watched it multiple times and I don't understand what the point is. I'm at 2400+ atm and I've used the ring method since I started playing GC. I would like to understand what Tommy is trying to explain in order to better my game. Oh well...
Your videos have helped me to improve up to tour 7 but I do not understand this video about wind at all. Please help!
I feel like I'm having a stroke or something. The absolute lack of sense this made to me makes me feel insane.
How much does one bar on back stin take away any wind?
Thanks
I pretty much get Tommy here. Sounds a bit like people are expecting for a "shoot it right here with that club"... Won't work that way. I also use the ring as a reference and it works out different for everyone pretty much. Obviously there's no one correct way to do this either.When my clubs level up for example they change so I usually play pretty nice until the eventual upgrade of my trustee club and for a while I need to re-map it and play little off but eventually get better results since the club is better. So. When playing higher level you get almost all the time a shoot out unless you luck/unluck out and either player makes a mistake - most often by being over greedy on the tee shot of a par 4/5. From pretty much pro level on par 5s are usually boring birdie/par ties with a lot of playoffing. Now. You have what club ever you have (or prefer to use) and whatevet ball you usually play with (though it's less a factor all in all, not saying I don't have a favorite ball to play with). In simplicity you make a reference point you always start your aim from. Of course make the darn notes of what course/green you are playing and this of course takes some time. Now you just Screen cap your shots beforehand. The ref point can be anything really. Straight to the pin, egde of the rough, corner of a bunker and so on. I'm not going to explain all the details I have to it but it takes some work but you will get result. Main thing is that your references always stay the same. You can have a leftside and a rightside reference for example and you can have a bottom and a top reference. Obviously for the side winds and the up/down winds. Whether you like to run the ball or backspin it on some greens is up to you but you need to repeat the pattern. Nothing else changes all in all over the course of time except the wind will be different 90% of the time. At least amount of it. From you initial reference you start marking where the ball landed and how close at what wind. Not reading all the comments thing here most don't get Tommy is saying is you need to have an initial reference point from where to move the ring it self. For example I have some unmentioned green and I use middle bunker top corner as a ref. From there my club can carry close to the pin with full back spin at down wind 8. something (fine adjust witin the ring). You need to have this marked up although casually playing with thousands of repeats you start to remember this stuff by heart. Change to a different ball and your mapping restarts because major factor of the fact the wind resistance of one ball is different from other. That's why for myself I wouldn't switch from what I use to assumed better ball for tournaments either because it just ends up messing my references.All in all. There is no one solid right way of doing this. Usually mimicing your opponent is a bad reference unless they have pretty much exact same gear you have. All in all. Stating the obvious key points... -Try to make this as simple as you can with as few reference points as possible -Mark only perfect shots at the base referencing.-Downplay the variables as much as you can by settling from early on to the better clubs (I don't fully use myself what most people consider to be the best clubs but hey, I've played like for a week or two). Stick to one ball that you like the most. Over the time some specially early in the game like balls that have extra carry since their clubs aren't really delivering, I prefer accuracy and ball guide all except the driver which I like to just have a lot of carry with a regular unpowered shot. - Fine tuning comes over time if you are patient. Have a million on your cash account? Go to beginner level course and practise the mapping there until you win 9/10 shootouts. Proceed to the Asia Pacific and so on. Myself I started the mapping from pretty late on hating to end up getting beaten so often at the shoot outs even I had played overall better than the opponent in every way until it was the inevidable draw.- Getting the references into actual use will still have the element of visualization.Work work work... You can end up with a map of each green, what spot to exactly hit to on what wind and so on. Whatever works.Finally. How does this then over all benefit your normal approaching shots since you can end up in multiple places of play during a par 4/5 (unless you try always to end up playing from the same spot on... wink wink...)? Not as much but you have still a visualization from the playoff greens and wind and club used so you can actually at least have some fair touch to it. Obviously the distances are a major factor so don't scream at me if your left wind 50 ft approach doesn't act the same your left wind 200ft tee shot. Hope this helps...
Sorry Tommy but didn't get it. How do you know how I should choose the reference spot rock tree bunkers and so on . Like the edge of green your first spot?
Have posted the tutorial for the new golden tee
Hi Tommy. I just wonder if you could send me the Golf clash master list as on my screen the pictures of the rings is blacked out. Can't attach pictures unfortunately.
I don’t understand where the numbers on your diagrams came from. Also do you take club accuracy into your equation? When you switch clubs how do you determine the numbers on the rings? I am confused because I’m not seeing the strategy. I do see the value in reference markers after you have played the hole a few times. I do understand YOU have the feel but at Rookie level I just haven’t developed that yet plus my club accuracy keeps changes as I upgrade causing me to make more adjustments. Also how do you figure out on some holes you don’t adjust for the full wind or adjust for more than full wind? Sometimes I think I have adjusted perfect only to see that it was too much or not enough even though the wind per ring was followed perfectly. Sorry but I’m just not getting this concept. So frustrating 😩
It takes a ton of practice. Tommy is the Jordan Spieth of golf clash. Maybe if he would have used a screen capture of where he wants the ball to land vs where he is aiming it, it would be easier to understand. Basically, in the screen cap at 2:00, he has already moved his target into the wind to 8 (wind is 7.7). Notice how he aligns his screen and target with the wind pointing straight to it. Then he moves his target directly into the wind. He does the same thing at 5:00, using the creek as a reference. He moved his target spot directly into the wind and will let it steer the ball into his desired "ground zero" or landing spot. You can use the rings to estimate how much to move or a reference spot.
Yes, club accuracy is an issue you have to consider; the less accurate your clubs are, the more the wind affects ball flight. For instance, even on perfect shots the ball can land anywhere inside the yellow ring. Less accurate clubs have bigger rings. Hope this helps.
how do I get it so I can see the trajectory of shot
I'm going to apologize to Tommie right off the start because of all the info I put in this reply. I figured if the folks that didn't understand wanted to try this it may be helpful. I'm with the majority here. I do not understand this process. As someone mentioned, where do the numbers come from and does the club accuracy come into play? The ring method seems pretty straight forward. Someone posed a wind chart a while back that was pretty helpful to me. If you round using that chart it can be helpful. For example if your accuracy is 55% your ring value on the chart is going to be 1.9 mph per ring. So if it's 1.9, I go with 2 mph per ring. Using the base line of 100% accuracy equals 1 mph per ring. So if it's 75% accuracy The chart says it's going to be 1.5 mph per ring. I do not round 1.5 because you can pretty much eye what one and a half rings are. I started rounding because it was faster to calculate when trying to set up your shot and since the goal is to get close this works. Another example lets say the accuracy of your driver is 40%. The chart says 2,2 but if you just go with 2 mph per ring you will be just fine. the 0,2 difference isn't going to be a game breaker at least it hasn't been for me. All of this being said, I usually stop using the chart once I get below the long iron. Mainly because the closer you get to the hole the less the wind has an effect on your ball. In fact when I am on the fringe around the green I don't even pay attention to the wind as it usually doesn't effect the ball at all. The chart below isn't mine, it came from someone else. The first column is the accuracy of the club, the second column is the MPH per ring. The third row is the MPH from the middle of the center ring to the outer edge. I round this way. if the number after the point is 1, 2, or 3 I round down. If it is 4 5, or 6 I say it is half. Then 7,8 or 9 I would round up. The good news about this is you only have to remember 3 numbers. Your Driver, your wood and your long iron. After that you just have to get creative and go with how each club below those typically performs. The top 3 clubs are the most important in regards to the rings because they will get you in the most trouble if you are off. Especially the driver and the wood. As an example my Wood has an accuracy of 66%. The chart has 65 at 1.7. for me that is close enough for me to go with one and a half for each ring. So if the wind is 3 mph I move my shot by 2 rings in the opposite direction of the direction of the wind. This process seems to work pretty well. I just broke 2 million coins and can honestly say I struggled around 2 or 300k for a long time because I just could not figure out the wind. Once I got this system down and practiced with it I started winning more. Upgrading my wood to the Guardian helped a lot as well. Being able to just about stop on a dime when you give full backspin is really a nice thing to see. But this wind thing being perfected really made a difference for me.
0 3 15
10 2.8 14
15 2.7 13.5
20 2.6 13
25 2.5 12.5
30 2.4 12
35 2.3 11.5
40 2.2 11
45 2.1 10.5
50 2 10
55 1.9 9.5
60 1.8 9
65 1.7 8.5
70 1.6 8
75 1.5 7.5
80 1.4 7
85 1.3 6.5
90 1.2 6
95 1.1 5.5
100 1 5
Col Hogan are those wind and mph for all clubs or just a specific one?
Each club is going to be different. It all depends on the accuracy of the club. You need to get the wind ring chart and write down/ remember each club your playing with and what club each rings MPH is at. Thats the most basic way. It gets a little more difficult if you're at min distance/max distance cause your ball is not in the air as long with min. distance so your numbers will change a little.
I've been playing using your wind adjustment elevation Etc with simple shots like a sniper no elevation using the Rings to a T and still does not matter maybe it will work better if I get sponsored by golf Clash
It took me a minute but I get it. Folks, the way he is getting that middle number depends on what wind he is given. In the first example he gave, the wind was 7.8. He rounded up and made it 8. Then he adjusts for the wind. So, after he adjusted for the 7.8 wind, when he hits it perfect, the ball will land on that reference point he had marked as 8. The other 2 numbers, were just 2 more and 2 less than the 8 reference point to tell him if he hit it just great, the ball will land on either side of that 8 and still be in good position and land in fairway. Sorry if this is confusing, but I get it.
What are you talking about mate? What reference points are you on about? Mark them with an X so it is more clear. And waht are these numbers?
when you set a shot how do you adjust the ring which i am unable to do i have tried many times but my ball goes elsewhere pleaase help
Start with having a ground zero. Me my self dont use the rings in that way. I do find a spot to start adjust. From there I do adjust it up in the way I want to. I take a screenshot or I make a note for that. The result that comes from the shot is something to go from. Maybee you are to much left, then you need adjust your way to play for the next shot from that place.
Always improving your notes until you come to the place were you feel so comfortable with the situations.
Is there a way to download Notebook without having to pay for it?
you could do with a better mic tommy the sound is very low , great vid as allways :]
How do you set ground zero when there are an infinite number of different locations you can approach a green from, combined with the different possible combinations of wind? Shouldn't ground zero be the location you want your ball to land before adjusting for wind? Regardless of where you are shooting from & what the wind might be? And then adjust for wind from there? Or am I just not understanding how you are explaining it?
i guess you typically play every hole the same way so I dont think it is infinite
Right, off the tee for sure. But not every shot lands where you intend, so some, even if not many, of the shots afterward could end up in rough or bunker on accident. Then what, you have to map out ground zero for every possible wind scenario that is not where you planned? Just seems so much simpler to just use the ring method for any possible situation, to me anyway. I have a feeling I’m missing something here...
What happens if your lie is merely 5 feet from where you planned? That can make a huge difference in where the next shot needs to be adjusted for, especially in high tours.
Does anyone understand this?
How do you assume the 8 is the center of the target in the first example?
Is each ring worth 2?
Second example: how do you know the center of the target is 9? How do you know it’s +3 (12) for the top of the ring and -3 (6) for the bottom ring?
I’m SOOOO confused. o.O
I got a hole in one with the srat
He might as well be explaining how to defuse a nuclear bomb. Not a clue 🤯
I watched this and now I'm on a losing streak.
Be like Tommy.
I am really struggling with the wind.
I like this game very much but I am not win everytime i play i loose
Love this guy. But I don't get where he is coming from with this method.
I didn´t understand....=/
What??? The only thing I could see is he gave the center a number equal to the wind(rounded whole number)
Is anybody know how to get more coins or get best deals of coins plz
Volume on this is really low. Turned all the way up and still have to put the phone to my ear. Non of the other videos on youtube have this problem.
Thats weird. I listened to it and the audio seems fine :O
same for me...can not hear it.
Fine volume for me
volume is fine here also.
Please turn up Audio very hard to hear.
I possess an IQ of 128.. But can you try explaining this like I am age 2 ...so lost
@@ronwillson8716 No not online IQ test but the vid was definitely vague!
You really need to get the mic closer. This was so difficult to listen to.
I watched it a few times, but don't get it at all... get someone who is new to your system to explain it, you are too familiar with it to approach from a lower point of understanding, imho.
Sid Souvey its BS
I didnt understand what you were talking about. Been playing 3 years and I was lost
The game is not older then 2 years mate so thats impossible. But I do see your point, I recomend that you listen to this video instead. th-cam.com/video/1XcnK58U868/w-d-xo.html
what are you talking about?
Sorry that you didnt understand.
I imagine that he knows what he is doing, and he may be very good at wind adjustment, but the problem is - he is TERRIBLE at explaining how his system works.
For example, he never explains where those numbers come from. So how are we suppose to generate our own numbers when you don't explain how you arrived at those figures?
Next, in the actual game play, after he lines the target up to his reference point, he then moves the cursor to adjust for the wind ... But, again, he doesn't explain why he's moving it as far as he is moving it. It just appears to the viewer as a random amount of adjustment. I mean, how are we suppose duplicate what you are doing when you make no mention of why you are moving it as far as you move it?
Maybe in a wind guide 4.0 video you can improve your explanation of your system.
did anyone understand that ?sry maybe im stupid. :D
Sorry Tommy, can you be a bit clearer. I don't understand.
This is BS. Its ridiculous to even think that one can calculate club variance with different given wind speeds. Also, the app -- like all apps creats parity. Any shot can easily act differently to the .00000001 degree.
I don't understand a word he just said.
He’s not doing a very good job of explaining this. Show me your reference point. Which edge of the rough?
Lost me one this one.
What the heck are you talking about
Watched this twice and seriously don’t have a clue what you are going on about.
Sorry but I don't understand that at all
Wow just a bunch of incoherent babble
This method doesn't work. Eye ball it. And NO one wants to be like Skittle Boy Tommy
How you going to shot that in hole