A comprehensive guide to Permaculture Guilds
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I was hesitant on making this video, because a big misconception is that we need certain combinations of plants to work optimally. I hopefully shatter that misconception here.
Instead, the proper approach is to learn which plants you have available, in which plant functions, and then stitch them together. So in this video we spend time teaching the various plant functions. Then we go and tour some guilds I have set up on my property.
Let's get going!
The most comprehensive guide on permaculture guilds in the history of humankind. future historians will look back on this video to rebuild a shattered society. that is, unless you get started today, reforesting your little square of the planet, and building your own edible food forest paradise.
Timestamps
1:00 Introduction
4:43 Plant functions
25:48 Tour of some guilds
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Another brilliant and thorough video!! On the concept of nutrient accumulators I keep getting confused. I had seen somewhere that plants make their own nutrients, not specifically mine them. Maybe they make vitamins, but mine minerals?! How does that work? I'd love an explanation if you have time to elaborate. :)
The thing about this is that conventional wisdom on this topic has changed so much in the last few decades. People previously thought that capillary action brings all nutrients into the roots, and that plants basically suck nutrients up like straws. That's kind of true but also very much not true. It also completely ignores how those nutrients got there. For example, plants need nitrogen to grow leaves, but is that in the form of NH3, NH4, NO, NO2, NO3, etc?
Unfortunately answering your question requires an hour long TED talk type video, or writing chapters in a microbiology book out. I'll try to boil it down as much as possible...
Plants can't get nutrients themselves. They can acquire CO2, O2 and H2O and that's really about it. The rest they need to get from soil microbiology.
The soil microbiology breaks apart microscopic nutrients in the soil. Bacteria basically use acids to dissolve minerals and make glue out of it. This glue makes things called aggregates. Fungi can then disassemble those and pass nutrients through their networks to themselves and to plants via a mychorrizal association.
Bacteria are really good at making alkaline glues and nitrates and nitrites (NO3 and NO). Fungi prefer to make ammonium NH4 (not to be confused with ammonia NH3). So weed-pit bacterial dominated soils tend to be more alkaline and old growth forest fungal dominated soils tend to be more acidic. A big part of that is also compaction based, and how much nasty acids are being produced by anaerobes. So much depth to cover in this aspect alone, because it really determines plant health tremendously, and the blocking of various cation exchanges. For example you can have tons of Calcium in your soil, but if the soil chemistry and biology is wrong, it can get blocked from your plant's ability to access it. Moving on...
Protozoa and nematodes then eat both the bacteria and fungi and are the next step (and possibly greatest importance) in nutrient cycling. After digesting all that stuff, and pooping it out, only now can plants actually access that nutrient. The guts of a worm is one of the most complex places on the planet - microbiologically speaking.
Various minerals that the plant needs to survive, the plant needs to have them dissolved by bacteria and fungi, then consumed and chelated (bound to an amino acid) by these slightly larger microbiology critters. Only now can the plant actually use the minerals in the soil.
And it's at this point where the plant can slurp it up.
So the whole "plants slurp up nutrients" is true, technically, but it also ignores the incredible importance of the soil food web of life in making that nutrient bio-available. Short answer is that yes plants can technically slurp up nutrients, but MORE IMPORTANTLY plants absolutely CANNOT feed themselves.
I'm not sure how "fun" a video like that would be, but I can take a crack at it if you think people will enjoy it. Even if it gets low views for the amount of work it will take to produce, it will still be a good video to have in my library - that other people can point the real plant geeks towards, and maybe turn those people into permaculturists.
I'm going to pin this just so people may get value out of me typing all this out.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy wow. Yes, Thank you, so valuable. I'd love to geek out on a video like that but only if others would benefit too. I can only imagine how much work it'd be!! ;) A friend keeps telling me to go back to school for this stuff, but I worry they would teach outdated concepts... haha. I will need to read through this a few times to grasp it, science wasn't ever my strong subject. ;) Thanks again!!!
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy the other consideration, IF you opt to create such a video, would be to share practical ways to increase said biology on the scale necessary to initiate a new permaculture orchard. (Specifically for dead soils) I am currently in that dilemma myself. Even grasses won't grow in some spots because the soil has previously been stripped! I have looked into the IMO's and KNF and it has helped tremendously. But the addition of soil feeding photosynthesizing plants is one part I had only learned from your channel. Currently stuck in the awkward in between waiting game as it all does it's magic... haha. Anyway, it's all so very fascinating and I just love learning about it, and applying it all!!
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Wow, that was fascinating! I would definitely watch a video on it :)
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Fantastic reply. Love all your work, and my food forest is definitely benefiting from it!
My notes on the Six functions
1. Protect the soil from the sun. Dense planting and shade. Ground cover and herbaceous layers prevent bare earth.
2. Nutriant accumulators with deep tap root to pull up minerals. Mullen
3. Nitrogen fixer , legumes develop root noduals of nitrogen which will be released when we chop and drop the green foliage. Clover, Sea Buckthorn
4. Attract pollinators with flowers, through out the season,
5. Confuse pests with herb odors. Repel pests and attract predictors (you can’t have one without the other to balance).
6. Plants to occupy all 7 layers: canopy overstory, understory, bushes, herbaceous, ground cover, root, vine.
Instead of clover and sea buckthorn, I'd use peas and beans. Turnover time is shorter, if you don't want to harvest fresh just ignore them, they will produce something you can eat over the winter or use as seeds for the next year. Sea buckthorn is something you may want to keep, not kill for the nitrogen in the roots.
Deep tap root: comfrey. Mullein is useful for when you have a cough. Comfrey for when you have broken bones. Your choice...
I'd use Claytonia for ground cover, nutritious and delicious... (and very pretty)
Any suggestions welcome!
Peas and beans are great also. I use clover myself because it's perennial. Plant once and it's done for life. But in areas that I manage more often, peas and beans are a great alternative low growing nitrogen fixer. You just need to sow them each year.
I'm trialing and area where I just don't harvest them at all and see if they resow easily. Last uear they didn't, so I went bigger this year. I will see what pops up this spring.
Thanks 😊 for clearly summarizing the 6 points. I’m a consummate note taker 📝😉….And have written copious notes on this talk. I’m definitely NOT SUCCINCT.
Thanks 👌🏼👌🏼
Points 1 and 6 are the same: Maximize photosynthesis. Make full use of the space, both horizontal and vertical, so leaves can capture all the energy.
@@doinacampean9132 i noticed they sell peas (like split pea but not split) in harris teeter and i can confirm that these do sprout. Can these do it? Also will comfrey work well in a raised bed?
Great video! I have always believed that everyone with land should grow perennial fruiting trees, shrubs, and plants because it was the way my grandparents and parents farmed. Now as a senior, I find the idea of building self-sustaining ecosystems the solution to reducing labour associated with producing food by eliminating the need to mow grass. We are fortunate to have 100 acres, with about 5 acres as our maintained yards. Embracing a no-till vegetable garden to also lessen workload makes sense as running a large tiller through soil was getting more challenging every year. We all need to plan for our future considering age and mobility. I am thrilled with the way our own no-till garden and food forests are progressing. Because of your channel, I have discovered new plants and shrubs to try as I am in the same growing zone. As a retired teacher, I also want to commend you on your ability to present information in a manner that is clear and thoughtful without adding needless over-the-top hype as found on so many channels today. Thank you.
Thank you this means a lot to me. My father in law (Poppy) has really enjoyed moving to a no till system for the same reason. He's in great shape for his age but he is still getting older. The tiller used to really give him pains that lasted weeks.
Is your point that you maintain your 100 acre farm by primarily growing perennials? Or is that what you do to the 5 acre area only?
@@jerrysamuels8716 All of our growing areas are mulched beds (wood chips or straw) spread around the 5 acres we maintain. All of my newer fruit trees & shrubs are in a food forest setup in multiple sections. I have some old apples that are 40 years old now that we planted in the traditional way. We are also in the process of 'taming' some of the wild apple trees that grow all around the farm; pruning and grafting our favourites. There are currently about 30 acres of tillable land seeded in a perennial hay mix, and the balance is made up of two small woodlots and a full bush. The majority of the trees growing on the farm are those we planted in the '70s or their seedlings. We have a few of the original sugar maples dating back to 1849, along with stands of hickory, ironwood, and beech. These too have produced many young trees on their own filling in the woodlot quite nicely. I can't tell you how much joy it brings me to remember what the back half of the farm looked like when we moved here in 1974. You could see across the back 60 acres that were mostly giant ground level rocks with huge cracks between them. Now there are only a few left to be seen. Soil created by tree leaves, needles, fallen branches, and dead trees covers nearly all of the bush acreage. It only took 100,000 trees and four decades. :) The wildlife species present have grown with the trees.
@@lgrantsimmons Thank you for your thoughtful response.
@@lgrantsimmons it is very inspiring and beautiful, thank you for sharing :) we have moved out of the big city on the acreage property and I am learning all about food forest and planting fruit trees:) planning g to visit Jeff Lawton ‘s Zaytuna permaculture farm in Australia
I like the idea of using algae and duckweed as a nitrogenous mulch. It grows incredibly quickly. It's less of a chop move and drop and more of a scoop and fling.
I am sure someone has already answered and you have found the answer to your own question about the common red soldier beetles. They love flowering herbs like dill and cilantro. I used to think they were pests until I found they are very "beneficial" as predatory and pollinating insects.
The lesson I learned is to never overreact when I see insects on my plants and try to let nature find its own balance.
Exactly ✅️
Wow!!! Have been studying permaculture for 2 years. This is everything that we needed to have access to! Thank you so much for this incredible comprehensive and easy to understand guide! I now understand guilds completely because of this!!
Yeah! thanks for watching! You may really enjoy the microbiology guide video also.
One of my favorite plants for guilds are lupines. They get huge taproots, can be chopped and dropped and they fix nitrogen. Plus pollinators love them. And lots of native types of lupines to choose from along with some cultivated types. Really great plants for temperate guilds.
Indeed. They are a strange plant also. Can be very difficult to get established, but once they are they can be so rampant that they are considered invasive in some places. Pretty typical calling nitrogen fixing healing plants (who grow well on depleted soils) invasive. It's like we don't want to restore our soils.
I have had the best luck scatter sowing Lupine in late summer (as nature does) and they germinate the following spring. But I'm in the PNW where they are native. I absolutely adore them! (I also cannot help but think that after this video discussing nutrient accumulators, the slugs who devoured them knew best and that when topping them, they'd allow the nitrogen nodules to be released back into the newly wood mulched soil.) Hmmm...
Yeah for sure. The slugs were doing natures work. Sure maybe not in a conscious way, but the plant adapted to being eaten and turning that "bad thing" into a good thing. Any now millions of years later due to that adaptation, its still passing on its DNA when billions of other plants faded into history.
Considered invasive where I come from but I have heard there are varieties that aren't?
Excellent presentation of how a guild should function. Love the emphasis on experimentation and accepting the idea that not everything will work perfectly but it’s all a learning experience. Some videos can be almost discouraging because growing areas are presented as the pinnacle of perfection and I’ve been gardening for 60 years and am still learning. That’s what I love about it! Thanks for your honesty, it’s very refreshing.
Well said! Thank you.
Long red bug on Queen Anne's lace at 17:57 is called a Common Red Soldier Beetle (Rhagonycha fulva).
Thanks DJ! You are always solid on these bug IDs. Do you have a background in Entomology?
It looks like these guys are mostly predators of small insects. And apparently they eat coddling moth larvae! I'm floored! To find those on a Queen Anne's Lace directly next to a pear tree, and have a coddling moth predator on that plant... wow!
Nope. But I do love a challenge to look up wild animals/bugs/plants. I learn something too in the process. The key is learning correct search string parameters on Mr. Googly; then expanding to Googly Images for verification. (yes, it's dumb but I'm retired and have all the time in the world to tell you about it). :)
I couldn't agree more. Having a learning mentality is the secret cheat code to life. Learning something new every day and decades later you are a pretty useful fella.
Hmm... Well, I think I could put the lie to that, but I appreciate your kind words. Cheers!
@@djmoulton1558 typical Canadian...deflecting compliments😂. Well done!💕
This was excellent. Full of very good material. I learn something new about permaculture every time I watch one of your videos. You truly are doing a valuable service to the planet and your fellow human beings by uploading content like this. Thank you.
So kind, thank you
I just can't say thank you enough! So important to have people doing permaculture in cold hardy regions. I'm in Callander, Ontario, your channel inspired me to pursue a PDC
Absolutely fantastic! Welcome to the army LOL
Hey Neighbour. I'm in North Bay. Working on the same on my very small property.
Didn't expect to be watching an hour long video about food forest gardening today, but here we are.
I've watched a dude turn compost before and had the same thought
Free is always good. Thanks for your generosity. Guilds (to me) are the connections between elements, not the elements themselves. Diversity builds sustainability.
Exactly right!
Pretty amazing how every living thing is one, yet astoundingly diverse and ever-changing. Truly beautiful
Appreciate the reminder that we only see the plants that survive. "I'm not some kind of plant god" made me chuckle.
I'm so happy I found your channel. You explain so well and filled in a lot of gaps for me with thoroughness. Will be binging your channel.
Same here Laurie.
For someone who doesn’t have a lot more experience with gardening than I do, it’s pretty inspiring to see what you can accomplish in not too much time. This is my third year growing vegetables and first year doing perennial fruit bushes. Can’t wait to buy a piece of land where I can set up a food forest 🌳
Love the comprehensive and clear list of functions. Creating a whole ecosystem. This makes conventional monoculture look foolish.
Totally!
This was the first permaculture guild I've watched that didn't confuse me enough to just say forget it. Thank you. Thank you for going into detail about the purpose of the layers, and examples of each. I have a garden that has fruit trees and fruit bushes, but nothing is mixed together. It's February, so I'm planning what I'm going to start doing this spring to turn it into permaculture guilds, thanks to you.
Yay! This feedback is wonderful. Best of luck 👍
Great video. Best advice was to focus on the structure and functions, and to oversow with a wide variety of beneficial plants and let Nature sort it all out.
53:16 That plant with the yellow flowers is St John's-wort (Hypericum perforatum) a medicinal plant.
Oh you are right. I planted some elsewhere but I haven't been using it that much and didn't realize it was here too. I must have put it there a few years ago.
And the bees absolutely LOVE the hypericum too!
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy - St John's-wort will help your liver if you eat an oily dish. Yarrow, too..
Had never heard of guilds before. Have most of these plants but now I know what to do with them.
Mother's Day 2024, and this video was very helpful as I begin my permaculture food forest from an empty field. Thank you. Going to binge watch your other videos now.
Happy Mothers day, and welcome to the family! ❤️
Thanks so much! If everyone did such things, we all would live in heaven.
elevators and treadmills under a canopy idea is brilliant. Makes so much sense. Thank you
I love this. We started a small orchard in our bee yard and have been thinking of doing a guild for a bit now. This is perfect cause we live in bear and moose country and have a large fenced area I call my forest garden. Adding a guild will be the perfect addition. Thanks so much. Great video 🇨🇦🐝
Good luck!
Loved this video. Loved the length and loved seeing all sorts of guilds in all their glory.
Relevant username! Thanks for wasting some time with me today! ha!
Thank you - this is one of your best.
Thanks, I appreciate all the info you shared!
That was my favorite, well explained guild video. Thanks!
Thank you from Australia! This is the most informative, educational video I've seen on guilds. I now understand how to choose plants for the functions and understand what Im looking for so I can also use australian native and bush tucker foods to incorporate into my guilds. I really appreciate how much time you put into these videos and for the science behind the whys and hows. Many thanks.
You're very welcome! Thanks for Watching Eva.
I'm in Australia too. I want to do the same thing. So much to learn.
I’ve been searching for this video for months. Thank you!
Thanks Travis
Your video might have been too good at its job. I stopped half way through and added a dozen plants to my first year food forest. I will have to watch the rest later tonight.
Awesome! LOL If I'm really good at this, people will stop watching and start planting. I'm totally cool with that!
The Grass clipping machine in the background from 31:00 got me
Tell me about it. I think my neighbour does it intentionally LOL. Every single time I go out to do a video he comes out to mow his lawn. Then again, he mows anytime his lawn grows 1/16th of an inch, so maybe it's just that he mows daily.
I have tried to understand permiculture, and you are the first person to make it so simple to understand. Thank you!
great stuff - thanks so much - really enjoyed your guild explanation it helped me understand the previous 'rules' of inclusions
Wow! Another great video! Learning so much from your channel so far.
Cheers 🍻
Yay awesome! I haven't watched it yet but I just wanted to comment before I do that I am so excited you put this together. I love your longer videos and really love the videos you have on guilds. Looking forward to watching it!
Thanks Katie 😊
Love the longer video and your informative commentary. I learn alot from your videos.
Awesome, thank you!
There are quite a few plants that CAN grow under juglones! Just have to pay attention to what does ok to well with them (raspberries, dewberries, pawpaws, elder, and many others).
Just the right thing to watch on this day!
Another engineer here (Mechanical & Software)! I knew about plant relationships but polycultures and guilds are new terms for me - thanks for the great info, from the Scottish Highlands!
Most informative. Love the various guilds!
Thanks for watching :)
Fantastic video! Loved every minute
This is great info. Thanks for taking the time to do this.
Thanks for checking us out :)
Definitely not too long! Soooo much great information!!!! Thank you so much!
Thank you 😊
Awesome video! Thank you!
You have the most useful videos of anyone I have found so far for my zone. GREAT work!
thanks 😊
This made me realize that part of my in-laws' property that has been taken over by invasives, is an old fruit tree guild! Grape vines, fruit trees, a big autumn olive, blackberries, and some kind of heavy creeping ground cover. When I finish wiping out the privet, it might be productive again!
Love this video. The length was a special treat for sure. I have been wanting extra information on guilds. Thank you so much!
Thanks as always Sam
Loved it! Working on mine now.
Awesome information! Thank You :)
Loved this video. More like this! Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you Marisa 😊
Great video! Very insightful, unlike anything i’ve seen on the internet so far. Thanks 🙏
Outstanding! Great information and as always, I enjoy your presentation!
Thanks Ephraim, I appreciate that as always :)
Loved it. I feel like I’m understanding permaculture better ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thanks a lot for this video. It's really interesting and it's great that it's a long one and with a lot of details and nuances
Cheers 🍻
Fantastic video, thank you for the inspiration, words of encouragement and education. Greatly appreciated
Thank you very much
Thanks so much for this video. I am working on transforming my yard and learning more about fruit tree guilds was very helpful!
Perfect! And I absolutely love your understanding of the principles, helps me a lot, thank you, thank you, thank you :)
Thanks 😊
your long video is great, well organized and full of info. kindly make more thanks
Thanks for your efforts! I really appreciate this video. I even took notes!
😀 awesome, glad you found it helpful
Man-o-man! This is so informative and helpful for a person just starting out. Thank you SO MUCH.
Thanks! I'm glad it's useful 😀
great video with details…thank you!
Thank you! This was really encouraging and informative!
You are so welcome!
Great info , detailed and sensibly practical .Thank you.
Thank you
Thank you so much for your explanation! Very clear and simple and so useful!
You're very welcome!
Thank you, so great and easy to learn from you. I will add mullein to my area. Multi purpose plant
It wasn’t long enough! I learned so much, thank you!!!
Happy to hear!
Fantastic. Thank you
What an awesome video - thank you. you have given me a much better understanding of how it should all come together and now I'm fired up and excited to get more planted!
Glad to hear it! Thanks for commenting and good luck 👍
Been on a Permaculture binge for a few weeks now and found your channel in a search. I very much appreciate the breakdowns you give with the science references. Scientific Strategy from the scientific method. Plus the goofs and outtakes, 👍.
Thanks, that's high praise from a pirate.
So informative ❤, thanks for sharing your Guilds ⭐️⭐️⭐️
What a gorgeous space! Love the density.😍
Thanks 😊
Thank you! Beautiful forest!
Thank you!
Great content, fine presentation, a wonderful garden and the way to heal the planet. Thank you for your sterling efforts. m
I love your videos. They’re so helpful for me in Maine. Thank you for taking the time!
Thank you kindly 🙏
Great video and explanations . I’ve been working the last 2 years setting up my food forest also.
Thank you - just started making my guild and your video has been the best one I've come across because you explained it so much better than others, that I was able to understand!
Thanks 😊
Thank you for this wonderful video!
well thank you for watching it! 😀😃
Great Video! So Informative - THANKS and please keep up the fabulous sharing :)
Thank you kindly :)
Thanks for the awesome(informative) video man
This was great and so valuable, taught me so much, I had no idea, but now I do! Never too long!
Glad it was helpful!
Great video! thanks for all your notes on what has been working for you and how we can implement the design ideas on our own property.
You are so welcome!
This was such an amazing and informative video. What I love is that you have great facts and teaching but you show us the examples and a thorough walk through the gorgeous plants in your guilds. It is so helpful to hear about what you try, what does not work, what works and does not. That is just so great to hear. For somebody trying to prepare a garden, but stuck most of the time in the city, visiting your greenery filled property through your videos just get me through the long winter months.
Thanks! I should do an update this season with a bunch of different guilds I've added.
I’ve watched this video so many times. It’s so good. Thank you!
❤️
When you cut that sea buckthorn, I had a moment.
LOL! I cut down a bunch more too. I'm moving towards named varieties (these were wild varieties). But still, that's what a N-Fixer is for... as a sacrificial soil builder.
Great video. Very informative!
It is a lovely video. A great way to spend time and feed my wish list.
haha 😄
I loved this so much!! So much informative information following by the real payoff, a tour while you identify what is growing and how it is all doing. Such a wonderful and inspiring way to learn. Theory first and then seeing the application of the guilds as they are growing. Best gardening source on TH-cam. Thank you for taking your time out on a Sunday to create it.
Thanks so much:)
Wow, I'm in love with this! you've accomplished so much in not a lot of time. It gives me hope! Also refreshing to see a food forest so far north, not in a tropical location.
Thanks! It's been work to set up, for sure. It's so worth it though, and will pay me back for the rest of my life.
Lots of valuable information. Thank you!
Thanks Josette :)
The only thing more rampantly abundant than your guilds is this comment section! Love the positivity! Love the videos!
Haha thanks! I try to give a little more value than the average channel. Gotta stand out somehow
Great info. I watch nature. Planting simular trees, bushes ect in areas that these family of plants grow well together.
Simply love how lush is the forest in the summer
Thanks! You explained guilds really well.
Thanks 😊
Fabulous information, loved the video.
Cheers
Thank you for this garden tour.
Thank you too
Thank you! This is awesome. I had already gathered a lot of these types of seeds to plant, but did not have focus. Understanding the goals will help me in planting more productive guilds. Glad I watched this BEFORE planting.
Great!
That was a very cool video. Not too long. It was insightful. I really like when you are teaching about what plants do such as aromatics and how they ward off certain pests, some attract other beneficial to your garden, etc.
Thanks 😊
This is great, thanks!