Im selling my leica q2 to get the a7cR, the size is perfect, especially with a 35mm pancake lens attached. This will be a huge selling camera. It's what we've been waiting for.
Trying to decide wether to get this or the A7r IV for my trip to Japan in May. I’ll be pairing either one with a gm 2.8 24-70mm and a Zeiss Batis 85mm. My biggest point of contention for the A7cr is how it performs video and photo wise compared to the A7r IV. In any one can give advice or suggestions please let me know. Coming from film to Digital is such a headache with all this new tech
I personally love the philosophy of recent compact full frame cameras. Such as Nikon Zf, Canon EOS RP (i had for over 2 years and loved it), the R8, so what the RP should have been from the beginning, the Sony ZV-1E, A7CR or A7C II depending on the needs,.... Good times are coming for me as soon those bodies are outdated and affordable for me 2nd hand.
Always nice to see you guys. The beginning of the video seemed a bit random and edit doesnt seems as smooth as usual, random pauses, voice over while talking.
Wow first time I've been this early to a Kai Video - Love the content! If Sony have not mentioned the price, then its safe to assume it will be greatly overpriced for the amount of features the camera comes with
Happy to see the combination with the 40mm G lens, my favourite focal length. I would be a nice alternative to my A7R III. The size is perfect for my long hikes in the mountains, I also crop and print sometimes big. But not really happy with the backscreen and the EVF.
I know you're joking but it's a little annoying for you to constantly refer to this (and the a7cii) as an entry level camera for beginners, like at 6:56 - this is literally a $3000 camera. A7cii is still $2200. People looking at these cameras want full frame in a compact package instead of needing to lug around a big and heavy regular sized model for the same quality. If someone wants a full frame camera for cheap they'd just get an older model like an a7iii.
The design is a consistent continuation from Sony's APS-C a6x00 line, which in turn continued the a5x00 line. Fuji looks old-fashioned in comparison, as if made by old men for old men 😉
@@tubularificationed its really not the a6000 , its from the nex line . Your comment on the fuji design undermines the fact that taste differs and unlike your comment which is plainly wrong - is just ignorant.
The new A7C remind me actually much of today's Leicas. Both speak the same design language. Very handsome. Whereas most Fuji, or the new "retro" Nikons, or Pentax are just cameras for old men, who are nostalgically looking back to the era of their younger days, when their photographic juices were still flowing 😉 Nothing wrong with such a marketing strategy, there's lots of money to pull from. Old men are valuable customers, because often they have more money saved, than they have remaining active / agile years left to spend that. That's why old men often buy the most expensive stuff. No surprise that Fuji and Nikon attempt to harvest that market segment. I like though that Leica doesn't fall for this cheesy retro opportunism. Neither does Sony.
@@tubularificationed That's all just nonsense conjecture. Totally unsupported by reality in any way. Honestly, I'd be surprised if you know a single photographer. Your info is just so spectacularly far off base it can't come from any sort of first hand experience. So, yeah. I'm out.
Wait for A7cr ii. They will add joystick, 8000 speed, and may be one more custom button... They intentionally didn't include these functions now to make sale next time.
“Improved color science” has nothing whatsoever to do with the display. It’s about how the scene colors are interpreted, recorded, and rendered to the image file. Accuracy is the foundation of it, but the next stage goes beyond that. Any color scientist will tell you that if you show a person the same photo with “accurate” colors versus “pleasing” colors, people pick what’s more pleasing almost every time. It’s like how choosing color film always has been: You choose the film that most closely matches how you *prefer* the colors to be rendered. Maybe a scientist needs color that is absolutely colorimetrically correct but aesthetically very dry, but the rest of us want colors that render landscapes, people, and sunsets in a way that makes us go “wow…yes”. Another way people think of better “color science” is that it takes you a lot less time to edit it to get the colors you want, because the colors look so much better right out of the camera. With bad color, you waste more time fighting with the image on your computer to make the colors look the way you want.
but only for slow photography (static stills), such as landscape. Not good for people photography or anything else which requires at least some amount of agility or spontaneity.
Your Canon T1i calendar photo was only slow photography (static stills), such as landscape. It wasn't for people or anything else which requires at least some amount of agility or spontaneity 😉
208g difference is not nothing. I can tell you it is massive. I have an old a7c 509g and added a smallrig cage of 210g, then now i feel the a7c too heavy despite a top notch handle grip. You have a grip identical to a full body camera. But i loose the compactness and the small weight. Finally i removed it as i have a gimbal and don’t want to add the weight on the gimbal. It is already too heavy. I am fine with the a7c grip, small evf, small media file, smaller sensor with less noise at high iso, smaller 1080p60 and 120 no crop, 4k24 no crop. With upscaling 1080p is rendered like 4k. It is very good 1080. The result would not be far better with the latest cameras.
Save the money and get a lens or sell and get the Leica q2 used . Watch the Tony and Chelsea review - there’s no Sony lens that is compact and can make use of those 60megapixels.
The design is a consistent continuation from Sony's APS-C a6x00 line, which in turn continued the a5x00 line. Fuji looks old-fashioned in comparison, as if made by old men for old men 😉
The secret trick is, to first swivel the screen out, and then tilt it to your liking 🙂 Especially for tripod usage, it makes NO difference if it is with or without prior swiveling. Just requires an additional 0.5 seconds.
@@tubularificationed that is the difference between nailing the shot and having nothing when street shooting with the A1 & 50GM. That half second to setup and take down delays the ability to get in the action at the precise moment and you will continue to lose chances by having a slower screen mechanism
Yawn… how about these companies start working on smaller lenses with wide apertures? The cameras keep getting smaller yet the lenses are 3 to 5 times bigger than the cameras lol
Lenses unfortunately rely on optical design that doesnt really like to be miniaturized. Anything wide will be large and anything long will also be large. 35 to around 60 can and might have some room for space improvements - but not much.
For a compact full frame, those cameras still chonky AF. If only that pricing was closer to the R8, I’d consider jumping on the Sony bandwagon but nope. Too steep. Canon FTW! 😂
A7cR is a joke because if you are a professional get the A7R5 because it's an investment. And if you are a hobbyist why the hell would you need a 61mp sensor. Get one of the hybrid one.
An enthusiast may certainly still want a camera that allows for the amazing crops you can only get with this kind of camera, for example, and not need a camera one might be more inclined to get for wedding or event photography like the a7RV. Yes, the a7CR is expensive. But if you can afford it and if you can use its myriad features and advancements, why not? It is a superb, all-around camera.
The tiny grip on the a7C series is just too small for someone with regular sized hands, let alone anything above average sized hands. Kai can't even fit his entire had on the grip.
The a7CR comes with an additional grip you can screw onto the bottom of the camera. It is not a grip that adds additional battery life or allows for camera control, but it does increase the grip size for those who are ultra sensitive to this sort of thing.
Sony's camera lineup is ridiculous and they have no clear hierarchy. They never support firmwares and their lenses are uninspiring. It's a total mess and I would never invest in their system. They have updated nothing in basically 4 years.
That moment when a 3000 dollar camera body get's reffered to as a 'entry level', that's when you know inflation has kicked in real hard
Yeah but "entry level" only relates to uts subsequent level - its a 60mp camera , find me one that is in a comparable level at a near price
don't worry, some sucker is gonna buy it and then sell it after a month for $500 off after realising that photography isn't for them
@@elliotw.888the shops will stil resell at 2999$ :,(
@@elliotw.888 probably after dropping it to the floor too 😂
I realized that when when tacos went from 4$ to 10$
Over the years, I've found that this guy's reviews hits the nail on the head
LOK! Man it’s so awesome to see you guys back at it. Please do some versus, and funny challenges. Review videos are cool… but!
Yes! I love the challenge ideas! 😃
Im selling my leica q2 to get the a7cR, the size is perfect, especially with a 35mm pancake lens attached. This will be a huge selling camera. It's what we've been waiting for.
Single card slot... 😢
@@stuartwalker121Leica Q3 also has one
@@stuartwalker121 The Leica Q2 also.
So how is the A7CR w/ the 35mm pancake ? Enjoying it ?
Curious to know what 35mm pancake lens exist out there
That 40mm G looks so good on the silver body
Thank you Kai! I thought I was the only one that wanted a built in flash. It just makes sense for this body!
Great job on the video Kai! Thanks for making it. I'm definitely more interested in this camera than I am in the A7CII.
Everything is fine for still photos (a7CR), I just could not accept the low res EVF.
Sony A7cr and RV have the best colors among all Sony cameras.
Thanks!
How would you say this holds up against the Leica q3 you tested, if using for street and travel. Is the a7cr capable of matching the image quality .
Trying to decide wether to get this or the A7r IV for my trip to Japan in May. I’ll be pairing either one with a gm 2.8 24-70mm and a Zeiss Batis 85mm. My biggest point of contention for the A7cr is how it performs video and photo wise compared to the A7r IV. In any one can give advice or suggestions please let me know. Coming from film to Digital is such a headache with all this new tech
I just got one, and It's basically the same as a7r IV with a small body and a cheaper price tag... better for travel due to it's size tho.
What did you end up doing? I’m in the same boat I go at the end of March
@@AlecJulianGarza I actually ended up going with Fujifilm and got the Xpro3 :)
I personally love the philosophy of recent compact full frame cameras. Such as Nikon Zf, Canon EOS RP (i had for over 2 years and loved it), the R8, so what the RP should have been from the beginning, the Sony ZV-1E, A7CR or A7C II depending on the needs,....
Good times are coming for me as soon those bodies are outdated and affordable for me 2nd hand.
I've been waiting for this.
great content as usual. Were the sample photos SOOC or processed?
Always nice to see you guys. The beginning of the video seemed a bit random and edit doesnt seems as smooth as usual, random pauses, voice over while talking.
Looks nicer than the other Sony cameras. They are very good with AI autofocus.
I'm going to buy a new camera from Sony which is better a7Rv or a7CR I hope your advice
Why’s that a7c R silver? In Australia we only have black
I wish you'd do a long-term A7Rv video.
What tripod were you using in this video luv?
Nothing breaks my brain more than Sony's obscure model branding. What happened to the days of HandyCam and WalkMan 😂
Kai, thanks for the great video, super helpful especially for release day!
Anyone know what’s the tripod used in the video?
Kai, your affiliate link isn't working :P
Sony could of at least gave us a 3.69m evf.
which is best for photography only? a7cii or a7cr?
Yes
YES! I would have LOVED a built-in flash to rival the Fuji x100 series cameras! Come on Sony BRING IT BACK!
Can you shoot 26 mp Raw-M on A7CR?
yes
Wow first time I've been this early to a Kai Video - Love the content!
If Sony have not mentioned the price, then its safe to assume it will be greatly overpriced for the amount of features the camera comes with
0:06 Kai, get some moisturizing lotion!
I’m selling all my RF stuff to go to this. Ready for lens heaven.
Happy to see the combination with the 40mm G lens, my favourite focal length. I would be a nice alternative to my A7R III.
The size is perfect for my long hikes in the mountains, I also crop and print sometimes big. But not really happy with the backscreen and the EVF.
Kai gives us the Nikon Zf video already!!! We know you have the camera!!!
フルサイズはこの2機種があれば全てこなせる！
I know you're joking but it's a little annoying for you to constantly refer to this (and the a7cii) as an entry level camera for beginners, like at 6:56 - this is literally a $3000 camera. A7cii is still $2200. People looking at these cameras want full frame in a compact package instead of needing to lug around a big and heavy regular sized model for the same quality. If someone wants a full frame camera for cheap they'd just get an older model like an a7iii.
i luv you gays allways and alammby ice cream kai king lock, and cameras, you know
Im digging the design, reminds me of Fujifilm.
The design is a consistent continuation from Sony's APS-C a6x00 line, which in turn continued the a5x00 line.
Fuji looks old-fashioned in comparison, as if made by old men for old men 😉
@@tubularificationed its really not the a6000 , its from the nex line .
Your comment on the fuji design undermines the fact that taste differs and unlike your comment which is plainly wrong - is just ignorant.
@@tubularificationed The A7c looks like many classic range finder signed bodies. The contax g2, for example.
No comment on your doofy bias.
The new A7C remind me actually much of today's Leicas. Both speak the same design language. Very handsome.
Whereas most Fuji, or the new "retro" Nikons, or Pentax are just cameras for old men, who are nostalgically looking back to the era of their younger days, when their photographic juices were still flowing 😉
Nothing wrong with such a marketing strategy, there's lots of money to pull from. Old men are valuable customers, because often they have more money saved, than they have remaining active / agile years left to spend that. That's why old men often buy the most expensive stuff. No surprise that Fuji and Nikon attempt to harvest that market segment.
I like though that Leica doesn't fall for this cheesy retro opportunism. Neither does Sony.
@@tubularificationed That's all just nonsense conjecture. Totally unsupported by reality in any way. Honestly, I'd be surprised if you know a single photographer. Your info is just so spectacularly far off base it can't come from any sort of first hand experience.
So, yeah. I'm out.
looks killer
Wait for A7cr ii. They will add joystick, 8000 speed, and may be one more custom button... They intentionally didn't include these functions now to make sale next time.
"animal stroking a bird" had me in tears
Funny video about this 2 cameras.
Does 61mp produce higher quality images?
Hello sir can you sell me sony a7cii
Noob question, what does "improved color science" even means? More accurate colors? What is accurate color anyways when it depends on the display?
cannons are red Nikon's are green Sony's are crap
“Improved color science” has nothing whatsoever to do with the display. It’s about how the scene colors are interpreted, recorded, and rendered to the image file. Accuracy is the foundation of it, but the next stage goes beyond that. Any color scientist will tell you that if you show a person the same photo with “accurate” colors versus “pleasing” colors, people pick what’s more pleasing almost every time. It’s like how choosing color film always has been: You choose the film that most closely matches how you *prefer* the colors to be rendered. Maybe a scientist needs color that is absolutely colorimetrically correct but aesthetically very dry, but the rest of us want colors that render landscapes, people, and sunsets in a way that makes us go “wow…yes”. Another way people think of better “color science” is that it takes you a lot less time to edit it to get the colors you want, because the colors look so much better right out of the camera. With bad color, you waste more time fighting with the image on your computer to make the colors look the way you want.
Sony's color science is, and has always been horrible. They refuse to improve it or correct it.
This camera is far from being the “entry level” of the latest camera they released recently.
What was the critter that ran behind you??? Didn't quite look like a dog. Looked more like a wild boar. O.o
Lok on a Log! LOL
… shooting LOG gamma!
A7R3 for $2k is the move, people.
but only for slow photography (static stills), such as landscape. Not good for people photography or anything else which requires at least some amount of agility or spontaneity.
🤫🤫 I haven't got one yet. 😉 Maybe for Christmas. 🙏
@@tubularificationedI have a photo published in a calendar that was shot with my (still working) Canon EOS T1i. It's not the camera. lol
Your Canon T1i calendar photo was only slow photography (static stills), such as landscape. It wasn't for people or anything else which requires at least some amount of agility or spontaneity 😉
@@sweettooth5737People who say it's not the camera are the same people who think you can set a nurburgring record in a Fiat Panda.
That moment when you shooting sony camera review on panasonic 😅
That Panther was too close!
puh, this review has mostly a strange background music, sometimes depressing ^^ one of your worse review, but still nice :)
how is it a baby when it's 98% the same size as the a7v???
Older teen maybe...
208g difference is not nothing. I can tell you it is massive. I have an old a7c 509g and added a smallrig cage of 210g, then now i feel the a7c too heavy despite a top notch handle grip. You have a grip identical to a full body camera. But i loose the compactness and the small weight. Finally i removed it as i have a gimbal and don’t want to add the weight on the gimbal. It is already too heavy. I am fine with the a7c grip, small evf, small media file, smaller sensor with less noise at high iso, smaller 1080p60 and 120 no crop, 4k24 no crop. With upscaling 1080p is rendered like 4k. It is very good 1080. The result would not be far better with the latest cameras.
I guess I have to say bye bye to fp L...
Save the money and get a lens or sell and get the Leica q2 used . Watch the Tony and Chelsea review - there’s no Sony lens that is compact and can make use of those 60megapixels.
Lok being AI explains a lot.
Fujifilm inspired design, interesting
The design is a consistent continuation from Sony's APS-C a6x00 line, which in turn continued the a5x00 line.
Fuji looks old-fashioned in comparison, as if made by old men for old men 😉
Not exactly at baby prices. I do wonder who their captive market is in these times, I has to be quite small.
Also, no way am I going as high as 60MP for a hybrid camera. I won't more than about 40.
Oh my, your getting old?
a7CR is an unmitigated disaster because of the omission of the "tilt-screen" function that landscape still shooters favor. That is a dealbreaker.
@@AllisonRoadWest troll, lol good one
This video was excellent 💯
The secret trick is, to first swivel the screen out, and then tilt it to your liking 🙂 Especially for tripod usage, it makes NO difference if it is with or without prior swiveling. Just requires an additional 0.5 seconds.
@@tubularificationedoh no! you've just asked a "stuck in my ways" dude to change his ways!
@@tubularificationed that is the difference between nailing the shot and having nothing when street shooting with the A1 & 50GM. That half second to setup and take down delays the ability to get in the action at the precise moment and you will continue to lose chances by having a slower screen mechanism
Yawn… how about these companies start working on smaller lenses with wide apertures? The cameras keep getting smaller yet the lenses are 3 to 5 times bigger than the cameras lol
Lenses unfortunately rely on optical design that doesnt really like to be miniaturized.
Anything wide will be large and anything long will also be large.
35 to around 60 can and might have some room for space improvements - but not much.
For a compact full frame, those cameras still chonky AF. If only that pricing was closer to the R8, I’d consider jumping on the Sony bandwagon but nope. Too steep.
Canon FTW! 😂
R8 has no ibis and its a "smaller" 24mp sensor , not really comparable
Still overeating?
I have nothing good to say about these camera’s, just endless compromises and the battery life doesn’t bode well at all
Literalle the opposite to what most reviewers are saying 😂
Omg it looks like a 1970s Zenit-B 🥵
眼鏡電 驗光師 眼鏡度數
Mate, pay your partner well! He looks like he hasn’t eaten for a long time. 😅
Lol Lok
too funny 😂
He's compact, and high resolution.
@@riparianlife97701 and stabilized.
3k? Lol...
tipsy bot ey
半斤八兩 電影 透視眼鏡
A7cR is a joke because if you are a professional get the A7R5 because it's an investment. And if you are a hobbyist why the hell would you need a 61mp sensor. Get one of the hybrid one.
An enthusiast may certainly still want a camera that allows for the amazing crops you can only get with this kind of camera, for example, and not need a camera one might be more inclined to get for wedding or event photography like the a7RV. Yes, the a7CR is expensive. But if you can afford it and if you can use its myriad features and advancements, why not? It is a superb, all-around camera.
A single card slot on a $3K camera is B.S.
The tiny grip on the a7C series is just too small for someone with regular sized hands, let alone anything above average sized hands. Kai can't even fit his entire had on the grip.
The a7CR comes with an additional grip you can screw onto the bottom of the camera. It is not a grip that adds additional battery life or allows for camera control, but it does increase the grip size for those who are ultra sensitive to this sort of thing.
It's the A"eye" processor 😅
Sony's camera lineup is ridiculous and they have no clear hierarchy. They never support firmwares and their lenses are uninspiring. It's a total mess and I would never invest in their system. They have updated nothing in basically 4 years.
Disapppointed in these. They need to suck up their pride and pay panasonic for IBIS licesnsing.
Mount too small
AVOID! very cheap evf and lcd screen
How does this affect the image quality if the photos ?
...just once, I would like SONY to drop a body that is for those of us with LARGE hands...you're bodies are too small SONY.
You can always add to a small body, but you can't take away from a large one.
These Sony alpha are easy to rig up and make larger. So that is NOT a valid request
@@AllisonRoadWestagreed, but I do wish there were new battery grips that utilized the multifunction dial and had consistent button layout
Thumbs down for the product, thumbs up for the presentation.
Kai's presentations are always a delight to watch
Boring
wow. good ol Sony greenish skin tones. meh.