The “modesty” that Pentecostals refer to are unfortunately pinned as a certain specific thing ie: no pants. It stems from their interpretation of women not dressing in men’s clothing. And really has nothing to do with modesty. I fear that talking about modesty without confronting this misuse of scripture is hard to listen to. There is freedom in Christ and the religiosity of legalism where this stems from and I’ve seen the new wave of this legalism rewrapped as “doing it for Jesus”. Context in scripture is important. And I hope that everyone remembers that the Spirit convicts us from sin and coming from Pentecostal background, the dressing modestly outlook emphasizes more on our “bodies” than our eyes on Christ. I encourage you to have a Pastor to speak on this with scripture. Cultish has a few episodes on it too and talks about it also.
Yes this is so true! When she said something along the lines of not knowing where she will go when the rapture comes is totally missing the point. If you have faith and trust in JESUS then you don’t have to be scared on where you will be going when you die. A lot of these videos and podcasts seem to be missing the Gospel message on what Christ has done for us rather then what we can do for God. Milena if you are reading this, please remember to share the Gospel on here, is so important and vital for salvation❤️
Unless you’ve been a part of UPCI you can’t assume our doctrine. Not all Pentecostals are the same for one. And two, it’s not based off of our bodies rather than Christ? It’s about dying to our flesh and to glorify Christ instead of ourselves. And modesty for us isn’t just about clothing either. It’s a heart issue first. I could wear a turtle neck and a maxi skirt and still be immodest if my heart isn’t modest and obedient to Christ. I’m not going to argue with a fellow sister in Christ on this- I just didn’t appreciate how you practically tore down a giant section of believers just because they don’t agree on certain pieces of scripture the way you do. Denominations mean nothing to me. If you love Jesus and it shows in how you treat others and live your life for him then that’s all that matters. I hate how us Christians call out theology more than we do sin. We can agree to disagree and still encourage each other to follow Christ without division.
@@MrsBriannaLee not tearing down any believers in Christ. Yes, UPCI is my background. And this belief comes from David Bernard’s teachings on the “holiness” doctrine. And for anyone who is curious, he has a book on this which explains further where this belief comes from. As a fellow sister in the Lord I pray we can agree on “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.” Ephesians 2:8-9 Let our words glorify God and God alone.
@@linagarciaa I’ve read his teachings but women have been wearing dresses or tunics with robes for literally hundreds upon hundreds of years. Since the beginning really. It’s based off of the history of civilization more than Bro. Bernard’s teachings. And many other Christians that don’t agree with apostolics wear dresses only as well. I do believe in by grace through faith. But faith without works is dead as well and I believe that if we really love Him, then we’ll keep his commandments. If you don’t feel convicted with pants and choose to wear them, that’s okay! That doesn’t make you any less of a believer than one that chooses to only wear dresses. It’s where your heart is and intentions are that the Lord ultimately weighs in the end. God bless💕
Hi, Milena. My mom has dressed modest since I could remember and I am now 28 years old. She wears shorter shorts around the house. Because of the modesty within her heart, I’ve never looked at her and thought, “you’re fake for wearing short shorts at home but not in public”. As Joanna said, I knew that my mom was being comfortable in her home and most importantly she wore modesty in her heart. So, I would say to be sensitive to continue being sensitive to the Holy Spirit when he says to change the length and fit of your home. ❤
As a traditional Catholic, this episode is amazing, thank you both!!! I used to wear skimpy bikinis, super short shorts, crop tops, etc. But when I started to take my faith more seriously, I had to get rid of 80% of my wardrobe. Having my husband there to tell me what he thought was acceptable or not was a huge help
Favorite episode thus far 🩷🩷 Absolutely warmed my heart. I am Pentecostal/apostolic and only wear skirts/dresses. I have a swim skirt from Amazon, I work out in skirts, and I love it!! My 2 year old has a swim skirt. This side of Christianity is not discussed enough. Modesty is more than a “rule” or a “standard” it’s literally about obedience and commitment to our God!! There is so much blessing in modesty. I feel as a new mom with lots of body changes and now thinking about what my 2 daughters are seeing me do, I am more modest than ever and constantly making sure clothes fit correctly and that my intentions are right when I am dressing. My pastors wife one said something that pierced my heart and still sticks with me, “you have to choose between feeling sexy or being godly”. This was a fantastic episode!! Thank you for sharing this with the world!!
Reformed bible believing christian here, and agreed except, feeling sexy with your husband in the privacy of your Marital bedroom is not sin. God created sensuality and sexuality to be appropriately expressed in the bedroom between a husband and wife. In any other context, it's sin. But, saying sexiness is sin and stopping there is legalistic and not biblical. That's how we get wives afraid of being intimate with their husband's because they think they're sinning
So relatable. I wore skinny jeans for attention seeking. I only wore dress for church or events. But after pregnancy my views with dresses changed and after pregnancy I had a sense that I don't want to dress provocative and slothy anymore. I felt the clothing I had no longer served me. I'm slowly upgrading and loving dresses and occasional longer shorts for warmer weather. Just following the convictions of the Holy Spirit.
This was a beautiful episode and a message any Christian should hear about the heart posture of modesty. I grew up within the Mennonite/amish culture and the religion and conformity that is required felt restrictive even amid correct biblical teaching, comparison and judgment between Christians was very real. After I stopped covering my head and started modestly wearing pants etc I felt so much freedom in my walk with Christ because I knew he didn’t judge me because my heart was still in the right place. That was a revelation for me. Maybe he will change me again someday but for now I see the benefits of not being forced to wear only skirts.
Yeah I totally understand where you’re coming from. It’s all about heart posture and intent. Maybe for you, the restrictions of clothing modesty was a stumbling block…like it made you feel like you had to strive for acceptance/perfection. And that’s why you feel free, now that you broadened your wardrobe. I’m on the exact same journey…except I’m Pentecostal lol. We’ll see. But I wouldn’t be surprised if I felt called back to skirts only in three future
@@DeniSoars yes that was perfectly described! I love wearing dresses and skirts still, but I like the freedom of choosing. My cousin once said women who wear pants go to hell. I just can’t get over the religious and immodest posture that truly is to believe such a thing. God bless your journey!
I also dress “flattering” at home and cover up outside. And it’s awesome because you’re setting the example for your kids. “Be comfy at home & when you’re out you’re to be respected”
But respect and clothes are not things that go together. I dont deserve less respect than someone who is competely covered. Clothes IS NOT EQUAL to respect. Clothes are just clothes. If you like modest clothes, good for you. If you like sexy clothes good for you. Is just taste in clothes. It has nothing to do with respect. I can see someone completely covered and be an a$$hole, and that person wont have my respect. I can see a person with short shorts, and a bandeau being kind to someone or to animals and that person will have my respect 100%.
It’s so great to listen to you guys! As someone who was raised in a very strict and religious church, where I was forced to wear ONLY skirts and always had to braid my hair and was never properly explained why, it’s a very sensitive topic to me. I never thought that there are women who come from a very different background and go this modest way voluntarily not because they have to 🤗 I love to see that you dress modest because you love Jesus! When I got saved I prayed that the lord would show and convicted me of the things that are not his heart. And I learned to live in the freedom of Christ, not to follow man made rules. He has convicted me of some things, that I don’t wear, as short skirts and shorts, but I enjoy the feeling to wear pants and jeans and not feel sinful because people around me believe that. Thank you for talking about this very interesting and controversial topic! God bless you!💕
I have a similar story. The intention is good but I needed to completely step away from a religious connection to skirts and dresses before I felt free to really enjoy wearing them (as I do now!). I’m fine with pants and sleeveless tops don’t bother me but I’ve realized this NEEDS to be between each individual and the Lord in order for it to be something good and beautiful. I’ve had a lot of thoughts about this. It’s making me really careful with how I raise my daughters. Be blessed! 🤗
THANK YOU! I’m 61 & the two of you facilitated new connections within me today! I’m understanding modesty now in a whole new way…. the way that matters! ✨Grateful! ❤️🙏🏽
I felt how you ladies did for a long time about being more comfortable at home and I still do for to an extent but I have geared myself way more to even modesty in front of my children. Even though we are rising children in a Christian home, they are still going to walk their own walk with God and there is so much wickedness put before their eyes, maybe not in this moment but when they go into the world. We can’t perfectly protect them from worldly thoughts being put in their heads. Whats the scripture about the son who looked away from his father’s nakedness and he was righteous? I’m so grateful for your ladies. Only chatting here about my recent years changes. I am a mama and my eldest is 13, youngest 10. I stared modeling that modesty is for everyone, in front of everyone except our spouse who is to be in union as one. And it sets a defined line that also sets their body boundary firm to not be groomed for improper relationships with any family member that could be struggling with an unknown sin. I am only providing these thoughts because you ladies opened your hearts to ask about it. And in case these things I’m seeing for my own family, might be something you could use for yourself or someone else in your witnessing journey. God bless lovely souls.
My boyfriend sent me a video of Joana about a year ago and I wasn’t offended at all I was like thank you because I knew I was still attached to my old style a little bit and I didn’t know how to let it go or feel beautiful so covered up dad to say! But you have helped both of you honestly so much with my confidence as a woman and being more feminine I’m so thankful !
As a Muslim girly on her modesty journey I’m so glad we are finally talking about this topic. For years and years as Muslim women we were constantly told that modesty is oppressive and freedom equated to revealing as much skin as possible.
Assalamualaikum sister I’m also a Muslim watching but our community has so many good examples of fashionable modesty unfortunately Milena will not acknowledge the Muslim community, and when she does, she speak down upon us
The Bible says that Jesus-Christ is the son of God and that no one is saved if it’s not by Him. My ex brother-in-law was muslim and that is the main difference. So if you dress modest but don’t believe in Jesus-Christ as your savior (and that you are approuved by God only because of Jesus) it has nothing to do with christianity - many people in the world dress modest and don’t believe in God at all. For christians, it’s not supposee (according to the Bible) to be thing we do that save us but Jesus-Christ’s sacrifice who accomplished it all. That is why the topic that Milena and this guest are talking about is religious and that they are going further from the Gospel by focusing on dress vs pants etc the way they do… :(
I literally love following both of you guys!! You both are such an inspiration to me!! Every video you post gives me conviction and the confidence to keep on dressing modesty and really diving deep into Gods word!!
Milena! So encouraging! I love listening to different perspectives about modesty, Hod has used your platform to encourage me to take steps towards this. Overall it IS a heart posture change and it’s okay if it doesn’t look the same for everyone! Thankful for the Holy Spirit at work, especially in the woman of God, what a blessing. Praise the Lord.
Wow this was the colab I loved to see!!! I am apostolic and having people like her helps me so much! Specially since I was raised catholic to becoming apostolic and changing so much of myself and learning true modesty.
MY FAVVVV DUOOOO!!! Joana the growth I’ve seen in you for so many years is amazing!! So Godly proud of you & Milena what TH-cam and instagram has witnessed is sooo beautiful! God is SOO good
Being modest goes way beyond just the clothes you wear. Are we being modest in the way we talk about people, prioritize our time, our language day to day? You only really talk about modesty in clothing but I don't really think that's as big of a deal as the other things that truly matter.
Clothes are huge. It tempts others. It makes others jealous and insecure. It's pride. It's vanity. It's being lustful and wanting to be lusted. It's extravagance. It's having to have designer labels or what's on trend. It's covetousness and often the cause of debt (it was for me). So many issues. But it is all wrapped up in not being humble. Not willing to be the least s3xy girl in the room. It's being willing to not have all eyes on you. I used to dress vintage. I realize now that, although I wasn't immodest as in showing too much, I was immodest in that walking in looking like you stepped out of the 1940s was drawing attention to myself. Red lipstick 💄 was drawing attention to myself. Modesty is a lot of things from the inside out. But the idea that is merely internal or merely external are both wrong. I'm probably free thinking here and not disagreeing with your other points, but still believe how we dress is important
I needed this episode!! I'm Orthodox and slowly working my way back to a healthy relationship with God. After leaving my ex who was abusive and manipulative, controlled what I wore, I went the opposite route and dressed promiscuously. Reframing what modesty means to me in the process. I'm single and pray God would will me to have a husband, but my heart is telling me that the first step he wants me to take is to dress more modestly.
Funny. I’ve been on a clothing modesty journey, thanks to Milena speaking boldly. And lately my conviction has been my language… so it matches my modest appearance. Thank you for saying that part ❤ confirmation 🙏🏻
Your question about what to wear around your kids in the evening... I would throw a robe or a long sweatshirt dress over so that the kids don't see whats underneath but when they aren't up or around it's easy to take off for your alone time with hubby.
Love the bit on swearing, how God put that on your heart That was a big part of my faith journey too. And controlling my tongue still is a challenge . Trying not to gossip now and talk about people behind their back. Trying not to complain, criticise, compare
I have bought skirts with slits in and then sewn up the gap again with a sewing machine. Also I had a dresses with a v neck that was too low cut for me so I sewed it a few inches higher too. There is another low cut one I have but I only wear it with a cardigan on top
I LOVE THIS! I felt convicted regarding modesty and stopped wearing pants as well. Just skirts and dresses. And almost always with leggings or biker shorts underneath ❤ God made tunics for Adam and Eve. I believe our "goods" should be covered and that doesn't take away from wearing cute/pretty things we like. I personally have young boys and I don't feel comfortable wearing skimpy things around them. I don't think it's a great example of modesty for them to see. My husband loves literally anything I wear. I wear looser mid thigh shorts around the house and nursing tank tops with sweatshirt or tshirt over it. That's basically it. Regarding the leggings material, ditch the polyester and get 98% cotton or merino wool :)
Hi Milena! I loved this conversation! My family and I are Pentecostal as well and growing up, as we got older my mom was always modest in and outside of the home! She wore either a long shirt over her pajama pants that covered her butt or wore a nightgown because I have two brothers and my mom felt convicted wearing something that may potentially cause them to stumble in any way as we all got older. I hope that helps, seek the Lord on it!!😊❤
My testimony with dress: Got saved( really re- dedicated my life to Christ) at nearly 17. I was raised in a very strict pentecostal church where the women wore long skirts/dresses. There was alot of condemnation surrounding clothing for women. I received Jesus as savior at elementary school age. Fast forward to my teen years, where I still prayed but didn't want church or rules anymore- I started sleeping around and got pregnant. I remember visiting a new church with my newborn in tow and sitting way at the back with my mom who kept bugging me to just go with her. I sat in front of some older ladies for several weeks, who I'd imagined would be judgemental of me. On the contrary they were so kind and always smiled at me, and wanted to talk to me. My unwed,teen mom situation was quite obvious- my short skirts and low tops were just how I dressed and my mom had stopped telling me to change them. These women seen past my dress and immoral lifestyle and showed love to me, the unconditional love from Jesus. My boyfriend (& baby's father) joined me at church a month later. He went up to pray and dedicate his life to God and I went up with him, in my mini skirt and low top, and it was when he kneeled down to pray and I did too to support him, that I felt that first twinge of conviction from the Lord, and felt I needed to pull the bottom of my skirt down and pull my top up to cover myself, not a shameful, "you're dirty", but something that would keep me doing it since then, which was God lovingly coming beside me to bring conviction not condemnation. I realized it was HIM who I wanted to please, and for love of God, not shame for the first time ever.Nobody needed to scold me because I had true heart change. 😊❤ Second edit here ;) cuz this is so much on my heart today to share. I continued to dress modestly thereafter, but out of love for my Savior and not shame. Just wanted to share that I dress modestly at home too because I didn't want my son seeing more of me than I felt convicted by God to be showing. I do save it for my husband and he enjoys me flaunting it then. God's blessings to all of you ladies and praying the Lord Himself will guide you in this and all topics ✝️ ❤
How do you deal with dressing modestly while being in an environment where other women are not. I too used to dress immodest before I was saved for attention and now that Im more covered I find it difficult at times when Im with my husband and other women are dressed with very little clothing seeking that same attention. (Male gaze) For example, at the beach you will easily see several women in thong bikinis. Or at the gym youll see the tightest sports bras and booty shorts. I havent really heard anyone speak to this.
Yes! This makes me severely uncomfortable. Even though my husband is a Godly man and isn’t looking, he still sees them. It makes me feel a certain way inside that just kills my joy. I almost start to feel insecure about myself..sadly. Anyway I have been praying for relief over this subject and have faith that it will no longer affect my mental health anymore. 🙏
Same !!! I brought this to God and He really put on my heart to pray for those girls who are dressing for male gaze. As soon as I start praying for them I stop thinking about me or my husband and I just feel love for them! This has really helped me have an enjoyable time out with my family ❤
Joaannnaaaaaa!!! My two favs…together! 🥰 So happy to see her on she’s definitely my go-to for modest fashion not to mention her HAIR! The most beautiful hair I’ve ever seen. And Milena, you are giving 1950s supermodel. ❤ This makes me happy! 😊😊😊
I really have to sit and contemplate my modest journey because it was really influenced by those around me. I was in nondenominational Christian circles and they didn't dress too different from the world except not wearing stuff that showed obvious booty or boobs. The fashion was more androgynous athletic or frumy grunge. I never felt too bad about what I wore. I've always dressed feminine, but I've had a desire to be even more feminine, and it's watching this channel and others, I've been inspired to wear mostly more dresses and skirts in my daily wardrobe. Interesting to see the other comments about growing up in strict modesty. That was not my cas. My mom put me and my sisters in booty shorts and tube tops as little girls. There was rarely any modesty except for at church when we went a few times a year. My fashion only slightly changed when I got saved. My sister converted to Islam and her fashiom flipped 180, she dresses similar to the Amish now. What I've noticed is those who grew up immodest and become "religious" can take in the conviction of being modest and voluntarily submit to God's desire for a covered woman because we know what the other side yields in our life and we knew the sin motivation we had in our hearts prior.
@RCGWho At the time, I was trying to get her to come to college ministry with me. She just started the same college I had been attending. She was on a religious exploration, she tried a bunch of different stuff, went to this cult for a few weeks, then joined a different group of immigrant students, they told all these false things about Jesus, and she's been Islamic ever since. We had a bad falling out about cuz I was newly saved and was trying to tell her Allah was of Satan, I repeated words my small group leader had told me, and gave her Christian books which she just returned back. My sister was pretty angry, and I think it affected our relationship for years. Eventually, things cooled off. I spent that time curious about other religions and did self-study on all the different faiths, which built up in me the Christian vigor to know YHWH the God of the bible is one true and living God. Currently, my sister is going through a shift in her ideology, particularly politics, because of the lies and mass manipulation from the government these past 4 years and how that stuff directly impacted her. She told me one day that the Christians get a lot of stuff right in regards to family, life, etc. She's now very prolife and pro family. Stuff, she never was even in Islam. She still needs prayer, but she is seeing some goodness in Christians when she hadn't before. And that could be her roots calling back to her because we did grow up going to church sometimes as children. That foundation, though weak, is still there.
When God asked me to dress modest her account was the first one that I found on Instagram, and I'm so glad I did. Now I'm go to her Bible study. It's super cool to see how she shows her personality and modesty, and she looks beautiful doing it. To God be the glory!
I have been changing to become more modest. It's not a set of clothing rules- it's a heart posture. Where are you attempting to stand out or be Sexy? Do you want to seem better or make people be jealous? For me, my conviction was around being flashy and fashionable. I enjoyed being the best dressed in any space. I owned nearly 100 pairs of heels. I was also trying to showcase my athletic physique, which I did by highlighting my waist. So i felt convicted to stop wearing skin tight clothes, even if they covered me, and I dress in a more classic and plain way. I don't feel convicted about my Leggings because it's purely a comfort thing and I'm not wearing them for attention. I do feel convicted about showing any hint of cleavage because OTHER people seem to pay attention to it. You have to search your heart and pray about this.
I've always preferred wearing dresses, but before I got saved I did wear crop tops and shorts, but since I got saved I just naturally dress more modest. recently I've felt like swimming in a swimdress rather than a bikini. I think it's different for everyone. I used to wear skinny jeans, but I don't really wear them anymore. I do wear leggins, but I feel more comfortable wearing a dress or skirt over them.
So crazy I just followed Joana today on ig & now I see this video so cool! Milena was deff a huge inspiration for me in my modesty journey. Im still learning and changing things but truly agree that the closer you get to God he truly transforms you! ✨
I love that she’s your Emily and you’ve been mine lol. I very much appreciate all of the modesty content. It’s become a conviction for me this year for sure
ever since going to an all girls boarding school for two years I stopped wearing underwire bras. back when I was in a mixed class and outside of school I wanted to attract guys attention when wearing bras. I watched a video by jasmyne theodora in which she said it's better not to wear underwire bras. I sometimes wear those trainer bras for certain dresses or shirts, but I hardly ever wear normal bras anymore.
I am not religious at all but I am really curious, why are pants not modest? i feel like pants can be really baggy for example and dresses and skirts can be really body hugging. Can someone explain pls?
From everything I’ve seen it seems like a lot of Christians have different terms of what’s “modest”. So it’s going depend on different peoples perspectives because as you stated skirts and dresses can be really body hugging. There are a couple versus in the Bible about women not wearing what a man would wear. But again fashion has changed so much over time and what women wore back in the time different parts of the Bible were written was EXTREMELY different to what women wear now. (Head coverings for one example) Some people feel convicted to wear dresses only while others feel that length and fit is more important than dresses only. I personally wear pants still and they are no where near anything my husband would ever wear nor are they revealing and I’m not dressing to show anything off. So I personally feel like pants can be modest. Sorry that was a long answer, but honestly you’ll find a lot of different answers from different perspectives on what’s modest and what’s not.
And to add, anything that causes either sex to list after you is causing them to commit adultery in their heart. We should do our best to not cause a brother or sister to stumble. If Jesus was looking at your outfit, would he admire how beautiful you look, or be saddened at how you dress
pants are not inherently immodest! modesty is much more of a heart issue than it is a physical condition! Modesty should be maintained as a form of worship/conviction/submission!! at around the 20 min mark they share the scripture james 4:17 “so whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin” so if that isn’t something that you are being asked to abide in by your shepherd or spouse or the Lord it’s not immodest:) let me know if that helps:)
Think about leggings with no baggy shirt to cover. Think about the perfect pair of Levi's 501s on a perfect rear. That's super tempting to a man. You're right, body con dresses are nope.
This is something that I struggle with. I am starting to dress more modestly in the weekends when I'm out and about. However my day job is in a nursery with babies. My dresses aren't practically in the setting. I wear leggings and long baggy shirts. It's something that I think about a lot and I'm not sure what else I would wear.
if you can show shoulders or upper chest, i really like those dresses that wrap around the chest, then immediately flow off so you cant see the body shape. its a small elastic band on top, then pretty much a flowy sheet. that with a light cardigan is what i do for heat. i think leaving the arm pits open with a cover on really helps. plus bring a victorian fan! talk about sexy, those things are iconic
I’ve been dressing modest for years now. my kids were 4 years old when I started. I wore jeans or whatever in my house, but then God convicted me, that if I am doing this for others to see me then it wasn’t for him. If modesty is how God ask me to dress then I wanted it to be in my home as well and didn’t like feeling like a hypocrite in teaching my kids, which should be our most important people we minister to. So from that day on I woke up and dressed modest. Saved shorts or short gowns for my bedroom only. For hubby to see. And now my girls are young adults still in our home and dress modest. PTL 🙌🏻
It is very important to hear and listen as to why God called them to modesty. Clothing was their god and idol. Their focused were to attract others with what they were wearing. The same way can be with girls that wear skirts and dresses to attract a certain demographic of men that find that more attracting then pants. Your figure still shows in dresses and skirts. Born and raised pentecostal all my life and legalism and being thought to wear skirts just to show that you were “christian” or “holly” really bothers me to compare modesty to just skirts and pants. It’s more then that. It all lays in the heart. Christianity is more than clothing. You can be very immodest wearing skirts and dresses as well. Very tired of hearing modesty to just skirts and dresses and defining that as holly. This is all personal conviction. And you both were starting to feel convicted because of the way you we’re both dressing, one to provoke and the other one just going with the flow of other influencers and what was popular and as what the world set out as the “standard” of fashion. We can all shine and show God’s love through our actions, not just our clothes. As she said, whats the point if you are still not loving your neighbor. Love this conversation though. And love how you both are being obedient to the Lord. 💜💜 What I do is before I leave my house I ask the holly spirit if what Im wearing its ok and don’t feel that tug in my heart that says change, I go about my day. Not focusing it all on my clothes. And Pray that my actions, a smile or a God bless you to someone can change their day. ❤❤ Let’s remember, your clothes wont send you to hell, your disobedience to what the holly spirit is trying to change in you will. That is when it becomes a sin.
Theres nothing righteous about your butt showing from wearing pants, idk why women try not to offend other women for “not feeling convicted to stop dressing sexy” the fact of the matter is that you can have a filthy heart and still dress Holy AND But you cannottttttttt have a pure heart if you dress pants that show the full shape of your butt! Ive met such lovely sisters in Christ but they WILL NOT GIVE UP their lustful clothing even if they’re married, its a spiritual stronghold & its is disobedience to God!! They will find out on judgement day.
I really implore you to check your heart. Stating that our sisters in Christ will “find out on Judgement day” when it comes to wearing pants is really disappointing. Our Father is righteous and just, but He is also gracious and loving. Pants vs skirts is NOT a salvation issue. Acting as if we can retain our salvation by our dress completely diminishes everything our Jesus did on the cross for us.
That's so crazy that you think someone will not get to heaven over pants. 😂 what if a prostitute gets saved and 3 days later dies? Will not go to heaven because she didn't change her wardrobe fast enough? Wow...
@@alinap2707 GOD gives everyone PLENTY of time. God convicts everyone of all their unrighteousness. We all are suppose to be pure and holy, its a narrow path.
Milena I know what you're saying about your son. You want to set a godly example for what your son should look for in a wife. And also setting an example for what your daughter's should be like when they're grown. So no I wouldn't think it's too much to dress modestly and godly at home.
A mom of a young boy, I felt the need to dress modest even at home. I won’t change into pajamas until he’s in bed. I won’t wear pajamas around him. It starts young. What parents do in moderation, children do in excess.
You can wear wool in the winter to keep warm too! A lot of keeping cool and warm depends on the material. That's something I'm learning. Also, be careful who you are supporting with your dollar when it comes to shopping modestly. Find Christian companies. We aren’t the only ones going modest so try to look give your other Christ loving girlies some coin!
Being a PK doesn’t make you a Christian, we raise our children in “the way” but they still need to have a real experience of salvation that’s their own. Until then, God is the God of their parents, and they still need to get saved, and then Jesus becomes their God. Salvation is the experience that changes lives, mindsets and behaviors, not rituals or clothing, that’s a result.
There will be no such thing as the rapture, Jesus himself suffered we are called to be a Christ on this earth. Jesus himself said, he was hated first so don’t be surprised to be hated for following him. Additionally, as humans imperfect beings, life ain’t a walk in the park it has trials and suffering. Our destination is to be decided by our Lord himself he is the perfect judge we are called to follow his commandments, for those who love him do his will.
I so enjoyed hearing from you both! It’s really cool learning about your modesty journey. Also, that ultimately our relationship with Jesus should be at the forefront of our Modesty Journey. 🩵☀️
The “modesty” that Pentecostals refer to are unfortunately pinned as a certain specific thing ie: no pants. It stems from their interpretation of women not dressing in men’s clothing. And really has nothing to do with modesty. I fear that talking about modesty without confronting this misuse of scripture is hard to listen to. There is freedom in Christ and the religiosity of legalism where this stems from and I’ve seen the new wave of this legalism rewrapped as “doing it for Jesus”. Context in scripture is important. And I hope that everyone remembers that the Spirit convicts us from sin and coming from Pentecostal background, the dressing modestly outlook emphasizes more on our “bodies” than our eyes on Christ. I encourage you to have a Pastor to speak on this with scripture. Cultish has a few episodes on it too and talks about it also.
Yes this is so true! When she said something along the lines of not knowing where she will go when the rapture comes is totally missing the point. If you have faith and trust in JESUS then you don’t have to be scared on where you will be going when you die. A lot of these videos and podcasts seem to be missing the Gospel message on what Christ has done for us rather then what we can do for God. Milena if you are reading this, please remember to share the Gospel on here, is so important and vital for salvation❤️
@@brittanyrachelle23 yes exactly!
Unless you’ve been a part of UPCI you can’t assume our doctrine. Not all Pentecostals are the same for one. And two, it’s not based off of our bodies rather than Christ? It’s about dying to our flesh and to glorify Christ instead of ourselves. And modesty for us isn’t just about clothing either. It’s a heart issue first. I could wear a turtle neck and a maxi skirt and still be immodest if my heart isn’t modest and obedient to Christ. I’m not going to argue with a fellow sister in Christ on this- I just didn’t appreciate how you practically tore down a giant section of believers just because they don’t agree on certain pieces of scripture the way you do. Denominations mean nothing to me. If you love Jesus and it shows in how you treat others and live your life for him then that’s all that matters. I hate how us Christians call out theology more than we do sin. We can agree to disagree and still encourage each other to follow Christ without division.
@@MrsBriannaLee not tearing down any believers in Christ. Yes, UPCI is my background. And this belief comes from David Bernard’s teachings on the “holiness” doctrine. And for anyone who is curious, he has a book on this which explains further where this belief comes from.
As a fellow sister in the Lord I pray we can agree on “For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast.”
Ephesians 2:8-9
Let our words glorify God and God alone.
@@linagarciaa I’ve read his teachings but women have been wearing dresses or tunics with robes for literally hundreds upon hundreds of years. Since the beginning really. It’s based off of the history of civilization more than Bro. Bernard’s teachings. And many other Christians that don’t agree with apostolics wear dresses only as well. I do believe in by grace through faith. But faith without works is dead as well and I believe that if we really love Him, then we’ll keep his commandments. If you don’t feel convicted with pants and choose to wear them, that’s okay! That doesn’t make you any less of a believer than one that chooses to only wear dresses. It’s where your heart is and intentions are that the Lord ultimately weighs in the end. God bless💕
Hi, Milena. My mom has dressed modest since I could remember and I am now 28 years old. She wears shorter shorts around the house. Because of the modesty within her heart, I’ve never looked at her and thought, “you’re fake for wearing short shorts at home but not in public”. As Joanna said, I knew that my mom was being comfortable in her home and most importantly she wore modesty in her heart. So, I would say to be sensitive to continue being sensitive to the Holy Spirit when he says to change the length and fit of your home. ❤
As a traditional Catholic, this episode is amazing, thank you both!!! I used to wear skimpy bikinis, super short shorts, crop tops, etc. But when I started to take my faith more seriously, I had to get rid of 80% of my wardrobe. Having my husband there to tell me what he thought was acceptable or not was a huge help
Favorite episode thus far 🩷🩷 Absolutely warmed my heart. I am Pentecostal/apostolic and only wear skirts/dresses. I have a swim skirt from Amazon, I work out in skirts, and I love it!! My 2 year old has a swim skirt. This side of Christianity is not discussed enough. Modesty is more than a “rule” or a “standard” it’s literally about obedience and commitment to our God!! There is so much blessing in modesty. I feel as a new mom with lots of body changes and now thinking about what my 2 daughters are seeing me do, I am more modest than ever and constantly making sure clothes fit correctly and that my intentions are right when I am dressing. My pastors wife one said something that pierced my heart and still sticks with me, “you have to choose between feeling sexy or being godly”. This was a fantastic episode!! Thank you for sharing this with the world!!
Reformed bible believing christian here, and agreed except, feeling sexy with your husband in the privacy of your Marital bedroom is not sin. God created sensuality and sexuality to be appropriately expressed in the bedroom between a husband and wife. In any other context, it's sin. But, saying sexiness is sin and stopping there is legalistic and not biblical. That's how we get wives afraid of being intimate with their husband's because they think they're sinning
So relatable. I wore skinny jeans for attention seeking. I only wore dress for church or events. But after pregnancy my views with dresses changed and after pregnancy I had a sense that I don't want to dress provocative and slothy anymore. I felt the clothing I had no longer served me. I'm slowly upgrading and loving dresses and occasional longer shorts for warmer weather. Just following the convictions of the Holy Spirit.
This was a beautiful episode and a message any Christian should hear about the heart posture of modesty.
I grew up within the Mennonite/amish culture and the religion and conformity that is required felt restrictive even amid correct biblical teaching, comparison and judgment between Christians was very real.
After I stopped covering my head and started modestly wearing pants etc I felt so much freedom in my walk with Christ because I knew he didn’t judge me because my heart was still in the right place. That was a revelation for me. Maybe he will change me again someday but for now I see the benefits of not being forced to wear only skirts.
Yeah I totally understand where you’re coming from. It’s all about heart posture and intent. Maybe for you, the restrictions of clothing modesty was a stumbling block…like it made you feel like you had to strive for acceptance/perfection. And that’s why you feel free, now that you broadened your wardrobe.
I’m on the exact same journey…except I’m Pentecostal lol. We’ll see. But I wouldn’t be surprised if I felt called back to skirts only in three future
@@DeniSoars yes that was perfectly described! I love wearing dresses and skirts still, but I like the freedom of choosing. My cousin once said women who wear pants go to hell. I just can’t get over the religious and immodest posture that truly is to believe such a thing.
God bless your journey!
@@Mrs_Awili haha ya glad we’ve past from that mindset. Thank you so much! May He bless you too :)
I also dress “flattering” at home and cover up outside. And it’s awesome because you’re setting the example for your kids. “Be comfy at home & when you’re out you’re to be respected”
But respect and clothes are not things that go together. I dont deserve less respect than someone who is competely covered. Clothes IS NOT EQUAL to respect. Clothes are just clothes. If you like modest clothes, good for you. If you like sexy clothes good for you. Is just taste in clothes. It has nothing to do with respect. I can see someone completely covered and be an a$$hole, and that person wont have my respect. I can see a person with short shorts, and a bandeau being kind to someone or to animals and that person will have my respect 100%.
It’s so great to listen to you guys! As someone who was raised in a very strict and religious church, where I was forced to wear ONLY skirts and always had to braid my hair and was never properly explained why, it’s a very sensitive topic to me. I never thought that there are women who come from a very different background and go this modest way voluntarily not because they have to 🤗
I love to see that you dress modest because you love Jesus!
When I got saved I prayed that the lord would show and convicted me of the things that are not his heart. And I learned to live in the freedom of Christ, not to follow man made rules. He has convicted me of some things, that I don’t wear, as short skirts and shorts, but I enjoy the feeling to wear pants and jeans and not feel sinful because people around me believe that.
Thank you for talking about this very interesting and controversial topic! God bless you!💕
I have a similar story. The intention is good but I needed to completely step away from a religious connection to skirts and dresses before I felt free to really enjoy wearing them (as I do now!). I’m fine with pants and sleeveless tops don’t bother me but I’ve realized this NEEDS to be between each individual and the Lord in order for it to be something good and beautiful. I’ve had a lot of thoughts about this. It’s making me really careful with how I raise my daughters. Be blessed! 🤗
So great to hear testimony of her wanting an relationship with God and hearing his voice and acting on it and being faithful! Love it
THANK YOU! I’m 61 & the two of you facilitated new connections within me today! I’m understanding modesty now in a whole new way…. the way that matters! ✨Grateful! ❤️🙏🏽
Praise God! Thanks for watching 🤍
I felt how you ladies did for a long time about being more comfortable at home and I still do for to an extent but I have geared myself way more to even modesty in front of my children. Even though we are rising children in a Christian home, they are still going to walk their own walk with God and there is so much wickedness put before their eyes, maybe not in this moment but when they go into the world. We can’t perfectly protect them from worldly thoughts being put in their heads. Whats the scripture about the son who looked away from his father’s nakedness and he was righteous? I’m so grateful for your ladies. Only chatting here about my recent years changes. I am a mama and my eldest is 13, youngest 10. I stared modeling that modesty is for everyone, in front of everyone except our spouse who is to be in union as one. And it sets a defined line that also sets their body boundary firm to not be groomed for improper relationships with any family member that could be struggling with an unknown sin. I am only providing these thoughts because you ladies opened your hearts to ask about it. And in case these things I’m seeing for my own family, might be something you could use for yourself or someone else in your witnessing journey. God bless lovely souls.
The episode I needed to see! Modesty has been on my mind for the past few months. Thank you for sharing 😊
Thank you soooo much for this. I am on a modesty journey & this is sooo amazing
My boyfriend sent me a video of Joana about a year ago and I wasn’t offended at all I was like thank you because I knew I was still attached to my old style a little bit and I didn’t know how to let it go or feel beautiful so covered up dad to say! But you have helped both of you honestly so much with my confidence as a woman and being more feminine I’m so thankful !
"There is a difference between covered and modest" That was powerful and I wish Jona would have expnded on that!🕊🔥🌈💕
Are you going to have more podcast?
As a Muslim girly on her modesty journey I’m so glad we are finally talking about this topic. For years and years as Muslim women we were constantly told that modesty is oppressive and freedom equated to revealing as much skin as possible.
Assalamualaikum sister I’m also a Muslim watching but our community has so many good examples of fashionable modesty unfortunately Milena will not acknowledge the Muslim community, and when she does, she speak down upon us
The Bible says that Jesus-Christ is the son of God and that no one is saved if it’s not by Him. My ex brother-in-law was muslim and that is the main difference. So if you dress modest but don’t believe in Jesus-Christ as your savior (and that you are approuved by God only because of Jesus) it has nothing to do with christianity - many people in the world dress modest and don’t believe in God at all. For christians, it’s not supposee (according to the Bible) to be thing we do that save us but Jesus-Christ’s sacrifice who accomplished it all. That is why the topic that Milena and this guest are talking about is religious and that they are going further from the Gospel by focusing on dress vs pants etc the way they do… :(
I literally love following both of you guys!! You both are such an inspiration to me!! Every video you post gives me conviction and the confidence to keep on dressing modesty and really diving deep into Gods word!!
Milena! So encouraging! I love listening to different perspectives about modesty, Hod has used your platform to encourage me to take steps towards this. Overall it IS a heart posture change and it’s okay if it doesn’t look the same for everyone!
Thankful for the Holy Spirit at work, especially in the woman of God, what a blessing. Praise the Lord.
Wow this was the colab I loved to see!!! I am apostolic and having people like her helps me so much! Specially since I was raised catholic to becoming apostolic and changing so much of myself and learning true modesty.
MY FAVVVV DUOOOO!!! Joana the growth I’ve seen in you for so many years is amazing!! So Godly proud of you & Milena what TH-cam and instagram has witnessed is sooo beautiful! God is SOO good
Being modest goes way beyond just the clothes you wear. Are we being modest in the way we talk about people, prioritize our time, our language day to day? You only really talk about modesty in clothing but I don't really think that's as big of a deal as the other things that truly matter.
Clothes are huge. It tempts others. It makes others jealous and insecure. It's pride. It's vanity. It's being lustful and wanting to be lusted.
It's extravagance. It's having to have designer labels or what's on trend. It's covetousness and often the cause of debt (it was for me). So many issues.
But it is all wrapped up in not being humble. Not willing to be the least s3xy girl in the room. It's being willing to not have all eyes on you.
I used to dress vintage. I realize now that, although I wasn't immodest as in showing too much, I was immodest in that walking in looking like you stepped out of the 1940s was drawing attention to myself. Red lipstick 💄 was drawing attention to myself.
Modesty is a lot of things from the inside out. But the idea that is merely internal or merely external are both wrong. I'm probably free thinking here and not disagreeing with your other points, but still believe how we dress is important
I needed this episode!! I'm Orthodox and slowly working my way back to a healthy relationship with God. After leaving my ex who was abusive and manipulative, controlled what I wore, I went the opposite route and dressed promiscuously.
Reframing what modesty means to me in the process. I'm single and pray God would will me to have a husband, but my heart is telling me that the first step he wants me to take is to dress more modestly.
Funny. I’ve been on a clothing modesty journey, thanks to Milena speaking boldly. And lately my conviction has been my language… so it matches my modest appearance. Thank you for saying that part ❤ confirmation 🙏🏻
Your question about what to wear around your kids in the evening... I would throw a robe or a long sweatshirt dress over so that the kids don't see whats underneath but when they aren't up or around it's easy to take off for your alone time with hubby.
Love the bit on swearing, how God put that on your heart
That was a big part of my faith journey too. And controlling my tongue still is a challenge . Trying not to gossip now and talk about people behind their back. Trying not to complain, criticise, compare
Yessss I’ve been hoping for this collab haha
I have bought skirts with slits in and then sewn up the gap again with a sewing machine.
Also I had a dresses with a v neck that was too low cut for me so I sewed it a few inches higher too. There is another low cut one I have but I only wear it with a cardigan on top
I LOVE THIS! I felt convicted regarding modesty and stopped wearing pants as well. Just skirts and dresses. And almost always with leggings or biker shorts underneath ❤ God made tunics for Adam and Eve. I believe our "goods" should be covered and that doesn't take away from wearing cute/pretty things we like.
I personally have young boys and I don't feel comfortable wearing skimpy things around them. I don't think it's a great example of modesty for them to see. My husband loves literally anything I wear. I wear looser mid thigh shorts around the house and nursing tank tops with sweatshirt or tshirt over it. That's basically it.
Regarding the leggings material, ditch the polyester and get 98% cotton or merino wool :)
The collab I LOVED to see🙌🏽 I love both of y’all so much!
Omg what a treat! Joana is such a light
Hi Milena! I loved this conversation! My family and I are Pentecostal as well and growing up, as we got older my mom was always modest in and outside of the home! She wore either a long shirt over her pajama pants that covered her butt or wore a nightgown because I have two brothers and my mom felt convicted wearing something that may potentially cause them to stumble in any way as we all got older. I hope that helps, seek the Lord on it!!😊❤
My testimony with dress: Got saved( really re- dedicated my life to Christ) at nearly 17. I was raised in a very strict pentecostal church where the women wore long skirts/dresses. There was alot of condemnation surrounding clothing for women. I received Jesus as savior at elementary school age. Fast forward to my teen years, where I still prayed but didn't want church or rules anymore- I started sleeping around and got pregnant. I remember visiting a new church with my newborn in tow and sitting way at the back with my mom who kept bugging me to just go with her. I sat in front of some older ladies for several weeks, who I'd imagined would be judgemental of me. On the contrary they were so kind and always smiled at me, and wanted to talk to me. My unwed,teen mom situation was quite obvious- my short skirts and low tops were just how I dressed and my mom had stopped telling me to change them. These women seen past my dress and immoral lifestyle and showed love to me, the unconditional love from Jesus. My boyfriend (& baby's father) joined me at church a month later. He went up to pray and dedicate his life to God and I went up with him, in my mini skirt and low top, and it was when he kneeled down to pray and I did too to support him, that I felt that first twinge of conviction from the Lord, and felt I needed to pull the bottom of my skirt down and pull my top up to cover myself, not a shameful, "you're dirty", but something that would keep me doing it since then, which was God lovingly coming beside me to bring conviction not condemnation. I realized it was HIM who I wanted to please, and for love of God, not shame for the first time ever.Nobody needed to scold me because I had true heart change. 😊❤ Second edit here ;) cuz this is so much on my heart today to share. I continued to dress modestly thereafter, but out of love for my Savior and not shame. Just wanted to share that I dress modestly at home too because I didn't want my son seeing more of me than I felt convicted by God to be showing. I do save it for my husband and he enjoys me flaunting it then. God's blessings to all of you ladies and praying the Lord Himself will guide you in this and all topics
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How do you deal with dressing modestly while being in an environment where other women are not. I too used to dress immodest before I was saved for attention and now that Im more covered I find it difficult at times when Im with my husband and other women are dressed with very little clothing seeking that same attention. (Male gaze) For example, at the beach you will easily see several women in thong bikinis. Or at the gym youll see the tightest sports bras and booty shorts. I havent really heard anyone speak to this.
Yes! This makes me severely uncomfortable. Even though my husband is a Godly man and isn’t looking, he still sees them. It makes me feel a certain way inside that just kills my joy. I almost start to feel insecure about myself..sadly. Anyway I have been praying for relief over this subject and have faith that it will no longer affect my mental health anymore. 🙏
Same !!! I brought this to God and He really put on my heart to pray for those girls who are dressing for male gaze. As soon as I start praying for them I stop thinking about me or my husband and I just feel love for them! This has really helped me have an enjoyable time out with my family ❤
@@1SarahElizaagree this needs to be talked about more.
@@1SarahElizaexactly the same with me! :’(
Joaannnaaaaaa!!! My two favs…together! 🥰 So happy to see her on she’s definitely my go-to for modest fashion not to mention her HAIR! The most beautiful hair I’ve ever seen. And Milena, you are giving 1950s supermodel. ❤ This makes me happy! 😊😊😊
14:16 great Verse praise God 😊❤
The collab I needed 😍😍
AHHH love love love this!
I really have to sit and contemplate my modest journey because it was really influenced by those around me. I was in nondenominational Christian circles and they didn't dress too different from the world except not wearing stuff that showed obvious booty or boobs. The fashion was more androgynous athletic or frumy grunge. I never felt too bad about what I wore. I've always dressed feminine, but I've had a desire to be even more feminine, and it's watching this channel and others, I've been inspired to wear mostly more dresses and skirts in my daily wardrobe.
Interesting to see the other comments about growing up in strict modesty. That was not my cas. My mom put me and my sisters in booty shorts and tube tops as little girls. There was rarely any modesty except for at church when we went a few times a year. My fashion only slightly changed when I got saved. My sister converted to Islam and her fashiom flipped 180, she dresses similar to the Amish now. What I've noticed is those who grew up immodest and become "religious" can take in the conviction of being modest and voluntarily submit to God's desire for a covered woman because we know what the other side yields in our life and we knew the sin motivation we had in our hearts prior.
How did your sister convert to Islam?
@RCGWho At the time, I was trying to get her to come to college ministry with me. She just started the same college I had been attending. She was on a religious exploration, she tried a bunch of different stuff, went to this cult for a few weeks, then joined a different group of immigrant students, they told all these false things about Jesus, and she's been Islamic ever since. We had a bad falling out about cuz I was newly saved and was trying to tell her Allah was of Satan, I repeated words my small group leader had told me, and gave her Christian books which she just returned back. My sister was pretty angry, and I think it affected our relationship for years. Eventually, things cooled off. I spent that time curious about other religions and did self-study on all the different faiths, which built up in me the Christian vigor to know YHWH the God of the bible is one true and living God.
Currently, my sister is going through a shift in her ideology, particularly politics, because of the lies and mass manipulation from the government these past 4 years and how that stuff directly impacted her. She told me one day that the Christians get a lot of stuff right in regards to family, life, etc. She's now very prolife and pro family. Stuff, she never was even in Islam. She still needs prayer, but she is seeing some goodness in Christians when she hadn't before. And that could be her roots calling back to her because we did grow up going to church sometimes as children. That foundation, though weak, is still there.
@@TwiFiveGirls101 So good to hear the progress she's making. Thanks for sharing.
When God asked me to dress modest her account was the first one that I found on Instagram, and I'm so glad I did. Now I'm go to her Bible study. It's super cool to see how she shows her personality and modesty, and she looks beautiful doing it. To God be the glory!
So awesome!!
Where is milenas dress from
I have been changing to become more modest. It's not a set of clothing rules- it's a heart posture. Where are you attempting to stand out or be Sexy? Do you want to seem better or make people be jealous? For me, my conviction was around being flashy and fashionable. I enjoyed being the best dressed in any space. I owned nearly 100 pairs of heels. I was also trying to showcase my athletic physique, which I did by highlighting my waist. So i felt convicted to stop wearing skin tight clothes, even if they covered me, and I dress in a more classic and plain way. I don't feel convicted about my Leggings because it's purely a comfort thing and I'm not wearing them for attention. I do feel convicted about showing any hint of cleavage because OTHER people seem to pay attention to it. You have to search your heart and pray about this.
The issue with leggings is the painted on effect. Most people looking to be modest wear long shirts over them.
Soooooo excited for this episode!!!❤❤❤❤
I've always preferred wearing dresses, but before I got saved I did wear crop tops and shorts, but since I got saved I just naturally dress more modest. recently I've felt like swimming in a swimdress rather than a bikini. I think it's different for everyone. I used to wear skinny jeans, but I don't really wear them anymore. I do wear leggins, but I feel more comfortable wearing a dress or skirt over them.
So crazy I just followed Joana today on ig & now I see this video so cool! Milena was deff a huge inspiration for me in my modesty journey. Im still learning and changing things but truly agree that the closer you get to God he truly transforms you! ✨
Yes, amen!
What does wearing a skirt or a dress have anything to do with Christianity?
I love that she’s your Emily and you’ve been mine lol. I very much appreciate all of the modesty content. It’s become a conviction for me this year for sure
This is true for me too! Milena has been my Emily!
see i use to feel like i should only wear skirts and now i dont mind pants
Two of my favorite people on one episode!!🩷🥳
ever since going to an all girls boarding school for two years I stopped wearing underwire bras. back when I was in a mixed class and outside of school I wanted to attract guys attention when wearing bras. I watched a video by jasmyne theodora in which she said it's better not to wear underwire bras. I sometimes wear those trainer bras for certain dresses or shirts, but I hardly ever wear normal bras anymore.
I am not religious at all but I am really curious, why are pants not modest? i feel like pants can be really baggy for example and dresses and skirts can be really body hugging. Can someone explain pls?
From everything I’ve seen it seems like a lot of Christians have different terms of what’s “modest”. So it’s going depend on different peoples perspectives because as you stated skirts and dresses can be really body hugging.
There are a couple versus in the Bible about women not wearing what a man would wear. But again fashion has changed so much over time and what women wore back in the time different parts of the Bible were written was EXTREMELY different to what women wear now. (Head coverings for one example)
Some people feel convicted to wear dresses only while others feel that length and fit is more important than dresses only.
I personally wear pants still and they are no where near anything my husband would ever wear nor are they revealing and I’m not dressing to show anything off. So I personally feel like pants can be modest.
Sorry that was a long answer, but honestly you’ll find a lot of different answers from different perspectives on what’s modest and what’s not.
And to add, anything that causes either sex to list after you is causing them to commit adultery in their heart. We should do our best to not cause a brother or sister to stumble. If Jesus was looking at your outfit, would he admire how beautiful you look, or be saddened at how you dress
pants are not inherently immodest! modesty is much more of a heart issue than it is a physical condition! Modesty should be maintained as a form of worship/conviction/submission!! at around the 20 min mark they share the scripture james 4:17 “so whoever knows the right thing to do and fails to do it, for him it is sin” so if that isn’t something that you are being asked to abide in by your shepherd or spouse or the Lord it’s not immodest:) let me know if that helps:)
Muslim women get lots of hate in the West for wearing modest clothing. France freaking bans modest swimming fits. Very liberal man!
Think about leggings with no baggy shirt to cover. Think about the perfect pair of Levi's 501s on a perfect rear. That's super tempting to a man.
You're right, body con dresses are nope.
great episode i’m still on my modesty journey inside and out it definitely isn’t an overnight thing
This is something that I struggle with. I am starting to dress more modestly in the weekends when I'm out and about. However my day job is in a nursery with babies. My dresses aren't practically in the setting. I wear leggings and long baggy shirts. It's something that I think about a lot and I'm not sure what else I would wear.
Can we get a link for your dress Milena
I’m Christian Apostolic ❤ and I have small children I wear normal pjs at home but when I step out only dresses and skirts nothing tight ( for me )
I love this!! ❤
if you can show shoulders or upper chest, i really like those dresses that wrap around the chest, then immediately flow off so you cant see the body shape. its a small elastic band on top, then pretty much a flowy sheet. that with a light cardigan is what i do for heat. i think leaving the arm pits open with a cover on really helps. plus bring a victorian fan! talk about sexy, those things are iconic
Links would be great! I couldn't hear what the crop top company was. You guys kind of talked at the same time. Subtitles didn't catch it either 🙃
It’s called Halftee! 😊
I’ve been dressing modest for years now. my kids were 4 years old when I started. I wore jeans or whatever in my house, but then God convicted me, that if I am doing this for others to see me then it wasn’t for him. If modesty is how God ask me to dress then I wanted it to be in my home as well and didn’t like feeling like a hypocrite in teaching my kids, which should be our most important people we minister to. So from that day on I woke up and dressed modest. Saved shorts or short gowns for my bedroom only. For hubby to see. And now my girls are young adults still in our home and dress modest. PTL 🙌🏻
Also I love zipper robes (Amazon)to go over immodest sleep wear
Love her insta!! Such cute style
Love this
Milena has help me in my modesty journey. It all goes into domino effect.
It is very important to hear and listen as to why God called them to modesty. Clothing was their god and idol. Their focused were to attract others with what they were wearing. The same way can be with girls that wear skirts and dresses to attract a certain demographic of men that find that more attracting then pants. Your figure still shows in dresses and skirts. Born and raised pentecostal all my life and legalism and being thought to wear skirts just to show that you were “christian” or “holly” really bothers me to compare modesty to just skirts and pants. It’s more then that. It all lays in the heart. Christianity is more than clothing. You can be very immodest wearing skirts and dresses as well. Very tired of hearing modesty to just skirts and dresses and defining that as holly. This is all personal conviction. And you both were starting to feel convicted because of the way you we’re both dressing, one to provoke and the other one just going with the flow of other influencers and what was popular and as what the world set out as the “standard” of fashion. We can all shine and show God’s love through our actions, not just our clothes. As she said, whats the point if you are still not loving your neighbor. Love this conversation though. And love how you both are being obedient to the Lord. 💜💜
What I do is before I leave my house I ask the holly spirit if what Im wearing its ok and don’t feel that tug in my heart that says change, I go about my day. Not focusing it all on my clothes. And Pray that my actions, a smile or a God bless you to someone can change their day. ❤❤
Let’s remember, your clothes wont send you to hell, your disobedience to what the holly spirit is trying to change in you will. That is when it becomes a sin.
I did the same when I got saved at 19 yrs old
Even the Bride and the Harlot are identified by what they’re wearing.
We are to be holy because He is holy. 💜
Theres nothing righteous about your butt showing from wearing pants, idk why women try not to offend other women for “not feeling convicted to stop dressing sexy”
the fact of the matter is that you can have a filthy heart and still dress Holy
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But you cannottttttttt have a pure heart if you dress pants that show the full shape of your butt!
Ive met such lovely sisters in Christ but they WILL NOT GIVE UP their lustful clothing even if they’re married, its a spiritual stronghold & its is disobedience to God!! They will find out on judgement day.
I really implore you to check your heart. Stating that our sisters in Christ will “find out on Judgement day” when it comes to wearing pants is really disappointing. Our Father is righteous and just, but He is also gracious and loving. Pants vs skirts is NOT a salvation issue. Acting as if we can retain our salvation by our dress completely diminishes everything our Jesus did on the cross for us.
That's so crazy that you think someone will not get to heaven over pants. 😂 what if a prostitute gets saved and 3 days later dies? Will not go to heaven because she didn't change her wardrobe fast enough? Wow...
@@baileycarter1335 like i said, wait and find out.
@@alinap2707 GOD gives everyone PLENTY of time. God convicts everyone of all their unrighteousness. We all are suppose to be pure and holy, its a narrow path.
@@saintamerican6105 what do you mean by plenty? Do you say it's not possible for someone to die right after surrendering life to Jesus?
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Milena I know what you're saying about your son. You want to set a godly example for what your son should look for in a wife. And also setting an example for what your daughter's should be like when they're grown. So no I wouldn't think it's too much to dress modestly and godly at home.
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milena your dress looks so cute and pretty hair so pretty and cute 😊❤
you look like a baby princess i love it 😊❤❤
praise God 😊❤❤❤
and pretty smile 😊❤❤
A mom of a young boy, I felt the need to dress modest even at home. I won’t change into pajamas until he’s in bed.
I won’t wear pajamas around him.
It starts young. What parents do in moderation, children do in excess.
You can wear wool in the winter to keep warm too! A lot of keeping cool and warm depends on the material. That's something I'm learning.
Also, be careful who you are supporting with your dollar when it comes to shopping modestly. Find Christian companies. We aren’t the only ones going modest so try to look give your other Christ loving girlies some coin!
love her
Being a PK doesn’t make you a Christian, we raise our children in “the way” but they still need to have a real experience of salvation that’s their own. Until then, God is the God of their parents, and they still need to get saved, and then Jesus becomes their God. Salvation is the experience that changes lives, mindsets and behaviors, not rituals or clothing, that’s a result.
Wait… I want to be her friend!!! 🩷
There will be no such thing as the rapture, Jesus himself suffered we are called to be a Christ on this earth. Jesus himself said, he was hated first so don’t be surprised to be hated for following him. Additionally, as humans imperfect beings, life ain’t a walk in the park it has trials and suffering. Our destination is to be decided by our Lord himself he is the perfect judge we are called to follow his commandments, for those who love him do his will.
Religion is just their outfits for them 😂
Why, because you think they don't make many videos about so many different aspects
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Ha!! Jesus pulled your wig off
Muslims are great example . They give me a lot of ideas
I so enjoyed hearing from you both! It’s really cool learning about your modesty journey. Also, that ultimately our relationship with Jesus should be at the forefront of our Modesty Journey. 🩵☀️
Love this! 🫶 Many will miss the message and will take it as legalism vs conviction.
great episode i’m still on my modesty journey inside and out it definitely isn’t an overnight thing for me