Thank you all so much for 10k! We couldn't be more grateful ❤🥲The bag giveaway will be in a Community post in January. Have a safe and happy New Year everyone!
My favorite Swanky moment this discmas was day 16. I smiled the whole episode. Loved the idea of going out to a course with some wrapped discs to give away to strangers. Y’all are lifting spirits. Be safe this New Years Eve everyone. ❤️🙏🏻😇 happy New Year! förbli tjusig- Stay Swanky!
I don’t get why people hate on the stego and tilt. They do exactly what they’re supposed to do. It’s be one thing if they were advertised as regular workable discs. But they’re supposed to be a brick that goes left. That’s the point.
The Dragon is a great disc for what it is intended to be. Just to be used by beginners and give them some confidence throwing and knowing that it will float so they won't lose it right away. I still have mine from 12+ years ago and use it as a training disc when i take people out for the first time.
just started disc golf a few months ago and my first birdie was tee'd off with a dragon. dont get the hate, its not meant to be a disc you use forever, just a learner.
I disagree...I am a beginner (2nd season) and the Dragon is the worst of the 30 disks I bought. Way too floaty in the air with almost no control. I have nothing positive to say about the way it flies.
@@Veggamattic Wow really? That's crazy I'm a new disc golfer and one of the first discs my friend gave me was a dragon. I feel very confident with it and was surprised it was on this list.
I found a dragon stuck in some pond mud and have used it here and there and it’s absolutely terrible and flips super easy due to its weight…. But… it does float so I still use it when around deep water!
The dragon is still in production. I bag it for over water shots. I can hyzer flip it and get it to fly pretty straight actually. A guy in my club said that weirdly enough for him different colours flew differently. According to him white ones are a tad more stable than pink ones. It's anecdotal evidence so take this with a grain of salt. Mine is a white one. It's pretty flippy, but when thrown smooth and with some hyzer it flies pretty great.
i love dragons they are my sacrificial discs. can get them like 6 bucks including shipping. I use around water which around here is usually still. and yea different colors do seem to flly different. And i have hand issues the plastic helps me
That’s a very common thing that happens with discs. I have flippy instincts and then i have OS ones. White and pink ones are typically straighter or flippier and then blue and lime colored ones have been fairly os
I kinda doubt it's just the color making changes to the stability, I'm not outright dismissing that, but I'd point more towards the biggest factor in molding discs being weather. For example let's say you made a bunch of red, blue, and green Dragons one day when it's gorgeous out(higher temps, higher air pressure, but lower humidity) then the next day you stamp your white, yellows, and blacks but a storm rolled in overnight(lower temp, lower pressure, higher humidity), well it makes those identical molds different because of how the plastic sets in different conditions. It's one of the reasons Innova is seen as so inconsistent between molds, they make so many discs that it can be completely different conditions between some colors to others and that alone makes the discs fly a little different than the ones before. I still love Innova, but I tend to just buy their used discs when they have things I want and I tend to bring by bag to the store so I can really compare my favorite discs to ones I might buy. I have some of those godly destroyers from Avery Jenkins times, and for the most part I only buy other destroyers that have a similar feel and dome to them. Now if they'd just swap back the Nova plastic on the inside, the new ones rip like construction paper and break when they hit anything at any force. I broke one on a jump putt last summer, 1st throw I made with it on a really short putter course hit a tree and broke, and that was after I'd broken 4 other ones since Covid appeared. My 2 old ones(5 or 6 years) hit trees occasionally and never had a problem, the new plastic is worthless...
I bought an innova groove when they first came out. The problem is the abrupt transition from high speed turn to low speed fade. It felt both understable and overstable at the same time
Yup.. Got an innova leopard, fairway driver in a starter kit with stats 6 5 -2 1 Long story short it’s way too flippy and has abrupt transition as well.. only wants to fly straight when throwing a slow forehand, sometimes backhand.
I have a beat in Champ Groove. Honestly, it flies pretty close to the #'s, and i can probably throw it about 350-375'. Nice long S-Curve--never understood why it got all the hate, maybe I just got lucky and got a good one.
Mine was super straight flyer with sudden steep fade. I thought it was quite predictable under any condition. Not good for distance though. Didn't want a new one once my buddy lost it.
I bag a Groove for forehand shots only. The groove track gives me a perfect grip. I find it to have a very reliable and controllable S curve. I feel I have more pin point control with it than almost any other driver in my bag.
I have to stand up for the dragon. I think it's a great disc. But for some reasons. i play near water and bushes on some holes that's easy to lose a disc. Bad knee/hip keeps me from climbing down the hills into the water so for me i grab them 6 bucks including shipping and they are sacrificial discs. Also i throw leftie cause of a bum shoulder and my arm speed sucks so they fly fine for me. The plastic even helps me cause of hand issues (factory job life ya'll ) so i just love them. Lol maybe they are just great discs for doc but no one else lol.
I HATE the Inova pole cat. It doesn't even feel like a disc. It has a super long and skinny rim, and it's so light that unless your throwing it in a vacuum chamber it's not going to fly the way u want it to. Sorry just had to get that off my chest 😆
I dont get all the hate for trilogy when none of their discs made top 5 worst. Im betting that maybe only 1 will show up if you guys did a top 10 worst list. Anyways, great content as usual. And I know you guys will make 10k subs easy.
I was thinking about that and I think while they don't have an all-time horrible disc people just don't enjoy their lineup overall as much as your Innova, Discraft or Discmania. Not the worst disc, but worst overall lineup.
@@joshuakirk1555 That was my take also. Do you happen to know the list of manufacturers in the list? I'm not seeing a link in this video. Thanks in advance.
@@joshuakirk1555 was loyal to dynamic discs until they suddenly dropped their understable drivers. At 66, I'm unlikely to improve my arm speed much, so i have to shop elsewhere
I actually found an albatross 2 weeks ago cleaning out my shed. I have no idea how it got there. I was like is this for real. It was so hard like toy plastic. I threw it and it went about 75' dove left hit a gravel path and broke in half. Good luck on 10k! Wish you all a Blessed New Year!
Disagree on the Stego. It is not made to throw a drive with it. It is made for short flex forehand tosses. I have more throw-ins from the 60-80 foot range than anything else I bag. A steak is not meant to be cut with a spoon. Use it properly and you might change your mind.
Man, Discmania and Discraft getting some hate. Two of my top three. Starting to like Dynamic Disc also. This is also funny because I'm out of state without my bag, so I just bought a Dragon to use. 🤣
When I need a disc to hook harder than my Get Freaky Zone, I reach for the Tilt. Also great for short anhyzer shot shaping and scrambling out of the woods.
I hyzer flipped a Franklin Albatross into a roller and had it not hit the wood line I think it would've gone a mile. It will always have my respect for that
For practice in an open space the Dragon is one of my favorites to throw from Innova. They do get beaten up and are only 150g so they are easy to overpower.
Wild. The Groove was the first disc I ever got. Found it on a course and no one wanted it back. As I started to play with what was the only disc I had, I thought that disc golf was just SUPER hard. Nope. Well I guess as my interest in disc golf is coming back around I’ll try to get back into it, but I’ll go get myself a Buzzz or something to start.
Dragons have become a meme at my club for just how understable they are. When I throw them backhand, they turn over completely and land upside-down. When I thow them overhand, they flip all the way though to right side up. And I don't throw unusually far or anything.
Interesting vid, most don't seem to be common use discs.. mostly very unique single situation utility discs that can really be replaced with learning shot types
This made me laugh - my experience has been the same with the Dragon. I have mixed feelings about "losing" it on a course: not sure it's right to put that burden on another person. If anyone is looking for a floating disk they can throw over a pond, I've had better success with the Peace Frog from AquaFlight discs. It flies like a stable putter, similar to a Judge. It has a deeper edge though.
Exactly! Good for beginners with lower arm speeds. My son threw really well with it when he was starting out. Now he is beginning to out grow it. Eyeing through all the comments, it seems to have quite a big support. I mean, it does what it’s supposed to… Most incomprehensible choice on this list.
The groove is badass and is my go to forehand driver , I’ve birdied a or of holes with my grooves and will continue to do so ! I will take any unwanted grooves
For some of us older guys, the 10 m Brick has to be the worst disc ever made. I haven’t seen one in 15 years. The minority of the weight is in the center of the disc. Imagine glueing 2 heavy mini’s to a wet paper plate.
my brothers first ace was a dx dragon tomahawk over water, it got stuck in a tree for a sec and fell into the basket hitting 0 chains. his 12th ace was a forehand with a tilt.
The groove was one of my first drivers, I hated the way it felt but didnt mind the flight :) Buddy of mine borrowed and lost it behind a barb wire fence lol
The only customer on the Franklin Disc website is 5 stars. This guy like it so much, he bought it twice! LOL. The review reads as follows: "I have reordered the Disc Golf Discs, 3 Pack. The first two sets provided a fun and rewarding workout for family and friends. Unfortunately, several discs ended up in a community pond and not all were recovered. Ordering more so we can continue to enjoy the outings. Phoenix, AZ."
That’s hilarious the groove is #2. Everyone that has the Groove can send it my way. I love it. I always have 2-3 in my bag lol. I will take them off your hands. Thank you!
I don't know why the groove gets so much hate. I had one I got 2 aces with. I eventually lost it on Bengal Ridge in Pocatello i had a lighter one that i really didn't like after i lost the red one, but now I've got a sweet black and red halo groove, and i like it better than i liked old red. The halo plastic on the rim just feels much better.
Good to see bottom 5… would love a bottom 20!! So many top 10 lists toooo many and usually by sponsored folks or companies producing them or Pros that can’t really trash a disc without effecting their career. Thanks!!! And I love watermelons seeds and all!!!
I don't mind the groove. I think it's more like - 0.5 turn. Thrown a bunch and they all fly the same. Stable straight flight for 300 then a 30-40 foot fade. It's not great but I don't have hate for it.
I love the Goove...only bad disc golfers hate it cause they don't know how to throw it. It is very predictable...understable hss and it dumps hard at the end...lots of situations where that comes in handy.
I think I own the flippiest Albatross ever... First disc golf purchase. Lost it in the woods. Played another year, learned the game.. and then someone found my Albatross. It spent something like 9 months (partly through the winter) in the woods, unprotected. It is absolutely unthrowable. I can attest to the barrel roll phenomena. I keep it on my shelf for its sentimental value.. but garbage otherwise. (SIDE NOTE, the putter that came in that pack is really good in my opinion, I still practice put with it to this day).
I honestly like every disc I've ever thrown. The only reason people don't like the Groove is because during the cooling process the wing tends to droop or pull up more causing the PLH to be more inconsistent then most molds. So it's only inconsistent between different runs, thus being harder to find a equal replacement. Once the disc cools off it is what it is, the stability doesn't change between different throws. I happen to like the Stego but mine version is the Gateway disc Sports predecessor. Dave McCormick designed it way back and never put it in production because he didn't think it would be widely accepted. Then RDG bought the rights to the mold about 4 or 5 years ago and had it PDGA approved. As far as the Dragon it a nice feeling DX plastic mixture and of course it turns into a paper plate flight for most if you exceed the speed limit of the disc. For a player with any type of arm speed it's definitely a finesse discs. I have see Paul McBeth throw extremely flippy plastic that would normally hyzer flip or turn over to roller for most players on a pure hyzer line out to 350+ feet. Most people can't throw a beat-up flippy Dragon on a pure Hyzer line to 350+ it would simply turn over or at least Flip to Flat. Honestly most people throw with some amount of OAT (off-axis torque) leading them to believe the disc isn't as stable as it really is. Most people have never heard of the Optimizer or Maximizer golf discs, if they were familiar they would both be on the list. You really don't know what a flippy disc is until you throw an Optimizer 😉. When I'm not itching for the discin, I have the yearnin to get the plastic turning ✌UNUS❤
I think what he meant is that it is a touchy disc, not that the stability actually changes. This is true also of the katana and ANY understable, high speed driver. If you throw at a 13 arm speed, the Groove and Katana will both hyzer flip and glide off course for AGES before the katana hooks hard and the groove settles out a bit straighter. BUT throw just slightly too slow, and they will hook up, flip flat, but never turn over going for a long J shape. Throw slightly too much anhyzer and they will burn into the ground. Due to lack of stability, but extreme speed needed to throw properly, they are just very very difficult to throw consistently. Comparitively, no matter how hard you throw a Boss, or Firebird you're not going to overturn it. And the different in throwing it too slow vs the correct speed is just distance, not actual flight path. Same thing with a disc like T bird. Basically no matter how you throw it, it will just hold whatever line you put it on.
Unfortunately I stumbled on your channel after the poll, but I must say I was very shocked to see *NO* discs from Quest Advanced Technology on this list. You literally could fill this entire top 5 with discs from that (now defunct) company! The Turbo Putt? 10M Brick? 100M Laser? The Wheel? These discs grew up in a meme warehouse
The tilt seems like an extreme utility disc like if you have to do a skyzer 100 feet to your left over trees in very strong wind. Probably not enough to justify keeping it in the bag though.
Ngl the Tilt’s one of my favorite discs, I love throwing it through tight gaps with a tomahawk angle and having it fade big at the end, I’d put it in my top five discs actually
I had 2 grooves at one point, both champion. Tbh I don’t mind it, I don’t really throw it anymore but it’s definitely a weird feel thing, it feels weird compared to most. I just have too many discs that are similar to it
i cant begin to explain the relief i feel knowing that my all time bread and butter, the Aerobie Arrow, finally isnt on a worst disc list lol you sirs earned yourself a new sub
I had my girlfriend get an innova manta as a starter disc because it would be easier to throw. She has maybe 150 feet of power and the flight plate cracked end to end in 40 degree weather. Absolute garbage
That's nuts...DX plastic? I feel like you got a defective or something. I've thrown a Manta for years and never had cracking issues. Get her a Star Mako3. Amazing disc for all levels of play.
@@johnshepherd6925 yep DX. That’s what I was thinking maybe a junk run. Funny you should say that but I did actually get her a mako3 at first but it’s still a bit too much disc for her 😂 She’s throwing an axiom paradox now
@@danielmakuch3094 Im a beginner aswell and my favorite disc is the Mako3, it's the perfect disc for beginners in my opinion since it so neutral. Dont have to take into account of it going anywhere else then where you aim it at. Hyzer/anny/flat doesnt matter. I actually have 3 Mako3's in different weights and plastics lol and the only one that flies like an arrow is the 169gram champion plastic. The other ones are like 175dx and 180 star i belive and they bank a decent amount left for me & my friends when they try them.
@@zoom5024 I lost my ages old mako3 earlier this year. I don’t have a use for another at this point but they are lovely discs. I used it for hyzer flips to turn right and the new one (180g star) flies pretty similarly
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Thank you all so much for 10k! We couldn't be more grateful ❤🥲The bag giveaway will be in a Community post in January. Have a safe and happy New Year everyone!
Congrats guys! Super excited for you guys
CONGRATZ!!
Congratulations guys! Great way to end the year, you deserve everything coming to you. Merry Christmas and happy new year
My favorite Swanky moment this discmas was day 16. I smiled the whole episode. Loved the idea of going out to a course with some wrapped discs to give away to strangers. Y’all are lifting spirits. Be safe this New Years Eve everyone. ❤️🙏🏻😇 happy New Year!
förbli tjusig- Stay Swanky!
@@OGRickSanchez Thank you, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you as well!
I don’t get why people hate on the stego and tilt. They do exactly what they’re supposed to do. It’s be one thing if they were advertised as regular workable discs. But they’re supposed to be a brick that goes left. That’s the point.
Yes. I agree that the Groove doesn't do what it's supposed to, but the Stego and Tilt absolutely do.
Exactly, many people have no effin clue what the Tilt is useful for and assume it should be as workable as any overstable 9 speeds.
I'm with you. Hell, just ask Casey White. Dunking a tilt over tree...
@@MaximilianBerkmann yeah. The people who rag on a Tilt have never actually used it in a scramble situation
I wouldn't give much credit to their fanbase being a good representation of players.
The Dragon is a great disc for what it is intended to be. Just to be used by beginners and give them some confidence throwing and knowing that it will float so they won't lose it right away. I still have mine from 12+ years ago and use it as a training disc when i take people out for the first time.
just started disc golf a few months ago and my first birdie was tee'd off with a dragon. dont get the hate, its not meant to be a disc you use forever, just a learner.
I disagree...I am a beginner (2nd season) and the Dragon is the worst of the 30 disks I bought. Way too floaty in the air with almost no control. I have nothing positive to say about the way it flies.
@@Veggamattic Wow really? That's crazy I'm a new disc golfer and one of the first discs my friend gave me was a dragon. I feel very confident with it and was surprised it was on this list.
I found a dragon stuck in some pond mud and have used it here and there and it’s absolutely terrible and flips super easy due to its weight…. But… it does float so I still use it when around deep water!
The dragon is still in production. I bag it for over water shots. I can hyzer flip it and get it to fly pretty straight actually. A guy in my club said that weirdly enough for him different colours flew differently. According to him white ones are a tad more stable than pink ones. It's anecdotal evidence so take this with a grain of salt. Mine is a white one. It's pretty flippy, but when thrown smooth and with some hyzer it flies pretty great.
i love dragons they are my sacrificial discs. can get them like 6 bucks including shipping. I use around water which around here is usually still. and yea different colors do seem to flly different. And i have hand issues the plastic helps me
I throw a white one. Over water, into water, and I'm still going to pack it in the trunk, just not everyday.
That’s a very common thing that happens with discs. I have flippy instincts and then i have OS ones. White and pink ones are typically straighter or flippier and then blue and lime colored ones have been fairly os
I kinda doubt it's just the color making changes to the stability, I'm not outright dismissing that, but I'd point more towards the biggest factor in molding discs being weather. For example let's say you made a bunch of red, blue, and green Dragons one day when it's gorgeous out(higher temps, higher air pressure, but lower humidity) then the next day you stamp your white, yellows, and blacks but a storm rolled in overnight(lower temp, lower pressure, higher humidity), well it makes those identical molds different because of how the plastic sets in different conditions. It's one of the reasons Innova is seen as so inconsistent between molds, they make so many discs that it can be completely different conditions between some colors to others and that alone makes the discs fly a little different than the ones before. I still love Innova, but I tend to just buy their used discs when they have things I want and I tend to bring by bag to the store so I can really compare my favorite discs to ones I might buy. I have some of those godly destroyers from Avery Jenkins times, and for the most part I only buy other destroyers that have a similar feel and dome to them. Now if they'd just swap back the Nova plastic on the inside, the new ones rip like construction paper and break when they hit anything at any force. I broke one on a jump putt last summer, 1st throw I made with it on a really short putter course hit a tree and broke, and that was after I'd broken 4 other ones since Covid appeared. My 2 old ones(5 or 6 years) hit trees occasionally and never had a problem, the new plastic is worthless...
I like that guy! I always say yellow and red fly the best for me (joking of course) but the more people on my side the better!!
I bought an innova groove when they first came out. The problem is the abrupt transition from high speed turn to low speed fade. It felt both understable and overstable at the same time
Yup.. Got an innova leopard, fairway driver in a starter kit with stats 6 5 -2 1
Long story short it’s way too flippy and has abrupt transition as well.. only wants to fly straight when throwing a slow forehand, sometimes backhand.
I have a beat in Champ Groove. Honestly, it flies pretty close to the #'s, and i can probably throw it about 350-375'. Nice long S-Curve--never understood why it got all the hate, maybe I just got lucky and got a good one.
Mine was super straight flyer with sudden steep fade. I thought it was quite predictable under any condition. Not good for distance though. Didn't want a new one once my buddy lost it.
I bag a Groove for forehand shots only. The groove track gives me a perfect grip. I find it to have a very reliable and controllable S curve. I feel I have more pin point control with it than almost any other driver in my bag.
My friend does the same. But for side arm only. Otherwise we (I gave it to him back in the days) both agree on that it is rather a BS disc...
The dragon is absolutely still in production
I have to stand up for the dragon. I think it's a great disc. But for some reasons. i play near water and bushes on some holes that's easy to lose a disc. Bad knee/hip keeps me from climbing down the hills into the water so for me i grab them 6 bucks including shipping and they are sacrificial discs. Also i throw leftie cause of a bum shoulder and my arm speed sucks so they fly fine for me. The plastic even helps me cause of hand issues (factory job life ya'll ) so i just love them. Lol maybe they are just great discs for doc but no one else lol.
With all of your ailments it sounds like the dragon is perfect for you lol. Glad you’re still out ripping though! Keep at it!
@@MuddyPuttersDG what am I gonna do NOT play lol
I hate mine.
I have a setgo which gave me a birdie on its second shot. I love it for throwing over or around trees or bushes.
I HATE the Inova pole cat. It doesn't even feel like a disc. It has a super long and skinny rim, and it's so light that unless your throwing it in a vacuum chamber it's not going to fly the way u want it to. Sorry just had to get that off my chest 😆
Just found y’all. Enjoyed the video. Imma subscribe and see if y’all get to 10k. Happy new year all!
Stego/Baobab are both sick utility discs that are great for scramble shots and flick rollers. And the dragon is still in production
I dont get all the hate for trilogy when none of their discs made top 5 worst. Im betting that maybe only 1 will show up if you guys did a top 10 worst list. Anyways, great content as usual. And I know you guys will make 10k subs easy.
I was thinking about that and I think while they don't have an all-time horrible disc people just don't enjoy their lineup overall as much as your Innova, Discraft or Discmania. Not the worst disc, but worst overall lineup.
@@joshuakirk1555 That was my take also. Do you happen to know the list of manufacturers in the list? I'm not seeing a link in this video. Thanks in advance.
@@joshuakirk1555 was loyal to dynamic discs until they suddenly dropped their understable drivers. At 66, I'm unlikely to improve my arm speed much, so i have to shop elsewhere
I actually found an albatross 2 weeks ago cleaning out my shed. I have no idea how it got there. I was like is this for real. It was so hard like toy plastic. I threw it and it went about 75' dove left hit a gravel path and broke in half. Good luck on 10k! Wish you all a Blessed New Year!
Egads, my daughter got me a Franklin starter disc golf kit for Christmas.... I can't wait to see what I do with the Albatross that was in it!
love my max weight groove. mine’s overstable. just a disc people love to hate i guess. makes me love it even more
I Love the Groove ☹
Second favorite forehand disc behind the Zone and ahead of the Escape
Little Mulberry! I've searched for many a disc in the long grass behind you (in the summer...) 😂
Disagree on the Stego. It is not made to throw a drive with it. It is made for short flex forehand tosses. I have more throw-ins from the 60-80 foot range than anything else I bag. A steak is not meant to be cut with a spoon. Use it properly and you might change your mind.
I had an awesome Groove, lost it, replaced it with a terrible Groove. However, I have the same story with the Destroyer
No such thing as a bad disc, just bad throws yo
Congrats on hitting 10k!!!
What’s wrong with the tilt?
Nothing. There's a lot wrong with most people tho
Soooooo close to the 10k subscriber goal for the end of the year!!! C’mon guys!
The stego could be used as a utility disc where you have to get back to the fairway. Definitely not something to use to get distance.
Man, Discmania and Discraft getting some hate. Two of my top three. Starting to like Dynamic Disc also. This is also funny because I'm out of state without my bag, so I just bought a Dragon to use. 🤣
i like dragons but yea they get hate for trying new things but then ppl are always whining about wanting them to try new things lol.
👎 dynamic
When I need a disc to hook harder than my Get Freaky Zone, I reach for the Tilt. Also great for short anhyzer shot shaping and scrambling out of the woods.
I use it to get out of bad spots all the time. Works well
I hyzer flipped a Franklin Albatross into a roller and had it not hit the wood line I think it would've gone a mile. It will always have my respect for that
If drew can only throw the stego 48 feet, I could probably only throw it backwards
if drew can only throw it 48 feet then im singing up for more distance comps lol
LOL
For practice in an open space the Dragon is one of my favorites to throw from Innova. They do get beaten up and are only 150g so they are easy to overpower.
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Congrats on 10k subs!!
Wild. The Groove was the first disc I ever got. Found it on a course and no one wanted it back. As I started to play with what was the only disc I had, I thought that disc golf was just SUPER hard. Nope. Well I guess as my interest in disc golf is coming back around I’ll try to get back into it, but I’ll go get myself a Buzzz or something to start.
Congrats Swanky team for hitting 10 plus subscribers
My dad actually bags an albatross 😂
is there a shot he uses it on? seems like for us slow arm ppl could give us a good roller lol
Is it possible that my R pro boss is 134grams? It feels very lightweight
I throw only franklin discs! Just signed my first 10 million dollar deal with Franklin to represent their discs for the whole pro tour!
Random Drone around 3:45-4:20
Hahaha love you guys!
Dragons have become a meme at my club for just how understable they are. When I throw them backhand, they turn over completely and land upside-down. When I thow them overhand, they flip all the way though to right side up. And I don't throw unusually far or anything.
Interesting vid, most don't seem to be common use discs.. mostly very unique single situation utility discs that can really be replaced with learning shot types
CONGRATS ON THE 10k!!!
Tilt is great for scrambles
It's my get outa jail free card because you always know what it's gonna do and you can throw it at crazy angles to find your way outta the woods.
Yes the dragon is total garbage, ‘floats’ gimmick. Can either throw gentle 100ft in the pond or normal power goes roller into the pond 👎
This made me laugh - my experience has been the same with the Dragon. I have mixed feelings about "losing" it on a course: not sure it's right to put that burden on another person. If anyone is looking for a floating disk they can throw over a pond, I've had better success with the Peace Frog from AquaFlight discs. It flies like a stable putter, similar to a Judge. It has a deeper edge though.
Love the watermelon, and discs but subbed cause of the great content. Thanks guys.
Dragon is good for children.
Exactly! Good for beginners with lower arm speeds. My son threw really well with it when he was starting out. Now he is beginning to out grow it.
Eyeing through all the comments, it seems to have quite a big support. I mean, it does what it’s supposed to… Most incomprehensible choice on this list.
I throw in with the Stego more often then Envies, P2s Harps combined. Still great content, thank you!
The groove is badass and is my go to forehand driver , I’ve birdied a or of holes with my grooves and will continue to do so ! I will take any unwanted grooves
Congrats on 10k! Luke, I think your Berg content put you guys over the top... 🤣
Keep up the great content guys!
For some of us older guys, the 10 m Brick has to be the worst disc ever made. I haven’t seen one in 15 years. The minority of the weight is in the center of the disc. Imagine glueing 2 heavy mini’s to a wet paper plate.
This should be renamed "top 5 discs normies don't understand or know how to throw".
Congratulations on 10K!!!
Definitely not me bagging two grooves🤷♂️
the poll was skewed by haters lol
my brothers first ace was a dx dragon tomahawk over water, it got stuck
in a tree for a sec and fell into the basket hitting 0 chains. his 12th ace was a forehand with a tilt.
Used to bag a groove, takes touch but each their own
Putting Franklin discs on this was kind of lame also. They aren’t even pdga certified lol
I love how you decided to give away the worst looking bag on the worst disc episode. 😂
Your video are inspirational to those who want to get into the game
Congratulations on the 10k you Guys are awesome 🤙🏻💯
The groove was one of my first drivers, I hated the way it felt but didnt mind the flight :) Buddy of mine borrowed and lost it behind a barb wire fence lol
The only customer on the Franklin Disc website is 5 stars. This guy like it so much, he bought it twice! LOL. The review reads as follows:
"I have reordered the Disc Golf Discs, 3 Pack. The first two sets provided a fun and rewarding workout for family and friends. Unfortunately, several discs ended up in a community pond and not all were recovered. Ordering more so we can continue to enjoy the outings. Phoenix, AZ."
That’s hilarious the groove is #2. Everyone that has the Groove can send it my way. I love it. I always have 2-3 in my bag lol. I will take them off your hands. Thank you!
Hell yeah, Still bag a first run green one with huge stamp.
I’m right there with ya , I throw a groove whenever I can
Why all the hate on the groove I literally got my first ace with one and both of mine fly the same
interesting list. Cool bag. Never seen that watermelon bag before.
Congrats on 10k!!
You should do a video of Swankys worst discs.
I have a yellow Dragon and have found that I really like the disc but am careful not to over power it.
I have a yellow one too and it's th worst disc I have ever owned.
I don't know why the groove gets so much hate. I had one I got 2 aces with. I eventually lost it on Bengal Ridge in Pocatello i had a lighter one that i really didn't like after i lost the red one, but now I've got a sweet black and red halo groove, and i like it better than i liked old red. The halo plastic on the rim just feels much better.
Happy new year gang!
Good to see bottom 5… would love a bottom 20!! So many top 10 lists toooo many and usually by sponsored folks or companies producing them or Pros that can’t really trash a disc without effecting their career. Thanks!!! And I love watermelons seeds and all!!!
There's a ghost orb that comes into the shot back in the woods at 3:40
I don't mind the groove. I think it's more like - 0.5 turn. Thrown a bunch and they all fly the same. Stable straight flight for 300 then a 30-40 foot fade. It's not great but I don't have hate for it.
The tilt does exactly what its supposed to do and has saved me a stroke in multiple scramble situations 🤷
Yes, it's the best scramble disc available
@@ryosapien27 let's play a round together in the woods ;) hopefully i don't have to use it, but if I do, I'll be happy its in the bag
I love the Goove...only bad disc golfers hate it cause they don't know how to throw it. It is very predictable...understable hss and it dumps hard at the end...lots of situations where that comes in handy.
congrats on hitting 10k swanky guys! you barely pulled it off in the knick of time
Congrats on the 10k followers 🔥
An approach that limits my distance to 150' sounds like a winner and the same reason I play with slammers and zone.
Good job guys, I really like watching.
GRATS on 10K!!
congrats on 10k!
Dragon is still a production mold.... still mids tho
I think I own the flippiest Albatross ever... First disc golf purchase. Lost it in the woods. Played another year, learned the game.. and then someone found my Albatross. It spent something like 9 months (partly through the winter) in the woods, unprotected. It is absolutely unthrowable. I can attest to the barrel roll phenomena. I keep it on my shelf for its sentimental value.. but garbage otherwise. (SIDE NOTE, the putter that came in that pack is really good in my opinion, I still practice put with it to this day).
And I have an ace on a 330ft hole with a groove 😂
Love mine. Have backups for days
Damn, I own three out of five of those discs 😅
But will it prevent you from buying the other two? ;)
I honestly like every disc I've ever thrown.
The only reason people don't like the Groove is because during the cooling process the wing tends to droop or pull up more causing the PLH to be more inconsistent then most molds. So it's only inconsistent between different runs, thus being harder to find a equal replacement.
Once the disc cools off it is what it is, the stability doesn't change between different throws.
I happen to like the Stego but mine version is the Gateway disc Sports predecessor. Dave McCormick designed it way back and never put it in production because he didn't think it would be widely accepted. Then RDG bought the rights to the mold about 4 or 5 years ago and had it PDGA approved.
As far as the Dragon it a nice feeling DX plastic mixture and of course it turns into a paper plate flight for most if you exceed the speed limit of the disc. For a player with any type of arm speed it's definitely a finesse discs.
I have see Paul McBeth throw extremely flippy plastic that would normally hyzer flip or turn over to roller for most players on a pure hyzer line out to 350+ feet.
Most people can't throw a beat-up flippy Dragon on a pure Hyzer line to 350+ it would simply turn over or at least Flip to Flat.
Honestly most people throw with some amount of OAT (off-axis torque) leading them to believe the disc isn't as stable as it really is.
Most people have never heard of the Optimizer or Maximizer golf discs, if they were familiar they would both be on the list. You really don't know what a flippy disc is until you throw an Optimizer 😉.
When I'm not itching for the discin, I have the yearnin to get the plastic turning ✌UNUS❤
I think what he meant is that it is a touchy disc, not that the stability actually changes. This is true also of the katana and ANY understable, high speed driver. If you throw at a 13 arm speed, the Groove and Katana will both hyzer flip and glide off course for AGES before the katana hooks hard and the groove settles out a bit straighter. BUT throw just slightly too slow, and they will hook up, flip flat, but never turn over going for a long J shape. Throw slightly too much anhyzer and they will burn into the ground. Due to lack of stability, but extreme speed needed to throw properly, they are just very very difficult to throw consistently.
Comparitively, no matter how hard you throw a Boss, or Firebird you're not going to overturn it. And the different in throwing it too slow vs the correct speed is just distance, not actual flight path. Same thing with a disc like T bird. Basically no matter how you throw it, it will just hold whatever line you put it on.
Unfortunately I stumbled on your channel after the poll, but I must say I was very shocked to see *NO* discs from Quest Advanced Technology on this list. You literally could fill this entire top 5 with discs from that (now defunct) company! The Turbo Putt? 10M Brick? 100M Laser? The Wheel? These discs grew up in a meme warehouse
The tilt seems like an extreme utility disc like if you have to do a skyzer 100 feet to your left over trees in very strong wind. Probably not enough to justify keeping it in the bag though.
Ngl the Tilt’s one of my favorite discs, I love throwing it through tight gaps with a tomahawk angle and having it fade big at the end, I’d put it in my top five discs actually
is this filmed at Alexander?
I'd wager most who voted haven't even thrown several of the discs and are just going off what they've heard/read on line.
I had 2 grooves at one point, both champion. Tbh I don’t mind it, I don’t really throw it anymore but it’s definitely a weird feel thing, it feels weird compared to most. I just have too many discs that are similar to it
I new I liked many discs people
Others did not.
Dragon is understable but it’s meant for lower to mid arm speeds.
Yo grats on 10k!!!!!
i cant begin to explain the relief i feel knowing that my all time bread and butter, the Aerobie Arrow, finally isnt on a worst disc list lol you sirs earned yourself a new sub
Happy New year guys
Happy new year!
So if you don't get to 10K then you're not thankful and we should all just unsubscribe?
10,000!!!
Tilt has it's uses. Near to useless on open fields but that disc can do interesting things in forrests.
I had my girlfriend get an innova manta as a starter disc because it would be easier to throw. She has maybe 150 feet of power and the flight plate cracked end to end in 40 degree weather. Absolute garbage
That's nuts...DX plastic? I feel like you got a defective or something. I've thrown a Manta for years and never had cracking issues. Get her a Star Mako3. Amazing disc for all levels of play.
@@johnshepherd6925 yep DX. That’s what I was thinking maybe a junk run. Funny you should say that but I did actually get her a mako3 at first but it’s still a bit too much disc for her 😂
She’s throwing an axiom paradox now
@@danielmakuch3094 Im a beginner aswell and my favorite disc is the Mako3, it's the perfect disc for beginners in my opinion since it so neutral. Dont have to take into account of it going anywhere else then where you aim it at. Hyzer/anny/flat doesnt matter. I actually have 3 Mako3's in different weights and plastics lol and the only one that flies like an arrow is the 169gram champion plastic. The other ones are like 175dx and 180 star i belive and they bank a decent amount left for me & my friends when they try them.
@@zoom5024 I lost my ages old mako3 earlier this year. I don’t have a use for another at this point but they are lovely discs. I used it for hyzer flips to turn right and the new one (180g star) flies pretty similarly
Surprised that Katana didn’t make the list
That’s my favorite driver!