The whole NYADA storyline (particularly Cassie) made me really excited when it started. FINALLY, I thought, Rachel is going to have some actual struggles and character development. I was so wrong, it made her ten times more intolerable.
This! I was so excited for her to be seen as average at best at NYADA. But nope. Everyone quickly turned into, “Omg Rachel! You’re soooo special,” and it was a wasted opportunity.
Stéphanie Adomou she did And she got payed a lot of money And she go more followers on twitter and instagram because of the glee fans And Kate Hudson fans watched glee because of her So it's a win win win
If you look carefully Rachel rolls her eyes after she told someone to lose some weight. It’s brief but Cassandra clearly saw. ( she probably think this freshman did not roll her eyes at me in my class) and sadly it’s how the entertainment business is it’s really stupid but it’s Broadway to most roles you probably have to be quite lean.
Cassandra was a bitch & a drunk and went out of her way to harass Rachel and pick on her! Maybe Rachel did need to open her eyes and realize that she wasn't the star of the show & Cassandra felt she needed to put Rachel in her place but draw a line somewhere. Cassandra purposely went out of her way to treat Rachel like shit and embarrass her in front of the entire class! And I'm sorry but I don't think Cassandra was anything special I'm sorry but I don't.
@@katie2967 Cassandra wasn’t a bitch to me I’m glad she went in on Rachel, Rachel is a terrible person and she called it before Rachel spoke Mr.Schuestar and everybody made her life easier while Cassandra was giving her the correct criticism because in the real world no one is going to give you their hand
@@heatherjones1777 she was too a bitch the only reason why don't think she was is because you don't like Rachel! And there's a difference between giving someone criticism and being a bitch just to be a bitch. And explain to me if it was all based on just criticism and putting Rachel in her place then what was the purpose of her going after Brody? What was the point in all that cuz to me that was completely immature.
I thought how interesting how Kate Hudson played a bitch in the show but in reality she was soo caring to Lea Michelle. When Cory died, Kate even let Lea stay at her house and helped her with her grief. Thats a selfless women
I'm gonna be honest (And I know Rachel's fans will hate it, but I don't care) I was glad Rachel got that reality check. Back in Glee Club she made some classmates feel that way with her "I'm the best" attitude. A taste of her own medicine 😉 I enjoyed it so much.
Dely Doll I like Rachel and I also enjoyed it. She really had to have such of a teacher for telling her that the world isn’t only Ohio, McKinley and Barbara, it’s hard to be a star. Love Cassandra’s cruelty😈❤️😂
First watching this I thought Miss July was cruel. Rewatching it I realized Rachel really needed it. Not because she was untalented but she did her darn best to make her peers seem less worthy in high school. This was refreshing
nah, cassandra was terrible. theres a line between being a good teacher and calling someone out when they made a mistake and bodyshaming someone. there's plenty of over-sized actors in broadway and that comment was so dumb. also, rachel don't do nothing wrong in that moment? she just react to a teacher being a bully.
@@laurine____7543 it's not body shaming if it's an industry or profession that depends on fitness. What do you want her to say " a person in prime physical shape is just as good at dancing as someone who's overweight". If she doesn't say it now, that girl will hear it from a director or producer.
@@fatimaisaacbarros5555 Girl if only you knew. At first I thought she was horrible for body shaming and sleeping with Rachel’s boyfriend but if you notice, the showbiz world is like that exactly. If you can’t keep up or if your feelings get hurt because you’re punching a little above your required weight, you’ll lose and end up back in the small hometown you came from. Because there will always be that guy or girl that is skinny, beautiful, insanely talented and is willing to do even more to get ahead of you. Suck it up or go home is basically what it comes down to
I mean she is in one of yhe better professional programs for musical theatre,and they are doing very simple moves(this is coming by a dancer),u would expect her to be better
Rachel got this reality check and it only made her worst lol. Instead of being like “okay so I’m not the greatest person alive and I need to work harder” she was like “HOW DARE SHE SAY I’M NOT PERFECT? SHE’S A MONSTER”
Rolling you’re eyes at a person who’s body shaming isn’t that diSrESpeCtFUl, what’s disrespectful is to go up to a person and saying you need to lose some pounds “muffintop”
I love this scene. Season 4 Episode 1 felt like a breath of fresh air. It was so exciting to see Rachel alone in NYC, all these new locations, the new cast and the new storylines were well written. Too sad many fans didn't give it a chance and the writers lost interest after sectionals ...
Cassandra should’t have yelled at Lydia for something non talent related and also had a really bad attitude half the time… but she also didn’t coddle Rachel and that was refreshing because Rachel’s character did have a bad attitude
I've heard that dancer Tommy Rall (mostly sung and danced on Broadway but who's film credits include Funny Girl, My Sister Eileen, The Second Greatest Sex, Invitation to Dance, Kiss Me Kate and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers) once said "I think you have to love music and dance because this business is so difficult. If you don't love the art and just want to be a star then I think you're a dead duck." For the record, Donald O'Conner once said that he was 'above Astaire and Kelly' and Gene Kelly once said that he was 'the greatest dancer MGM had ever had'. Jacques D'Amboise of the New York Ballet and founder of the National Dance Institute also commented on his skills in his book 'I was a Dancer'. Rachel wants to be a star, she's made that abundantly clear since episode 1. But sometimes I wonder if she really loves the music and the art more than she loves the spotlight - or at least if she loves to dance as much as she loves to sing. I don't want to sound cruel, but sometimes I feel that she wants to be a star more than she wants to sing. If it's any consolation his words made me doubt Nina from 'Black Swan' more than Rachel, as we really don't see any sign that Nina actually loves dancing.
Nina was telling those restaurant dudes about the ballet so passionately and naively- ofc she loves the art and being a star. People will just find a way to hate on those at the top smh.
@@nimeshsingh4943 true. when I wrote that I was mostly thinking of her mother and the fact that we're supposed to get the idea that she pushed her into it. Restraunt dudes didn't really seem to get that it was important to her though, both seemed to be kind of duds
it wouldve been nice also having storylines with mike struggling to succeed in dance school but Mike wouldve been more accepting of the criticism because performing arts schools are no jokes it gets more challenging every step of the way no matter how much talent or experience you have
Flashback to 'The Red Shoes' - the ballet movie from the 1948, similar in some ways to 'Black Swan' but more of an actual dance movie than a psychological movie with dance doubles. When the main character Vicki comes for a brief teaching session at a prestigious ballet company, she finds the lead dance instructor and tell him that the ballet director must have spoken to him about her and that he'd invited her personally to come in and the instructor says: "Oh, this is too much. He invite them, I teach them, I get rid of them, he forgets them! And now, unhappy girl, you will please go and wait in the wings, where you will find five other young ladies who have also been invited by Mr Lermontov's hospitality."
She's excellent at this role, this is so many actual dance teachers I just know I'm a twisted musical theatre bitch when I'm practically jealous of Rachel for having this teacher
this is what an Art teacher in Major Art School supposed to do so that in the future, the students have nothing to worry about being judge or being criticise. Cassandra July did an amazing job
Ezra aloyevielara one of my art teachers, a graphics teacher told me I should choose a different career, now I’m a graphic designer and this was at SCAD!
Nah. You can be tough on your students without bullying them. Cassandra is not setting any of her students up for success. She's setting them up for a lifetime of self-loathing and disordered eating.
I don't understand why so many in the comment say Rachel's "eye roll" (barely) was disrespectful. Are you implying that you should actually shut your mouth and agree with someone (teacher or not) straight up making anything she can to make you feel crap on the first day, right after she gave nutrition advice (when clearly NOT her job) to a student without knowing that student's background? I agree Rachel needed to hear she was no diva and still needed to train super hard to achieve her real dream. (even if I think you should never say to someone they suck, because that could be a lifetime taint on their well-being) But that particular "drop the pounds" reaction was perfectly understandable and anyone acting as Rachel at that moment would have been perfectly in their own right. It's not because you are a student that you should accept abuse from teachers. At least, that's how I feel about it.
I agree Rachel needed to be taken down a peg or 2 and she had a few good points when it came to Rachel but Cassie was literally just evil.. she was a toxic teacher who was just unnecessarily cruel not just to Rachel but in general. Personal attacks and body shaming aren't the way to teach people
If you didn't understand why Rachel rolled her eyes at Casandra, clearly you didn't learn from when the glee kids stood up against Dakota Stanley early in season 1. Toxic instructors and teachers are not to be tolerated!
I'm late but this is how the industry works. People SHOULD teach like Cassandra. Take it from someone who has relatives who've been on Broadway, Cassandra is practically treating her like a queen compared to Broadway directors and trainers.
@@empathaep1417 i agree... If she were nice nobody would take her seriously, mess around, or just take advantage of her. No matter what it takes.... Assert your dominance over them.
at the end of she couldnt decide between working or college. Rachel is very talented and she will be hired by a lot of people in the future college is only 4 years. Its wrong not to learn, she thinks she doesnt need to know anything else? If she didnt take that tough dance class she wouldnt be better at dancing, shr can sing but she had tp learn how to move better.
I am really terrified how many of you thinks that a bitchy teacher who has nothing constructive to say (she says to Rachel that she sucks on the first lesson - isn't she a teacher who is supposed to teach her dancing? XD) and who is definitely bullying her students - is a reality check? Is this the reality you want? That is disgusting. And a lot of you writes that you enjoyed it. Well, I am really curious if you were enjoying that as well if it was Mercedes or Santana instead of Rachel.
Thank you! I don't understand why so many people praise Cassandra and her teaching methods, yes she had her moments but so did Abby Lee Miller from Dance Moms and the majority of the girls ended up with some kind of trauma from the show. I always skip the scenes with Cassandra when I re-watch Glee because I can't stand her, you can be strict and tough without being rude and mean. It's so unprofessional.
Yeah thank you. Especially the girl in the beginning could get a eating disorder. She can be harsh and honest and expect things, but a little human decency does even Rachel deserve.
@@lolanaenamilo2395 You wanna punch people because they don't like the same characters as you do? Whilst making fun of their favourite characters? How old are you? 8? "If you don't like Elsa as much as I do you're stupid and Anna is stupid! Ha!"
I was so excited for the whole NYADA storyline. We get to see how some characters move on and learn about the real world. Kurt and Rachel get out of Ohio and get into the big city, Rachel finally gets a taste of her own medicine, Kurt has more development as a character, we see the struggles grow between characters like Santana, Kurt, and Rachel, or Kurt and Blaine. If this is how college is really like, I don't know if I'll be ready for it in 2-4 years.
I've been in many plays. Cassandra wasn't just doing her job, she was plain mean. Rachel didn't roll her eyes because she thought she was the best, she rolled her eyes because Cassendra has no right discriminating someone because of their weight. Being mean is being mean. There are a lot of non skinny actresses and Broadway people. If she was doing her job she would of said something about her dancing, singing, or about how her outfit is inappropriate for this line of work. She made a unprofessional mean comment. There's no way around that. Personally Rachel isn't my favorite either, but what's right is right. Rachel's rolling of the eyes was disrespectful but so was Cassandra's comment.
As a teacher at a school where you're trying to pick out the best of the best, being tough on the students is a way of seeing who can take it vs. those who can't. And those who can't will get weeded out as they're probably too soft to make it big. That's how they're able to find their next star pupils.
gk891 There’s a difference between tough love/constructive criticism and toxicity. This is the latter. If one can’t teach without being toxic, then one shouldn’t teach.
john vince Sure, but there are people exactly like this in real life. Telling people they’re fat, untalented, etc. it’s not only toxic, it’s just not constructive. I’ve come across them, all artists of all kinds have. The head of my college dpt was too close to this. All it does is destroy, not build.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 I remember we had a dance teacher with an attitude, not likeable at all, it's almost as if she came to work to be angry and intimidate us! This was at a community college, nothing like NYADA.
People just want to find any reason to hate on Rachel. She rolled her eyes at a teacher that just body shamed a student in front of an entire classroom. Why is Rachel the evil one in this situation?
Nope, as bad as Rachel can be she never bullied anyone else for the weight as far as I can remember and very rarely personally insulted anyone, she was often selfish and stepped over others but never bullied or demeaned them like Cassandra is doing
If you hate Rachel just know that glee let Rachel down, this character could've gone so much further than where it went. She had the least character development out of the lead cast members, and her storyline was so inconsistent it just failed to go where it should've gone. I loved this scene and how she struggled because back home, Rachel was THE star. But in New York, she was just one out of many and has to fight to get that status again, so the fact that she gave up NYADA AND Broadway by the end of season 5 makes zero sense because the Rachel we followed for four seasons wouldn't have done that.
I don't like Rachel as a character but my god that teacher is just horrible. All Cassandra does is insult her students and degrade them, none of what she says is actually constructive criticism. I seriously don't understand why some people like her, there's a difference with being a tough teacher and one who's just a bully!
Okay, there has to be a limit to insulting body weights and all..I mean the 'you suck' honestly was a good reality check and she said it in the 'you suck, but I'm gonna help u' way.
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Is so funny Rachel wanted to be a theatre actress yet she never took it seriously the other aspects of theater other than singing. She took dance classes, I think, but it was never a priority, the same thing with acting.
0:38 is a reference to season 1 episode 16 when kurt says, "you have a week to lose 10 lbs. That's like having to lose one of my butt cheeks" And in that same episode, sue reveals she puts ipecac in her master cleanse shake. th-cam.com/video/dHddwdSmxH8/w-d-xo.html ily the attention to detail!
cassandra's comment about the "muffin top" was uncalled for but rachel was honestly asking to start shit with her rebellious eye roll just right in her face. ive had so many classmates kicking off like this and they don't really care about the other students, they just want to get an "and then everybody clapped" moment and it's cringe
Rachel was the only one preventing me to watch Glee. Now, I watch the preformances in TH-cam to see less of her. This video is satisfying in so many levels.
Imagine a teacher basically telling a student to get bulimia and then everybody celebrating that teacher. Fans always tend to say how awfull Rachel is, by becoming the same (or worst) type of awful. It's pretty ironic.
Like I get it, it’s supposed to be a wake up for Rachel, but it also pushes a narrative that teachers of the arts (dance, music, theatre, film) have to be abusive and harsh. I get so tired seeing that in Ryan Murphy’s work, it just comes off like he just likes to be a bully. 🤷♂️
Rachel wearing a necklace in dance class. I think she took ballet until sophomore year and stopped. It’s shown in early episodes where she initially “quit” glee club she was doing ballet for her role. But never seen again and wasn’t mention to Tina in her rant of how she thought she had a harder/ better worker she is.
She's giving her students a taste of what it'll be like out there if they want to survive in the world of showbusiness. If she was truly mean she wouldn't have written a recommendation for a student when he went to his first audition and wouldn't have hugged him when he got the role.
And here is the beginning of the end of the show. It is about a high school glee club, not some NYC arts school. They need to graduate and move on, there is an unlimited number of talented kids available to keep the show going forever. They threw away a lot of talent to keep Rachel in the plot line. They also needed to keep the competition levels more realistic, you don't go to nationals in three shows, but winning the state would be a big deal too.
That's dancers for you. Their bodies tend to be beautifully toned with being overworked. Look at many of those Vocal Adrenaline dancers and also dancers like Heather Morris and Harry Shum Jr. They all have beautiful bodies!
I came here to contemplate weather or not Schwim knew about this 😂 Alsooooo if anyone should be compared to Schwimmer it’s Blaine. I mean Ross and Blaine bother overuse hair gel 🤷🏻♀️😂
I mean Cassandra was really offensive and also triggering. She shouldn’t have said those things about their weight. Just told them they need to be HEALTHY to do this successfully. I get teaching them this business is a war zone, but assuming a student’s talent, drive, snd personality isn’t what a TEACHER should do. She’s supposed to correct their mistakes and help them do better. They aren’t paying for a dance class to just get put down or humbled. That’s someone else’s job at the college. Her job is to get her students to improve their dancing abilities 🙄 I like how she knew Rachel was entitled from the start, but she was also just a bitch to her when she didn’t show any disrespect (yet). Like who cares if she said she is from Ohio? Uh John Legend, Tracy Chapman? She just said she wants to learn MEANING she knows she is the best thing out there. Cassandra was later in the right with Rachel, but not in this scene. Rachel is so entitled, egotistic, and selfish. Sure, she worked hard but she doesn’t deserve what she got. She then took it all for granted and was disrespectful to every mentor. Cassandra wasn’t putting up with it. She knew somebody had to humble her. That’s why her, Santana, and even Kurt are my favorites cause they know when to put Rachel in her place. I really wish she never got prom queen, almost every solo and win, a second change into NYADA, a broadway lead with no experience, and then a TV offer. She is talented, but not the most talented or the only one who deserves to win. That said, most of her wins were just given to her to shut her up or out of pity.
Yes but she never really proved it. She was just bad or okay. But if she really were to be a good dancer like she claimed to be she would be dancing like brittany and mike. They shouldve just gotten a different actress or make her take dance lessons
@@nohelypardo495 Yeah, there was no hiding what a poor dancer Lea was. She's a fantastic singer and she played Rachel to perfection acting-wise. But her dancing was really awkward.
She should’ve just kept her head down and minded her business instead of rolling her eyes💀😂 Maybe she still would’ve picked on her later in the “school year” anyway but still...💀
This slice of humble pie lasted only a few episodes. And then the Rachel monster trying to impersonate Cassandra appeared and attacked everyone for the remainder of 2 seasons. Good thing Santana can whip it back at Rachel and help put her in her place.
Never watched the show, just listen to the music and watch clips on youtube A lot of comments are about how toxic the theater and dance world is, and that that's how a lot of teachers really teach. If any of you are from those backgrounds, may I ask, why is that? What is the harsh, critical style trying to achieve? Genuinely curious, no offense meant :)
Coming from someone who's had 7+ years of dance experience with plenty of “my way or the highway” type teachers, I really don't know. It never accomplishes anything truly. Sure it may work in the moment but then the student may be afraid to sing, dance, etc ever again in fear of being screamed at for just learning. Of course, that's not to say to coddle your students but to construct them in ways that it will build them up and not break them down. I've know plenty of people who never want to dance again just because of mean teachers. These teachers are supposed to lift spirits, but instead they crush them. I guess their thought process is that “if I'm mean enough then they can handle anything” which is an ignorant way to look at things. Some people do thrive off of that type of teaching, but most do not. It truly depends on the person but even then I would start slow and pick it up once you know what they are capable of.
And the comments this thread with all the "poor, poor Rachel. Cassandra is bullying her.." crap are EXACTLY why the current generation cannot handle ANYTHING. Any time someone so much as cuts a finger, it is straight to the whining and crying and they hurt me attitude. You were coddled. Everyone coddled you because the government was afraid you would break. You weren't taught to handle hardship, losing, competition, insults, bullying, sportsmanship, authority, being told NO....NOTHING. And that's why you can't handle anything now. This? What Cassandra is doing? Is REALITY. Something Rachel never had to come across before COLLEGE and NYC. Nobody ever told her no. Nobody ever told her she sucked. No normal human would ever be able to walk into a glee class with tape over their mouth in protest for not getting their way. What Cassandra did was teach from a reality point of view. That's the real word people. Whether it's Broadway or the corporate office, which is another thing you all can't handle. Stop whining. Suck it up and learn to DEAL. Your future will depend on it.
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The whole NYADA storyline (particularly Cassie) made me really excited when it started. FINALLY, I thought, Rachel is going to have some actual struggles and character development. I was so wrong, it made her ten times more intolerable.
Getting the role she always wanted made her deplorable.
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agenttheater5 right ? i thought i was the only one who didn’t like that
This! I was so excited for her to be seen as average at best at NYADA. But nope. Everyone quickly turned into, “Omg Rachel! You’re soooo special,” and it was a wasted opportunity.
I hated Rachel getting into NYADA at all. I think failing to achieve a dream and going for a plan B is such an important part of growing up.
Kate Hudson really played this role well
Stéphanie Adomou she did
And she got payed a lot of money
And she go more followers on twitter and instagram because of the glee fans
And Kate Hudson fans watched glee because of her
So it's a win win win
She really did
She deserved at least an Emmy nomination.
Kate Hudson is good but Rachel is a better singer
She really really did
She was absolutely EPIC in this role!
The fact that Cassandra knew Rachel was stuck up before she even met her is just.... She got my respect
If you look carefully Rachel rolls her eyes after she told someone to lose some weight. It’s brief but Cassandra clearly saw. ( she probably think this freshman did not roll her eyes at me in my class) and sadly it’s how the entertainment business is it’s really stupid but it’s Broadway to most roles you probably have to be quite lean.
Cassandra was a bitch & a drunk and went out of her way to harass Rachel and pick on her!
Maybe Rachel did need to open her eyes and realize that she wasn't the star of the show & Cassandra felt she needed to put Rachel in her place but draw a line somewhere. Cassandra purposely went out of her way to treat Rachel like shit and embarrass her in front of the entire class! And I'm sorry but I don't think Cassandra was anything special I'm sorry but I don't.
@@katie2967 Cassandra wasn’t a bitch to me I’m glad she went in on Rachel, Rachel is a terrible person and she called it before Rachel spoke Mr.Schuestar and everybody made her life easier while Cassandra was giving her the correct criticism because in the real world no one is going to give you their hand
@@heatherjones1777 she was too a bitch the only reason why don't think she was is because you don't like Rachel! And there's a difference between giving someone criticism and being a bitch just to be a bitch.
And explain to me if it was all based on just criticism and putting Rachel in her place then what was the purpose of her going after Brody? What was the point in all that cuz to me that was completely immature.
Rachel didn’t do anything in that scene to suggest that she was stuck up.
I thought how interesting how Kate Hudson played a bitch in the show but in reality she was soo caring to Lea Michelle. When Cory died, Kate even let Lea stay at her house and helped her with her grief. Thats a selfless women
assyrianprincess omg I didnt know that ... that is sool sweet
Kate usually plays dull nice people what a change !🙂
she hates lea because leas a racist bitch
browniee Lea is not racist
assyrianprincess search it up she has not only been exposed for being racist but also rude in general by all the glee cast. including late hudson
I'm gonna be honest (And I know Rachel's fans will hate it, but I don't care) I was glad Rachel got that reality check. Back in Glee Club she made some classmates feel that way with her "I'm the best" attitude. A taste of her own medicine 😉 I enjoyed it so much.
Dely Doll I like Rachel and I also enjoyed it. She really had to have such of a teacher for telling her that the world isn’t only Ohio, McKinley and Barbara, it’s hard to be a star. Love Cassandra’s cruelty😈❤️😂
Yes oml that annoying brat deserved this loved Cassandra😍❤️
Not only that but Rachel did suck at dancing. She was written to be good but it's clear to anyone with vision that she isn't good at all.
Dely Doll same😁🤗
Yes I thought to myself oooh the princess doesn't get the worship that she got back home gonna be some bedtime pouts and tears
Just realized that Rachel rolls her eyes at Cassandra lol
I mean she really thinks that she won't see it.
"Thank you for paying the rent on my loft in Soho" 😂
First watching this I thought Miss July was cruel. Rewatching it I realized Rachel really needed it. Not because she was untalented but she did her darn best to make her peers seem less worthy in high school. This was refreshing
Cassandra literaly body shaming her studient
nah, cassandra was terrible. theres a line between being a good teacher and calling someone out when they made a mistake and bodyshaming someone. there's plenty of over-sized actors in broadway and that comment was so dumb. also, rachel don't do nothing wrong in that moment? she just react to a teacher being a bully.
@@laurine____7543 it's not body shaming if it's an industry or profession that depends on fitness. What do you want her to say " a person in prime physical shape is just as good at dancing as someone who's overweight". If she doesn't say it now, that girl will hear it from a director or producer.
@@solarydays you literaly fat shame yourself overweight dance studient by saying that😂😭
@@fatimaisaacbarros5555
Girl if only you knew. At first I thought she was horrible for body shaming and sleeping with Rachel’s boyfriend but if you notice, the showbiz world is like that exactly. If you can’t keep up or if your feelings get hurt because you’re punching a little above your required weight, you’ll lose and end up back in the small hometown you came from. Because there will always be that guy or girl that is skinny, beautiful, insanely talented and is willing to do even more to get ahead of you. Suck it up or go home is basically what it comes down to
I always cracked up when she called rachel schwimmer lol
can't relate damn she does kinda look like David Schwimmer though whoever wrote that joke is petty af lmao
@@Platinum400 I know lmao
Poor David Schwimmer...
@@jennyj1009 ikr, to insult him like that lmao
@@donnavan8318 fr ☠️ smh 😂
I like how Cassandra gives Rachel a dose of reality: that she isn’t the best
She was never. Will is a bad teacher for making her believe that.
Speaking as someone who's been in the acting industry for 13 years. The snobbery of drama school graduates never ceases to amaze me.
Ok but I love how she said “you suck”...sis that’s the point of a class, to learn and get better 💀
I mean she is in one of yhe better professional programs for musical theatre,and they are doing very simple moves(this is coming by a dancer),u would expect her to be better
Rachel got this reality check and it only made her worst lol. Instead of being like “okay so I’m not the greatest person alive and I need to work harder” she was like “HOW DARE SHE SAY I’M NOT PERFECT? SHE’S A MONSTER”
I love that Cassandra clocked Rachel's stuck up attitude before she even have a real conversation with her.
Much love to Cassandra for giving Rachel tough love mainly with the fact that Rachel's selfishness is her problem
Wtf!?
I bet if cassie had said that to anyone other then rachel people would be bitching up a storm.@@user-sc8zj9sr5w
Rolling you’re eyes at a person who’s body shaming isn’t that diSrESpeCtFUl, what’s disrespectful is to go up to a person and saying you need to lose some pounds “muffintop”
@@Emma-zt8yk why did you rewrite this comment? I saw this same exact one under another comment
@@nohelypardo495 because I wanted to say the exact same thing
I love this scene. Season 4 Episode 1 felt like a breath of fresh air. It was so exciting to see Rachel alone in NYC, all these new locations, the new cast and the new storylines were well written. Too sad many fans didn't give it a chance and the writers lost interest after sectionals ...
0:02 that asian guy in the gray tank top was fucking HOTTTTTT
Thanks ,now i can stop looking 🤦
Omg, Cassandra at 0:50 looks like Britney Spears
Matheus André maybe it is Brittany playing her
Eh?
More like Britney s.peirce as Britney spears
I thought she was Britney lol
I really like Miss July.
Cassandra should’t have yelled at Lydia for something non talent related and also had a really bad attitude half the time… but she also didn’t coddle Rachel and that was refreshing because Rachel’s character did have a bad attitude
I've heard that dancer Tommy Rall (mostly sung and danced on Broadway but who's film credits include Funny Girl, My Sister Eileen, The Second Greatest Sex, Invitation to Dance, Kiss Me Kate and Seven Brides for Seven Brothers) once said "I think you have to love music and dance because this business is so difficult. If you don't love the art and just want to be a star then I think you're a dead duck." For the record, Donald O'Conner once said that he was 'above Astaire and Kelly' and Gene Kelly once said that he was 'the greatest dancer MGM had ever had'. Jacques D'Amboise of the New York Ballet and founder of the National Dance Institute also commented on his skills in his book 'I was a Dancer'. Rachel wants to be a star, she's made that abundantly clear since episode 1. But sometimes I wonder if she really loves the music and the art more than she loves the spotlight - or at least if she loves to dance as much as she loves to sing. I don't want to sound cruel, but sometimes I feel that she wants to be a star more than she wants to sing. If it's any consolation his words made me doubt Nina from 'Black Swan' more than Rachel, as we really don't see any sign that Nina actually loves dancing.
Nina was telling those restaurant dudes about the ballet so passionately and naively- ofc she loves the art and being a star. People will just find a way to hate on those at the top smh.
@@nimeshsingh4943 true. when I wrote that I was mostly thinking of her mother and the fact that we're supposed to get the idea that she pushed her into it.
Restraunt dudes didn't really seem to get that it was important to her though, both seemed to be kind of duds
it wouldve been nice also having storylines with mike struggling to succeed in dance school but Mike wouldve been more accepting of the criticism because performing arts schools are no jokes it gets more challenging every step of the way no matter how much talent or experience you have
Flashback to 'The Red Shoes' - the ballet movie from the 1948, similar in some ways to 'Black Swan' but more of an actual dance movie than a psychological movie with dance doubles.
When the main character Vicki comes for a brief teaching session at a prestigious ballet company, she finds the lead dance instructor and tell him that the ballet director must have spoken to him about her and that he'd invited her personally to come in and the instructor says:
"Oh, this is too much. He invite them, I teach them, I get rid of them, he forgets them! And now, unhappy girl, you will please go and wait in the wings, where you will find five other young ladies who have also been invited by Mr Lermontov's hospitality."
She's excellent at this role, this is so many actual dance teachers
I just know I'm a twisted musical theatre bitch when I'm practically jealous of Rachel for having this teacher
this is what an Art teacher in Major Art School supposed to do so that in the future, the students have nothing to worry about being judge or being criticise. Cassandra July did an amazing job
Ezra aloyevielara one of my art teachers, a graphics teacher told me I should choose a different career, now I’m a graphic designer and this was at SCAD!
Not at all true, Ezra.
@@morkmindy1749 if u r referring to high school art teacher, Nah! I am referring to university level lecturers.
Nah. You can be tough on your students without bullying them. Cassandra is not setting any of her students up for success. She's setting them up for a lifetime of self-loathing and disordered eating.
I don't understand why so many in the comment say Rachel's "eye roll" (barely) was disrespectful. Are you implying that you should actually shut your mouth and agree with someone (teacher or not) straight up making anything she can to make you feel crap on the first day, right after she gave nutrition advice (when clearly NOT her job) to a student without knowing that student's background?
I agree Rachel needed to hear she was no diva and still needed to train super hard to achieve her real dream. (even if I think you should never say to someone they suck, because that could be a lifetime taint on their well-being)
But that particular "drop the pounds" reaction was perfectly understandable and anyone acting as Rachel at that moment would have been perfectly in their own right. It's not because you are a student that you should accept abuse from teachers.
At least, that's how I feel about it.
Kate Hudson played this part really well. I detested this character so much.
I agree Rachel needed to be taken down a peg or 2 and she had a few good points when it came to Rachel but Cassie was literally just evil.. she was a toxic teacher who was just unnecessarily cruel not just to Rachel but in general. Personal attacks and body shaming aren't the way to teach people
kate hudson played the dance teacher so well omg.
If you didn't understand why Rachel rolled her eyes at Casandra, clearly you didn't learn from when the glee kids stood up against Dakota Stanley early in season 1. Toxic instructors and teachers are not to be tolerated!
I'm late but this is how the industry works. People SHOULD teach like Cassandra. Take it from someone who has relatives who've been on Broadway, Cassandra is practically treating her like a queen compared to Broadway directors and trainers.
@@empathaep1417 i agree... If she were nice nobody would take her seriously, mess around, or just take advantage of her. No matter what it takes.... Assert your dominance over them.
at the end of she couldnt decide between working or college. Rachel is very talented and she will be hired by a lot of people in the future college is only 4 years. Its wrong not to learn, she thinks she doesnt need to know anything else? If she didnt take that tough dance class she wouldnt be better at dancing, shr can sing but she had tp learn how to move better.
Jane b I agree she needed it she said so herself
At NYADA U had to become a really good all round performer...Rachel had to become a better dancer...and it was only the first day.
For Rachel it was just hitting home that she had to up her game as a dancer it she was gonna get through school.
I am really terrified how many of you thinks that a bitchy teacher who has nothing constructive to say (she says to Rachel that she sucks on the first lesson - isn't she a teacher who is supposed to teach her dancing? XD) and who is definitely bullying her students - is a reality check? Is this the reality you want? That is disgusting. And a lot of you writes that you enjoyed it. Well, I am really curious if you were enjoying that as well if it was Mercedes or Santana instead of Rachel.
Thank you! I don't understand why so many people praise Cassandra and her teaching methods, yes she had her moments but so did Abby Lee Miller from Dance Moms and the majority of the girls ended up with some kind of trauma from the show. I always skip the scenes with Cassandra when I re-watch Glee because I can't stand her, you can be strict and tough without being rude and mean. It's so unprofessional.
Yeah thank you. Especially the girl in the beginning could get a eating disorder. She can be harsh and honest and expect things, but a little human decency does even Rachel deserve.
Yes being harsh and strict is okay but her teaching technique is really poor.
I swear I want to punch all of the glee fandom. All they do is jaye on rachel and finn and idolise lazycedes and meantana
@@lolanaenamilo2395 You wanna punch people because they don't like the same characters as you do? Whilst making fun of their favourite characters? How old are you? 8? "If you don't like Elsa as much as I do you're stupid and Anna is stupid! Ha!"
I was so excited for the whole NYADA storyline. We get to see how some characters move on and learn about the real world. Kurt and Rachel get out of Ohio and get into the big city, Rachel finally gets a taste of her own medicine, Kurt has more development as a character, we see the struggles grow between characters like Santana, Kurt, and Rachel, or Kurt and Blaine.
If this is how college is really like, I don't know if I'll be ready for it in 2-4 years.
I've been in many plays. Cassandra wasn't just doing her job, she was plain mean. Rachel didn't roll her eyes because she thought she was the best, she rolled her eyes because Cassendra has no right discriminating someone because of their weight. Being mean is being mean. There are a lot of non skinny actresses and Broadway people. If she was doing her job she would of said something about her dancing, singing, or about how her outfit is inappropriate for this line of work. She made a unprofessional mean comment. There's no way around that. Personally Rachel isn't my favorite either, but what's right is right. Rachel's rolling of the eyes was disrespectful but so was Cassandra's comment.
As a teacher at a school where you're trying to pick out the best of the best, being tough on the students is a way of seeing who can take it vs. those who can't. And those who can't will get weeded out as they're probably too soft to make it big. That's how they're able to find their next star pupils.
gk891 There’s a difference between tough love/constructive criticism and toxicity. This is the latter. If one can’t teach without being toxic, then one shouldn’t teach.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 Cassandra was just a GLEE character with entertainment value, like Sue Sylvester.
john vince Sure, but there are people exactly like this in real life. Telling people they’re fat, untalented, etc. it’s not only toxic, it’s just not constructive. I’ve come across them, all artists of all kinds have. The head of my college dpt was too close to this. All it does is destroy, not build.
@@jenniferhiemstra5228 I remember we had a dance teacher with an attitude, not likeable at all, it's almost as if she came to work to be angry and intimidate us! This was at a community college, nothing like NYADA.
Cassandra is one of those college professors that give the kids who peaked in high school a reality check.
Now that's love at first sight
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
yass kassandra thanks for yelling at rachel
"Im not coming down here to help u im coming down here to give u a big new york city welcome...u suck" 🤣🤣 LMAO
Kate hudson really nailed this role
I thought the Rachel critiques were on point but the body shaming would hurt me lol I couldn’t handle drama school
People just want to find any reason to hate on Rachel. She rolled her eyes at a teacher that just body shamed a student in front of an entire classroom. Why is Rachel the evil one in this situation?
Because Rachel does the exact same thing to all the other Glee kids. She was hypocritical.
and now rachel only cares because she now realizes she's no longer the most talented fucker in the room
You think Rachel was in a selfless moment?
Nope, as bad as Rachel can be she never bullied anyone else for the weight as far as I can remember and very rarely personally insulted anyone, she was often selfish and stepped over others but never bullied or demeaned them like Cassandra is doing
If you hate Rachel just know that glee let Rachel down, this character could've gone so much further than where it went. She had the least character development out of the lead cast members, and her storyline was so inconsistent it just failed to go where it should've gone. I loved this scene and how she struggled because back home, Rachel was THE star. But in New York, she was just one out of many and has to fight to get that status again, so the fact that she gave up NYADA AND Broadway by the end of season 5 makes zero sense because the Rachel we followed for four seasons wouldn't have done that.
I don't like Rachel as a character but my god that teacher is just horrible. All Cassandra does is insult her students and degrade them, none of what she says is actually constructive criticism. I seriously don't understand why some people like her, there's a difference with being a tough teacher and one who's just a bully!
Kate Hudson is a really good actress and I love her so much
Cassie such wicked
YES CASSIE DRAG HER TO THE GROUND
That's what Rachel gets for rolling her eyes
She rool eyes at body shaming, i would too
Rachel: Roles her eyes at the teacher
Cassandra: I’mma teach this girl what’s it’s like to not live a fantasy where she’s the star
You need a thick skin on Broadway, Cassandra isn't going easy on anyone
Okay, there has to be a limit to insulting body weights and all..I mean the 'you suck' honestly was a good reality check and she said it in the 'you suck, but I'm gonna help u' way.
Hate the body shaming but unfortunately that's what the dance world is like.
Santana approves!
0:42 I didn't see it the first couple times, but Rachel rolls her eyes at Cassandra.
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off."
- Cassandra July
serviamo tutti il titolo del video postato da questo ammiratore di Glee io personalmente non ho mai visto questo show o qualsiasi cosa sia in ogni caso non rappresenta i miei gusti in quanto cinematografici o di piccolo schermo...💀☠️🌔🛸☯️👽☯️🛸🌖☠️💀
Is so funny Rachel wanted to be a theatre actress yet she never took it seriously the other aspects of theater other than singing. She took dance classes, I think, but it was never a priority, the same thing with acting.
0:38 is a reference to season 1 episode 16 when kurt says, "you have a week to lose 10 lbs. That's like having to lose one of my butt cheeks" And in that same episode, sue reveals she puts ipecac in her master cleanse shake. th-cam.com/video/dHddwdSmxH8/w-d-xo.html ily the attention to detail!
cassandra's comment about the "muffin top" was uncalled for but rachel was honestly asking to start shit with her rebellious eye roll just right in her face. ive had so many classmates kicking off like this and they don't really care about the other students, they just want to get an "and then everybody clapped" moment and it's cringe
Okay so Rachel being annoyed at the teacher bullying a child puts her in the wrong? What the fuck is wrong with you
Rachel was the only one preventing me to watch Glee. Now, I watch the preformances in TH-cam to see less of her. This video is satisfying in so many levels.
Kate Hudson would SLAY as Velma Kelly in CHICAGO on Broadway!!! Cassandra always reminds me of Velma's mannerisms.
you cant tell me rachel didnt deserve that either she did have a stuck up attitude
0:56 ohhhh you did not just diss shwim like that helll nah 🤣
Yes Rachel is stuck up and entitled. But Cassandra is a bully. Period.
i went to a performing arts high school in nyc. The Fame school. Trust me this is nothing compared to how bad it can get 🥵
Anybody knows the music?❤️
Though that I still like rachel its just that she feels like she is the only STAR
Jahsuwan Williams THANK YOU LOVE HER BUT SHES GOTTA THIS BITCHY ATTITUDE THAT REMINDS ME OF ME 😂
@@Isabella-bk5lc its not bitchy... Just annoying ans arrogant
Imagine a teacher basically telling a student to get bulimia and then everybody celebrating that teacher. Fans always tend to say how awfull Rachel is, by becoming the same (or worst) type of awful. It's pretty ironic.
Can u add Kurt & Blaine Scenes From 4x01
Was I the only one confused when Rachel got into that dance class when in all the previous Glee seasons she was never shown dancing ballet?
She literally was tho 😂 in season one
@@jacobplays6917 And her ballet was really awful in that episode.
@@gk891 well she was still in it tho 🥲😅
Like I get it, it’s supposed to be a wake up for Rachel, but it also pushes a narrative that teachers of the arts (dance, music, theatre, film) have to be abusive and harsh. I get so tired seeing that in Ryan Murphy’s work, it just comes off like he just likes to be a bully. 🤷♂️
Rachel wearing a necklace in dance class. I think she took ballet until sophomore year and stopped. It’s shown in early episodes where she initially “quit” glee club she was doing ballet for her role. But never seen again and wasn’t mention to Tina in her rant of how she thought she had a harder/ better worker she is.
I love her Cassandra is the 2nd version of sue sylvester
Oh myy goosh whats the backround song
Noah 3x miss amani: come on now
Does anybody know the name of the music please?
'Come on now' by Miss amani
Thank you very much!
I just hated that dance teacher. I mean she was just mean and not even likeable.
Esmeralda2diamon i think that was the point lol
She's giving her students a taste of what it'll be like out there if they want to survive in the world of showbusiness. If she was truly mean she wouldn't have written a recommendation for a student when he went to his first audition and wouldn't have hugged him when he got the role.
Let's not forget that Cassandra had struggles of her own...she was an alcoholic!
@@dahmeg7801 Still doesn't excuse her to body shame people.
And here is the beginning of the end of the show. It is about a high school glee club, not some NYC arts school. They need to graduate and move on, there is an unlimited number of talented kids available to keep the show going forever. They threw away a lot of talent to keep Rachel in the plot line.
They also needed to keep the competition levels more realistic, you don't go to nationals in three shows, but winning the state would be a big deal too.
Does anyone know what thr song that plays in the background is?
What’s the music ?
After telling that girl about rice cakes and ipecac I thought she was gonna tell Rachel she had a “poo belly” 💀 r.i.p. Scream Queens
Omg, hold up hold up, can we just talk about how hot the guys from there? Like damnnn look at those muscles and sexynesssssss
That's dancers for you. Their bodies tend to be beautifully toned with being overworked. Look at many of those Vocal Adrenaline dancers and also dancers like Heather Morris and Harry Shum Jr. They all have beautiful bodies!
Kate hussen beatiful love
I came here to contemplate weather or not Schwim knew about this 😂 Alsooooo if anyone should be compared to Schwimmer it’s Blaine. I mean Ross and Blaine bother overuse hair gel 🤷🏻♀️😂
Kaka Hutson play is glee Rachel dance. teacher Is NYADA is New York
Kate Hutson Play Cassandra is glee Rachel dance teacher NYADA New York C
"Ohio? That's even worse...."
Hahahahahhahaha
Although I agree that Rachel needed a taste of reality, in 90% sure actual dance classes aren’t like that.
Whats the background song
In reality Kate Is sooo nice
Ok but does someone know the guy at 0:03 ?
ms july was made for kate!
I mean Cassandra was really offensive and also triggering. She shouldn’t have said those things about their weight. Just told them they need to be HEALTHY to do this successfully. I get teaching them this business is a war zone, but assuming a student’s talent, drive, snd personality isn’t what a TEACHER should do. She’s supposed to correct their mistakes and help them do better. They aren’t paying for a dance class to just get put down or humbled. That’s someone else’s job at the college. Her job is to get her students to improve their dancing abilities 🙄
I like how she knew Rachel was entitled from the start, but she was also just a bitch to her when she didn’t show any disrespect (yet). Like who cares if she said she is from Ohio? Uh John Legend, Tracy Chapman? She just said she wants to learn MEANING she knows she is the best thing out there. Cassandra was later in the right with Rachel, but not in this scene.
Rachel is so entitled, egotistic, and selfish. Sure, she worked hard but she doesn’t deserve what she got. She then took it all for granted and was disrespectful to every mentor. Cassandra wasn’t putting up with it. She knew somebody had to humble her. That’s why her, Santana, and even Kurt are my favorites cause they know when to put Rachel in her place. I really wish she never got prom queen, almost every solo and win, a second change into NYADA, a broadway lead with no experience, and then a TV offer. She is talented, but not the most talented or the only one who deserves to win. That said, most of her wins were just given to her to shut her up or out of pity.
Bro didn't rachel say she took dance classes as a kid in her intro monologue
Yes but she never really proved it. She was just bad or okay. But if she really were to be a good dancer like she claimed to be she would be dancing like brittany and mike. They shouldve just gotten a different actress or make her take dance lessons
@@nohelypardo495 Yeah, there was no hiding what a poor dancer Lea was. She's a fantastic singer and she played Rachel to perfection acting-wise. But her dancing was really awkward.
Song pliz at 00:01
yasser Leo Miss Amani-Come on Now
cennetyaren thank you so much
She should’ve just kept her head down and minded her business instead of rolling her eyes💀😂 Maybe she still would’ve picked on her later in the “school year” anyway but still...💀
0:38 what are these ?
Healthy food. Shes telling her to only eat that because shes "fat" and needs to lose weight because its probably weighing her down.
I know this is just a storyline, but I love seeing her being treated like shit. You know, all things considered. 🥰
This slice of humble pie lasted only a few episodes. And then the Rachel monster trying to impersonate Cassandra appeared and attacked everyone for the remainder of 2 seasons. Good thing Santana can whip it back at Rachel and help put her in her place.
Never watched the show, just listen to the music and watch clips on youtube
A lot of comments are about how toxic the theater and dance world is, and that that's how a lot of teachers really teach. If any of you are from those backgrounds, may I ask, why is that? What is the harsh, critical style trying to achieve?
Genuinely curious, no offense meant :)
Coming from someone who's had 7+ years of dance experience with plenty of “my way or the highway” type teachers, I really don't know. It never accomplishes anything truly. Sure it may work in the moment but then the student may be afraid to sing, dance, etc ever again in fear of being screamed at for just learning. Of course, that's not to say to coddle your students but to construct them in ways that it will build them up and not break them down. I've know plenty of people who never want to dance again just because of mean teachers. These teachers are supposed to lift spirits, but instead they crush them. I guess their thought process is that “if I'm mean enough then they can handle anything” which is an ignorant way to look at things. Some people do thrive off of that type of teaching, but most do not. It truly depends on the person but even then I would start slow and pick it up once you know what they are capable of.
I don't get it, Why David Shwimmer?
She want to tell her that she is a joke 🙂
And the comments this thread with all the "poor, poor Rachel. Cassandra is bullying her.." crap are EXACTLY why the current generation cannot handle ANYTHING. Any time someone so much as cuts a finger, it is straight to the whining and crying and they hurt me attitude. You were coddled. Everyone coddled you because the government was afraid you would break. You weren't taught to handle hardship, losing, competition, insults, bullying, sportsmanship, authority, being told NO....NOTHING. And that's why you can't handle anything now. This? What Cassandra is doing? Is REALITY. Something Rachel never had to come across before COLLEGE and NYC. Nobody ever told her no. Nobody ever told her she sucked. No normal human would ever be able to walk into a glee class with tape over their mouth in protest for not getting their way. What Cassandra did was teach from a reality point of view. That's the real word people. Whether it's Broadway or the corporate office, which is another thing you all can't handle.
Stop whining. Suck it up and learn to DEAL. Your future will depend on it.
Kate hubson
I never approved of teacher's being unnecessarily cruel with their criticism but... Rachel was so awful that I couldn't bring myself to feel bad.