...... and on a 2/12 pitch too ! The one guy rode his bike to the job and had to wear a foam hat for safety . Any man that does this type of work sees how those ropes just keep getting in the way..... and nearly trips them up . Men..... we had better get this s%@ pushed back...... or very soon we wont be able to make a living .!
7:15 Why does the curb overhang by 3/4" ...for drywall? And the interior of the curb will simply be painted? Also at 7:15 looks like they installed hangers for the joist headers which were not shown during the interior video shoot.
Good video but I have to issue you with a STOP card and ask you to take a TOFS...there is more slack in your safety line than the height of the roof meaning you will simply go SPLAT (technical term from oil industry)...
@DR PHIL agreed...i work ropes on the rigs and it's always getting on or off that cause the issues...but for tv shouldn't they at least be safe...broken back can still happen from 17'
There is a time ( in an experiencied carpenters thoughts ) when so called " safety equipment " can trip you up and send you off the roof.... not keep you safe...... and people need to use their heads at times .
i believe the roof frame curb is not sitting flush with the inside. when they will do drywall inside, it will be zigzag. or is there another soultion to fix that ?
Charlie is the real backbone of Silva Bros lunchpale guy dosent need all that fancy Festool 1000$ this and Festool 800$ domino joiner that Practical man
@@bigvegass ...Oh, Wes, you silly boy!..A shingle roof is actually harder because of step and head flashings... I don't do them because flat roofs are notorious for leaks and if you go on one and do a repair and the roof gets a leak ANYWHERE you will get the call for it...It's called "limiting liability" ..... You'd understand if you owned a construction business....
I worked for an old man doing so yard work when I was in highschool. He told me that there’s only 3 guarantees in life. 1.) Death 2.) Taxes 3.) and a flat roof will leak He built his house in the 70’s and made that mistake along with 4 leaky skylights.
I can just about bet you that most roofers don't take the time to do this leak proofing. One of my brand new sky lights covered the dining room table this morning with rain water.
That flashing job is done so wrong. The rubber should I be pinched under curb with a separate wall sheet or fasteners around the curb and a separate wall sheet. That curb is going to bridge out in the future.
At 7:44 I don't know how much help that safety harness with 30 feet of slack rope on a 10-foot drop is going to be.)) But, I love the show and the work is top-notch!
Never seen the code call for screws on hangers.... Also, what sense does it make to have hangers on single joists when the new double joists they're nailed to doesn't use hangers?
Hi TOH , Wow that's a really nice skylight that you guys installed , what kind of glass is that , is it tempered in case of large hailstones or something else that might hit it ? 👍😊🛠
The safety rope on your workers is greater than the height to the ground. So your workers will already fall to the ground, and the insurance will not work ....
I wonder of they have skylight into metal roofs. It's hilarious that I have no issues with asphalt, and rubber roofs. Scared of a metal roof screwing it up.
It fascinates me the difference in other countries. It must be a warm location with the thickness of the insulation in that roof which would be around 80mm here. It must be a very high-performance board for that thickness. Also, any kerbs where I'm from need a min of 25mm insulation as there's nothing preventing cold bridging and that 45-degree edge also made from insulation as opposed to that piece of timber to prevent the same thing. And any flat roof lights require a 3-degree pitch.
I love the way you guys keep working to bring the next generation in and super glad that you include women as well. Also, secretely, don't tell anyone, (shhhh), Tommy is my favorite on This Old House in this generation. Hope you have Carly's (sp?) on the show on the regular. It will attract a younger audience and keep things going. Boy, you can sure tell she's been slinging a hammer for quite awhile, back arm at a strange angle she's hitting with confidence. Wish she could have been in on the end. Remember when Tommy WAs the younger generation? If you didn't know about Tom and Tommy, you'd still be able to tell they worked together a lot, they work like a dream team, like one man with four hands, and they hammer exactly the same.
Nah...... Not really. The entertainment are the so called REAL pros who follow rules such as implementing slack safety ropes on a 2/12 pitch that nearly trip them as they attempt to work. Now THATS entertainment !
@@someone321 - I've seen a few where he's clearly not well from some illness, assuming those episodes are from last year or 2017 where TOH was transitioning of the female landscaper on TOH. He was doing more of the I guess supervising, not much work.
Just out of curiosity, why does Tommy pulse the trigger of the impact driver , rather than hold the trigger until the screws are driven all the way home?
Please do not apply sealant to the skylight lens. How do you suppose someone to take it off? It has a rubber seal inside the lens. Also you say in the video "it doesn't say to do this"
@Joe T Read B.Thomas comment , when it breaches out the corner sealing leaks . If someone needs sealant to make it work , u should figure out on ur own , that the stuff ur using isnt good .
@super extreme David Piacenza - The only Women that don't belong on construction jobsites are those who's ... Pregnant or bring their children to get in the way Bimbos - the men won't do the job(s) right, because all their logic & skills will go straight to their *_"stiff members."_* Not trying to get dirty Afraid to sweat their *_"fake-up"_* off and/or break a sweat Construction *_"illiterate"_* Slow learners Scared to chip a manicured & polished fingernail The rest of Us Women who do construction work will do just fine of being part of the construction team.
What homeowner? If you are referencing Carly - they clearly said and showed she was an apprentice, she even had the same company shirt as the other guy...
Should have put a bead of sealant between that curb and the roof before you screwed it, and probably between every corner and nook and joint of that curb, but then...
What an embarrassment this show is for young men today ! I understand having a safety rope when working on a MAYBE 6/12 pitch and above but give me a break ! Guys walking on a nearly flat surface....... and moving the rope out of their way to work. Safety is important but they dont show how much time was spent connecting two ropes before they begin. When I was young I roofed a 4 way hip on the second story..... when it began to snow. That was a situation where we needed it. Today guys are unsure just what sex they are.... are told to act more like what used to be seen from ladies.... and install a safty rope when they walk down a street that goes slightly down hill. For one thing you couldnt make much money installing and carrying ropes and other " safety " items. Man up men ! Now if you wear a little purple foam hat when you ride your bike.... you,ve been eating too many Estrogen infused foods in my opinion. When you think that " Following the rules " is a sensible thing we should all do...... you need to take a closer look into who has come up with these rules..... and who REALLY benefits from us keeping on track with them all. Before you all start crying let me remind you that this stuff has become much more prohibitive to finishing our work in a timely manner since I was out there..... imagine ( if you let them ) how much more it will control your work down the road a bit ! What ! LOL..... You thought they were all done making tighter rules and codes !? LOL Wait until your sons get ready to build .
I wish they would add like an extra 10 seconds at the end to show the finished product.
Good to see Norm, the master carpenter. How many times did I watch the new yankee workshop completely hungover.
"Norm & Charlie framed for the skylight"......Poor forgotten Carly.
They are 10 ft off the ground and have 20 ft of slack of rope 🤣
And they kept tripping all over the rope. Rube Goldberg would be proud.
Don't forget the 6ft from the shock arrestor.
Osha didnt say how much rope you need..
...... and on a 2/12 pitch too ! The one guy rode his bike to the job and had to wear a foam hat for safety . Any man that does this type of work sees how those ropes just keep getting in the way..... and nearly trips them up . Men..... we had better get this s%@ pushed back...... or very soon we wont be able to make a living .!
I know when I watch TOH I am going to see the job done right by confident experienced experts
So many hacks out there
I always learn something
Norm omg I missed seeing this guy, new yankee's workshop, and the original second in command with Bob. Hell yea
7:15 Why does the curb overhang by 3/4" ...for drywall? And the interior of the curb will simply be painted? Also at 7:15 looks like they installed hangers for the joist headers which were not shown during the interior video shoot.
Man...fine, rough, structural-carpentry, and furniture making. Is there anything Norm doesn’t do? Amazing guy.
Roof
Very helpful video. Thank you!
No insulation around the skylight frame that extends above the roofline?
Eric R
Nope. It isn’t necessary as the dimensional lumber if rubber applied tight, is a good enough insulator to avoid frost or condensation.
Good video but I have to issue you with a STOP card and ask you to take a TOFS...there is more slack in your safety line than the height of the roof meaning you will simply go SPLAT (technical term from oil industry)...
@DR PHIL agreed...i work ropes on the rigs and it's always getting on or off that cause the issues...but for tv shouldn't they at least be safe...broken back can still happen from 17'
Calm down nerd. Looks like he made it out alive.
There is a time ( in an experiencied carpenters thoughts ) when so called " safety equipment " can trip you up and send you off the roof.... not keep you safe...... and people need to use their heads at times .
i believe the roof frame curb is not sitting flush with the inside. when they will do drywall inside, it will be zigzag. or is there another soultion to fix that ?
Norm's back...wow...thought this was an old episode they were just uploading.
Awesome as always thank for the video
Those long screws are awesome. Anyone know what they are? Spax?
So curious what the finished skylight looked like from inside.
Charlie is the real backbone of Silva Bros lunchpale guy dosent need all that fancy Festool 1000$ this and Festool 800$ domino joiner that Practical man
well done and of course what a treat
Beautiful.
I only do skylights on shingle roofs... I always passed on flat roof installs...I've done too many repairs from other peoples installations...
So....not skilled enough to do flat roofs then? Gotcha
@@bigvegass ...Oh, Wes, you silly boy!..A shingle roof is actually harder because of step and head flashings... I don't do them because flat roofs are notorious for leaks and if you go on one and do a repair and the roof gets a leak ANYWHERE you will get the call for it...It's called "limiting liability" ..... You'd understand if you owned a construction business....
ROB-IN-PHILLY lol calm down
I worked for an old man doing so yard work when I was in highschool. He told me that there’s only 3 guarantees in life.
1.) Death
2.) Taxes
3.) and a flat roof will leak
He built his house in the 70’s and made that mistake along with 4 leaky skylights.
How much is the installation cost?
I can just about bet you that most roofers don't take the time to do this leak proofing.
One of my brand new sky lights covered the dining room table this morning with rain water.
That flashing job is done so wrong. The rubber should I be pinched under curb with a separate wall sheet or fasteners around the curb and a separate wall sheet. That curb is going to bridge out in the future.
what do you mean bridge- out? i dont know much about roof installation but would like to install a skylight...
At 7:44 I don't know how much help that safety harness with 30 feet of slack rope on a 10-foot drop is going to be.)) But, I love the show and the work is top-notch!
Definitely they would never wear those if they weren't on camera.
What’s the lifetime for rubber roof? Is it shorter than shingle?
Always a maintenance time. Some longer than others
Never seen the code call for screws on hangers.... Also, what sense does it make to have hangers on single joists when the new double joists they're nailed to doesn't use hangers?
It's because those doubles they were nailed to are sitting on top of load bearing walls. They don't need any hangers.
@@shaunpage4498 no comment on the screws then?
I think it's optional rather than code. Structural screws. I prefer them to nails in many cases.
NORM!
Yeah, that my name.
how do you install and waterproof a skylight on an existing torch down flat roof
"... and it'll never leak."
Yeah, right.
it`ll never leak for a few years : )
Never a matter of if...but when...
WOW, such an unsafe practice at minute 2:01 - 2:03. Someone could've gotten hurt pretty bad.
Hi TOH , Wow that's a really nice skylight that you guys installed , what kind of glass is that , is it tempered in case of large hailstones or something else that might hit it ? 👍😊🛠
How much it cost?
Incredible
Water tight...until it leaks!
How was the interior finished? Drywall?
What insulates that as it is part of the light shaft and wood is not a good insulater
Charlie loves those nails he used like 20 nails on one board
leak waiting to happen
She is good anybody notice the way she maneuvered that hammer.
Good job Tom arrived to make sure the job was done right.
Water will puddle and settle on that flat roof light. It will look a dirty mess in a few weeks. Needs to have some drop on it.
Yes, should have a 3-degree slope minimum.
MKRM27 rain won’t hurt it, it’s 0ppm in my area at least
Doesn’t look like a VELUX unit. What is it?
Excellent work Carly and crew!!!
Why not aligning the skylight with the other skylight on the roof?
It,s in a different room .....
What about a shingled roof???
Thanks for showing how and sharing that
The safety rope on your workers is greater than the height to the ground. So your workers will already fall to the ground, and the insurance will not work ....
something soothing about watching old people work
I wonder of they have skylight into metal roofs. It's hilarious that I have no issues with asphalt, and rubber roofs. Scared of a metal roof screwing it up.
What's the "activator"?
Non-English/American here btw.
The activator is a catalyst chemical that activates the glue on the non cured rubber to make it stronger and more adherent to the existing epdm roof.
It fascinates me the difference in other countries. It must be a warm location with the thickness of the insulation in that roof which would be around 80mm here. It must be a very high-performance board for that thickness. Also, any kerbs where I'm from need a min of 25mm insulation as there's nothing preventing cold bridging and that 45-degree edge also made from insulation as opposed to that piece of timber to prevent the same thing. And any flat roof lights require a 3-degree pitch.
"Bend it over... and nail it"
Deffenision of a sky light , whole in a perfectly good roof.
What?
@Angelo But you could understand it . Sometimes my spelling not so good.
Im going to MAAAAAK it.
Why the hell didnt you put the skylight in before the rubber roof?
Would have made a boring video
As a roofer, It is actually easier and safer(leakage wise) to do it the way they did in the video. It is a huge pain to lay new rubber around curbs.
But as the roofer, wouldn't you have rather done the job. Because you'll get the blame when it leaks? That is the inevitable weak spot, correct?
I love the way you guys keep working to bring the next generation in and super glad that you include women as well. Also, secretely, don't tell anyone, (shhhh), Tommy is my favorite on This Old House in this generation. Hope you have Carly's (sp?) on the show on the regular. It will attract a younger audience and keep things going. Boy, you can sure tell she's been slinging a hammer for quite awhile, back arm at a strange angle she's hitting with confidence. Wish she could have been in on the end. Remember when Tommy WAs the younger generation?
If you didn't know about Tom and Tommy, you'd still be able to tell they worked together a lot, they work like a dream team, like one man with four hands, and they hammer exactly the same.
Tommy is way knowledgeable. Half the time I have no idea what he's doing until it all comes together.
Time for the real entertainment in the comments section where the experts weigh in.
Nah...... Not really. The entertainment are the so called REAL pros who follow rules such as implementing slack safety ropes on a 2/12 pitch that nearly trip them as they attempt to work. Now THATS entertainment !
wonder why they didn't double up at least one of the existing rafters instead of going between.....
Weird.
Because they know what they're doing.
Probably because the design calls for an exact location for the skylight.
@@lidex nah, not in this case.
Shouldn’t those hangers been installed with nails instead of screws?
They are a special screw made for joist hangers.
Why wouldn’t they start with the corners and work there way up
Bring roger back
Roger has been sick for awhile now. He only shows up once in awhile.
MemoGrafix he actually doesn’t show up anymore... the videos you see him in are old ones being uploaded recently
@@someone321 - I've seen a few where he's clearly not well from some illness, assuming those episodes are from last year or 2017 where TOH was transitioning of the female landscaper on TOH. He was doing more of the I guess supervising, not much work.
He is sick
MemoGrafix i agree, he does indeed look very ill
Incomplete instruction on framing layouts. They forgot the width framing layout.
Lose the safety Gear it's dangerous
It's for tv
I reckon they'd hit the ground before all that slack in their safety ropes was taken up!
Put you corners on so wrong on the epdm.
FPO ftw
Just out of curiosity, why does Tommy pulse the trigger of the impact driver , rather than hold the trigger until the screws are driven all the way home?
more control of the driver. Also prevents stripping
makes sure they're getting started straight.
It's not a matter of if a skylight will leak it's a matter of when a skylight will leak
Please do not apply sealant to the skylight lens. How do you suppose someone to take it off? It has a rubber seal inside the lens. Also you say in the video "it doesn't say to do this"
@Joe T skylights tend to leak. Especially on shingle roofs. I work on then weekly.
@Joe T Read B.Thomas comment , when it breaches out the corner sealing leaks . If someone needs sealant to make it work , u should figure out on ur own , that the stuff ur using isnt good .
1:18 I like the way he turned the gorilla's face to the camera
just curious.. where are the safety lines tied off?
To one another. If one goes...they both go!
They looked more for show then anything else.
To air, it is clear they were not attached to anything but not clear enough for OSHA to make a case against them.
Charlie is a little intense!
These episodes never show the finish or final steps like screwing it on or how it works afterwards
Who did the load calcs for the skylight? No permit or engineer, just hack out 3 joists and head them off? Really.
Permit? For a window? Only time I have ever heard of needing a permit for a window is on a second story that overlooks a neighbors yard
Using roller on the rubber would of made you job way better and faster.
Okay okay okay okay
WHERE ARE THE FESTOL DRILL
Harnesses on a flat roof !!!!
$13.5k 1st offense in Ohio without safety around an open roof or on a roof period
@@brownwoodroofingohio8043 Whoa. You'd be more likely to be fined for having any safety here in Bulgaria ;)
22bahfawdiesix. Got it.
😊
I was always told to use nails in hangers and not screws and there not as strong. Can anyone tell me which is correct?
Nails take the friction in , screws just break cause they are way harder . Nails it is .
Anyone who tells you that a nail is stronger than a screw needs to change occupations.!
Sweeeeeeeeett
*So Carly*
! Like everybody has a rubber-sealed roof !
I wonder if tom ever gets mad and just kicks the useless helper off a roof?
mrswolls that’s his brother and company partner Charlie Silva
@@pierreroy8124 i was just kidding, they do great work I'm a big fan 🍻
Female Apprentice:- I'm really excited to do a sky light.
Scene on roof:- two males doing the skylight????
Maybe because of the rain? She could have been on another job site the follow up day.
Its the patriarchy!!! Reeeee
@super extreme David Piacenza - The only Women that don't belong on construction jobsites are those who's ...
Pregnant or bring their children to get in the way
Bimbos - the men won't do the job(s) right, because all their logic & skills will go straight to their *_"stiff members."_*
Not trying to get dirty
Afraid to sweat their *_"fake-up"_* off and/or break a sweat
Construction *_"illiterate"_*
Slow learners
Scared to chip a manicured & polished fingernail
The rest of Us Women who do construction work will do just fine of being part of the construction team.
She was busy down below polishing Normy’s wood.
I always love how this show has the home owners doing the most useless stuff to help.
What homeowner? If you are referencing Carly - they clearly said and showed she was an apprentice, she even had the same company shirt as the other guy...
@@linkinprk1981 hahaha that makes it way worse.
Probably liability reasons. Don't want anyone getting hurt.
I hate how they make it look so easy. :(
Should have put a bead of sealant between that curb and the roof before you screwed it, and probably between every corner and nook and joint of that curb, but then...
Nooorrrmmm!
The people other than Norm must have forgotten the most important rule = to wear safety glasses (and not on top of your head).
Usually they use red chalk blue is used for mansonary work
SLOPPY
Their new videos are horrible!! Everybody in this one seems tired and not wanting to be there.
Tom silva has a Nice care on finishiment . The other guy not
That is SO gonna leak it's not even funny.
Who is this Charlie guy? He seems careless
That's Mr Charlie Silva to you! LOL
Noisy Bar In Avalon Is that Toms son or something?
He’s Tom’s nephew.
It’s his brother. Silva Brothers Contracting
Michael E LaDore he’s Toms nephew
What an embarrassment this show is for young men today ! I understand having a safety rope when working on a MAYBE 6/12 pitch and above but give me a break ! Guys walking on a nearly flat surface....... and moving the rope out of their way to work. Safety is important but they dont show how much time was spent connecting two ropes before they begin. When I was young I roofed a 4 way hip on the second story..... when it began to snow. That was a situation where we needed it. Today guys are unsure just what sex they are.... are told to act more like what used to be seen from ladies.... and install a safty rope when they walk down a street that goes slightly down hill. For one thing you couldnt make much money installing and carrying ropes and other " safety " items. Man up men ! Now if you wear a little purple foam hat when you ride your bike.... you,ve been eating too many Estrogen infused foods in my opinion. When you think that " Following the rules " is a sensible thing we should all do...... you need to take a closer look into who has come up with these rules..... and who REALLY benefits from us keeping on track with them all. Before you all start crying let me remind you that this stuff has become much more prohibitive to finishing our work in a timely manner since I was out there..... imagine ( if you let them ) how much more it will control your work down the road a bit ! What ! LOL..... You thought they were all done making tighter rules and codes !? LOL Wait until your sons get ready to build .
"Water tight"...that's what she said.
purple shirt guy looks he doesn't care just keep pulling and on the way don't like him
Fuhrer bunker