You did a great job on showing and explaining all about this bad boy pcp 22 call orgin i love this rifle it is my very first and i will be buying yes the higher end models later but this baby does great and will.last for many years and still be ready and dependable as all get out very trust worthy and powerful bad boy take care all god bless
I really like the idea of having a cheaper rifle to lend out or even to use in bad weather or other situations I wouldn't want to expose my high end guns to. Great review!
That’s a better rifle than I’d lend out. I lent out my beeman r9 to my brother once to shoot some rabbits. It got it back 6 months later after his basement had flooded. Rifle was completely destroyed. Great review of the origin.!
Stuff like that & worse. Is what I'm talking about. No one respects stuff. Tools. Guns. Or anything that dosent belong to them. All you get is a....... I'm sorry about that man. ..... & here's your stuff back. Sorry it don't work no more. That's straight bullshit man. !! I don't. Loan nothing out...... I mean. NOTHING. !!!
Hey PJ I purchased the Origin for my first PCP, right away I bought a Air Venturi moderator adapter, it quiets down the rifle substantially, I also took the stock off and mounted a rail at the front of the stock so I could mount a bipod
Chrono data from a DonnyFL customer PJ: Sound tested and averaged 5 shots each (.22 cal. Premier 14.3 gr. HP), 6 ft. ahead of the muzzle, with the Sumo (91.34 dBA), no suppressor (101.5 dBA), and my oversized 25/30 cal. Tatsu (94.12 dBA). Tested the Sumo again (91.72 dBA) at 3200 psi as it was the first tested in my unregulated Origin right after a fill to 3600 psi. For comparison, 5 hard hand claps (ouch!) averaged 96 dBA at the same distance - need to understand dBA magnitudes better. Used my new BAFX3370 digital sound level meter (only $20 on Amazon!) in my closed garage. The meter seemed consistent - not much deviation within each test. Hope you're having a great holiday! Bill
From what I understand this system in this gun works similar to a regulator with a power plenum. It keeps the shots more consistent between the shots, and it will give you more max power shots. The concept is great. I really hope they continue doing things like this because as a serious air gunner, I will never buy an unregulated gun again. The inconsistency is just a mess
@@WiscAirGunners Yeah it seems like it. I wish this was released sooner. Air guns have come a long way since I first got into them, which was around the time the Gamo Urban came out.
@@gmanneod8085 I think its the trade off at this price level. Regulator for stock? Price point guns have compromises...It's just great that we have choices.
Hay PJ, Thanks for the introductory review of the Origin. It's a solid more simple air rifle than the Avenger. A few tips that have worked for me,. Put a "little" silicone grease on the fill probe tip to prevent damage and possible leak at the fill port. Barracuda Match work great for me when tuned with the hammer spring. Plus Hajimoto makes an awesome internal stack pack to quiet it down to accepable levels without the extra length of a moderator or can be used in additon too! I put a Bugbuster compact 3-9x40AO on mine to keep it as light at possible. Great accuracy to 75 yards. Did you clean the barrel first? I had to clean mine to improve the accuracy. Much Appreciated for your time to look at an affordable budget air rifle, great job!
Thank you. I did not clean before the video. It was right out of the box. The only thing you didn't see was me hand pumping. You are right on about the silicone grease.
I just got a new one yesterday, and was wondering about some sort of lube for that fill probe. I don't see that in the manual, but seems like a good idea. So you think that would be not harmful to the gun or pump? Any particular type/brand of grease?
@@WiscAirGunners my wife and I watched the video "great American air gun challenge" u put out a while back. Haha she groaned and said..."great...there goes all my dang Q-tips!" In fairness I only shot 3. 1 at 30...50....and 85yds. That's a hard bugger to hit with a break barrel and a cheap walmart scope, but I finally got it. Id love to see more videos like that. Keep it up buddy!
I've had one for going on 9 months and 6500 trouble free shots. My Umarex hand pump gave me some trouble at first, but I have a handle on it now. Blows an Oring about every 1500 shots. I can live with that. Anything air pushing 3k+ psi is going to wear and require maintenance. Bottom line... best $300 I've ever spent. My next purchase is a Yong Heng and then a wood stock Avenger. What a time to be an airgunner. My powder burners sit lonely a lot these days.
For me, mine is very consistent between 1800psi-3000psi. Hammer spring turned down 1.5 turns from max. I get roughly 30 shots. Very accurate with cheap CPHP. I pest with Hades. I added an internal moderator and an external moderator, very quiet. My only complaint has to do with the pump that shipped. It broke down after about 500 shots, I couldn’t rebuild it despite following the instructions. I upgraded to a higher quality pump and have had no problems. The gun is so accurate that it’s almost boring.
Great video. Your explanation and review was very informative. I am considering the Umarex and the Gamo Arrow. If you have reviewed the Arrow which of the two would you recommend for a budget air rifle taking low noise as a very important feature I would like to have. Thanks Roger
Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to see the Arrow in person. If the opportunity presents itself, I will jump on it. Thank you for your kind words.
I didn’t have it out for extended periods of time, but my son used it in Pittsburgh through the winter and mostly kept it in his car with no performance issues.
Thanks so much for the reply. Still recommend the gun one year out from your vid? It'll be my first real pellet gun and I like the accuracy of these vs break barrels. Thanks again.@@WiscAirGunners
Adding another comment… That hill pump must push some serious air. You got to 2k PSI from 30 pumps? Wow. I have been definitely using the wrong hand pump lol.
It is a great pump, but there is magic in the Origin. It has some sort of counter spring thing in the air tube that pushes back against what you pump in, so it takes less effort to get to shooting pressure. It's a really smart design that I think has been under appreciated.
New to Air guns for sure , i own 1 Gamo swarm whisper and now an Umerex Origin .22. love the sport and looking for affordable options. Any thoughts on this?
The Avenger is a great value. We have a video on the new Bullpup version. I've had good luck with the AEA line of PCP's but they are pretty air hungry as many are semi-auto. Set your sights on the FX Dreamline. I don't think it gets the attention it deserves and is an excellent shooting rifle.
Sorry the more I watch the more excited I get. This seems like a pretty strong choice. I’ve heard a lot of good things about it and I am so tempted. I want to see a shot string though. A full shot string. Have you done one?
I like them around 890. You can go faster but in the rifles I've had in .25 that seemed to be wound pretty tight. If you see spiraling in windy conditions, back off the speed.
30 pumps and you were up to 2000 bar, 15 pumps and you were at 1500 bar?!? Shoulda stopped at about 5 pumps LOL ( I know you meant 2000 and 1500 psi) I have a MK IV Hill and it is an outstanding pump. Gotta have that dehumidifier kit on them though.
@@WiscAirGunners No, I can't say that pumping to 250 bar is any fun. I can't imagine 2000 bar LOL I have the Hill EC 3000 for most of my use. The hand pump was just to get started with my first PCP, and it has served me well over the years. It is nice to have when we lose power and I still want to be able to shoot though, I'll say that!
Hey PJ Brad again, I'm looking for a new gun and hope you can help me. I'd really like the accuracy of say an FX Impact or a Daystate Redwolf but with a price tag more along the lines of the common working man. I really lack experience and connections in this field so I need some info.
The Avenger is the most accurate budget rifle I've had a chance to shoot. I'm working on a review of the new BullPup version. It's got a lot going for it at a budget price point. The FX Dreamline is a great rifle too. I think it is the most refined feeling (smooth cocking, sweet trigger) of their rifles with loads of adjustability and (compared to the RW and Impact) reasonable pricing. The Origin, Wood Stock Avenger and Avenger Bullpup all get a thumbs up from me as entry level, budget priced rifles. The Dreamline is my buy once, cry once recommendation.
Mine came with pretty desent scope and the umerx nice pump oil field gage 410 bucks for all. combo box like yours but with scope and real nice umarex pump with was 150 bucks just for the pump it's self so in reality paid 250 for gun and desent scope cams with very accurate spot on and very powerful great gun I will neve get rid of mine and I won't loan my out I killed coyotes with mine out out 50 yards hiding down head shots
Hello, first time getting an PCP air rifle and first time finding your channel. I have seen some terrible reviews about the pump, did you have any issued with it?
@@WiscAirGunners big advancement lol. I had to back it up and listen twice just to make sure I heard 2000bar right. They are great guns. I love my .25cal origin. Also just uploaded a video on how i removed the up and down play in the barrels with a couple of wire ties, which was my only real gripe about the rifle.
You did a great job on showing and explaining all about this bad boy pcp 22 call orgin i love this rifle it is my very first and i will be buying yes the higher end models later but this baby does great and will.last for many years and still be ready and dependable as all get out very trust worthy and powerful bad boy take care all god bless
@@Gold-d9x thanks. I’m glad I could help.
You are WELCOME, and THAT LOOKS AWESOME!!
Thanks my friend!
I really like the idea of having a cheaper rifle to lend out or even to use in bad weather or other situations I wouldn't want to expose my high end guns to. Great review!
I agree 100%.
I don't lend rifles out to no one for no reason what so ever. Terrible idea. That will get you in prison really fast
I would not Lend. out a bb gun for the neighbor next door. You want to play. Get your own .. period. !!!
In my opinion I really didn't think it was that loud it didn't seem to be any louder than a Benjamin Marauder or any of those type of guns
Lol yep 😂lol@@Jay-dl4vk
The Allen wrench is for the hammer adjustment.
That’s a better rifle than I’d lend out. I lent out my beeman r9 to my brother once to shoot some rabbits. It got it back 6 months later after his basement had flooded. Rifle was completely destroyed. Great review of the origin.!
AAAARGH! Sorry for your loss!
Stuff like that & worse. Is what I'm talking about. No one respects stuff. Tools. Guns. Or anything that dosent belong to them. All you get is a....... I'm sorry about that man. ..... & here's your stuff back. Sorry it don't work no more. That's straight bullshit man. !! I don't. Loan nothing out...... I mean. NOTHING. !!!
Just watched the Dec20 21 of PJ & AEAC I enjoyed video , I received my Maverick VP having a great time, thanks for all your input.
You are welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed that video.
Hey PJ I purchased the Origin for my first PCP, right away I bought a Air Venturi moderator adapter, it quiets down the rifle substantially, I also took the stock off and mounted a rail at the front of the stock so I could mount a bipod
A rail would be awesome.
Nice informative video. Great presentation. Just purchased one last week. Love it. Took 3 pigeons 2 at 48 yards. One at 54. Awesome gun
Sweet!
Still happy with the gun? I'm thinking of getting one.
I have it in 22cal. it is a really good gun accurate and power full than expected love it
Great to hear!
Yes it is all and more of what they say this gun is it's spot on accurate and powerful dude awsome gun pcp
Chrono data from a DonnyFL customer
PJ: Sound tested and averaged 5 shots each (.22 cal. Premier 14.3 gr. HP), 6 ft. ahead of the muzzle, with the Sumo (91.34 dBA), no suppressor (101.5 dBA), and my oversized 25/30 cal. Tatsu (94.12 dBA). Tested the Sumo again (91.72 dBA) at 3200 psi as it was the first tested in my unregulated Origin right after a fill to 3600 psi. For comparison, 5 hard hand claps (ouch!) averaged 96 dBA at the same distance - need to understand dBA magnitudes better. Used my new BAFX3370 digital sound level meter (only $20 on Amazon!) in my closed garage. The meter seemed consistent - not much deviation within each test. Hope you're having a great holiday!
Bill
3 db is a doubling of sound pressure in theory but 6 db for perceived double sp
From what I understand this system in this gun works similar to a regulator with a power plenum. It keeps the shots more consistent between the shots, and it will give you more max power shots. The concept is great. I really hope they continue doing things like this because as a serious air gunner, I will never buy an unregulated gun again. The inconsistency is just a mess
It does it's job and you are shooting at more constant pressure than other unregulated guns.
@@WiscAirGunners
Yeah it seems like it. I wish this was released sooner. Air guns have come a long way since I first got into them, which was around the time the Gamo Urban came out.
My buddy has one and it is a great little air rifle
@@timmy4539 I was in bed brother! LOL You got me by 6 hrs brother!
@@timmy4539 TIMMY TIMMY TIMMY probably 😂😄😂😄😂👍
I was impressed by how nice the stock felt.
@@WiscAirGunners How right you are. Can you imagine the Avenger with a quality synthetic stock like this?
@@gmanneod8085 I think its the trade off at this price level. Regulator for stock? Price point guns have compromises...It's just great that we have choices.
Hay PJ, Thanks for the introductory review of the Origin. It's a solid more simple air rifle than the Avenger. A few tips that have worked for me,. Put a "little" silicone grease on the fill probe tip to prevent damage and possible leak at the fill port. Barracuda Match work great for me when tuned with the hammer spring. Plus Hajimoto makes an awesome internal stack pack to quiet it down to accepable levels without the extra length of a moderator or can be used in additon too! I put a Bugbuster compact 3-9x40AO on mine to keep it as light at possible. Great accuracy to 75 yards. Did you clean the barrel first? I had to clean mine to improve the accuracy. Much Appreciated for your time to look at an affordable budget air rifle, great job!
Thank you. I did not clean before the video. It was right out of the box. The only thing you didn't see was me hand pumping. You are right on about the silicone grease.
I just got a new one yesterday, and was wondering about some sort of lube for that fill probe. I don't see that in the manual, but seems like a good idea. So you think that would be not harmful to the gun or pump? Any particular type/brand of grease?
I use divers silicone lube from Amazon. My small jar is 2 years old and it's still full. 😊
Good one man..."adjusted the red dot a bit" as u drop a 10 shot dime group. Ive been hoping to find more videos on affordable guns. Thanks bro
Glad to help out. I like to know about what's out there at a variety of points.
@@WiscAirGunners my wife and I watched the video "great American air gun challenge" u put out a while back. Haha she groaned and said..."great...there goes all my dang Q-tips!" In fairness I only shot 3. 1 at 30...50....and 85yds. That's a hard bugger to hit with a break barrel and a cheap walmart scope, but I finally got it. Id love to see more videos like that. Keep it up buddy!
@@braddenty503 Thank you. I'll see what I can do.
Hi could you do a video on tuning a Bengamin Cayden for max power on the hammer spring thanks
If I had a Cayden I would. I’ll keep my ears open for an opportunity.
@@WiscAirGunners Thankyou
I've had one for going on 9 months and 6500 trouble free shots. My Umarex hand pump gave me some trouble at first, but I have a handle on it now. Blows an Oring about every 1500 shots. I can live with that. Anything air pushing 3k+ psi is going to wear and require maintenance.
Bottom line... best $300 I've ever spent. My next purchase is a Yong Heng and then a wood stock Avenger.
What a time to be an airgunner. My powder burners sit lonely a lot these days.
Mine too!
good review btw I think ill order one
Thanks!
For me, mine is very consistent between 1800psi-3000psi. Hammer spring turned down 1.5 turns from max. I get roughly 30 shots. Very accurate with cheap CPHP. I pest with Hades. I added an internal moderator and an external moderator, very quiet. My only complaint has to do with the pump that shipped. It broke down after about 500 shots, I couldn’t rebuild it despite following the instructions. I upgraded to a higher quality pump and have had no problems. The gun is so accurate that it’s almost boring.
You have to love an accurate gun!
Great video. Your explanation and review was very informative. I am considering the Umarex and the Gamo Arrow. If you have reviewed the Arrow which of the two would you recommend for a budget air rifle taking low noise as a very important feature I would like to have.
Thanks
Roger
Unfortunately, I have not had a chance to see the Arrow in person. If the opportunity presents itself, I will jump on it. Thank you for your kind words.
@@WiscAirGunners thanks for your fast reply. Very interesting content and information on this topic.
Wow PJ I would say that air gun is a great deal with a hill pump its a winner all day and a shooter 👏 thanks for sharing bsafe buddy 👍
Thanks Chris.
Hey is that the legendary 22 gauge?
HaHa, yes!
Will this gun perform well in cold temps? Like teens temps? Just thinking of winter hunting. Thanks. Great vid.
I didn’t have it out for extended periods of time, but my son used it in Pittsburgh through the winter and mostly kept it in his car with no performance issues.
Thanks so much for the reply. Still recommend the gun one year out from your vid? It'll be my first real pellet gun and I like the accuracy of these vs break barrels. Thanks again.@@WiscAirGunners
@@aaronalto3034 yes. I’ve shot several and it’s a much overlooked option.
Adding another comment…
That hill pump must push some serious air. You got to 2k PSI from 30 pumps? Wow. I have been definitely using the wrong hand pump lol.
It is a great pump, but there is magic in the Origin. It has some sort of counter spring thing in the air tube that pushes back against what you pump in, so it takes less effort to get to shooting pressure. It's a really smart design that I think has been under appreciated.
@@WiscAirGunners
I may buy this gun for the heck of it!
recapped. How many dependable shots did you get between fills? Like 15.
If you fill up to the 3600 psi max you I got 4 magazines before it really dropped.
I’m wondering if the yong hang compressor will work with the ebt system an won’t wreck it
I’d be worried about filling directly to a pcp with a YH. That’s a pretty fast flow rate.
@@WiscAirGunners I use it to fill all of my pcp guns never had a problem
You said that the trigger was a little strong, have you considered adjustment? What has been those results?
I have not yet had time to do any adjustment. It's nice out of the box. It doesn't make my arthritis hurt.
New to Air guns for sure , i own 1 Gamo swarm whisper and now an Umerex Origin .22. love the sport and looking for affordable options. Any thoughts on this?
The Avenger is a great value. We have a video on the new Bullpup version. I've had good luck with the AEA line of PCP's but they are pretty air hungry as many are semi-auto. Set your sights on the FX Dreamline. I don't think it gets the attention it deserves and is an excellent shooting rifle.
Sorry the more I watch the more excited I get. This seems like a pretty strong choice. I’ve heard a lot of good things about it and I am so tempted. I want to see a shot string though. A full shot string. Have you done one?
I have not done one but I may get the chance to this summer.
@@WiscAirGunners
That would be great! Shot strings are important.
I'm looking at this or the Aea hp. Not sure what one would be the easiest to use with a hand pump?
This one for sure. However the piston system works in the air tube it makes it very hand pump friendly.
Nice job. Love your videos. Do you have videos on where heavy 25 cal have a sweet spot.. 950 fps? Just ordered the Umerax 2.0 25 cal..
I like them around 890. You can go faster but in the rifles I've had in .25 that seemed to be wound pretty tight. If you see spiraling in windy conditions, back off the speed.
@@WiscAirGunners good to know thank you!!
Abraham from The Walking Dead teaching me about my recent purchase
Glad to help!
30 pumps and you were up to 2000 bar, 15 pumps and you were at 1500 bar?!? Shoulda stopped at about 5 pumps LOL ( I know you meant 2000 and 1500 psi) I have a MK IV Hill and it is an outstanding pump. Gotta have that dehumidifier kit on them though.
Yeah...my bad! The Hill is good, but not that good!
@@WiscAirGunners No, I can't say that pumping to 250 bar is any fun. I can't imagine 2000 bar LOL I have the Hill EC 3000 for most of my use. The hand pump was just to get started with my first PCP, and it has served me well over the years. It is nice to have when we lose power and I still want to be able to shoot though, I'll say that!
What was your hammer set at.
Hey PJ Brad again, I'm looking for a new gun and hope you can help me. I'd really like the accuracy of say an FX Impact or a Daystate Redwolf but with a price tag more along the lines of the common working man. I really lack experience and connections in this field so I need some info.
The Avenger is the most accurate budget rifle I've had a chance to shoot. I'm working on a review of the new BullPup version. It's got a lot going for it at a budget price point. The FX Dreamline is a great rifle too. I think it is the most refined feeling (smooth cocking, sweet trigger) of their rifles with loads of adjustability and (compared to the RW and Impact) reasonable pricing.
The Origin, Wood Stock Avenger and Avenger Bullpup all get a thumbs up from me as entry level, budget priced rifles. The Dreamline is my buy once, cry once recommendation.
Mine came with pretty desent scope and the umerx nice pump oil field gage 410 bucks for all. combo box like yours but with scope and real nice umarex pump with was 150 bucks just for the pump it's self so in reality paid 250 for gun and desent scope cams with very accurate spot on and very powerful great gun I will neve get rid of mine and I won't loan my out I killed coyotes with mine out out 50 yards hiding down head shots
@@Gold-d9x awesome! I still think this is an unknown gem.
Hello, first time getting an PCP air rifle and first time finding your channel. I have seen some terrible reviews about the pump, did you have any issued with it?
None on the Hill brand. They know how to put a pump together.
@@WiscAirGunners None out of my Umarex one so far. About 10 full fill ups so far.
You know in my opinion I really didn't think it was that loud any of the like the Benjamin Marauders or guns like that
It’s not too bad, it just depends on how quiet you need it to be.
How many f.p.e are you getting on hades .22 pellets
I think between 20 and 25 if memory serves.
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Thanks!
1500bar or 1500psi?
That was 1500 PSI!
@@WiscAirGunners i was just foolin with you brother i understood love your videos and appreciate the reply
@@le3045acp It's all good! I knew that would get a few jabs.
Funny how he uses bar instead of psi😮
Yeah, slip of the tongue.
3500 bar youd have a bomb lol
Yeah. Imagine the compressor that could do that.
Lol I'd love see you pump that rifle up to 2000 bar lmmfao. And in 30 pumps no less.
Wouldn’t that be an advance in pumping technology!
@@WiscAirGunners big advancement lol. I had to back it up and listen twice just to make sure I heard 2000bar right. They are great guns. I love my .25cal origin. Also just uploaded a video on how i removed the up and down play in the barrels with a couple of wire ties, which was my only real gripe about the rifle.