How to Install Volvo Electric Power Steering Pump in almost any car! Demonstrated on Turbo Foxbody
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- In This video I show you what you need to be able to install a Volvo electric power steering pump into your car. I fabricate my own bracket to fit and make a remote reservoir system that you can copy to make your life easier. I also go over all the fittings you need, the cars that this pump came out of and any other questions you might have about the pump. Also I take it for a test drive so you can see how it feels.
I hope this can help you save some research and time from searching forums and FB groups FOR HOURS AND HOURS!!!
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Volvo Power Steering Pump: OEM Part Number: 36050678
THESE ARE THE PARTS YOU NEED FOR THE FITTINGS "RECCOMENDED"
Earl's Performance AT991955ERL Ano-Tuff Adapter -06AN x 16MM x 1.5 to 6AN power steering adapter
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Earls AT991954ERL Ano-Tuff Adapter -06AN x 14MM x 1.5 O-Ring Seal
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Earl's -6 Black Power Steering Hose
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Earl's Power Steering Hose End -6 90 Deg
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Russell 648060 Power Steering Adapter -06AN x 16mm x 1.5 O-Ring Seal
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Russell 620421 Powerflex Endura Aluminum -6AN Power Steering 90-Degree Hose End
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Russell by Edelbrock 620401 ENDURA HOSE END, # 6 - STRAIGHT
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Russell 632600 Powerflex Stainless Steel -6AN Power Steering Hose - 3 Feet
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MM Power Steering Fitting Kit, Mustang steering rack to AN hose, 1979-2004
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PARTS YOU NEED FOR WIRING
EWCS 6 Gauge Premium Extra Flexible Welding Cable 600 Volt - Combo Pack - 10 Feet Each Black+Red - Made in The USA
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STETION Car Audio 80 Amp Resettable Fuse Circuit Breaker Car Protect for Audio System Fuse
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POWER STEERING FLUID
Pentosin 8403107 CHF 202
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Same pumps with different variations of connectors and reservoirs in the Focus, Transit, C Max, Volvo and several others in Fords plus some True electric PS in other brands also that just ties into the steering shaft under the dash.
P.S at full lock and relief open the highest amperage ive seen is around 65A max on the 3-4 we have tested.
Man I love your comments cause I always end up learning something but now I wish I would have looked at the other styles to see if a different one worked better! ohhh so the 80 amp breaker really does have a purpose I knew it wasn't right when I was hearing guys say that they were using 40 amp fuses.
@@iamchazhaynes7074 if its a time delay fuse that allows slightly more amps for brief intervals they will be fine, we were pegging the wheel against the lock without the car running so battery voltage was at or slightly below 12v. As voltage drops amps go up so in reality as the car is running at 13.7-14.2V their 40A may be close to the edge but we use dual max 40A fuses for on track use and single 60 for a street car that wont see hard lock or hard cornering/higher pressure demands like road course, slalom or drift use would cause
Good to know! Hmm I might consider the 60 then because this car wil not see much hard cornering I do live in a canyon area but I still doubt it’ll be that bad 😂 great Info I’m still trying to do my best to learn electrical with amp draw etc so I really appreciate the comments!
Random question since you've tested a lot of them, which version was the quietest? Also do they tend to generate a lot of heat internally and don't want to be hot?
I'm doing an EV conversion and need something as quiet as possible, and then I'll throw a noise damping box over it to hopefully get it below 50 decibels or so, but I'm worried that box will cause it to overheat
@@Ryukachoo all EVs have electric PS anyway, there are several ways they can be PWMd and will only speed up when turning the wheel at low speeds and slow down at high vehicle speeds as stock ones do.
Not sure where you want read the noise from, are you talking about 50db a foot from the pump with no other noise around or from inside the car? If mounted on stock insulated mounts you might hear it if its straight wired to run all time the switch is on with full speed but as soon as you move you wont. Plus im sure its not a pump of any brand that will be below 50db since a normal conversation is around 70-75db and road/wind noise in a Tesla is 85-90db.
As far as heat goes that depends on demand, if you are running it in an Auto Cross course then the fluid temp will get hot but normal driving mostly straight it shouldnt ever be an issue and if so a small in line PS cooler is dirt cheap and sufficient for my road course car that is hard on the pump with 10” wide slicks and hard turning.
I will be using the C Max pump on my 65 F100 and will be rigid mounted to the frame just below my feet under the cab with a remote reservoir beside the radiator with an 3/4” aluminum tube to connect them, this will provide more fluid capacity and the aluminum tube will provide fluid cooling while moving since its a heat sink anyway
Hope this helps and good luck on your EV
Excellent job very impressive
I am glad I looked at this video again. I am doing the same mod right now on my channel. But, the biggest thing I noticed was the dash in the middle sits to the left a little bit and I thought my dash I was mocking up was off. Thanks for the video and the motivation to keep building
You needed one more comment to hit 100 comments so… good video on this mod. Thanks for all the part numbers as well. Keep up the vids, you’re a natural.
Great video. From my research, these pumps will run in “limp mode” without a CAN signal, which is supposedly 70% duty cycle. That would likely explain the extra effort at low speed and improved feel at speed. There is a guy out of Canada who makes controllers for a lot of these pumps so you can control pump speed according to vehicle speed or other inputs. I’m going to give one of his controllers a try.
I scored 3 pumps from Mazda 3’s and one from a 2016 Altima today at the junkyard so I have some options for mockups. The Nissan pump reservoir is odd because it mounts on a goofy angle. Pumps from S40’s are all picked from my local yards already, but the Mazda 3 pumps are a dime-a-dozen.
Take all my info with a grain of salt because I haven’t done this swap yet.
Great video, just getting ready to do
This myself.
Thanks!! It’s a pretty simple install the hardest part was definitely the bracket though! Haha
Great job on your videos, you can tell you try your best. Love the measurements, good detail, and passion. Keep it up ✌️
Thank you!! Yea I really enjoy working on the car even if I don’t do perfect every time 😂
Great content I really enjoyed Your presentation and Your thoughts on this system ! Thank You & Best Wishes . 🇺🇲🇵🇷🦊👍
working on figuring out installing one in my 94 civic hatch to remove my itr power steering. miss my power steering in my 2001 civic. So was told these were good option. Im gonna try it out with your recommended fittings. I assume i'll run in to sizing differences cause my honda rack and pinion but we'll see. thanks for the vid!
Small world find this video because I’m looking at doing a coyote in my 65 f100.. and your test drive is in my neck of the woods lol
Great video man! Subbed too. I was about to make a vid on doing this in my 79 ecoboost coupe on my channel, but really dont need to now, lol I can just point people here. Looking at the same mounting location but running the remote reservoir through the headlight bucket opening.
Install a pump controller, the pumps run in limp mode without can bus imput. They offer two, one has adjustable knob for pressure, the9ther is gps wheel speed for self adjusting.
Thanks for the great video. I'm going to install this on my 54 F-100 because it almost seems impossible to find a way to mount an original p.s. pump on a Y block. I currently have a Mustang II manual rack and will replace with a Mustang II p.s. rack. Do you know if the fittings are the same as your Fox body? Thanks for your great links to the parts needed.
Excellent, I can see the wire colour/position :o)
I made an adapter. 3/8” BSP male/male is nicely too big. Skim off 0.15mm off the thread and it die’s okay at 16mm by 1.5mm. A Dowty washer looks okay on the face. *Big spade connectors are the yellow size and the small trigger one is the ickle red spade.
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I am planning to use an electric PAS pump in my Land Rover Series 3 V8 build. It was not clear in your video how the CAN was wired, or if it is needed. I have no CAN bus in my car, thus hope the wiring is pretty straight forward with no can bus needed.
liked it.
What's up Chaz? I love your channel I have a question about the pump. Did you by chance we igh the Volvo pump versus the factory Ford pump? Is there any weight savings or losses?
Volvo pump is heavy. 14 lbs without the bracket
Thanks for sharing ,best video I've found by far on this, How's it work with the Volvo fluid,Make any difference? doing a 66 F-100 w Coyote swap
The parts list is going to help alot of people I'm sure Thnx Again
You can hook the 12v signal straight into the 12v pump supply line, makes that whole part super simple.
So the pump is always on at all times?
@@brandinsgarage Lol No. Think.
I’ve seen multiple videos of the S 40 power steering pump and I was wondering if a cooler is not needed for this set up?
What did you do in the place of the original power steering pump?
That responsiveness is from constant pressure vs varying pressure with rpm, i need that steering column so i can use the cruise buttons to shift the 6R80 lol
HAHAHAHA xD I didnt know you could use this column for that !! That would be cool but now I know I have something good! LOL
Is there info on what pressure it puts out?
Would this be a good setup for drifting??
Would you say the extra effort is due to having more road-feel feedback, or is it just a matter of being a little tougher to steer?
I want to say its because I'm getting more road feedback unlike the other pump where you couldn't even tell you were turning the wheel!
How much does the pump draw when it's idling?
that pump makes a max of like 1350-1500 psi at full stop (don't leave it at full stop very long.. you *will* kill it). Any hoses rated to 1700-2200psi is more than fine.
Would you be able to T into the pump to run a hydroboost to have electric assist brakes, or would you need a separate pump?
I can't speak from experience, but I'm not sure this pump has enough hydraulic flow for hydroboost
Do you think you can use this pump to also power a hydroboost brake system at the same time or solo?
Likely not. The power steering pump takes quite a lot of power, either get a bigger/stronger alternator and connect a separate pump designed specifically for your application or just use a vaccum booster.
Does it only work for rack n pinion or for any power steering application
Looking to hook this up to a ranger steering box, not a rack. Any foreseeable issues?
what are the dimensions of both pumps?
The AN fittings you recommend are all aluminum, not stainless.
Do u know the psi of the Volvo pump
thank god the s40 s are more useful than paper weights as they blow up around 80k or if you hit a parking curb up front it grenades the ac pump into the timing belt at 2mp or less. i have seen ton of these in my junk yards and none were missing the pumps ..guess i know a guy that will be the " PUMP MASTER" of the local yards. actually, until this video i didn't understand why you would want these but being a mustang and Volvo owner i get it now.
maybe ill get a cassette Walkman or ZUNE while i walk the yard and keep calling myself the pump master till it catches on ...
how is your knee going ?
can use volvo C30 EHPS ?
What was the purpose of this? I’ve not seen this mod before for Foxbodies. Does this mod just make the steering easier or perform better? Does this help at a specific type of racing?
I’m curious of these new mods like this.
Sorry I just saw this!
But a couple reasons is it has a more positive feeling in the steering wheel also it makes room in the engine compartment if you need it for turbo piping or whatever. And if your engine dies you can still have power steering with key on 👍🏻 some guys used it for drifting but said it couldn’t keep up after a while almost all the coyote swap foxbody guys use this mod for space purposes 😁
The other reason you would use this mod is to gain horsepower. It cost your engine power to turn the belt driven Factory pump.
I just have one question whether we put the fluid meant for the rack or the fluid meant for the pump I keep seeing people say well if something were to go bad better the pump then the rack so rack fluid but then they others say Vice versa
haha sounds like you've read exactly the same articles I've been reading. This is the conclusion I have came up with is that the CHF 202 meant for the pump with a touch of bars leaks power steering fix is the best way. After talking to someone that installs these in custom Lincoln continentals he told me that the pump will force to much pressure with the old power steering fluid and the CHF will actually allow the pump to run cooler and not force to much pressure into the rack keeping the rack intact longer and the pump alive longer. He said the extra pressure that the old PS fluid causes wears out the pump and wears out the rack in a matter of 4-6 months. So that is how I will be running the system from now on lol.
@@iamchazhaynes7074 alright man thank you for the input much appreciated
I had the same question but for use in my 1966 mustang. I’m guessing stick with the CHF 202???
Hi friend,
how do you bypass CAN wires?
i have mazda 3 2006 ehpas pump, and i wanna run it in old car(land rover)
can you help me?
You just do not use them . Wire the positive power and relay signal wire together . Don’t do anything with the canbus wires.
There may be a few second delay before the pump gets up to full pressure but that’s it .
Are you using a standard power rack?
Yep just the standard fox rack 👍🏻
What about the two signal wires, where do they go? Completely left that out. Might do this on my LS swap next time the pump goes out instead of messing with another Delco pump.
They are not used . It’s for a CanBus signal. There is a 3 second delay in the relay that is internal to the pump that stalls for the 3 seconds. Then it’s at full power.
@@docfischer7291 70%, no full power without CANbus
They're for CANbus. You send vehicle speed signal so the pump can adjust the pressure. You can do it with just about every standalone ECU, or get an Arduino with a canbus shield
@@piotr8264 Im trying to install one on my XC90, does it only need speed signal? will it automatically work if i connect to cars CAN without any additional coding? Thanks
@@tomtebloss89 it will work automatically without any signal but it it will be only at 70% power. I don't know how the CAN messages look like on XC90 but I imagine they might be different
turn it of after 40kmh if you want stability at speed
Any idea why with this steering pump i got almost the same like i got no steering pump (on parking no assist for real)? i using original ford hydraulic steering column and volvo electric pump?
Honestly sounds like the pump might be bad? Is it making any weird noises??
@@iamchazhaynes7074 no i tested 2pumps for real both do same job :(
@@Deividas33 Did you check the wiring to make sure you are getting enough power to the pump?? I'm just throwing stuff out there lol
Has anyone been able to figure out why the pump lags when doing a slalom or quick changes in direction? The volvos they came in do not do that, so why do the cars do it with the pump installed? Doesn't make sense to me. I have my pump running 100% speed with canbus control also
Have you checked your stock pump's pressure? Maybe it's higher than this pump can output
@Piotr thanks for the reply I got it figured out! Turns out it was just air that needed to work its way out
@@nickquatrini thanks for the tip! I'm actually waiting for the pump to arrive, I'd probably have the same problem. Is it loud? Like, can you hear it (outside and inside) when the engine is running at idle?
How much does the Volvo power steering pump weigh?
That’s an excellent question lol I have that extra one in the garage I’ll go weigh it and let you know lol
14 lbs without bracket or fluid
Add one Arduino + GPS module with CAN module and connect it with the fuel pump, you'll be able to control the power of the pump, since the pump is in "emergency mode" and it only outputs 60% of its power.
Aye one question
Do you know the advantages of the GPS one vs the manual one?
@@ayeitme6773 The GPS version can control the power depending on the speed more efficiently and secure. Example: While you're driving fast the steering wheel get harder than if you're trying to park. Also, if you just connect 4 wires and not the CAN BUS, the pump only works about 60% of total power all the time since it stays in "emergency mode".
With Arduino, you can recreate the same stuff as the GPS module sold on eBay and many other pages, but also you can create custom modes for parking, racing, city, drifting, auto mode (soft on low speed and hard on high speeds), you can determinate a "circuit zone" where steering wheel works in a custom mode automatically when you get enter that zone with your car, and so on.
@JJ BC that's very interesting to know about the Arduino features
How to know which CAN messages its expecting?
it’s not really EPS if you still use fluids…
It's a electric assist power steering so close enough for a near 40 year old car
Officially it's called EHPS - Electro-hydraulic power steering