I don't think she was actually "stupid." There's been some really great analyses/interpretations of her character written by themostrandomfandom on Tumblr.
don’t let the demons out of your basement :D I think of Charlotte Kemp Muhl with this statement. She comes across as “ditzy,” but is actually quite intelligent.
it's funny because the directors told Naya (Santana) to slap Corey (Finn) but he nor any of the other cast members knew she was going to slap him exept for her and the directors
@Student HannahBeatrix Valladolid your mindset is the EXACT same as Vanessa. It may be hard to hear but judging on what you’re saying I didn’t even lie.
@Student HannahBeatrix Valladolid I never one said you were being rude? I said that your comment was insensitive and lacked empathy so even if that wasn’t the intent take responsibility and stop arguing your point because that’s how it came across to me and other people
@Hungry Hippo .. If you're going to quote someone , do it correctly. Like you didn't even try lol .. She says " I'm not interested in any labels unless it's on something I shoplift "
Santana and her overall persona made this show sixty times better, she’s hot, multidimensional, of mixed race, a bitch but in a caring way.. she’s literally the best character in the show, also her character development... *chefs kisses*
Finn had no right and they did not do her justice she was being suspended for slapping Finn but what about all the other times that characters got in physical fights and in later episodes when other characters had a physical fights they had no consequences what so ever.
Also when Finn outed Santana it didn't even seem to cross Finns mind how it would have affected her until in later episodes like she could have reacted the way Dave did when he try to kill himself after being outed, also if the fact that she forgive him for outing her after he sang a sad song is so stupid.
Nicole Newsome that’s not necessarily true. i agree what finn did was terrible but she threatened karaofsky (idk if i spelled it right) to out him if he didn’t “date” her. so to say she wouldn’t stoop that low is definitely wrong.
@@steph8595 yeah she threatnened him but she would have never done it, because she told him that "they play on the same team" so if she outed him she knew that Dave could have easily done the same thing to her
Nobody ah yes, body shaming the conventionally attractive guy is just as bad as putting someone in a situation where they could face societal rejection and literal assault 🙄
yeah santana teased finn for being "fat" but that was no reason for him to out her. he could have easily came back at her with a silly jab but he had completely malicious intent and knew the weight of what he was saying. santana's mean one-liners were for her to deflect her feelings and maintain her bitchy cheerleader persona and also to make people laugh & like her. plus the idea of finn, a thin and conventionally attractive dude, being fat is ridiculous! while not MALICIOUS to finn intentionally, santana was not perfect. once she realized that her humor was actually hurting her friend's feeligs she should have pulled back. HOWEVER calling finn fat did not have the potential to ruin his life. the fact that her outed her in a hallway at a school where gay students get verbally and physically assaulted is inexcusable. so many people lose their family, friends, livelihood and safety when they are outed at times when they are not ready to do so! santana is not a saint but regardless of what anybody does, NOBODY deserves to be outed. some straight fans love to defend finn in that episode but they simply do not understand what being outed feels like and how it violates lgbt+ people's dignity. EDIT: yall- i'm not excusing or defenfing santana for threatening to out karofsky. that was messed up and she is totally a bully! this comment is not saying shes an amazing sweet person. i'm just stating the fact that OUTING SOMEONE IS NEVER OKAY, no matter who they are. even if theyre a bully. finn had no right to out her bc no one ever has the right to out anybody.
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. That's what i was trying to say all along. Finn was way out of line. Santana never stooped that low as Finn did virus
As a gay woman who was outed by my family to my family I relate to Santana's storyline but she was an AWFUL person. All she did was bully people. Karofsky was much more sympathetic and I felt for him more. I'm very grateful for the storyline of a teenage girl struggling with being gay and how it's helped people. It doesn't take away from how she was a bully the entire show.
I really hate this argument. Santana was a BITCH, she had it coming for her. You can’t just endlessly insult people and expect to not get shit thrown at you back in return.
santana was literally blackmailing and threatening to out Karofsky. Like she should know the damage of outing someone. obviously that doesn't justify what finn did which was horrible - but santana threatening to out Karofsky is disgusting
i dont think yall understand the weight of what finn did. coming out is supposed to be you accepting yourself and being brave enough to endure the judgement and disapproval that you might get from other people. it's supposed to be self-acceptance self-love and finn just took all that away from her because she hurt his feelings. it is in no way justified
Aditi Hrishi ok and? how does the fact that she was blackmailing karofsky justify what finn did. she didnt deserve to get outed no matter what. no one does. plus its different because the situations weren't the same. santana did it so she could get smth from him and keep her bitchy attitude ( im not trying to justify what she did im just trying to explain her reasons) plus she DIDNT out him. finn on the other hand wanted to hurt santana and because this was the only thing he had on her he didnt hesitate and didnt realise what the consequences were. finn was in the wrong end of story
Aditi Hrishi “*but*”? It’s not but, she didn’t do it and she most likely wouldn’t have because she understands the weight. She didn’t deserve that and find did it purely because he was stupid and wanted revenge. That’s it. Nobody should have to do that and it’s clear she was struggling with those emotions already. She’s lucky to have been in such a supportive environment and lucky that there were other lgbtq kids there too.
Why can't we say that yes Santana was wrong in threatening and yes Finn was definitely wrong in actually doing it. They were both wrong because it's wrong to out someone. I think it sucks that the only thing that happened to Finn was that he was slapped, like Santana never held a grudge after she just automatically forgave him? I feel like ultimately it was THE SHOW'S responsibility to make the audience realize how unacceptable it is to out someone. The audience feels Santana's initial horror but after the slap (which they make seem like a huuuge deal) was punishment enough for being outed. Also the fact that Santana threatened to out someone was also taken lightly to an extent. So I feel that it's safe to say that the writing fell short on tackling how imperative it is to NOT out someone
Finn really didn't think about the consequences of his actions when he outed Santana like that. It really goes to show how we need to educate people on the dangers the LGBTQ+ youth face everyday, and every time I watch the scene with Santana in Sue's office it just breaks my heart.
Exactly. I'm sensing that people are under the impression that he intentionally set out to ruin her relationship with her parents and extended family as well as the school... And yeah he definitely wanted to hurt her and should be reprimanded for outing her (especially considering what it could lead to), I don't excuse Santana saying those intense jabs. The psychological ramifications of bullying are incredibly real and shouldn't be downplayed because "tolerance". I don't mean to rant but I feel like we (the LGBTQIA community) tend to excuse certain horrific acts of violence in the name of other acts of violence...
Finn didn’t out Santana? He only told Santana she was gay… the girl who made that tape was the one who outed her!! By listening in on their conversation!
I don't like how people are okay with Finn outing Santana. My brother outed me to my family and I almost became homeless and disowned. I was beaten up and berated by my own relatives for not having any control on who I have feelings for. What Finn did is deplorable. If he outed me like this I'd be making sure that there'd be two kids in the Glee club using a wheelchair.
Angelo Sam I will say this I don’t agree with lgbt+ but that’s just my religion. But I would never out someone. That is horrible and I’m so glad you seem to be ok now.
@Kristen Hicks oh wow he used a homophobic slur that's used to discriminate gay men in front of a gay man. you really think he was talking to the blanket??💀💀💀
@@Cecilia-ld4uu listen Finn outing Santana was awful. But his blow up at Kurt was justified. Kurt was blatantly hitting on him CONTINUOUSLY knowing that he was straight. Kurt didn't care and was determined to change his sexuality to the point where he set their parents up so that they would move in together and have to share a room. So yeah Finn blew up because he felt like his mother was replacing his dad, and Kurt was being super creepy and aggressive towards him. He felt trapped and lashed out, and while I do not use the word he used, even in his lashing out he did not call Kurt that word just a blanket. So yes Finn shouldn't have said it, but I get why he did and Kurt was definitely the one in the wrong in that situation
@@dramamole i totally get finn lashing out because kurt was being creepy and making him uncomfortable. i would've totally been by his side if he didn't use a slur TWICE. there's never an excuse to use a slur, and trust me he was not calling that blanket the slur, because if that blanket hadn't belonged to a gay man he would've never used that slur. he didn't have the same reaction with rachel in the second season, when she was constantly trying to get with him when he had made it clear that he didn't want to be with her, even though she was being even more insistent of kurt, kissing him without his consent twice. i get him lashing out at kurt, but the use of slurs, watching as kurt got bullied without doing anything and outing santana is more than enough proof of his internalized homophobia.
I disliked Finn right after he outed Santana, I can’t stand him anymore. I’m a closeted bisexual and I will never tell anybody, especially my extremely homophobic family. If anybody outed me I would be disowned and so, and someone else may get it worse like getting abused and worse. Don’t ever out anyone EVER, it literally can be serious trouble for some. NEVER OUT SOMEONE.
Outing anyone is fucked. I was outed to my whole school. I had to move schools because of how awful people were to me. My family luckily has always had support for me. I'm so sorry that your family doesn't do that. There is nothing wrong with you. Love is love. I hope that you can find your way away from that type of mindset.
@@notwerkinginthishouse8634 its not weird. everyone knows youtube is openly homophobic especially over gay males. it's so messed up, as someone who watches yaoi (boys love, just gayness) nothing is inappropriate about the word whatsoever but people have to say y*oi or somehow sensor it to be on youtube. sooooo homophobic i hate this shitty platform.
The way Santana cries is heartbreaking. Like... We all know how strong she is. We are used to it. But every now and then someone comes along to tear down her defenses. And I cannot see her crying without me crying too. She sobs and looks trapped. It's the way she fears her own feelings what makes her sadness even deeper.
the fact that finn KNOWS how bad kurt and blaine are bullied for being gay but he still outed santana is what makes me angry. i hate how he’s supposed to be a “good guy” who is a “reformed bully bc he just wanted to be popular and didn’t wanna get bullied himself” and when he got bullied for being in glee and being called gay and stuff. he KNOWS the rampant homophobia in that school, in that TOWN, and he still outed her. he experienced the bullying to a way lesser extent, but he should know what it’s like and how awful it could’ve been for her. it isn’t the fact that she’s also horrible, it’s the fact that finn stooped to her level of horrible.
@@miabrooke1591 while outing someone is very bad i’m quite sure she would’ve done the same before she knew she was a lesbian. i mean, she’s an awful person, and the amount of times she’s bullied someone and done awful things compared to this one thing of finn makes them equally awful
I didn't like how Santana expected Brittany to just dump Artie for her or how she manipulated her into cheating on Artie. That said I do love Brittana.
i kind of agree however brittany lead her on. brittany said that santana should talk about her feelings because "with feelings its better," implying that she wanted a relationship with santana like she was having with artie. and then when santana poured her heart out to her, brittany blew her off (even though it was for the right reasons) and acted surprised when santana was mad. they both acted a bit shitty at that time. but they definitely loved each other. it was nice to see their relationship go from unhealthy to pure and healthy. brittana are some of the best wlws out there!
You can kind of understand Santana’s frustrations. That was an incredibly difficult thing to do and she made herself vulnerable for the first time in her life and she didn’t get what she wanted. She felt as if she put herself through that for nothing.
rip Naya Marie Rivera. An amazing role model, mother, friend, daughter, sister, actress, singer, model, and human. Sending prayers to her family and friends ❤️
How Finn basically says that him being bullied gives him the right to call her a coward and OUT her angers me to this day, also how he mansplains coming out to her like he’s been through it himself is just 🥰🔪
Ely Gonzalez outing someone can be very very dangerous. A girl outed me to my parents and they were ready to send me to conversion therapy. Thankfully I was able to lie my way out of it. Kids can get disowned by their parents for it and get bullied mercilessly by their peers
Chase Nerbonne And Dave was a bully who violently assaulted & harassed Kurt every single day for being gay & then forcefully kissed him w/o his consent. Threatening to out someone is disgusting & never okay, but she didn’t actually out him. A football player did (that guy is a disgusting piece of sh!t as well). Finn publicly outed Santana in the hallway. You could go in circles trying to deflect the blame onto other people Bc they all did horrible, inexcusable, & unforgivable things. The SOLE point is- outing (or threatening to out) someone w/o their consent is never okay. EVER. It can literally risk someone’s life.
@@Nothing_to_see807 The part yall are forgetting or failing to realize no matter how much Santana threatened Dave she was never going to out him because first she told him they play on the same team plus no matter how cold hearted she was or how truthfully spoken she was she would've never outed him
ASTHETIC VIBES ehhhh no she seemed like she was gonna out him and that’s pretty low, considering what happened to him when he was outed, and Santana getting outed ad well
Glee did an amazing job by making all the characters have some flaws so everyone has different favorites. People who stan Santana thinks she didn’t deserve to be outed, while the Santana nonstans think she was a bully lmao
@Gorilla-grip-pussy-support-hotline -69 - no, bullying someone is far worse than in my book than telling people something about someone viciously attacking you, when what you are saying about them is true anyway
Okay, my problem is that people don't understand Santana's role as a character vs. Finn's role as a character. I came up with this ideal when I saw a poster for Glee, characters like Finn, Rachel, and other Glee club members have the slushie thrown on them. While, I'm trying my best to remember what it looked like, but, Santana was one of the people with a picture throwing a slushie. Santana's not supposed to be a good character, as in on the good side. Finn is. So, that's the problem. It's in her character to be mean and rude, and with the Glee's writers bad understanding of the life of actual minorities there comes to some questions about the Karofsky situation. So, treat this as it's own problem. Just because the writer's painted Finn to be on the good side and wrote the situation so everybody agreed, was a extreme disregard for LGBTQ+ youth and Santana. If Finn actually cared about gay people he would have never thought about using their sexuality against them in any situation; he would have thought about the effects of outing a person of color. He stated that he cared about her, and didn't wait her to harm herself. But, yet, he did the one thing that could have pushed her over the edge. Adding one more song to the list that makes you cry. Santana's supposed to be a bad person, and she is. But, stop looking at Finn as good when he does and says stuff that you know is wrong.
I dont think they intended anyone to be completely pure angel. They showed humanity in the supposedly bad persons like Sue and they also showed how people like Rachel, Finn, Artie, etc. could be so terribly mean/wrong. It's about growing from the mistakes which, in my opinion, Finn came through more than any other characters right from the start.
@@VipanBavoria And I understand that, but- the writing sucks. And when the writing sucks like it does not and almost every other time, you can't really blame the characters. It's the writer's fault. I felt that was Finn was doing was planned as something good, and the writes made the cast/characters treat it as good despite the trauma that Santana or any LGBTQ+ person would have been going through in that situation. I think, in that episode, Finn talks about how he doesn't want Santana to kill herself but outs her. This is clearly a mistake by the writers as they most likely saw this as a good way to push Santana. You do have a point but I was more arguing for the fact that these are characters with people who don't quiet understand what they are writing. (Sorry, I didn't really read over my comment so that could be confusing but take it as another point if I didn't make it.)
@@m_nico_ I mean, there's more than just a gay man in the show. You know that right? And, if I can check real quick, he's white. So, I didn't really expect him to be able to understand all the stuff we go thought when he's just maybe two to three steps down on the power scale from the average white, cis, male.
Fatimetou Sheckh I died inside when they kept mentioning scissoring, I’ve been gay all my Life and I swear it’s not a thing like they are trying to make it out to be.
Okay i understand santana shouldn't have been rude to finn tho she kinda had a point ab the Rachel thing but you should NEVER under ANY circumstances out someone in a public place like that. It's dangerous and can be traumatic for the person. Sexuality should not be abused by someone that way especially if they're not exactly comfortable with themself and accepting it yet. If I had been outed like that where I live, who knows what would've happened. Luckily I had the chance to make it a slow and progressive process so it gave people the chance to come around to it. If I had been outed I literally could've been completely isolated or beat up etc
for anyone trying to defend Finn here, please know that outing someone is one of the most traumatic, hurtful things you can do to someone, especially if they live somewhere that isn't accepting or they have homophobic family members. No, it wasn't right of Santana to body shame him, but he had NO RIGHT to out her. Remember when Kurt wouldn't out Karofsky even after he bullied him so horrendously? That's because he understood how big of a deal it is
Thank you Naya. Thank you for portraying such an important character. You’ve helped me through some shit. I think of you tonight, always and forever. I think of your family. Your friends. Your cast mates. I think of Josey. I promise the world will protect your precious baby from all the evil society holds. We can and will never be able to love him more than you did though... We love you. ❤️
Can we take a second to appreciate Britt's songs for santana: 1. Purple people eater 2. disco duck 3. monster mash 4. on top of spaghetti 5. pac-man fever 6. osama yo mama. (classic) 7. different strokes theme song LMAO bro.
i agree that what finn did was terrible but let’s not forget that santana threatened to out karofsky if he didn’t date her. like what finn did was inexcusable but let’s not act like santana is an angel and “would never stoop that low”
True. I don't think she would actually out him or shout it in a hallway, but she still threatened, which is bad. I don't think Santana is an angel, the writers made it clear that she was a villain in the first 2 seasons. I just hate that Finn was made to be the good guy when he outed Santana and pressured her out of the closet. Once again, Finn is the hero. The straight white male savior. Yawn. He should have faced consequences and been held accountable. I wonder how it would have gone if Santana didn't forgive him so easily.
I always cry so hard when I watch the episode where Finn outs Santana and then slaps him because imagine someone else deciding their gonna take away your choice in a situation
Omg i love that "its not about who you are attracted to its about who you fall in love with" this right here 💕 is why i hate defining my sexuaity. I am very attracted to women and im also so in love with a man and he is okay with it all, and im okay with it all. I hate labels personally for me. Not bisexual not straight not gay, im me.
I snort everytime I hear *Teen Lesbianzzz* 😂 But on a serious note... RIP Naya Rivera 🙏 You were an amazing actress, loving mother and daughter, and a good friend to the people in your life. Your representation in Glee helped me feel more open about my own sexuality and I am forever grateful for you even though I never met you 😭❤
I was never a fan of Glee until I watched her character Santana ..I wish they showed more of her and Brittany .. What a huge lost .. so talented and Beautiful .. rests easy Naya ❣️
She was so important to me, she really changed my life with her passionate and dedicated acting 🏳️🌈 So talented and so young She will always be on our hearts THANKS NAYA 🖤
Friendly reminder that: You are not a coward for waiting to come out, or for being scared to do so. Everyone has their own ways of doing so, on their own time. It's up to nobody but yourself and if someone ever DOES out you, you have every right to be upset at them. Also, I can't stress this enough....IT IS NEVER OKAY TO OUT SOMEONE.
it disturbs me how people really try to defend fin for outing Santana then pretty much telling her to get over it..... like outing someone can ruin their life and notice how the main ones who defend him are the straights???
im late to this fandom bc i just now started watching glee, but as a lesbian i LOVE santana so much. she genuinely felt like such an authentic lesbian character, especially with having to work through her comphet in order to find her true identity. so many lesbian characters feel shallow when they fall in to the "gold star" trope, so seeing a real lesbian who worked through her past relationships is so refreshing
She's only presumed dead mate there hasn't been any official confirmation yet and I hope to the universe we don't get that news but I don't have as much hope as I would like to
I didn't even like glee all that much, but what she did for us... Her death hurt. She was a really good person. It sort of feels like not having her in the world mutes some abstract shit I can't explain.
While I hate how she was outed, I appreciate the show having that kind of storyline. To me it showcases the pain and vulnerability that outing somebody can cause, and can help show people who have been outed and may not have accepting family members/friends have someone to connect with and relate to.
in loving memory of naya 🖤
marcela 🖤.
😭
I'm still in shock :(
it hurts to know her son is gonna live without his mama :’( she loved him so much
I can't believe she is gone already :(
For the “stupid” character, Brittany really has a way with words. She never did get the recognition she deserves.
I don't think she was actually "stupid." There's been some really great analyses/interpretations of her character written by themostrandomfandom on Tumblr.
she was more ditzy than stupid i think
don’t let the demons out of your basement :D I think of Charlotte Kemp Muhl with this statement. She comes across as “ditzy,” but is actually quite intelligent.
Sadie Chase book smart no, but emotionally intelligent, she was always off the charts smart
If that's true, then why did she say she heard a rumor that Santana played for the other team, and she could confirm it?
Notice how she is a savage in almost every scene
Every*
@Daniel Lopez That’s how she spelt it
I MADE YOU READ THIS I think she meant that she is a savage in every scene
I love that about her 😸
Hard not to
That scene when she's too angry at Finn and slaps him so hard everyone goes quiet... that's just WOW powerful
it's funny because the directors told Naya (Santana) to slap Corey (Finn) but he nor any of the other cast members knew she was going to slap him exept for her and the directors
@@hannahashman1121nahh some of the other cast members knew you know😂
I mean he kinda deserved it for outing her 😗
Isabel Fayer people are forgetting Brittany outed her in season 2 I know that it was accident but still
hannah ashman oh shit that’s a great idea for actual shock
"isn't cool how our girlfriends are such good friends," poor poor sam :o)
Haha yup
“Wish you and I were that close” well you can’t try if your into that kinda stuff
Oblivious
In denial
just gals being pals
I can't believe Naya is gone, she gave us one of the most strong gay characters in modern tv. I will forever miss her voice and badass attitude.
You don't have to say it like that, show more compassion and empathy jeez
@Student HannahBeatrix Valladolid you sound like Vanessa hudgens right now. Tone it down
@Student HannahBeatrix Valladolid your mindset is the EXACT same as Vanessa. It may be hard to hear but judging on what you’re saying I didn’t even lie.
@Student HannahBeatrix Valladolid a simple TH-cam search of “Vanessa hudgens talking about COVID” would go a long way
@Student HannahBeatrix Valladolid I never one said you were being rude? I said that your comment was insensitive and lacked empathy so even if that wasn’t the intent take responsibility and stop arguing your point because that’s how it came across to me and other people
"I don't like labels unless its when i shoplift something"
What time stamp?
Starlight 5007 1:13
@Hungry Hippo .. If you're going to quote someone , do it correctly. Like you didn't even try lol .. She says " I'm not interested in any labels unless it's on something I shoplift "
Madison Pearce chill tf out
@@eviekenyon574 was anybody talking to you? I'm just trying to help the person out. Have a good day :) focus on what's important!
"The only straight I am, is straight up b****" I FELT THAT
That should be on a T shirt
Ironically that sentence helped me a lot threw my coming out phase 🥰
*though @@qut22vp83
Santana and her overall persona made this show sixty times better, she’s hot, multidimensional, of mixed race, a bitch but in a caring way.. she’s literally the best character in the show, also her character development... *chefs kisses*
haha facts xD
Couldn’t have said it better myself
honestly she's 100% the reason i suffered through the entirety of the show
Yes the one thing Ryan Murphy did right
Shes my favorite character
I would'va cried so hard if you had included the scene when she comes out to her abuela.
AngelicaNerd sammmmme
She said TH-cam blocked it :(
@@Mayyybabyyy Awww, what a shame. :/
SAME
I cried because i know if i came out to my abuela ,she would have said the same
Santana: Kisses Brittney
Brittney : OOH sWeEt LaDy KiSsEs
Wow a comment with 1k likes and no replies lol
@@_aldcdaydreams 🤭
Rule #1 in the LGBTQ+ community: NEVER out someone without their will or consent
That shouldn't even be a rule that should be just common sense
kiddo I may not agree with LGBTQ+ BUT I would never ever out someone ever
AbermelonYT 1 don’t agree?
olivia I don’t support it
AbermelonYT 1 not outing someone sounds more supportive than most people to me so i’ll take it lmao
Finn had no right and they did not do her justice she was being suspended for slapping Finn but what about all the other times that characters got in physical fights and in later episodes when other characters had a physical fights they had no consequences what so ever.
Also when Finn outed Santana it didn't even seem to cross Finns mind how it would have affected her until in later episodes like she could have reacted the way Dave did when he try to kill himself after being outed, also if the fact that she forgive him for outing her after he sang a sad song is so stupid.
@@ositoazul474 what Finn did ( outing Santana in front of almost the entire school was way out of line. Even Santana never stooped that low.
Nicole Newsome that’s not necessarily true. i agree what finn did was terrible but she threatened karaofsky (idk if i spelled it right) to out him if he didn’t “date” her. so to say she wouldn’t stoop that low is definitely wrong.
Nicole Newsome uh karofsky? Ring any bells
@@steph8595 yeah she threatnened him but she would have never done it, because she told him that "they play on the same team" so if she outed him she knew that Dave could have easily done the same thing to her
they really pretended finn was a good guy when he did shit like this
Nobody ah yes, body shaming the conventionally attractive guy is just as bad as putting someone in a situation where they could face societal rejection and literal assault 🙄
Nobody No❤️
Nobody you really thought you snapped.. how embarrassing 😳😳
I've never watched glee, but she doesn't seem like the best person either
Nobody you really thought you did something there
yeah santana teased finn for being "fat" but that was no reason for him to out her. he could have easily came back at her with a silly jab but he had completely malicious intent and knew the weight of what he was saying. santana's mean one-liners were for her to deflect her feelings and maintain her bitchy cheerleader persona and also to make people laugh & like her. plus the idea of finn, a thin and conventionally attractive dude, being fat is ridiculous! while not MALICIOUS to finn intentionally, santana was not perfect. once she realized that her humor was actually hurting her friend's feeligs she should have pulled back. HOWEVER calling finn fat did not have the potential to ruin his life. the fact that her outed her in a hallway at a school where gay students get verbally and physically assaulted is inexcusable. so many people lose their family, friends, livelihood and safety when they are outed at times when they are not ready to do so! santana is not a saint but regardless of what anybody does, NOBODY deserves to be outed. some straight fans love to defend finn in that episode but they simply do not understand what being outed feels like and how it violates lgbt+ people's dignity.
EDIT: yall- i'm not excusing or defenfing santana for threatening to out karofsky. that was messed up and she is totally a bully! this comment is not saying shes an amazing sweet person. i'm just stating the fact that OUTING SOMEONE IS NEVER OKAY, no matter who they are. even if theyre a bully. finn had no right to out her bc no one ever has the right to out anybody.
Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. That's what i was trying to say all along. Finn was way out of line. Santana never stooped that low as Finn did virus
As a gay woman who was outed by my family to my family I relate to Santana's storyline but she was an AWFUL person. All she did was bully people. Karofsky was much more sympathetic and I felt for him more. I'm very grateful for the storyline of a teenage girl struggling with being gay and how it's helped people. It doesn't take away from how she was a bully the entire show.
Also they were all teens. Finn said a lot of stupid shit the entire show. Finn is just as unlikable as Santana.
I really hate this argument. Santana was a BITCH, she had it coming for her. You can’t just endlessly insult people and expect to not get shit thrown at you back in return.
santana was literally blackmailing and threatening to out Karofsky. Like she should know the damage of outing someone. obviously that doesn't justify what finn did which was horrible - but santana threatening to out Karofsky is disgusting
It👏is👏never👏ok👏to👏out👏someone👏no👏matter👏what
Nome da série e onde eu possa ver?
@@ritadecassia3386 Glee (Netflix)
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same thing with intentionally misgendering people! not relevant to outing people, i just had the conversation with my siblings today lmao
HI KENMA-
i dont think yall understand the weight of what finn did. coming out is supposed to be you accepting yourself and being brave enough to endure the judgement and disapproval that you might get from other people. it's supposed to be self-acceptance self-love and finn just took all that away from her because she hurt his feelings. it is in no way justified
but Santana also literally was blackmailing Karofsky and threatening to OUT HIM, like she should know the damage that would make.
Aditi Hrishi but she didn’t...we can assume she would but that never happened. That’s the difference. Finn did it as a retaliation. He was wrong.
Aditi Hrishi ok and? how does the fact that she was blackmailing karofsky justify what finn did. she didnt deserve to get outed no matter what. no one does. plus its different because the situations weren't the same. santana did it so she could get smth from him and keep her bitchy attitude ( im not trying to justify what she did im just trying to explain her reasons) plus she DIDNT out him. finn on the other hand wanted to hurt santana and because this was the only thing he had on her he didnt hesitate and didnt realise what the consequences were. finn was in the wrong end of story
Aditi Hrishi “*but*”? It’s not but, she didn’t do it and she most likely wouldn’t have because she understands the weight. She didn’t deserve that and find did it purely because he was stupid and wanted revenge. That’s it. Nobody should have to do that and it’s clear she was struggling with those emotions already. She’s lucky to have been in such a supportive environment and lucky that there were other lgbtq kids there too.
Why can't we say that yes Santana was wrong in threatening and yes Finn was definitely wrong in actually doing it. They were both wrong because it's wrong to out someone. I think it sucks that the only thing that happened to Finn was that he was slapped, like Santana never held a grudge after she just automatically forgave him? I feel like ultimately it was THE SHOW'S responsibility to make the audience realize how unacceptable it is to out someone. The audience feels Santana's initial horror but after the slap (which they make seem like a huuuge deal) was punishment enough for being outed. Also the fact that Santana threatened to out someone was also taken lightly to an extent. So I feel that it's safe to say that the writing fell short on tackling how imperative it is to NOT out someone
Finn really didn't think about the consequences of his actions when he outed Santana like that. It really goes to show how we need to educate people on the dangers the LGBTQ+ youth face everyday, and every time I watch the scene with Santana in Sue's office it just breaks my heart.
Same
Exactly. I'm sensing that people are under the impression that he intentionally set out to ruin her relationship with her parents and extended family as well as the school... And yeah he definitely wanted to hurt her and should be reprimanded for outing her (especially considering what it could lead to), I don't excuse Santana saying those intense jabs. The psychological ramifications of bullying are incredibly real and shouldn't be downplayed because "tolerance". I don't mean to rant but I feel like we (the LGBTQIA community) tend to excuse certain horrific acts of violence in the name of other acts of violence...
oh he did think about the consequences. he just didn't give a fuck
I don’t like Finn but I love Santana but she did bullied multiple characters
Finn didn’t out Santana? He only told Santana she was gay… the girl who made that tape was the one who outed her!! By listening in on their conversation!
I don't like how people are okay with Finn outing Santana. My brother outed me to my family and I almost became homeless and disowned. I was beaten up and berated by my own relatives for not having any control on who I have feelings for. What Finn did is deplorable. If he outed me like this I'd be making sure that there'd be two kids in the Glee club using a wheelchair.
I hope you are okay 💕❤
Angelo Sam I will say this I don’t agree with lgbt+ but that’s just my religion. But I would never out someone. That is horrible and I’m so glad you seem to be ok now.
@@abermelonyt1444 I just can't understand how you don't agree with love 🤔
Val E it’s their beliefs, nothing wrong with it
@@Hagridslefttoee theres quite a bit wrong with it when their beliefs literally go against love but go off
Finn deserved that slap!
Joana Gongora maybe but Santana deserved the slap that Rachel gave her in 5x09 for the crap that Santana gave everyone
@@oceanatheangelofdarkness301 totally!
@@oceanatheangelofdarkness301 I agree.
Santana is a bully just like Karofsky, she bullied Finn every day of year about his weight and looks. She deserved alot more than a slap.
@@oceanatheangelofdarkness301 it's one thing to give someone crap but, it's another thing to be totally out of line which is what Finn was.
I used to think that Finn always had a problem with gays, I mean he was always involucrated with the gay stuff and not in the best way
He did remember how he reacted to Kurt
yeah like when he called Kurt the f word in s1 and then kurts dad yelled at him but that was literally it
@Kristen Hicks oh wow he used a homophobic slur that's used to discriminate gay men in front of a gay man. you really think he was talking to the blanket??💀💀💀
@@Cecilia-ld4uu listen Finn outing Santana was awful. But his blow up at Kurt was justified. Kurt was blatantly hitting on him CONTINUOUSLY knowing that he was straight. Kurt didn't care and was determined to change his sexuality to the point where he set their parents up so that they would move in together and have to share a room. So yeah Finn blew up because he felt like his mother was replacing his dad, and Kurt was being super creepy and aggressive towards him. He felt trapped and lashed out, and while I do not use the word he used, even in his lashing out he did not call Kurt that word just a blanket. So yes Finn shouldn't have said it, but I get why he did and Kurt was definitely the one in the wrong in that situation
@@dramamole i totally get finn lashing out because kurt was being creepy and making him uncomfortable. i would've totally been by his side if he didn't use a slur TWICE. there's never an excuse to use a slur, and trust me he was not calling that blanket the slur, because if that blanket hadn't belonged to a gay man he would've never used that slur. he didn't have the same reaction with rachel in the second season, when she was constantly trying to get with him when he had made it clear that he didn't want to be with her, even though she was being even more insistent of kurt, kissing him without his consent twice. i get him lashing out at kurt, but the use of slurs, watching as kurt got bullied without doing anything and outing santana is more than enough proof of his internalized homophobia.
I disliked Finn right after he outed Santana, I can’t stand him anymore. I’m a closeted bisexual and I will never tell anybody, especially my extremely homophobic family. If anybody outed me I would be disowned and so, and someone else may get it worse like getting abused and worse. Don’t ever out anyone EVER, it literally can be serious trouble for some. NEVER OUT SOMEONE.
I’m sorry your family is like that. I hope when you’re older you can come out and be proud !💖
Outing anyone is fucked. I was outed to my whole school. I had to move schools because of how awful people were to me. My family luckily has always had support for me. I'm so sorry that your family doesn't do that. There is nothing wrong with you. Love is love. I hope that you can find your way away from that type of mindset.
preach! also i’m sorry abt your family 🥺 you are so valid!
Exactly I'm in the closet and if anyone toldy family I would probably be sent to therapy or church
Didn’t she threaten to put someone just a few minutes before though. Why is everyone acting like she’s the only victim?
Santana is honestly the prettiest person on the whole show
Other than Quinn
when brit calls her honey.....but not in a condescending way🥺🥺
I just can’t believe she is gone. I just can’t.
😭
It's so so sad. Miss her .
“Isn’t this a date? Aren’t you paying? because I ordered shrimp”
every lesbian be like
I don't get it
Iconic
@@river1409 dude do you get it?
@@VR-bw6qb Yes
Why skip over the actual coming out scene?
I think it was because it was the journey but yeah I get where your coming from.
youtube blocked 😑
@@menuok11 Of course they did
@@menuok11 that's weird
@@notwerkinginthishouse8634 its not weird. everyone knows youtube is openly homophobic especially over gay males.
it's so messed up, as someone who watches yaoi (boys love, just gayness) nothing is inappropriate about the word whatsoever but people have to say y*oi or somehow sensor it to be on youtube. sooooo homophobic i hate this shitty platform.
The way Santana cries is heartbreaking.
Like... We all know how strong she is. We are used to it.
But every now and then someone comes along to tear down her defenses.
And I cannot see her crying without me crying too.
She sobs and looks trapped.
It's the way she fears her own feelings what makes her sadness even deeper.
You totally got it 💔💚
the fact that finn KNOWS how bad kurt and blaine are bullied for being gay but he still outed santana is what makes me angry. i hate how he’s supposed to be a “good guy” who is a “reformed bully bc he just wanted to be popular and didn’t wanna get bullied himself” and when he got bullied for being in glee and being called gay and stuff. he KNOWS the rampant homophobia in that school, in that TOWN, and he still outed her. he experienced the bullying to a way lesser extent, but he should know what it’s like and how awful it could’ve been for her. it isn’t the fact that she’s also horrible, it’s the fact that finn stooped to her level of horrible.
No, what he did was way worse than anything she ever did
@@miabrooke1591 😭 that’s what i said no??
@@tsuki3752 you said to her level of horrible, even though she’d never do anything like that, no hate or anything 😂
@@miabrooke1591 while outing someone is very bad i’m quite sure she would’ve done the same before she knew she was a lesbian. i mean, she’s an awful person, and the amount of times she’s bullied someone and done awful things compared to this one thing of finn makes them equally awful
Period
I didn't like how Santana expected Brittany to just dump Artie for her or how she manipulated her into cheating on Artie. That said I do love Brittana.
That's like the only bad thing 'bout the couple 🤷
That was the only stage of their relationship that I didn't like. The rest I love because they are my favorite couple
I felt so bad for Artie tho.
i kind of agree however brittany lead her on. brittany said that santana should talk about her feelings because "with feelings its better," implying that she wanted a relationship with santana like she was having with artie. and then when santana poured her heart out to her, brittany blew her off (even though it was for the right reasons) and acted surprised when santana was mad. they both acted a bit shitty at that time. but they definitely loved each other. it was nice to see their relationship go from unhealthy to pure and healthy. brittana are some of the best wlws out there!
You can kind of understand Santana’s frustrations. That was an incredibly difficult thing to do and she made herself vulnerable for the first time in her life and she didn’t get what she wanted. She felt as if she put herself through that for nothing.
Why was miss holiday a better counceler than miss Pillsbury?
truly, counsellors seem to never be for guiding and seem to be for helping u to decide what college to go to
Oh for sure
rip Naya Marie Rivera.
An amazing role model, mother, friend, daughter, sister, actress, singer, model, and human. Sending prayers to her family and friends ❤️
How Finn basically says that him being bullied gives him the right to call her a coward and OUT her angers me to this day, also how he mansplains coming out to her like he’s been through it himself is just 🥰🔪
Jesus’cumdump420 69 that’s still no excuse to belittle someone in my opinion.
Ely Gonzalez outing someone can be very very dangerous. A girl outed me to my parents and they were ready to send me to conversion therapy. Thankfully I was able to lie my way out of it. Kids can get disowned by their parents for it and get bullied mercilessly by their peers
Honestly, he should have worded differently and not calling her a lesbian. Just say she's a coward because she is afraid of others think about her.
@@Izzy-cw1kv Hope everything is ok for you.
This entire video breaks my heart into a billion pieces
she portrayed this character so beautiful, she did so much for the lgbtq, especially for the lesbians, i miss you so much Naya
Finn getting away with outing her but she almost gets suspended for lashing out at him
Angel, I'll never forget her. Without her I dont think I would've ever felt so confident in my sexuality.
It's kinda confusing when a character come out to the audience, but not to the other characters. When she came out in s3, I was like... Duh
It’s a plot device called dramatic irony. It’s basically when the audience knows something the characters don’t and it happens a lot in entertainment.
@@aby1061 thanks for the knowledge 🤓
I really hated how Finn outed her, he deserved to get slapped
Yet no one gives Dave sympathy for when Santana threatened to out him and we already know what happened when he was outed
Chase Nerbonne And Dave was a bully who violently assaulted & harassed Kurt every single day for being gay & then forcefully kissed him w/o his consent. Threatening to out someone is disgusting & never okay, but she didn’t actually out him. A football player did (that guy is a disgusting piece of sh!t as well). Finn publicly outed Santana in the hallway. You could go in circles trying to deflect the blame onto other people Bc they all did horrible, inexcusable, & unforgivable things. The SOLE point is- outing (or threatening to out) someone w/o their consent is never okay. EVER. It can literally risk someone’s life.
@@Nothing_to_see807 The part yall are forgetting or failing to realize no matter how much Santana threatened Dave she was never going to out him because first she told him they play on the same team plus no matter how cold hearted she was or how truthfully spoken she was she would've never outed him
ASTHETIC VIBES ehhhh no she seemed like she was gonna out him and that’s pretty low, considering what happened to him when he was outed, and Santana getting outed ad well
Ella Anne Marie exactly.... outing people is never ok.... which was my point that Dave was threatened to be outed as well by Santana
Never watched glee but this storyline feels so real i actually didn’t expect that
I know right?!
I adore Naya she’s the only reason why I began watching glee in the first place. Glee will never be the same. Rest In Peace Naya❤️
I'm sorry her son only had her for his momma for four years. She was his hero to the end.
Glee did an amazing job by making all the characters have some flaws so everyone has different favorites. People who stan Santana thinks she didn’t deserve to be outed, while the Santana nonstans think she was a bully lmao
@Gorilla-grip-pussy-support-hotline -69 - no, bullying someone is far worse than in my book than telling people something about someone viciously attacking you, when what you are saying about them is true anyway
these four dislikes are Dani, Sam, Artie and Puck
and now it's also her abuela on two accounts
Wera_Woz lmao yep
Ahahahahahahaha😂
😂😂😂😂 okay I love you guys
Why? Those characters aren’t that bad.
Okay, my problem is that people don't understand Santana's role as a character vs. Finn's role as a character. I came up with this ideal when I saw a poster for Glee, characters like Finn, Rachel, and other Glee club members have the slushie thrown on them. While, I'm trying my best to remember what it looked like, but, Santana was one of the people with a picture throwing a slushie. Santana's not supposed to be a good character, as in on the good side. Finn is. So, that's the problem. It's in her character to be mean and rude, and with the Glee's writers bad understanding of the life of actual minorities there comes to some questions about the Karofsky situation. So, treat this as it's own problem. Just because the writer's painted Finn to be on the good side and wrote the situation so everybody agreed, was a extreme disregard for LGBTQ+ youth and Santana. If Finn actually cared about gay people he would have never thought about using their sexuality against them in any situation; he would have thought about the effects of outing a person of color. He stated that he cared about her, and didn't wait her to harm herself. But, yet, he did the one thing that could have pushed her over the edge. Adding one more song to the list that makes you cry. Santana's supposed to be a bad person, and she is. But, stop looking at Finn as good when he does and says stuff that you know is wrong.
I dont think they intended anyone to be completely pure angel. They showed humanity in the supposedly bad persons like Sue and they also showed how people like Rachel, Finn, Artie, etc. could be so terribly mean/wrong. It's about growing from the mistakes which, in my opinion, Finn came through more than any other characters right from the start.
@@VipanBavoria And I understand that, but- the writing sucks. And when the writing sucks like it does not and almost every other time, you can't really blame the characters. It's the writer's fault. I felt that was Finn was doing was planned as something good, and the writes made the cast/characters treat it as good despite the trauma that Santana or any LGBTQ+ person would have been going through in that situation. I think, in that episode, Finn talks about how he doesn't want Santana to kill herself but outs her. This is clearly a mistake by the writers as they most likely saw this as a good way to push Santana. You do have a point but I was more arguing for the fact that these are characters with people who don't quiet understand what they are writing. (Sorry, I didn't really read over my comment so that could be confusing but take it as another point if I didn't make it.)
Yeah. I find it weird how Ryan Murphy kinda failed to represent minorities because he himself is gay and married.
@@m_nico_ I mean, there's more than just a gay man in the show. You know that right? And, if I can check real quick, he's white. So, I didn't really expect him to be able to understand all the stuff we go thought when he's just maybe two to three steps down on the power scale from the average white, cis, male.
This is so fucking stupid
Is anyone else watching this after hearing the news that she’s going missing? Heartbreaking. We won’t give up ❤️
EDIT: Rest in peace angel
Yes 😭
Yes 😔
Who has had a crush on Santana and now is a lesbian?
😳
I’m bi but yeah pretty much
I feel called out
I have a crush on her but i'm straight
Zoe Oelschläger Girl i hate to break it to you...
Omg I forgot how homophobic this show was
ryan murphy knew how to write gay men but every other minority’s storylines always sucked
How ?
explain...
Fatimetou Sheckh
it’s more biphobia than anything
@@morgelou Brittany is Bi tho
Fatimetou Sheckh I died inside when they kept mentioning scissoring, I’ve been gay all my Life and I swear it’s not a thing like they are trying to make it out to be.
Back then she would've made a beautiful Disney Pocahontas. So pretty & talented. RIP
Anyone here after Naya 💔 she knocked it out of the park with this role
literally every conflict in glee ends up being "why dont you FiNd A sOnG aNd SiNg AbOuT iT"
Well it’s not a musical show for no reason 😂
Okay i understand santana shouldn't have been rude to finn tho she kinda had a point ab the Rachel thing but you should NEVER under ANY circumstances out someone in a public place like that. It's dangerous and can be traumatic for the person. Sexuality should not be abused by someone that way especially if they're not exactly comfortable with themself and accepting it yet. If I had been outed like that where I live, who knows what would've happened. Luckily I had the chance to make it a slow and progressive process so it gave people the chance to come around to it. If I had been outed I literally could've been completely isolated or beat up etc
Santana slapping fin, Iconic
for anyone trying to defend Finn here, please know that outing someone is one of the most traumatic, hurtful things you can do to someone, especially if they live somewhere that isn't accepting or they have homophobic family members. No, it wasn't right of Santana to body shame him, but he had NO RIGHT to out her. Remember when Kurt wouldn't out Karofsky even after he bullied him so horrendously? That's because he understood how big of a deal it is
Facts
"its a nice break from all that scissoring" LMFAOOOO
@@Sophia-hn3vs oh just cutting paper haha
“the only straight i am is a straight up bitch”
ICONIC
When she started singing songbird I was like 👁👄👁 because that’s the song I had my first kiss with a girl to, haha. I could not handle the coincidence
Aw. That song is so beautiful
I got chills for no reason reading this, like I kissed a girl to that song.
santana: i’m going to be an outsider for the rest of my life (being a lesbian) can i not just have one night?
that shit punched me in the gut tbh.
Not valid you skipped the stuff that makes you cry.
youtube blocked it
@@aries3933 why
Have A.-. Good Day Today'_' idk
Have A.-. Good Day Today'_' they’re homophobic 😳
Huh
Britney’s best moment when she shove the Lebanese shirt to Santana.
All in favor of Santana being the best Glee character provide to the audience a raise hand emoji. 🙋🏽♂️
I love Holly holiday. Her sharing circle. How she has them feel safe.
Thank you Naya. Thank you for portraying such an important character. You’ve helped me through some shit. I think of you tonight, always and forever. I think of your family. Your friends. Your cast mates. I think of Josey. I promise the world will protect your precious baby from all the evil society holds. We can and will never be able to love him more than you did though... We love you. ❤️
I love Brit omg LEBANESE instead of LESBIAN😂😂😂👏🏼
santana is honestly my favourite character
Can we take a second to appreciate Britt's songs for santana:
1. Purple people eater
2. disco duck
3. monster mash
4. on top of spaghetti
5. pac-man fever
6. osama yo mama. (classic)
7. different strokes theme song
LMAO bro.
😭😭😭
i agree that what finn did was terrible but let’s not forget that santana threatened to out karofsky if he didn’t date her. like what finn did was inexcusable but let’s not act like santana is an angel and “would never stoop that low”
True. I don't think she would actually out him or shout it in a hallway, but she still threatened, which is bad. I don't think Santana is an angel, the writers made it clear that she was a villain in the first 2 seasons. I just hate that Finn was made to be the good guy when he outed Santana and pressured her out of the closet. Once again, Finn is the hero. The straight white male savior. Yawn. He should have faced consequences and been held accountable. I wonder how it would have gone if Santana didn't forgive him so easily.
She's an angle to my and quinn brittany angle's
@@haileyguzmana836 angel*
I think it was an empty threat she knew she wouldn’t carry out because of her own fear of it
@@haileyguzmana836 she can be an angle, but she ain't a angel
I always cry so hard when I watch the episode where Finn outs Santana and then slaps him because imagine someone else deciding their gonna take away your choice in a situation
Omg i love that "its not about who you are attracted to its about who you fall in love with" this right here 💕 is why i hate defining my sexuaity. I am very attracted to women and im also so in love with a man and he is okay with it all, and im okay with it all. I hate labels personally for me. Not bisexual not straight not gay, im me.
Are u and him still together? Sorry if that sounds weird, i just love, love stories
Sounds like you’re just bisexual hon lol
my most favorite story line in Glee..RIP our precious Naya❤️
I don’t care how rude a person is to me, I will never publicly out them. That’s something I would never bring into an argument.
Santana to the pianist: he’s just furniture. No offence.
Pianist: eh, Ik. 😅
His name is Brad nobody ever says his name
I snort everytime I hear *Teen Lesbianzzz* 😂
But on a serious note...
RIP Naya Rivera 🙏
You were an amazing actress, loving mother and daughter, and a good friend to the people in your life. Your representation in Glee helped me feel more open about my own sexuality and I am forever grateful for you even though I never met you 😭❤
I still can’t believe she is gone🥺 I feel like I’m trapped in a nightmare💔
😭
2020 really fucked us up
I was never a fan of Glee until I watched her character Santana ..I wish they showed more of her and Brittany .. What a huge lost .. so talented and Beautiful .. rests easy Naya ❣️
She was so important to me, she really changed my life with her passionate and dedicated acting 🏳️🌈
So talented and so young
She will always be on our hearts
THANKS NAYA 🖤
The ‘teen lesbians’ line always gets me 😭😭
Friendly reminder that:
You are not a coward for waiting to come out, or for being scared to do so. Everyone has their own ways of doing so, on their own time. It's up to nobody but yourself and if someone ever DOES out you, you have every right to be upset at them.
Also, I can't stress this enough....IT IS NEVER OKAY TO OUT SOMEONE.
it disturbs me how people really try to defend fin for outing Santana then pretty much telling her to get over it..... like outing someone can ruin their life and notice how the main ones who defend him are the straights???
i am so indebted to naya and this character for helping myself and so many others. she truly was such a force and i hope she rests easy
*"* *I don't want to be with any of these guys, I want to be with you* *"*
😫😭 it's so cutie😭😭😭😭
Wait what time was that?
@@liamrhone925 3:33 video
wasn't hard to find it on ur own instead of making others find it for u
Its easy to skip parts of videos
@@notwerkinginthishouse8634 chill lol
@@_aldcdaydreams i don't remember i was talking to u but ok
It's amazing that even in 2020, Glee is still so popular.
Rest in peace Naya 💔
Their dynamic makes me. So happy.
her story changed my life i will always naya for how much respect she put into santana’s story. love her forever. rip angel
im late to this fandom bc i just now started watching glee, but as a lesbian i LOVE santana so much. she genuinely felt like such an authentic lesbian character, especially with having to work through her comphet in order to find her true identity. so many lesbian characters feel shallow when they fall in to the "gold star" trope, so seeing a real lesbian who worked through her past relationships is so refreshing
Naya/Santana we will always love u, can’t believe ur actually gone u taught us about lgbtq and to be proud of who we are! Rest in peace you icon. 💔
Rip Naya, forever in our hearts
She's only presumed dead mate there hasn't been any official confirmation yet and I hope to the universe we don't get that news but I don't have as much hope as I would like to
@@lifesshitgetusedtoit8859 💔
I miss her so much.
“Isn’t this a date? Aren’t you paying? because I ordered shrimp” HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHH
"Or ship yourself back to Scotland" 😂😂😂😂😂😂classic
i havent even seen glee but this is actually so cute
Right, I’m questioning if I should binge the fuck out of it 😂.
Baby Valentine it’s absolutely insane at certain points but for the most part it’s amazing and it’s one of my favorite shows :) i highly recommend
@@-BabyValentine- yes
Oh god, i simply love the way that Santana look at Brittney when she shows their playlists. So adorable!!
I didn't even like glee all that much, but what she did for us... Her death hurt. She was a really good person. It sort of feels like not having her in the world mutes some abstract shit I can't explain.
i really hope Naya’s okay.
When santana slapped finn i screamed "YES!!!!" so loud that i scared myself😂
to the woman who made a lot of ppl courageous because of these scenes, we love you, Naya.
While I hate how she was outed, I appreciate the show having that kind of storyline. To me it showcases the pain and vulnerability that outing somebody can cause, and can help show people who have been outed and may not have accepting family members/friends have someone to connect with and relate to.
“The only straight I am is straight-up bitch.” How iconic.
Without Naya this show would have bombed, Rest in peace dear lady
“I’m like a lizard I need something warn beneath me so I can digest my food”
So iconic