Yeah totally, Tywin's children represent his aspects very well, but they are even exaggerated versions of each aspects, as in, his children are better at each thing than he was. Cercei - Ruthlessness (e.g. Castamere) and Ruling power and Duty Jaime - Battle courage Tyrion - Political cunning
Only these many comments and these many subs!? Criminal! You’re doing great work here, I hope you will receive more exposure. The dynamic between Tyrion and Tywin, their duality and synthesis were extremely impactful to me as I read the books. From the moment Tyrion was introduced I felt a connection to his character and that only grew deeper as I learned more.
WOW! Thank you, A.J... such a lovely compliment. ☺️ Totally agree with you about their relationship; there is a duality AND synthesis that creates such friction between them ~ Love the depth & flaws of these characters. Amazing that you felt a connection with Tyrion’s character from his introduction, as well. Xx
@@susannalouise5502 Their dynamic is so resounding to me because I believe I see parts of myself in both characters, and therefore I see their outward struggle as a personification of my own inner conflicts. George really knows how to make his readers connect to his wide array of characters. Btw, you are very welcome, it is deserved! I’m looking forward to digging into your other content as well, particularly your analyses of Anakin and Frodo. ♥️
@@a.j.carter2294 Very true! George captures the qualities, flaws & contradictions of people so well. Their outward struggle reflecting your own inner conflict is beautifully put - is it cathartic for you to read and watch their dynamic? I know I certainly find a release when personal experiences are physicalised. Thank you - I hope you enjoy Anakin & Frodo! xx
@@susannalouise5502 I’m sure I will enjoy them thoroughly, this video sets a great precedent! Oh yes, very cathartic - practically therapeutic. See, I am able to see myself in Tywin with his fixation on personal and family legacy, his disgust towards weakness and with his hypocrisy regarding his more base desires; and I saw myself in Tyrion the very first time he was introduced, him with his mismatched eyes and twisted body (I was disabled after an operation done on me as a child) his bookish and witty nature, being all around underestimated by his peers and turning toward creature comforts to cope with his trauma. When I see the father and son metaphorically cross swords, I see my own dual nature in conflict, two halves of myself competing for dominance. Seeing Tyrion slay his father, renounce his family and watching his gradual self improvement has stuck with me since I read the words and it was very helpful in my own self improvement journey. I cannot wait to see what George has in store for Tyrion in the next books! (If they are ever released...)
@@a.j.carter2294 Yes, fingers crossed the books are released & we see the completion of George's vision. Totally understand the therapeutic aspect of connecting with fictional characters, especially flawed ones! You are very astute in saying that the conflict of Tyrion & Tywin vying for dominance captures a psychological conflict that we all experience. Love that others feel such catharsis from identifying with morally ambiguous characters, thank you! x
@@susannalouise5502 My father made our family look week, we wouldn't realize he was mocked and just laugh about it. Then he divorced our my mother and my fiance left me. So all I had in my life was my brother and my dumb and weak father. Since this happened I have barely laughed or smiled or made a joke myself. I would call out people how moronic they were and if someone made a joke about me I would stare at them until they were uncomfortable and left the room or even a "party". Behind my back people were talking about me how cold I got and made jokes I must be a robot or something. All I got was efficient and calculating. No one will ever think our family is weak or only got failed people in it.
@@bloodygoat6941 Thank you for sharing how you identify with Tywin and I am sorry about your traumatic experiences; it is interesting to hear that you were able to connect to him in such a profound way. Must have been very striking for you when you first encountered Tywin in the GoT series.
@@susannalouise5502 I read the books before and already knew him. I always thought his way dealing with trauma was better then Tyrion or Robert who were just drunks.
@@bloodygoat6941 I was thinking this same thing. My dad is smart but wayyy too nice and passive making our family look weak and vulnerable. I am now the enforcer and have been big on long term legacy in the family working myself to the bone to be successful. This parallel is crazy when you think about it.
Tyrion is smart to not inherit his father's enemies. Tywin's final lesson was to seek your own justice. Relying on courts based primarily on faith and groupthink is not a sound bet versus reliance on power and bribery; the Game is not in your favor here, Tyrion acknowledges this by aligning his future goals with the goals of his father's enemies. Once enemies; they are now key allies and Game winners according the most recent season, Tywin died happy albeit on the shitter. The Lannister legacy will continue; with Players on opposing sides, lets hope Tyrion's seed Game is as strong as his influence Game.
I'd love if you could do a video on Ruben from the sound of metal or maybe even the trope of characters losing things central to their identity like Jaime Lannister but anyway great vid and you've gained a sub 🤙🏽
Thank you, Jiggerz - really appreciate that! I LOVE that idea, yes... exploring characters that lose things central to their identity; the Jaime vid is a'coming! Yes, really want to watch 'Sound of Metal' & do a psychological analysis of Ruben, for sure! Thank you so much for the recommendation! x
Why you look at his character, as a result of traumas? Why you frame your thinking and examination around the sole criteria “result of traumas”. How about inner guide and talent that pushes him towards his development. I understand and respect the effort and certainly has its place in the examination. Human beings and their characters are not only “Here is the trauma, and here is why your are that”. Frame it that way you are looking for traumas to fit the final characteristics of personality. So you see the result and try to fit what traumas makes sense for that result. But if the result involves more things than trauma, then that is very simplistic way to look, examine or judge the character. Share what you think on that if you’d read it.
Interesting point, Aleksander - I understand how it seems that I jump to a conclusion and crowbar in the trauma. However, the way I do an analysis is I look for significant turning points in a character's life and go from there. In Tywin's case, I felt the trauma of seeing his father's failure/reputation humiliation and losing his wife were important. Agree with you that his talent and inner guide are a part of his success. What spurns this discipline is his goal of reforming his house and Lannister legacy; I feel that is at the heart of all his actions and decisions. I'd really like to know your thoughts - what do you think shapes his actions?
Cercie wasnt intelligent. The only reason she made it so far wasbecause of her titles and because she had no moral limits she would do anything to win she would even kill jaime or her children if needed
Very interesting point. She was born into immense privilege & has no compunction about doing heinous things. She is highly manipulative, though ‘not as clever as she thinks’ (Tywin). I feel she is shrewd, albeit flawed. She killed Robert & masked it as a drunken accident. She thwarted Ned Stark, destroyed the Faith Militant & takes out Margaery. She is short~sighted, but also manipulative operator; not the best, but she is remorseless, self~interested & feels superior.
@@susannalouise5502 Imagine if tyrion had no moral compass , his fathers support and a goal he would be Unstoppable thats why I think intelligence alone is not enough. But if we are only considering intelligence then Tyrion might be smarter than little finger
@@susannalouise5502 and loved your video but I think there was another reason why tywin hated tyrion and thats because tyrion reminds tywin of himself and he hates himself and feels him responsible for his wifes death so naturally he would blame tyrion and is indirectly punishing himself. I also think he truely did love his wife and would love to see how he was before her death. What do you think?
@Gr8sc0tt I read the book till tyrions farewell to jon snow and till then he had a moral compass after that I cant say anything about the books but can you explain how he doesnt have one after this?
@@jumperkables9372 What an idea - never considered that before. Would be such a cathartic & jarring experience; very much game for it though. Challenge accepted, Jumperkables. Thank you! x
My left ear loved this analysis, and upvoted. My right ear sat for 22 minutes of silent talking head, and downvoted. They cancelled each other out, sorry.
My left ear is *very* informed.
Yeah totally, Tywin's children represent his aspects very well, but they are even exaggerated versions of each aspects, as in, his children are better at each thing than he was.
Cercei - Ruthlessness (e.g. Castamere) and Ruling power and Duty
Jaime - Battle courage
Tyrion - Political cunning
Love that point. Agree with you completely ~ they are all amplified parts of Tywin. Great breakdown.
Only these many comments and these many subs!? Criminal! You’re doing great work here, I hope you will receive more exposure. The dynamic between Tyrion and Tywin, their duality and synthesis were extremely impactful to me as I read the books. From the moment Tyrion was introduced I felt a connection to his character and that only grew deeper as I learned more.
WOW! Thank you, A.J... such a lovely compliment. ☺️ Totally agree with you about their relationship; there is a duality AND synthesis that creates such friction between them ~ Love the depth & flaws of these characters. Amazing that you felt a connection with Tyrion’s character from his introduction, as well. Xx
@@susannalouise5502 Their dynamic is so resounding to me because I believe I see parts of myself in both characters, and therefore I see their outward struggle as a personification of my own inner conflicts. George really knows how to make his readers connect to his wide array of characters. Btw, you are very welcome, it is deserved! I’m looking forward to digging into your other content as well, particularly your analyses of Anakin and Frodo. ♥️
@@a.j.carter2294 Very true! George captures the qualities, flaws & contradictions of people so well. Their outward struggle reflecting your own inner conflict is beautifully put - is it cathartic for you to read and watch their dynamic? I know I certainly find a release when personal experiences are physicalised. Thank you - I hope you enjoy Anakin & Frodo! xx
@@susannalouise5502 I’m sure I will enjoy them thoroughly, this video sets a great precedent! Oh yes, very cathartic - practically therapeutic. See, I am able to see myself in Tywin with his fixation on personal and family legacy, his disgust towards weakness and with his hypocrisy regarding his more base desires; and I saw myself in Tyrion the very first time he was introduced, him with his mismatched eyes and twisted body (I was disabled after an operation done on me as a child) his bookish and witty nature, being all around underestimated by his peers and turning toward creature comforts to cope with his trauma. When I see the father and son metaphorically cross swords, I see my own dual nature in conflict, two halves of myself competing for dominance. Seeing Tyrion slay his father, renounce his family and watching his gradual self improvement has stuck with me since I read the words and it was very helpful in my own self improvement journey. I cannot wait to see what George has in store for Tyrion in the next books! (If they are ever released...)
@@a.j.carter2294 Yes, fingers crossed the books are released & we see the completion of George's vision. Totally understand the therapeutic aspect of connecting with fictional characters, especially flawed ones! You are very astute in saying that the conflict of Tyrion & Tywin vying for dominance captures a psychological conflict that we all experience. Love that others feel such catharsis from identifying with morally ambiguous characters, thank you! x
Love Tywin so much. I have basically the same character as him. Because of trauma and shit. My dad did pretty much the same with our family.
Yah, love his character too; he is so complicated. Wow, that’s cool... how do you identify with him? X
@@susannalouise5502 My father made our family look week, we wouldn't realize he was mocked and just laugh about it. Then he divorced our my mother and my fiance left me. So all I had in my life was my brother and my dumb and weak father. Since this happened I have barely laughed or smiled or made a joke myself. I would call out people how moronic they were and if someone made a joke about me I would stare at them until they were uncomfortable and left the room or even a "party". Behind my back people were talking about me how cold I got and made jokes I must be a robot or something. All I got was efficient and calculating. No one will ever think our family is weak or only got failed people in it.
@@bloodygoat6941 Thank you for sharing how you identify with Tywin and I am sorry about your traumatic experiences; it is interesting to hear that you were able to connect to him in such a profound way. Must have been very striking for you when you first encountered Tywin in the GoT series.
@@susannalouise5502 I read the books before and already knew him. I always thought his way dealing with trauma was better then Tyrion or Robert who were just drunks.
@@bloodygoat6941 I was thinking this same thing. My dad is smart but wayyy too nice and passive making our family look weak and vulnerable. I am now the enforcer and have been big on long term legacy in the family working myself to the bone to be successful. This parallel is crazy when you think about it.
Really hope you will get more subscribers!
I'd love to watch this video but the audio is in mono; only from one side. Please fix this.
Fun vid great job, love psychological assessment of characters!
Thank you, Brogue ~ so appreciate that! Tywin is a very striking & complicated character, for sure. X
Really interesting, thanks Susanna.
Thank you, Callum! x
Just a heads up, while trying to listen to this it's only sounding in my left ear. Maybe check the audio quality for future videos. Thank you
Tyrion and Tywin Lannister were the most intelligent in series
sad that they hate each other
Tyrion is smart to not inherit his father's enemies.
Tywin's final lesson was to seek your own justice.
Relying on courts based primarily on faith and groupthink is not a sound bet versus reliance on power and bribery; the Game is not in your favor here, Tyrion acknowledges this by aligning his future goals with the goals of his father's enemies.
Once enemies; they are now key allies and Game winners according the most recent season, Tywin died happy albeit on the shitter.
The Lannister legacy will continue; with Players on opposing sides, lets hope Tyrion's seed Game is as strong as his influence Game.
I'd love if you could do a video on Ruben from the sound of metal or maybe even the trope of characters losing things central to their identity like Jaime Lannister but anyway great vid and you've gained a sub 🤙🏽
Thank you, Jiggerz - really appreciate that! I LOVE that idea, yes... exploring characters that lose things central to their identity; the Jaime vid is a'coming! Yes, really want to watch 'Sound of Metal' & do a psychological analysis of Ruben, for sure! Thank you so much for the recommendation! x
Susanna, there is no sound in this video. I am keen to hear your views. Many thanks!
did you try testing your system volume
@@drippinwet774 Yes, I did. Just checked and it works just fine, thank you. Most like it was something I did or missed.
Why you look at his character, as a result of traumas? Why you frame your thinking and examination around the sole criteria “result of traumas”. How about inner guide and talent that pushes him towards his development.
I understand and respect the effort and certainly has its place in the examination.
Human beings and their characters are not only “Here is the trauma, and here is why your are that”. Frame it that way you are looking for traumas to fit the final characteristics of personality. So you see the result and try to fit what traumas makes sense for that result.
But if the result involves more things than trauma, then that is very simplistic way to look, examine or judge the character.
Share what you think on that if you’d read it.
Interesting point, Aleksander - I understand how it seems that I jump to a conclusion and crowbar in the trauma. However, the way I do an analysis is I look for significant turning points in a character's life and go from there. In Tywin's case, I felt the trauma of seeing his father's failure/reputation humiliation and losing his wife were important.
Agree with you that his talent and inner guide are a part of his success. What spurns this discipline is his goal of reforming his house and Lannister legacy; I feel that is at the heart of all his actions and decisions.
I'd really like to know your thoughts - what do you think shapes his actions?
Such beautiful eyes
Aaaww ~ thank you. ‘All the better to see you with, my dear!’
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really good look at my favorite character although around 18:00 i started to fear that you were going to break into Karma Chameleon
Ahaha! Love this - 'I'm a man without conviction'... Thank you, Papa John. X
No auto just in one ear bus
Cercie wasnt intelligent. The only reason she made it so far wasbecause of her titles and because she had no moral limits she would do anything to win she would even kill jaime or her children if needed
Very interesting point. She was born into immense privilege & has no compunction about doing heinous things.
She is highly manipulative, though ‘not as clever as she thinks’ (Tywin). I feel she is shrewd, albeit flawed.
She killed Robert & masked it as a drunken accident.
She thwarted Ned Stark, destroyed the Faith Militant & takes out Margaery.
She is short~sighted, but also manipulative operator; not the best, but she is remorseless, self~interested & feels superior.
@@susannalouise5502 Imagine if tyrion had no moral compass , his fathers support and a goal he would be Unstoppable thats why I think intelligence alone is not enough. But if we are only considering intelligence then Tyrion might be smarter than little finger
@@susannalouise5502 and loved your video but I think there was another reason why tywin hated tyrion and thats because tyrion reminds tywin of himself and he hates himself and feels him responsible for his wifes death so naturally he would blame tyrion and is indirectly punishing himself. I also think he truely did love his wife and would love to see how he was before her death. What do you think?
@Gr8sc0tt I read the book till tyrions farewell to jon snow and till then he had a moral compass after that I cant say anything about the books but can you explain how he doesnt have one after this?
Good concept for videos. Great niche in TH-cam. If you like doing this then keep going
Oh, thank you! What a generous comment; absolutely, more videos to come! Any suggestions on characters? X
@@susannalouise5502 we don't have lots to go on, but maybe Sandor Clegane. Looking forward to seeing more
Perhaps at some point in the future, it might be cathartic for you to do the psychology of yourself, if you're inclined to do so
@@jumperkables9372 Absolutely - he has an interesting duality in his personality. Love that idea, thank you! x
@@jumperkables9372 What an idea - never considered that before. Would be such a cathartic & jarring experience; very much game for it though. Challenge accepted, Jumperkables. Thank you! x
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Aha - You have good taste! X
Chronofuse First you have to date her in order to know if she is the right person for you!
My left ear loved this analysis, and upvoted. My right ear sat for 22 minutes of silent talking head, and downvoted. They cancelled each other out, sorry.