ESP Syncro XT Loaded: What I loved and what I hated about this carp line
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- Full review of 1 year of fishing with Syncro XT Loaded : strength, casting, sinking and how it fishes.
✅ Watch next: No more tangles, twists or coils! 👉 • Mistakes That DESTROY ...
00:00 Introduction
00:28 Where I’ve tested the Syncro XT Loaded
01:20 Knot strength
05:03 Abrasion resistance
06:06 Line memory
10:31 How does it sink?
11:45 How does it cast?
12:41 Would I use this line again?
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The original Nash Bullet was my go to line. But it was discontinued before Nash released the new version, so I started using the ESP Syncro XT. I never had any trouble with a 5 turn grinner (once through the eye).
I have noticed that anglers who have said they experienced issues with the grinner knot, all say yes, when asked if they've passed the line through the eye twice.
When passing the line through the eye twice, no matter how carefully the knot is cinched down, the line crosses over and cuts itself on itself.
When Richard Walker came up with the grinner knot, he only passed the line through the eye of a hook once. It's all the line needs.
Great video as always 👌
The 5 turn grinner is always going to be weaker as it's choking the line the tighter it gets. A Palomar knot is much stronger as the line is doubled up.... I've never in 20 years of fishing seen a break at the knot with a Palomar and it's super easy to tie 👍
Hi Phillip, thanks for your input. We have cats to 125lbs so the knots come under extreme duress during the fight so we have Palomar knots fail occasionally. Interestingly enough I’ve found the blood knot and the tucked blood (both of which are strangle knots) have the ability to outperform the Palomar on my deadlift test. I do get failures on testing on all knots but then again it’s an extreme test. What’s shocking for me is just how many anglers' knots I break at just a few pounds of force as they haven't developed the habit of pulling their knots down really securely before fishing. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
As usual, helpful/educational and opens the mind to what I am doing.
Thank you very much mate 👍 It’s great that our work is making you think about what you do and how you go about your angling. That’s the aim of the channel really. All the best, Matt.
First...to comment on youtubes best carp fishing channel! Keep up the great work Matthew.
Hi mate, oh you’re quick off the mark today fella! Thanks very much for your amazing support man, every comment helps the channel. Cheers, Matt.
Great video Matt, good tip using sweat bands to keep the line moist👍.
Hi Louis, no problem, glad the you like the tip, hope it works for you too! Cheers, Matt.
Another quality video as always 👍
Thanks mate, much appreciated 😉
Great informative video, I tend to use palamar knot most of the time. I've used xt loaded for many years now it does twist but never hindered me in any way had a lot worse line for twist. Its abrasion resistance is amazing never had a crack off or snap in snags, which I fish locked up alot
Very rigorous test Matt, just goes to show recommended knots are not always best,
Love the sweat band trick,, been using that a while after you showed it in previous video,
Another top notch video,,
Thanks mate
Hi Scott, thanks as always for your support. I’m glad that you like the sweatband trick although I don’t find I need to use it much with the Nash Bullet as it behaves better. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt, great video as always, I’ve had 18lb Sincro XT on for a few months but have gone back to Korda Subline because of the exact reasons you’ve given.
Right, so you didn't get on with it either. I’ve never actually used Korda Subline although I’ve met a few guests that use it. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler I haven’t tried them all but I’ve yet to find anything better, suppose I should just stick with what I know works 😁
@@Steve-kg7wd Well, if the Subline does what you need then there’s no point it changing mate. The mainline you use should not make any difference as to whether you're catching or blanking. As long as it's strong and reliable and gets you out to where you need to be then it’s job done 👍
I can back up your comments reference Syncro XT’s high memory and coiling when dry. Particularly when using distance sticks, I’ve had some infuriating tangles lately when using sticks. Splendid video as usual.
Hi Dougie, thanks as always for commenting and I’m glad that you liked the video. It’s interesting that you had similar issues with the Syncro. I since swapped over to 20lbs 0.40 Nash bullet and I haven't had the same issues (even when dry) when using wrap sticks. Cheers, Matt.
Have used this line now for 18 months after using GR60 for 10 years and think it's got a slightly better edge.
Never looked at instructions about knots but always done my knots with a 4 turn grinner and never experienced a break in the 18lb.. Fishing very large weedy gravel pit in close and long range..
I have landed fish up to 56lb with it.
I always put new line on the spools every year and find it good practice to use distance sticks to feed and feel the line back onto the spoole for any damage that may have happened over fishing long range.
Hi Graham, thanks very much for sharing your experiences. I used to love the old GR60 myself. I’m glad that the ESP syncro is working for you. I'm not surprised that you banked big carp from a weedy water with this line and the knot held because even with a 3.5lb TC rod, your knot doesn't come under more than a few pounds of load during the fight. I’ve banked multiple mid 40s from weed infested French gravel pits on 10ft long 8lb mono hooklink. Obviously a 56lb carp is a large and powerful fish but we've got cats to 134lbs. They will literally pull your arms off lol. I wanted to demonstrate the level that we have to test our knots to bank these crazy creatures. At this level the ESP is not as strong as what it states on the box with a double grinner knot and that’s a problem for my customers, but that's a very specific situation. Cheers, Matt.
Went on…and came off within 6 trips for me! Hydrated or not I could not stop the twisting which drove me mad! Spooled back up with ‘Bullet’ again which isn’t a bad all rounder.
Yeah, so we've had similar experiences... I've moved to the Nash Bullet as well and although it’s not perfect (no mainline is) it ticks all the main boxes and I'll stick with it for the foreseeable future.
Ive been using it for about 5 years matt ,, i love the line, and never had any problems with it .good video 👍
Thanks for the feedback Chris and good to know that it’s working for you. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler sorry forgot to mention matt , ive been using the standard not the loaded,👍
@@CarpyChris1964 Right, thanks for that Chris, that's another vote for the standard then!
I've been using it for 2 years, and i like it. One of the better lines i've used i reckon. Did have some kinks but they became less and less over time. Just bought a new spool today haha.
@@xserik79 Hi mate, great to know that you have been getting on well with it. I have found that the 10lb version is much friendlier to fish with and seems to suffer less than the 18lb version from dry coiliness. The regular syncro XT (as opposed to the loaded version that I tested) seems to be very popular with the guys that have watched this video so that might be worth a look at. Cheers, Matt.
If I said this was fascinating I’d be described (quite rightly) as sad! But it’s a very valid testing and testimony to the pro’s and con’s. Thank you once again, you’re very fair in your appraisals.
Thanks very much 😊
Great review.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. Cheers, Matt.
The memory is bad on this line. I followed esp video on spooling up , used gardener twist doctor lead. But it still holds memory. The sweat band idea is brilliant. Top video. Well done matt👍
Thanks for the comment mate. So you've had troubles with it as well then. If you keep it moist then it handles and behaves very differently but this is not always easy to do. Cheers, Matt.
I’ve used it on two of my rods for a while now. I’ve only used a figure of eight loop in the line connected to my leader. I do have some issues with twist though as I’m terrible for not back winding as my reels are cheap. The other line I’ve been using is a Nash line that seems a little less supple, but does seem a little more abrasion resistant.
I’ve not used a line yet that does not get some twist and kinks, so I always strip off some line before every session. I never have my rods set up now, as that seems to kink the line easily. Totally agree with the need to moisten well.
Cool, thanks for sharing the info mate.
Great informative video
Hi Robert, thanks as always for your support mate. Cheers, Matt.
Went with some nash bullet after your recommendation earlier in the year. Not had a great deal of use but it’s been good in terms of knot strength and sink. Cant comment on abrasion as most places I’ve used it are silty with very few rocks etc.
Hi mate, OK cool, good to hear. If it goes a bit curly on you through casting, just cut off a few meters and you’re good to go. Cheers, Matt.
I Couldn't wait to swap it, coils were really bad, I use pallatrax gamma now when I get it or pb control, another great video 👍
Thanks for the feedback mate! Some many anglers with the same experience...
Really great video! much appreciated Content. i wish more videos like this one would be available. i find it really hard to get good information about fishing gear. most "reviews" are either sponsored or more of an unboxing than a long term review. i really hope you will provide more of these in depth videos in the future!
one thing im particular intrested in would be a review of the New Nash Bullet mono. i am considering getting a spool (0.37mm) for my fishing this year. last year i was using the Dream Tackle Dreamline in 0.38mm diameter and some Berkley BigGame (0.38mm) as well as the Daiwa Tournament SF (0.36mm). The BigGame yielded ok performance, the DreamTackle on the other hand was a little hit or miss. The Spool stated a breaking strenghts of around 12 KGs, in my testing the line reached between 8.5 to 10.5kgs. in my opinion to far off the stated values and also pretty inconsistent, so dont really want to buy from this manufacturer again.
The Daiwa line seemed to be the strongest by far, reaching its advertised breaking strength of 11.1 kg, and sometimes even higher, pretty regularly. especially when using the palomar knot. But its really stiff, even lower diameters like the 0.30, i used for pike fishing, rattled pretty rough thru my guides. so i just used to tie combi rigs...
By the way, all of these 3 lines are pretty close to their stated Diameters.
anyways... thanks again Matt for all your great videos! Hope you keep it up! and happy fishing this year!
Hi mate, thanks very much for the feedback, it’s really great to hear! It’s very interesting to hear about your experience with various lines… Funny you mention the Bullet as it’s the line that I started fishing with after the Syncro! I’m happy with it, it’s not perfect (no mainline is). It’s very very strong when tied to a leadless leader such as the Cling-on. It’s a bit hit and miss when knotted directly to a swivel so care is required. It’s low stretch which I like (Big Game can be rather spongy). The abrasion resistance of the Bullet is excellent and it sinks well too. The Bullet casts like a dream and that’s what its reputation was originally built upon. I’ve used the 20lbs, the 10lbs and the 12lbs. The 10lbs is a little delicate and can damage easily but it can be cast a very long way! The 20lbs is mega strong but with a decent technique I can still hit 100 yards which isn't bad for a thick line. I’m testing the 12lbs this winter to see how that goes. The 15lbs will be the go-to choice for many anglers for sure. The main downside to the Bullet is that it goes a bit curly under casting loads. The last 2m of line gets messed up fairly quickly. It’s no biggie and when it gets too bad I just cut back and re-tie. It’s a small price to pay for all its other attributes but I know some anglers might hate it. Hope that helps and we may do a full review on it in the future. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler sounds great! thanks for the reply, its really helped a lot. i cant wait to see the full review! :) i also experieced some curlyness with the daiwa line when put under high load. so i think maybe the daiwa line and the nash bullet are kinda similar... well maybe ill try it soon. not sure yet.
anyways thanks again matt, keep it up! :)
I unscrew the spools off my reels while there still stood up in the rod bag and drop them in a bucket of water the night before i go fishing to hydrate the line, then i know I'm sinking straight off the mark. Peace of mind and all that.
Six turn grinner and back through the top loop works for me.
I've used it the last two years and its been ok apart from ring wraps on casting which is a pain if I'm using pva bags , will be changing it in the new year as usual and probably trying something different , great review
Hi Richard, thanks very much for commenting and I’m glad that you liked my review. Since my year with the Syncro I’ve now moved over to the Nash Bullet and I’m very happy. It’s not perfect (no mainline is) and you’ll find yourself cutting off a few meters after a few sessions as it can go a bit “bongly” (technical term lol.) due to casting loads but it handles much better than the syncro and casts incredibly well. The 20lbs is super strong. I was that impressed with it, this winter I will be testing the 10lbs version here at my lake just to see how it stands up! All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler hello Matt have you done a review on the bullet, I haven't seen one but may have missed it😁
@@mitchwitt9944 Hi Mitch, no I haven’t done a full review of the Bullet yet! I’m very happy with it overall. It ticks a lot of boxes without having any big downsides. It casts well, has good knot strength and excellent abrasion resistance. The only thing against the Bullet is the fact that the last few metres go a bit curly due to casting loads. This doesn't bother me but I know anglers that would hate this. I just cut the offending section off every few days when I’m in session and it’s all nice and straight again. If you are using a shock leader then this isn't an issue. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks for the reply Matt, much appreciated 👍
Eye-opening and worrying re knots: I've used this in 12lb for barbel, and on a couple of occasions had Grinner-knotted swivel plus hooklength and big fish come off under pressure. It actually felt as if the knot were slowly pulling out. I've changed to another brand as I already tie with care and pull down hard, so no guarantee a knot won't let me down. Great videos, by the way.
Hi mate, learning to tie and tighten knots might seem really basic but week in week out I meet guys that haven't learnt how to do this right. We have catfish to 134lbs which is an entirely different level for any freshwater angler of course but the same rules apply. If you use the right knots with good materials and pull them down hard you’ll be fine. If you don’t you're in for a nasty surprise at some point.
I cover this in more detail in this video: th-cam.com/video/eAsQ3BPn6Jo/w-d-xo.html
Hi Matt, thank you for reminding me of the "small" details, if you'd like to call a strong knot a small detail...
I have watched this video several times and I am very grateful for it because it got me thinking about the right knot for the right line. Until now I have paid little attention to this. This knot works for mono, that one for braid, that's it. (that's a simplification, of course).
I tested some leftover line (I have a huge drawer full of it...) with different knots and what can I say. It really opened my eyes, as the breaking strain dropped to 50% or the knot even came undone (!) in some cases, for example when I used the (improved) clinch knot with very smooth mono line, which I honestly never expected.
I plan to tackle the problem scientifically over the winter. I have bought a very accurate spring balance with a drag pointer (Swiss made) that can measure up to 200N, which is about 45lbs.
With this I will test all the main lines and leaders I currently use for different (reasonable) knots. Let's see how it turns out...
I think it is a good investment. Losing fish because of wrong/bad knots is especially annoying. You spend a lot of money on more or less useful stuff, whereas this spring scale is certainly more useful than the hundredth fancy gadget with a huge brand logo on it...
Thank you once again for this valuable video!
Cheers, Alex
Dear Alex, thanks very much for your comments as always. It’s fantastic that you understand exactly what I’m getting at by doing the tests yourself. It really is shocking just how bad some line/knot combinations are. I’ve broken 20lb at just a few pounds of force when working with guests. Shocking really. The reason why I don’t use a spring balance to actually do the pull test is that when you get a failure the sudden release of force can damage the balance and make it less accurate. My original system was three buckets with different amounts of water in i.e. 10, 15, 20lbs! It was quick, cheap and effective. You can still use the balance to weigh the water accurately. If you do use water then I would suggest you do it outside or put a towel down. Water definitely splashes out from a bucket when you drop it lol. This winter I’m fishing with 10lb Nash bullet as my mainline as I was so impressed with the 20lb version. I can get 5kg + out of this when using a uni knot to a leadless leader. Something else I’ve learned is that tying a knot to a leadless leader is always stronger than tying to a swivel! I can get a pass at 3kg to a swivel easy but 5kg to a swivel is impossible! Have fun experimenting and if you learn anything then please let me know! Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Thanks Matt, for your detailed reply. I actually thought about the risk of damaging the spring scale but the manufacturer says, it is designed for tear tests in the industry/laboratories. That's why I spent more than 120€ for it. So I hope it can handle some tear tests... In case it needs to be re-calibrated (it can be done on this one, yet I do no not believe it is necessary for my purposes), I would send it to the manufacturer or some specified calibration laboratory. I work in quality assurance for an automotive supplier and I hope to have some general knowledge of testing methods that can help me here finding a proper empiric approach.
In some quick tests I have found that a specific line that has already been loaded to the maximum (e.g. line breaks at the knot), will break at around 50-60% of the original breaking strain in the subsequent test. And not necessarily at the knot, but at any point! In addition to that the line looked really, really terrible! In my view, this is clear evidence that heavily stressed line should be *always* shortened generously around the damaged area, as it has actually always been recommended by experienced anglers.
I'll keep you updated.
Cheers, Alex
@@herrjanssen8531 Hi Alex, ah that explains your attention to detail then! It’s great that you’ve invested in some proper kit! You will find that the tested line does go a bit weird. Some lines are worse than others. You need to make or buy a little attachment clip. I found a heavy duty stainless clip that is used in catfish fishing perfect for the job. You want something that you can easily hook a swivel onto, no point in just tying directly to the hook on the spring balance as that’s not representative of the actual application. In my previous life I was a manufacturing systems engineer, that’s why when it comes to carp fishing it’s all about the details ;) Have fun. Cheers, Matt.
Very good video as always I must admit to not wetting the lines we all know about wetting brade but never seem to think about wetting the mono as for makes an type I have been using two different lines one being fox exocet which I've never had a problem the other is a fluro coted mono from rigmarole which I have been using for 4 to 5 years and only had too change once but I'm thinking about changing it to sufix durafex G2 as it's apparently the same abrasion property's but has a higher knot strength at .35 so this should be able to cast 100 plus with my ability thanks again for a great video matt
Hi Dave, I’ve never used the Fox exocet or the Rigmarole mainlines so I can’t really comment. I have used the Suffix advance though. The thing you have to watch with Suffix is that it’s not a carp brand and the rated strength is based on the dry clamp test rather than a real world knot. This generally means that you’ll only be able to achieve 50% of what it says on the tin. Now this may or may not be fine of course but just be aware of this. This year I tested the Nash Bullet in 20lbs (.040) and over the winter I’ve dropped to the 10lbs version (0.28) as I was that impressed with the 20lbs version for knot and abrasion resistance. I’m flicking out solid PVA bags this week to 80 yards + on 9ft - 3lbs Dwarfs on 10lbs Bullet straight through (no leader) and I’m not even trying lol. The Bullet isn’t perfect as it does tend to go a bit bongly and if that bothers you then you’ll hate it but it casts like a dream and is as tough as nails. If you try it, let me know how it goes. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thank you for replying I will let you know when get time to try it which hopefully should be over the Christmas break if it's not good enough I'll be going back to the fx from rigmarole I'm not saying it's indestructible which no line is but i once cast to the edge of an island and the wind cort it and blew it onto a branch which I adventurly reeled in with no damage to the line and it cast well what I mean is that I can put a hook bait 120 yards and I'm not a big hitter so give it a go and see what you think
Just returned from a trip to France, I changed from technium black 12lb to 15lb syncro (standard one).
After every fish I was stripping at least 20 yards of line off due to unbelievable line twist!!
Now I do play fish off the clutch so this may of added to the twist but this line will be off by the weekend..
Brendan Tills
Hi Brendon, twists and coiliness (if there is such a word) are two different things. Check out my video on tangles, twists and coils for more information: th-cam.com/video/pf1m8FJIP6k/w-d-xo.html I do everything I can to avoid line twist and this includes never pulling the line off the clutch ever! (well hardly ever lol.) A switch to back winding a few years ago keeps me in more control and fishing trouble free and efficiently with no extra effort. Try it, it will make a massive difference. The 12lbs Technium is a very thin line compared to the 15lb Syncro. Don’t believe for one second that the Technium has 12lb knot strength because it doesn't. It’s another line that’s tested using the dry clamp method which is irrelevant in the real world. The fact that it's thin will reduce the perceived effect of twist which is why a move to the Syncro was such a shock for you. The Syncro is not a bad line. Neither is the Technium. There are just differences that are key to understand to make an informed choice about what you need. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
I love this line, it does get a bit coiled though! After a few sessions I run the used line several times through a clean damp cloth which helps remove the coils.
Yes, it’s a good line but like you say shame about the coiliness. It just needs a little extra TLC!
Hi mathew, just coming back to this video as i had a thought regarding breaking strains on mono. Do the stretch of the material play a role in the BS. I expect braid would break at the same BS regardless but have you tried testing breaking strains at longer lengths, so if you put 10 meters onto that kettle bell for example would the BS go up? Just a thought
Hi mate, it doesn't matter how long a length you test or the distance the pull load is from the kettle bell. The breaking strain would always be the same. The only difference is the amount of stretch that takes place during the test. Cheers, Matt.
Mat I will be honest I use the new fox fluorocarbon mainline now as my syndicate isn't massive but on my other spools I've the fox exocet for distance casting when the boats not allowed or your just chucking a single at a showing fish but the esp line I used and I found it was always getting twist wind knots and it seemed to go really crinkle after a heavy fight or if you had tugged weed in also I found it trapped up my reels alot and my reels are the 1400 mags not cheap gear so I knew it wasn't the reel besides since changing over I've had zero traps and you know yourself flurocarbon line is a pain great vid mate
I have experimented with fluorocarbon lines. X-line was particularly rubbish and then I tried Tiger line which did not suit the fishing I was doing. I’ve never been convinced by the merits of fluorocarbon and it’s very expensive. 14000 Mags are the best of the best mate. Perfect line lay and zero twist (as you know) so definitely not the reels lol. Thanks for your comments and support mate. It’s greatly appreciated. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler your welcome mate great channel and tbf I used to use Berkley big game weedy green when it was a lesser known name and wasn't to expensive but did the usual carp angler thing and went for the bright packaging and bog names although all have pros and cons I think we can be too caught up in having the best in guilty of being a tackle tart my boat cost more than my car lol my girlfriend has no idea lol. Maybe I'll go try the Berkley again next spool up the one Merritt I will give the esp it was great for distance work but as you showed the knots strength varies but still it may have been my error I'm no pro at this great vid pal 👍
@@thecarpfather5757 Sometimes the most expensive is not necessarily the best choice. A mate of mine is a top angler and Big Game is all he uses no matter where he goes and he’s a hauling machine lol. The only downside with Big Game is it’s a bit spongy. Useless if you’re trying to feel for a donk or drop at any kind of range. The only reason why I gave it up for the Bullet is that the Bullet has less stretch, casts better and has a very similar knot and abrasion resistance to the Big Game. Like the Big Game, Bullet also comes on 3000m spools so there are savings to be made if you get through a lot of line.
Hi Matt,
If every company would have this kind of approach towards product review would be something 🙏. By the way, which version (colour) of Nash Bullet are you using? Keep up the good work.
Hi Andrei, thanks very much for the feedback! I’ve been using the green but I also have a spool of the brown that I’ll try next year. I know some guys swear that colour makes a difference but personally I’ve no evidence to support this. I’ve fished with every colour line and I’ve never been able to attribute colour with having any impact on my results. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thank you kindly for your reply 🙏 tight lines.
Hi Matt love your instruction videos , what line would you recommend for rowing baits out and coming back with an open bail arm
And feathering the line or bait boat work . Kind regards Ron Wood
Hi Ron, that’s a great question! It’s something I do all the time and I’ve tried a few different monos for this work. There certainly are differences. Berkeley Big Game is good strong stuff but it does not exactly flow nicely off the spool. It catches on the lip of the spool (or sticks together) and that’s a nightmare when you are dropping rigs from a boat! It can also spring off an open bale arm when it’s new. The best option I’ve tried so far is the 20lb Nash Bullet. Tied to a lead free leader such as Cling-On it’s mega strong and it flows really nicely off the spool. It’s best to splash water on the spool while you are rowing or motoring back. This way it behaves beautifully and will be trouble free. The only downside to Bullet is that the last few metres can go a bit wonky (technical term) but it’s easy to cut that off and re-tie it every few days during a long session. Best of luck, Matt.
I tried it in a couple of breaking strains a few years back and eventually just binned it. It seems to be very tough, good knot strength etc, but the memory is just awful and gets worse with use, it's almost unmanageable. I've never been completely happy with any line. Daiwa Tournament ST is surprisingly good, but in the last 2 years I've used Sufix Advance and it really is in a different league. Low diameter to stated b/s, low memory and very well behaved, exceptional knot strength and incredibly tough, it just ignores rocks etc. It will need to be a real superline to get me to change from this stuff.
Hi Bill, thanks for sharing your experiences. I tested Suffix Advance a few years ago and I was disappointed. I tested the 25lbs version (11.3 kg) and 0.35 diameter. It all looks great on paper but when I tested it, those numbers don’t add up. I struggled to get 15lb knot strength from this line and I tried every knot I knew. I later discovered that lines like this are tested using what’s called a dry clamp test as opposed to using real knots. This gives a completely false impression of the real world knot strength. In general carp fishing it’s highly unlikely that you need knot strength of 15lbs but as we have cats to 125lbs that can snap 15lb mono like it was cotton, it was a problem for me. Good to know it’s working for you. Cheers, Matt.
Hi Matt. I use the Advance for deadbaiting for pike, I use the .38mm. It's low stretch is good for distance fishing and I prefer it to braid for that job. Oddly enough, my first knots, 5 turn grinners, were not very impressive but I found that using 7-8 turns and tightening down very slowly was a completely different story, knot strength was transformed. Where it's a winner for me is with abrasion. I live in Ireland and a lot of the lakes are absolutely strewn with limestone rocks and boulders, particularly within the first 30 yds or so of the shorelines. I've used Advance side by side with other lines, including Synchro and Daiwa ST and the Advance always held up far better. As I get older, I'm tending to pay less emphasis on breaking strain and more on diameter as a guide. I suppose the thing with lines is that everybody can have a different experience, what works for us might be hopeless for someone else and vice versa...
@@billcollins6705 Ah right! Well the 0.38 would be a great choice then for that kind of work. It’s a bit different here as I have to factor in the possibility of tangling with a massive catfish lol. I have experimented with adding extra turns to various knots and I actually found that the extra turns made the problem worse! That’s the trouble with knots, every material is a bit different. The modern match anglers only ever talk in diameter nowadays and I think other anglers should take a leaf out of their book. Diameter is everything when it comes to casting and knot strength. I bet your 0.38 suffix is rated at 30lbs or something crazy but it would never withstand that. It does have good abrasion resistance though I just think it’s misleading to state a breaking strain that’s not achievable. It’s very confusing to anglers. All that matters is that you’ve found something that works for you. As you say it’s a very personal choice. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
The .38 does actually have a stated b/s of 30lbs !.. but in the real world it's probably no where near that and is probably similar to other lines of the same diameter. It's probably fair to say that loads of 'reputable' lines of the same diameter will have similar b/s when tested in everyday conditions. In any case, anglers are more likely to use a higher b/s and diameter if the line is better behaved in use than something which is a handful, Synchro might be strong and tough but certainly would not be on my radar again for that very reason (handling).
Hi, I’ve been using 15lb xt loaded this year. I’ve found knot strength to be good and sinks well. But had a few problems with twist in the line on casts. Probably change next year.
Hi Martin, you've had a similar experience to mine then. After the Syncro I moved over to the Nash Bullet and I’m happy. It’s not perfect (no mainline is) but friendlier to fish with IMO and it casts miles so it gets a thumbs up from me :)
I have had a similar experience with that line including twisting and stretching been an expensive mistake! nothing but trouble.
Have been using 'standard' Synchro in 12 & 15lb since its original release . . .tried the Loaded in 15lb on my carp rods last season . . .totally different line. Coils, pigtails and is springy to cast - sinks well but not noticeably any faster than the standard, I think knot strength is also compromised and after losing two fish in succession on the same rod I ditched the lot and spooled up with the standard version again . . .
Hi Chris, thanks for the info. I have a lot of respect for ESP as a brand so it’s good to know that the standard version is good stuff. When I did my research on the loaded there was very little information from anglers available. Hopefully this video and the comments will help other anglers make an informed choice from now on. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Its weird as the standard line has been held in high esteem since its release. I use it for all carp & barbel fishing and its never let me down - I swopped from Pro Gold some time ago and have never seen the need to change (other than my one experiment). . .one would assume the Loaded would be a natural progression but it just isnt!
The only difference between the 2 versions is colour.
Hi mate don't know if you know this but if you Google tackle box line test you will find a chart the tackle box did telling you the actual braking strain and diameter of a lot of different lines.
Hi Mark, thanks for commenting. I know about that chart thanks. It inspired me to do my own testing and I was very shocked by the results I was getting out in the field as opposed to their results. I meet loads of anglers that are horrified how weak their knots actually are so what I would say is do your own testing. It’s really easy to do, all you need is a weight or a bucket of water. The results might surprise you! Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler My way of thinking Matthew is its always better to be over gunned. On most of the waters I fish you could probably get away with a .32 line but I mostly use a .38 plus. The most I need to fish at is about 110 yards and I can do that with anything upto a .40.
@@markmason13 Yes absolutely mate. With a little trial and error it's possible to achieve a really strong knot with thinner lines but if you need the extra diameter for abrasion resistance then there is little point. All the best with your fishing. Cheers, Matt.
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I spent a year (70 nights) fishing with ESP Syncro XT loaded in 18lbs and did quite a few day sessions with the 10lbs version. It’s got some very good properties but I really didn’t like the line memory and how much it dries out in the sun. It would be great to hear from other Syncro users and how your experiences compare with mine.
Excellent video Matt as usual. Simply not enough analysis of this caliber available to help the everyday angler navigate the morass of line products on the market. Buy it and try it really isn’t cost effective for most people now that line is so expensive.
@@dafarsher9738 Hi mate, thanks as always for your amazing support. We’ve not specifically done a product review before so this is a bit of an experiment for us. If it’s well received we’ll try and do a few more. Cheers, Matt.
Hi mat what camera would you suggest for TH-cam videos and also what's the best editor software to use in conjunction thanks mate top video
Hi mate, that’s a tricky one lol, depends a lot on your budget. We started the channel with a mobile phone, then moved over to mirrorless cameras. This year we upgraded to an Olympus OM-D EM1 mark iii with two fixed objective lenses. Not cheap but very good quality images. Before that we had an Olympus OM-D EM10 which would be a great choice as well at lower money. This video on the Syncro is the last one we did with the OM-D EM10, the video on bait size for example was done with the new OM-D EM1 if you want to get an idea of the difference in image quality. We like the Olympus gear because we get great photos as well which is important for us.
Being able to record audio directly into the camera is a big plus. Used to be a cheap wired lavalier. Now upgraded to the Rode Go II wireless system. Good sound is as or even more important than good video. On the editing front we use adobe premiere elements but will be moving over to Final Cut Pro soon. You can easily spend more money than you’ll ever make back on gear lol. So my advice would be to start cheap and simple and move on from there. Maybe just start with a Rode SmartLav and plug it into your phone, then get a tripod clamp for the phone. If you already have a decent mobile then it’s a great way to get started for a small outlay. Best of luck, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler I really appreciate that mate thank you great video as always
@@thecarpfather5757 No worries mate, always happy to help 👍
Would like to see wychwood dpf in 18lb tested. I used it for 3 years and had carp to 40 and cats to 90 and never suffered a snap at the knot (grinner and palomar) and found the abrasion resistance fantastic. I’ve switched to esp for this coming season. The ONLY reason for the switch is whilst I had no problem with the dpf flouro coated mono it was simply the colour that put me off (not a fan of purple at all). So what knot are you recommending for the esp sycro as it doesn’t look like the grinner is going to give me much confidence now.
Hi mate, it depends what you're connecting it to. The best knot for a swivel is not the best knot for a lead free leader. If you're connecting to a swivel, I'd go blood knot or Palomar. For a leader, you want a simple uni knot. Do your own testing and that'll tell you what knot is best 👍
I have used the 18lbs version for a while. Useless casting line and I've found the coiling to be a pain even if you keep the spools wet. It is a nightmare to get out with a bait boat any distance. I use Grinners in it almost all the time and I've never had one snap. I still use it for close range and snag fishing because its a really good tough line that sinks well. I'm still searching for a good distance line so if there are any you recommend I'd be interested to know.
Hi mate, thanks for commenting and sharing your experiences. Yeah I was disappointed with how it casts. I moved on to the Nash Bullet this year and it casts so much better than the Syncro. Even the 20lbs flies great and I can do 100yds+ easy. I have some 10lbs (0.28) ready for some long range work next year and that should go like a rocket. I’ll be doing a similar review after I’ve tested the Bullet for a decent duration. The Bullet isn't perfect and I do find myself having to cut a few yards off every few days as it does suffer from memory but for long range casting, bait boating and rowing rigs out 100yds+ plus it’s a dream to use. It just behaves really well and flows beautifully. Cheers, Matt.
Excellent video. What main line would you recommend?
Hi Lee, I’d recommend the Nash Bullet in 12 or 15lbs. It ticks a lot of boxes without having any big downsides. It casts well, has good knot strength and good abrasion resistance. You might notice the last few yards going a bit curly after a few sessions. I’d just cut that off and get back to a nice clean bit. Cheers, Matt
@@matthewcollinsangler what braid material would use for the hooklink? I have ESP Tungsten Loaded in semi stiff, korda dark matter, korda N Trap Soft, korda super natural. I have a few others, but I can't remember them. I have to many hooklink materials and to many hooks. I will get down to what you said in your videos, Nash chod Twister hooks and mono hooklink. Just have to figure out the material for the multi rig.
@@leegray8950 Skinlink in 25lbs 👍
Hi Matthew, I would like to put new line on my reels and I was wondering since you also used the nash bullet mono which one you prefer.
The ESP synchro Xt loaded or the nash bullet mono? Is the nash one sinking as good as the ESP one?
Thanks in advance for your advice,
Tight lines
Greetz Dave
Hi mate, yes, so I moved over to the Nash Bullet after the ESP Syncro XT loaded. I’m very happy with the Bullet but it’s not perfect. It’s got good knot strength but you still need to test every knot (pull really hard with tools!). It’s stronger when used in combination with a lead free leader material. I’ve found the 5 -turn uni knot to be the strongest option and in testing I exceeded the rated breaking strain. This means I can get away with 12lbs Bullet for most situations except during catfish season when I need the 20lbs version. If you are using a swivel and tubing, I’d use the 15lb version as I’ve found the knot strength to be reduced. I use the 5-turn half blood knot and again don’t forget to fully cinch that down. The Bullet casts great for sure. The 12lbs casts miles. The 10lbs version is a bit too extreme for my needs. It sinks okay and the abrasion resistance is excellent. The only thing against the Bullet is the fact that the last few metres go a bit curly due to casting loads. This doesn't bother me but I know anglers that would hate this. I just cut the offending section off every few days when I’m in session and it’s all nice and straight again. If you are using a shock leader then this isn't an issue. I hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Hi Matthew, that’s all I wanted to know!
Thanks so much for your quick and very detailed reaction! Can’t thank you enough for all the information you’re sharing!
Cheers Dave
Thanks very much mate, I do it because I love it! Feel free to share the channel with other anglers 😊
just interested, have you got an video on snag/casting leaders and how to tie them on the mainline.
i fish 4 lakes and everywhere i fish i need a snag leader because of all the rubbish thats in the lakes.
interested to hear your take on this
Hi mate, we’re planning on doing a video on snag/shock leaders but we haven't got around to filming it yet. I’m most familiar with mono snag leaders and I’ve tested many different makes over the years. This year I did some fishing with some Nash mono snag leader 0.60 (40lbs). I will also be testing some 0.50 (30lbs). I really like it. It has very little memory, good knot strength and good abrasion resistance. I use a couple of different knots. The albright knot is strong but the tag end faces the wrong way which is a problem for big casts. The Mahin knot is also good and casts better. The GT knot is very strong but the knot is a little large with the rod I’ve been using (16mm tip ring). They also do a 0.70 (60lbs) version for really harsh conditions. I’ve not tried this yet. Hope that helps and don’t forget to subscribe and hit the bell to receive notifications of our latest videos. All the best with your fishing, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler
thanks.
I´ve used Fox snag leader for years now, most of the mainlines i used, the yucatan knot works perfect.
i noticed that some lines takes this knot better than others.
sometimes i try 4-6 different knots on a line to see whats best.
i don´t really care about the thickness of the knot, when heavy casting i make sure that its on the bottom of the spool.
Strenght is more important to me, had some knots break on me while playing a fish.
thats why i use braided line and .60 snag leader when snag fishing.
I bend hooks open first than breaking this setup.
@@Argento261 I’m not familiar with the Yucatan knot. I’ll have to look that up. It’s great to know that I’m not the only one that tries lots of different knots with different materials to see how they perform in the real world. Positioning the knot at the bottom of the spool on a big cast is a very good idea and a technique I also use. Like you I’d much rather fish too strong than too light. I wish you all the best with your fishing. It sounds like you are doing some really exciting work! Cheers, Matt.
Thats my no. 1 priority, you can't catch if your line breaks in the middle. I'm always intersted in what knots other people use.
Maybe i don't need it now in my fishing but in future i might.
Also use knots for whar they weren't used for.
For example my braided line.
I put a simple figure of 8 knot single in my snagleader, get my braid through and then tie it of with a 7turn grinner, i cut my glove trying to break that knot and i'm not a weak guy😁
@@Argento261 Sounds like an interesting knot that one! Sounds similar to the GT knot which I know is very strong.
I’m currently using it on my carp rods and it’s very twisty and coily. I use it in 15Ib and 10Ib and they react the same. Any advice on how to overcome these problems, I tend to only fish quick overnighters between work. Any advice would be appreciated.
Kind regards
Lee
Hi Lee, the problem is the line is very dry and on a short session you need the line to be well hydrated before you fish. There are a number of ways of doing this. You could pop your spools off your rods and drop them in a bucket of water. (Lake water ideally but rainwater will do). The other option is to use the sweatband technique detailed towards the end of the video. You'll need one band for each rod, then just slip it over the spool after dunking the band in a bucket. If you do this the night before you'll find it transforms the way the line behaves. You might also find this video of interest: th-cam.com/video/pf1m8FJIP6k/w-d-xo.html. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks Matt, will give it a try.
Should have a look at gamma line by pallatrax... 0.43mm dia is a 34lb BS or a 20lb BS is 0.33mm dia 👌
What would you recommend as the best mono with great knot strength, abrasion resistance and super low memory/tendancy to twist
Thanks again for commenting. After a year with Syncro I decided to test the Nash Bullet in 20lbs. I did a full year with that and overall I’m very happy. I found it easier to tie really strong knots with the bullet that passed my 8kg deadlift test. Abrasion resistance is also great, same as the Syncro. The bullet casts better than the syncro IMO and flows off the spools really nicely. I had less issues rowing out rigs and dropping them and no issues when using wrap sticks. It still has some memory and you’ll find yourself having to cut off the last few meters fairly regularly as it goes a bit bongly (technical term!), this doesn't bother me as I fish back leads but you might hate it if you like slacklining. I’ve yet to test the 15lb version but based on the super strength of the 20lb version I’m sure the 15lb is great too. I’ll be testing the 10lb version too this winter. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Thanks for that Matt, I had been looking into Syncro heavily and never really considered the Nash line! Will defo be getting hold of some of that then as I trust your reviews whole heartedly due to the neutral and honest nature👏🏼
@@ashleyknight29_ No problem mate, if you try it, let me know how you get on, it'll be interesting to compare.
Hi Matt , would you say that larger diameter lines are more robust than the smaller diameter same strain line . Was Looking at the Daiwa Hyper Sensor 20lb at 0.37 mm or Subline 20lb at 0.43 mm, diameter alone is pushing me towards the Daiwa .Tri line coming into mind now . Any recommendations. Cheers.
Hi Geoff, when it comes to knot strength and abrasion resistance, diameter is king so I choose line on diameter rather than rated strength. Low diameter enables you to cast further with less force so low diameter lines are an advantage on large lakes but only if you can get away with them. This winter I’m testing 12lb (0.30) Nash Bullet. Bullet is under rated i.e. you can actually tie knots that can withstand 12lb+ of load (I’ve done the tests myself). I can cast a baited rig 90 yards with a 9ft Dwarf with a 3oz lead on 12lb bullet (no leader) which makes it suitable for loads of situations. The 20lb (0.40) Bullet is mega strong and I reserve that for the big catfish here (100lbs +). The 15lb (0.37) Bullet is the same diameter as the Daiwa hyper sensor you are considering but there's no way the Daiwa will take a 20lbs load. Try the Daiwa and by all means test it, should do 15lbs with a well tied knot which is OTT for most situations anyway. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler Thanks for that info Matt , reason I’m asking is I’ve been able to get on to a syndicate water with fish to middle 30s , and don’t want to be let down by my mainline , not really for casting , but the ability to play and pull a lump in if I’m fortunate to hook into one. Would a Nash Bullet 15lb be sufficient or is the 20lb the safer bet for this water.
@@geoff1653 0.37 is massively strong mate. Just pay attention to how you tie your knots and give them a damn good pull before you fish ;)
@@matthewcollinsangler cheers Matt , top class info , thanks .
Berkeley connect CM90 for me. very supple and doesn't seem to have much memory in it
Hi mate, thanks for that. When I went with the ESP it was a coin toss between it and the CM90 actually. The CM90 isn't easy to get hold of over here so I went with the ESP as it’s a very popular line. Good to know that you are happy with your choice. Cheers, Matt.
So out of all the lines you've used over the years, what is your recommendation or you've not really found one that doesn't require you to keep it moist?
Hi mate, so after the Syncro, I changed over to the Nash Bullet. I’m happy with it and I don’t find I have to do my sweat band trick anymore to get it to cast and flow nicely. Knot strength and abrasion resistance are equal to the ESP so I prefer to use the Bullet. Casts very well. It’s not perfect though and I do find it goes a bit curly with repeated casting but if it gets too much I just cut some off and I’m good to go. I also used Berkley Big Game for a few seasons and the only reason I don’t use it anymore is that it’s a bit spongy, other than that it’s a solid choice and excellent value. It’s a very personal choice of course but this is a quick summary of my last 5 years. Cheers, Matt.
I used the 18lb a couple yr ago,i found it crap to be honest, im using gardener hydro tuff in 15lb its 0.38 casts great and sinks like a brick and really strong and abrasion resistant.
Hi Graham, thanks for that, interesting, I’ve not tried the hydro tuff myself yet. Cheers, Matt.
What line would you can is best for carp and catfish mate
Hi mate, we have large carp and catfish at our lake Beausoleil and we only allow two mainlines: Nash bullet in 20lbs and Big Game in 25lbs. The Bullet has less stretch than the Big Game which makes it better for carp fishing and is lower diameter so better for fishing at range and casts better. The Big Game has higher knot strength to a swivel and is therefore a better choice for catfish if you have to use tubing. The Bullet is very strong when tied to a lead free leader (stronger than when tied directly to a swivel.) At the end of the day there is no one perfect solution. Hope that helps, Cheers, Matt.
Thanks Matt for the help just ordered some big
Ridge Monkey Line has a terrible loopy line memory i wrote to them to complain...I never got a reply. I have never purchased anything RidgeMonkey since.
I’ve never used Ridgemonkey line myself but I had a group rock up with some of their 20lb mono and I broke it with my bare hands (no knot involved), shocking really.
I totally agree with that. I’ve had the same issues with the Ridgemonkey line. Would never buy it again. I also have the large Ridgemonkey grill pan and both release buttons fell out of the handles after 2 uses. Poor quality control in my opinion. Shame as I had.high hopes for the company as they’ve had some great ideas.
@@darrenfowler8308 Hi Darren, right, wow, okay. Not an isolated incident then. I’ve been very happy with the Ridgemonkey head torch. I’ve had it for years and it’s still going strong so I think they have some strong products but I haven’t tested many of them. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler There may be plenty of anglers who love their line but my experience wasn’t good. I have other products from them that are great. I think it’s a case of the quality isn’t consistent. I was looking at getting their stoves but heard great and bad reports on the quality. Bit hit or miss. I bought their first bivvy light when they were released and it is still perfect. I guess we could say similar things about all tackle brands. Not every product will always be perfect or be what the individual was expecting.
@@darrenfowler8308 same happened to me a few months back with the release buttons. Still waiting for my replacement handle. Won't buy anything from them again
I noticed you were using the loaded version, I’ve found this to be no where near as good as the ordinary Syncro, almost chalk and cheese !
Thanks Steve, seems you’re not the only angler that preferred the standard version compared to the loaded version! Cheers, Matt.
I totally agree. I've used the standard version since it came out and love it. I tried the loaded version once and didn't like it. I still use the standard version usually in 15lb and can fish at a decent range no problem.
@@Michael_Sparkes Hi mate, thanks for your input. Good to know that the standard syncro is better than the loaded version. It’s something I’d have liked to know before I splashed my cash! Cheers, Matt.
The only difference between the 2 versions is colour.
If you had to chose one line at 18lb would it be this Mat ?
Hi Richard, to be honest, I've moved away from the Syncro, not quite right for me. For the last two years I’ve been using the Nash Bullet in 12lbs (0.33) to 20lbs (0.40). We use the 0.40 at Beausoleil for the catfish and when tied to a lead free leader, a knot strength of 20lbs + is achievable which is mega strong. For most of my fishing I actually only use 12lbs. It casts for miles and again I can achieve a real world knot strength of 12lbs+. I add a heavy duty mono snag leader of 30lbs (0.50) for either big chuck work or when I’m river carping. I had to pull for a break the other day and the 12lbs took some breaking I tell you! You say you are looking for an 18lb mono but this is very heavy and I wonder why you feel you need this 🤔 Perhaps the water you fish is stuffed with mussels in which case go for the Bullet in 20lbs and that’s as tough as they come. Hope that helps. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler thanks for the reply, I fish for carp but going back to a French lake which has big cats, as much as I try to avoid them last year I landed a 96lb on line I could not remember 🙈 so as I’m due to return and I don’t like to lose them or tackle looking for a good line, looking at only 50 yards to spots ?
@@rich1jd Hi Richard, thanks for giving me some extra context. If you have to use rig tubing, I would advise you to use Big Game in 25lbs and tie it using the 4-turn half blood knot. We kettle bell every knot to 8kg. You could use a weighted bucket or just pull bloody hard when tightening the knot. Failures at the knot is the most common cause of losses. Just because it says 25lb on the spool and you think you can tie a good knot means nothing. I’m forever shocking experienced anglers at Beausoleil when I break their knots without even wobbling the bell! If you are using a lead free leader then the Nash Bullet in 20lbs is great but it’s difficult to pass our 8kg test on a swivel with tubing. The Bullet is friendlier to fish with than the Big Game but either will cast 50 yards. If you haven't got proper Big Pit reels then you’ll get on better with Bullet for sure. PS. some of my guests also want to avoid the cats so I allow them to use a couple of tigers on the hair and then fish over a veggie mix. That works quite well. Best of luck, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler brilliant Mat and thanks for all your videos 😊
I prefer the original synchro xt rather than the loaded version.
Hi Jim, ok, interesting to hear that. I never tried the original version. The loaded coating is probably the reason why it tends to coil when dry. Cheers, Matt.
@@matthewcollinsangler definitely try the normal.version. I was put onto it by a friend who's used most lines over the years and rates xt highly. I use the 15 which is tough as old boots. Will give the 10 a try too if I need to cast.
@@matthewcollinsangler I think a certain Mr Hearn uses the original version too.
@@jimwocha4949 Thanks for the recommendation mate. If I get the chance to test it, I will.
There is not a lot I don't like about ESP. But this product is one!. horrible stuff, if you want good line look at Gardener GR line. Now that is proper line and lasts, also ticks all thats needed from a carp line :)
Thanks for the recommendation mate. I'm fishing with the Nash Bullet this year and it ticks a lot of my boxes too.
You put far to much bait in then from the bait and you baited up wrong as well when fishing comps spread the bait in a zone as big as a small car let your swim will hold more fish and spreading the bait out will call more carp into the swim 😀