Live in Northern Norway and i'd say getting a 4s hybrid in these parts where i live, is more socially acceptable to drive around in, instead of a pure gas engine car. Also because of this, they price pure gas/diesel cars with big engines alooooooot higher then hybrids and electric cars. The GTS is more expensive then the Turbo S hybrid here in Norway. So i guess you could say "environmentally friendly sport beasts" are a lot cheaper here:)
I own a 2016 Panamera GTS. Since I have a wife and 2 kids, I wanted a Panamera so I could have a daily driver, yet still have great performance for an occasional twisty road. I love that versatility! I bought the GTS for the additional performance over the 4S (and better sound to be honest). Great video! I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on how the new ones drive!
I am a Porsche fan.... Porsche Panamera GTS Sport Turismo: 4.0 V8, 453 horsepower, 0-60: 3.9sec (with sport chrono) - base price $135,550 Porsche Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo: 4.0 V8, 550 horsepower, 0-60: 3.6 sec(with sport chrono)- base price $155,050 Mercedes AMG E63S wagon: 4.0 V8, 603 horsepower, 0-60: 3.0sec - base price $107,945 .... but I must be overlooking the justification.
My Friend the E63 or M5 are not really direct competitors when it comes to the luxury and size of the Panamera. If you jump into any Panamera even the base model Panamera 4 has such nice quality to it without the full leather package. The fit and finish imo is even nicer than that of the S class. Even if you upgrade to the full leather interior vs the upgraded nappa leather in the S class to me the Panamera is still nicer. So you dont even have to compare the interior to the E class. Also Im a current X5 owner and i felt like the E class is significantly smaller in size but when I test drove the Panamera I was very surprised by the fact that it felt alot wider than my car.
Hey MotoMan. Great review as usual. I live in Florida, U.S.A. and I would use the GTS fully loaded as a daily soccer dad driver. That green looks sweet. Horsepower doesn't compete with the E63S or the RS6 though. We need more German wagons.
I live in North Carolina, up near the mountains - not far from the tail of the dragon! I just ordered the '21 4S e-hybrid in papaya metallic with the 21" rims like this one. Can't wait to get it!! Get up with the great videos!
I own a 2014 GTS W/14k so I'm taking the GTS with the V8 can't beat the sound of a V8...plus it's limited to every two years so kinda rare in its numbers....
2018 sport turismo 4s, live in Dallas TX, daily driver. GTS was not available plus I got mine for a smoking deal. I do love a nasty V8, but the Nissan GTR and old audi s models have shown these v6 platforms can squeeze power up to a thousand hp. A little less weight in the nose helps driving dynamics.
Very nice color. Nice interior.i have the 4 v6 hybrid, fully satisfied..I also drove the former panamera gts that was great/great v8 sound and more rough than the new model. 4hybrid is 100% tax deductible and low benefit in kind in Belgium...so no hesitation, if u have the 130k euro...and very safe to drive to the limit compared to a 9964s
Thank you! Finally a propper "Motor Mann" reporting back on the GTS! Btw.; please drive a GTS with 4 wheel steering but WITHOUT PDCC. Or a comparison would be great! PDCC seams to corrupt the otherwise nice steering of the Panamera.
MotoMan, you ask if we'd prefer 4S vs. GTS. I'd emphatically say neither, because I'd definitely choose the Panamera 4 E-Hybrid over both, with its 462 hp, cheaper price, awesome low-end torque, and just the ability to go a couple dozen miles on all-electric. Not even close. Evidently, Europeans agree, because they have been buying Panamera E-Hybrids by almost 2-1 over ICE-only Panameras...
You are 100% correct about the ridiculous haptic buttons on the console - they add nothing in terms of drivability AND they are a truly stupid reduction in terms of driving safety. They should be banned outright on those grounds alone!!
I drive a 2015 Ford Escape with aspirations of one day owning a #Porsche. Been watching for a couple of years, since 2016 from Lansing, Michigan and Extreme Northern California, USA.
I was looking forward to this! How was your trip, M? I would love to hear the details, I hear Bahrain is a cool place. That building with the wind turbines is so cool! Also, how was your trip to Patrol Country... Errr the UAE? . . . ;) I would've loved to meet you, but I was in the other side & life got in the way . . . :( Back to the Panamera, I'd definitely pick the GTS ... Because V8! Unfortunately I fall into the latter category. The track we have is a drag strip. The closest proper is in Riyadh about 600 miles away & you're literally standing in the second closest one lol (950ish miles away) As always, Excellent work, M! Its been a privilege being in this journey with you . . . :) السلام عليكم ✌️ Cheers!
Trip was AMAZING! Started in Dubai and made my way to Jebel Jais - stunning place, and yes, it is part of the upcoming Patrol/Touring the UAE episode. Then over to Abu Dhabi, which I MUCH preferred to Dubai for some time on Yas Marina Circuit. Absolutely want to go back - and we will have to meet up for certain . . . السلام عليكم
whichever can be had without the Alcantara overload... nothing worse, I hate that stuff. that is a compromise that's come up in lots of cars lately. the Lexus lc, Acura NSX the more sporty trims get it... i know in some cases it is about sustainability but I would have ultra-premium faux leather over that stuff. daily driving in Louisiana.
"What is the car to be used for".? Life.. everyday, everywhere. What else is there.? Track.. NEVER. Let's leave that to the wannabe's. Nice film, I enjoyed it. WF
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Hello, new to your channel, love your engaging content. So, I’m in the market for a car like this. NOT interested in carting kids around, I’m about to turn sixty, they can catch the bus. I want a V8 won’t be going on race tracks. I’m fortunate to be a kiwi living in France. So, my purpose is to be able to drive all over Europe in comfort, and when I get to the German roads, be able to stretch its legs. Getting there will take time, so I need to be comfortable, space for luggage, but not wanting to be put to sleep, but to drive.
Thank you for bringing such great reviews to us... my only gripe is that that green is out of this world ugly... if you were to put purple anywhere on that car it would be the hulk car 🤣
Following him since the beginning. He deserves way more viewers. Damn youtube algorithm, put his videos on peoples homepage
I agree. I feel like I'm in a learning class when watching him. He's making me a true car enthusiast.
I have a 2017 Turbo.. When given the choice between a V6 and a V8.. You choose the V8 11 times out of 10.. :)
Live in Northern Norway and i'd say getting a 4s hybrid in these parts where i live, is more socially acceptable to drive around in, instead of a pure gas engine car. Also because of this, they price pure gas/diesel cars with big engines alooooooot higher then hybrids and electric cars. The GTS is more expensive then the Turbo S hybrid here in Norway. So i guess you could say "environmentally friendly sport beasts" are a lot cheaper here:)
I own a 2016 Panamera GTS. Since I have a wife and 2 kids, I wanted a Panamera so I could have a daily driver, yet still have great performance for an occasional twisty road. I love that versatility! I bought the GTS for the additional performance over the 4S (and better sound to be honest). Great video! I can’t wait to hear your thoughts on how the new ones drive!
Most informative reviewer on you tube - loved your 911 reviews and this one is just as good.
Thank you!
appreciate the extra attention to mechanical detail you go into.
I really don't understand why you're not on popular tv shows
Especially considering the amount of knowledge he has on cars.
I'd go GTS because I'm assuming it sounds better for only a little bit more money, and maybe better resale
I am a Porsche fan....
Porsche Panamera GTS Sport Turismo: 4.0 V8, 453 horsepower, 0-60: 3.9sec (with sport chrono) - base price $135,550
Porsche Panamera Turbo Sport Turismo: 4.0 V8, 550 horsepower, 0-60: 3.6 sec(with sport chrono)- base price $155,050
Mercedes AMG E63S wagon: 4.0 V8, 603 horsepower, 0-60: 3.0sec - base price $107,945
.... but I must be overlooking the justification.
My Friend the E63 or M5 are not really direct competitors when it comes to the luxury and size of the Panamera. If you jump into any Panamera even the base model Panamera 4 has such nice quality to it without the full leather package. The fit and finish imo is even nicer than that of the S class. Even if you upgrade to the full leather interior vs the upgraded nappa leather in the S class to me the Panamera is still nicer. So you dont even have to compare the interior to the E class. Also Im a current X5 owner and i felt like the E class is significantly smaller in size but when I test drove the Panamera I was very surprised by the fact that it felt alot wider than my car.
there isn't one except you have to want to own a Porsche is all. brand power.
Merc sounds like a 1975 pickup though
@@glider1232 that could well be the case but I would be more embarrassed if I sounded like a crappy 4 cylinder Honda civic ricer mobile ie a porsche
Porsche often exceeds the spec. My 2017 C4S will do 3-3.2 sec to 60 even though specs say 3.6. Mercedes generally doesn't exceed specs.
Hey MotoMan. Great review as usual.
I live in Florida, U.S.A. and I would use the GTS fully loaded as a daily soccer dad driver.
That green looks sweet.
Horsepower doesn't compete with the E63S or the RS6 though.
We need more German wagons.
Hey man
Good to see you as always
I pick the GTS
Drive it to work
Love from Saudi Arabia
does it sound the same as the turbo one ?
I live in North Carolina, up near the mountains - not far from the tail of the dragon! I just ordered the '21 4S e-hybrid in papaya metallic with the 21" rims like this one. Can't wait to get it!! Get up with the great videos!
Here's your color: th-cam.com/video/ylPR_uJRc6o/w-d-xo.html
I own a 2014 GTS W/14k so I'm taking the GTS with the V8 can't beat the sound of a V8...plus it's limited to every two years so kinda rare in its numbers....
2018 sport turismo 4s, live in Dallas TX, daily driver. GTS was not available plus I got mine for a smoking deal.
I do love a nasty V8, but the Nissan GTR and old audi s models have shown these v6 platforms can squeeze power up to a thousand hp. A little less weight in the nose helps driving dynamics.
As a Canadien buyer, I would prefer the GTS loaded with options. Not underpowered nor overpowered , perfect for the winter
Very nice color. Nice interior.i have the 4 v6 hybrid, fully satisfied..I also drove the former panamera gts that was great/great v8 sound and more rough than the new model. 4hybrid is 100% tax deductible and low benefit in kind in Belgium...so no hesitation, if u have the 130k euro...and very safe to drive to the limit compared to a 9964s
Nice review. Just found your channel and have subscribed. Looking forward to future Porsche content 👌
I love this car, especially in that color. You can lose the ceramic brakes.
Finally a GTS that has something you can't get in the S even with options, think GTS is the one to go because 8 Zyl.
Thank you! Finally a propper "Motor Mann" reporting back on the GTS! Btw.; please drive a GTS with 4 wheel steering but WITHOUT PDCC. Or a comparison would be great! PDCC seams to corrupt the otherwise nice steering of the Panamera.
Wasn't an opportunity. EVERY car on the launch had PDCC.
My dealer claims that on Panamera 4 wheel steering corrupt the driving experience, not pdcc.
That thing is beautiful!!!
I would choose 4wd version and daily it. Thanks for sharing dude!!
so basically you get a well known tuner to raise the boost and all parameters and get a panamera turbo for substantially less...
MotoMan, you ask if we'd prefer 4S vs. GTS. I'd emphatically say neither, because I'd definitely choose the Panamera 4 E-Hybrid over both, with its 462 hp, cheaper price, awesome low-end torque, and just the ability to go a couple dozen miles on all-electric. Not even close. Evidently, Europeans agree, because they have been buying Panamera E-Hybrids by almost 2-1 over ICE-only Panameras...
@motomantv does the GTS have awd? Would it be a good winter ❄️ driver?
You are 100% correct about the ridiculous haptic buttons on the console - they add nothing in terms of drivability AND they are a truly stupid reduction in terms of driving safety. They should be banned outright on those grounds alone!!
@MinerGate (you forgot to upvote my comment - so I did it for you!) ;-)
Great vblog as always. I live in the San Fernando Valley. So I would be driving the Rugrats around of course. ✅🚗
What wld posses a person not to get the Sport Turismo?
Its would be crazy if Porsche actually offered this car in manual transmission.
Mooooo Powa baby!!!!!!
I drive a 2015 Ford Escape with aspirations of one day owning a #Porsche. Been watching for a couple of years, since 2016 from Lansing, Michigan and Extreme Northern California, USA.
Another wagon (Panamera Sport) for rich folk, when will there be #WagonsForTheRestOfUs ?
I was looking forward to this! How was your trip, M? I would love to hear the details, I hear Bahrain is a cool place.
That building with the wind turbines is so cool!
Also, how was your trip to Patrol Country... Errr the UAE? . . . ;)
I would've loved to meet you, but I was in the other side & life got in the way . . . :(
Back to the Panamera, I'd definitely pick the GTS ... Because V8!
Unfortunately I fall into the latter category. The track we have is a drag strip. The closest proper is in Riyadh about 600 miles away & you're literally standing in the second closest one lol (950ish miles away)
As always, Excellent work, M! Its been a privilege being in this journey with you . . . :)
السلام عليكم ✌️
Cheers!
Trip was AMAZING! Started in Dubai and made my way to Jebel Jais - stunning place, and yes, it is part of the upcoming Patrol/Touring the UAE episode. Then over to Abu Dhabi, which I MUCH preferred to Dubai for some time on Yas Marina Circuit. Absolutely want to go back - and we will have to meet up for certain . . . السلام عليكم
@@MotoManTV
Looking forward to it!
I agree, Abu Dhabi is very underrated.
🤔4400lbs with 453hp the power to weight ratio is not that impressive! But the Porsches is a Beauty😍
whichever can be had without the Alcantara overload... nothing worse, I hate that stuff. that is a compromise that's come up in lots of cars lately. the Lexus lc, Acura NSX the more sporty trims get it... i know in some cases it is about sustainability but I would have ultra-premium faux leather over that stuff. daily driving in Louisiana.
I'm with you. Alcantara just feels icky to me.
@@thesquelcher And once it's old and dirty there's nothing worse
I agree on seats, but I love it on the headliner and door inserts! Adds a special look.
"What is the car to be used for".?
Life.. everyday, everywhere. What else is there.?
Track.. NEVER. Let's leave that to the wannabe's.
Nice film, I enjoyed it.
WF
I miss the old n/a gts. That thing screamed
Bad idea. This car will have major issues, too much heat will kill it on the placement of the turbochargers, Ask BMW.....
Um, no! Audi has been running essentially the same setup with their 4.0T and it's proven to be reliable and a monster.
Thanks. Me take it home.
I'm not getting notification from this channel, i unsubscribed then subscribed again but still not working 😔
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can you puck me up in greece,drama?
Hello, new to your channel, love your engaging content. So, I’m in the market for a car like this. NOT interested in carting kids around, I’m about to turn sixty, they can catch the bus. I want a V8 won’t be going on race tracks. I’m fortunate to be a kiwi living in France. So, my purpose is to be able to drive all over Europe in comfort, and when I get to the German roads, be able to stretch its legs.
Getting there will take time, so I need to be comfortable, space for luggage, but not wanting to be put to sleep, but to drive.
Thank you for bringing such great reviews to us... my only gripe is that that green is out of this world ugly... if you were to put purple anywhere on that car it would be the hulk car 🤣
That thumbnail makes the car look properly hideous
when are you going to review a tesla model x?
I wish they’d make an actual sedan version. I love you Porsche but this is a wagon.
Ronald Stonecipher they do have sedan version
Hm send me a link
Alcantara looks good when it’s new but it’s just not durable within a year or two it looks like hot garbage. Please stop putting it in the cars.
Hireous
Ждаоыщ
the side profile is terrible , looks like a squashed cayenne. way to go Porsche, not