15:35 exactly, this is why analog dashboards need to make a comeback, you can tweak everything just by sensing around instead of looking at a screen and press 30 buttons.
@@Maxster9947 the whole system rebooted. Luckily the front dashboard did not reboot as weel. I saw this happending on VW cars. Really frogthening stuff.
I am so happy that Porsche didn't follow the other brands and actually integrated their screens into the dash. I hate the way many car manufacturers just slap their screens on top of the dashboard.
@@thatblue-e92 it has nothing to do with safety. It's just cheaper to slap a big screen on top of the dash and not having to shape the dash to the screens and fit it all nicely together. It's just lazy hideous design policy. If they cared about safety in interiors at all they would've stuck with easily accesible physical buttons that you never even have to take your eyes off the road for. instead of their infinite menus and haptic bullshit.
@@bagofsunshine3916 I’d argue that by integrating the screen on the dash you use less material (aluminium, leather) and more plastic since every screen is plastic, but it is bout safety like I said, you can believe whatever you want though no one cares
@@m.f.4414 my guy they literally covered the entire center console in cheap piano black plastic that gets scratched just by looking at it😂 you they they care about premium materials?😂😂
No problem, it would be a nightmare for the seventh owner Who bought It 20 years later, and doesn't have the money for even a pair of tires, but wants to say: look at me, i have a Porsche 🎉
That last exit on the Autobahn, before becoming a Dutch highway, leads to my hometown. Sometimes I hit the pedal to the medal of my Mazda MX5 ND, just to get a glimps on how Max feels driving these vicious vehicles.
@@mastodon5220not the same shit, Mercedes one is just for undigging yourself if you stuck somewhere this one from Porsche is better, more advanced and more useful in daily life
@ this is S-Class/Maybach features that exists for decades^^it absolutely is the ( raising/ lowering by approaching the vehicle .. )“bouncing” was one of few features my guy, check on their website for details wtf u try arguing here ? btw hydro pneumatic/hydraulic suspension as such exists way before were talking 50s,60s for example 1960 Mercedes Grosser had hydraulic suspension that can lift/lower , so what ? they put hydraulic suspension in a Panamera now if u like just as Mercedes did since 2020? they just let u control it to some degrees with ur app ?! wich is funny but useless
@@mastodon5220the mercedes active suspension isn’t even in the same league as porsches active ride, not even close. Mercedes system is slow to react and is known for many failures, can’t compare this to porsches
@@mastodon5220 Mercedes 600 W100 (Grosser was never used in Germany for that car) has pneumatic suspension. PNEUMA means "breath" in ancient greek therefore AIR suspenion is PNEUMAtic. HYDRA means water in ancient greek therefore OIL suspension is HYDRAulic and is using mineral oil. The first Mercedes with hydraulic suspension is W116 and after that the W126 which both are active HYDRAulic, means it can go up and down. W140 has closed system which acts only on compression or you can stiffen the ride with a button. W220,W221 and W222 come standart with AIRmatic which is pneumatic and optionally ABC (Active Body Control) which hydraulic is standart for all V12s. I won't mention W223 because this car is not worthy of carrying the Mercedes-Benz star..
I had the „best“ opportunity for a system failure/reboot: I was exiting the parking garage of the Porsche Museum in my Panamera, when the system went black. The usual road back to the Autobahn was blocked at that time due to the reconstruction of Werk1 and former Porsche Center Stuttgart. Great Situation, I had no Idea where to go and was lost on Porscheplatz Nr. 1.
Porsche has two four settings for tyre pressures. It's a combination of (full load/partial load) vs. (comfort pressure/regular pressure). My Cayenne has 22" wheels and partial load with comfort pressure is 36psi-39psi front and rear. Comfort pressure limits are market dependent. UKDM comfort pressure limits the speed at 260km/h. Regular, full load pressure would be 45psi-48psi. These are 20C, cold tyre pressures. Every 4C adds 1 psi more. Pirelli and Michelin are producing tyres with N0 homologation for Porsche cars. They're limited to 50psi. So the question is, let's say you're driving it in Greece or Italy, hot weather around 40C, on warm tarmac. PCM suggests the correct pressures to you, supposedly. It suggested me to do 56psi for the rears this summer. Complete non-sense. Underinflation would tyres to blow out, these things are heavy. With less sidewall, heat dissipation becomes more of an issue. Tyres and pressures, and PCM are the only things I regret on my Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid.
Let's imagine you are doubting between a Panamera and a Cayenne (same engine, etc.) and, in general, you are more on the Cayenne side (easier to get in and out, smaller footprint, cheaper, etc.): Is the PDK worth enough to go or the Panamera?
@@leonardschluter7037 yes with vw engine and gearbox+ many other parts, they tune it better indeed. You have google and wiki, check parts codes, engines etc. I own a Cayenne myself, very reliable premium VW.
@@Vlad-wp7msThis gearbox is only available in Panamera and Bentley. It's not available in a VW or Audi. It's called MSB and it's very similar in it's gear layout to the MMB in the 911.
Cayenne owner here. PCM and Porsche Connect online services are by far the worst in the planet. Constant reboots, connectivity issues, glitches, race conditions, OMFG. I have an Audi too and although they're using the same software under the hood Audi's version way more stable and connectivity rarely disappoints you. Porsches are also very expensive to repair and most of us the owners are finding ourselves in the well-known forum, Rennlist, just in order to figure out the issues letting alone paying the P-tax. No Porsche should be driven without warranty, and this one will desperately need that as well. And the quality is way inferior compared to E3.1, our seat buttons are chrome-plated, this one is similar to Audi Q8. Why would you pay P-tax if you're getting something similar to Q8? Cost cutting is insane.
Das ist doch verrückt ❕ Da gibt man so viel Geld für einen Porsche aus und muss sich dann mit Software Problemen herum ärgern ‼️😏 Ich höre von so vielen Porsche Besitzern, die extreme Probleme haben, mit ihren Autos, wegen der Software und Batterien, die sich innerhalb von ungefähr 3 Wochen selbst entladen... weil die ganze Elektronik wohl, während das Auto in der Garage steht, Strom verbrauchen. Ich glaub, könnte ich mir ein Auto leisten, ich würde ein älteres Modell nehmen... ohne so viel Digitalisierung, Nannys, Bevormundung und dem ständigen Gepiepe, wegen jedem Mist 😕
992 Turbo S and Taycan owner here (previous Cayenne, GT4, 992 GTS)… the PCM is excellent and I’ve had zero issues. Agree with having a warranty for the outrageous costs of service, but fortunately I have had little need for any repairs
@@JVMP58 you’re delusional. just compare an MB forum and Rennlist, not hard to distinguish which one is way less reliable. I owned an W222 S Class for 3 yrs and had literally zero issues. never needed the warranty, parts were expensive but at least they were durable. porsche are just rebranded vw, you’ll use the same plastic vacuum pump which needs to be replaced at every 50k miles. i’m not saying it nor I’ve changed mine, just look at rennlist. we have 3000 page thread for an errant battery, but yeah, I trust you these are ‘reliable’ cars.
@@imBugra Delusional? No, I’m speaking from experience, and after owning and racing over 40 cars that’s my perspective. If by MB you’re referring to Mercedes, they are currently 29th out of 30 on Consumer Reports reliability rating while Porsche sits at number 8. Cheers to facts over Internet forums…
@JVMP58 that’s where you’re being delusional. you can’t compare two entirely different brands with their reliability index. MB is quite reliable in their flagship vehicles. most of the cabs in Europe are MB, much popular than even the Japanese brands. we’re comparing cayenne/panamera to s class/g class/gle/gls here. that would be an equal comparison. I’ve seen many 1mil+ km mercs but rarely a 100k+ miles porsche, the resell value is dead.
Digitalization is not a problem when you know how to do it, like Tesla. Traditional OEM's are still on a steep digitalization learning curve. They still make up for it with perfection in everything else.
Seeing the center screen just turn off randomly like that, is part of the reason I'm not too keen on this "digitizing everything" trend that car manufacturers are embarking on.
I love the car, and I absolutely love Audi, but there is just *too much* four-ring vibe happening here. And that fake exhaust note is horrible! Thank you for yet another amazing video.
I have one of these on order, so this video was enjoyable to see. Shame about the fake engine noises, but I guess with the exhaust being so quiet now, something is needed for a little feedback. I have the previous Turbo S e-hybrid. Not a better daily four-door, four-seater car.
@gordongraham2817 You ask at a coincidental time. It has been perfect. It is mindblowing to drive. Extremely smooth and comfortable at slow speeds, and when a windy road allows, it can be pushed for more exciting drives. I can imagine people saying that it is a little emotionless to drive. That is because it combines effortless, luxury, and masses of capability; it is always within its comfort zone. You have to compare it side by side with other cars to appreciate it. I drove 100 miles in the Panamera to test drive a DB12. The Aston had an amazing interior but the drive was mute in comparison with the Panamera. Driving back home, I realised how nice is the steering feel, and the response of the engine. I have a Ferrari FF, and thought the Panamera was the lesser car. Now I realise I have the two best four seaters. For reliability, perfect. The only issue is it seems the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres are extremely soft and wear very, very quickly. You have to use N-marked tyres for warranty sakes. I'll investigate Continentals for the next tyre. At this moment, the car is with Porsche to investigate an engine rumble at idle. I think when the battery is depleted, the car wants to use the engine to stop start but cannot. Nothing that I am concerned about. We use the Cayenne Turbo S e-hybrid, the same powertrain, for European tours, and it is 100% dependable. It is up snowy mountains to flooded roads and just works. I don't need to baby it like a Ferrari.
@@Spenny909 Thanks! I've driven the Ferarri FF, that's a great car. I'm considering getting a 972 Turbo S or a Cayenne Turbo GT, can't decide which one to get. Love how the new Panamera Turbo S looks and drives, and can be fully electric too, but don't want it at the shop with problems all the time. Will probably get the Panamera because I like the lower seating position more, and it feels and drives like a 992 in that aspect. But the Turbo GT looks great too, especially in PTS trim. Will be a hard decision. Thoughts?
@gordongraham2817 Porsche came back to me. I need to change the spark plugs. I often say the service interval of 2 years is too long. I viewed a Cayenne Turbo GT last week. They look amazing. Slightly smaller boot and one less seat in the back versus a Turbo S, which is why I don't have one. The 5-seater Cayenne is for holidays around the continent and I don't want to compromise on space. The Turbo GT handles slightly better than the Turbo S, but you can feel the ride height. No matter how well it sticks to a corner, it is that shift in body weight in the seat that gives away what you are driving. If you want a sporty feel, the ride height is very important and I would say go for the Panamera. The Cayenne Turbo GT would be a lot of fun, but if you had the two cars, it would be the Panamera that you take on those nice long drives. The Cayenne wins for all-round utility, being able to shrug off holes, hills, water, and snow, while still being enjoyable to drive. The space inside the Panamera and the Turbo GT is about the same. There will be more grunt and exhaust noise with the latter.
I’m not a huge fan of the revised front end, but it works with a darker colour, when it’s in white, silver or something like that it looks awful lol. This aventurine green or whatever it’s called is a beautiful paint colour.
Yes it's hybrid only, as is the non-S version. But who knows, maybe Porsche will make a Turbo S (non-hybrid) or a Turbo GT at some point...... or maybe not, due to modern emissions regulations.
@@uranzajmi6466 agreed, it would be great because this hybrid tech is very heavy. Perhaps it would be comparable to the M5 CS in the way it handles/etc...
@@DanielSadjadian there will most likely be a turbo GT version, its becoming the new top end model over the turbo S. the Taycan has a turbo GT weisach model thats more expensive and faster then the turbo S
so they don't call this the turbo S e hybrid anymore? People say this is expensive and it's true, but if you discount inflation...this car is actually mind-bendingly cheap considering all the features and the performance
I wonder if the auto industry will focus on analog creations in the future in the same way the watch industry pivoted to mechanical watches after the quartz crisis basically took over the affordable market.
15:35 exactly, this is why analog dashboards need to make a comeback, you can tweak everything just by sensing around instead of looking at a screen and press 30 buttons.
what even happened?
@Maxster9947 go to the timestamp from my comment and listen to what he says
@@POLARTTYRTM Yea I heard, thought something happened to the screen. Like it glitched at the timestamp. Nevermind.
@@Maxster9947 the whole system rebooted. Luckily the front dashboard did not reboot as weel. I saw this happending on VW cars. Really frogthening stuff.
My 15yr old Hyundai i10 is analog and I really like it.
Getting daily videos is such a blessing, love it
"it´s an absolut beast of a COOOR"
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CÖR
@@ghoulbuster1 COÕÔR
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💀💀💀💀💀💀
I am so happy that Porsche didn't follow the other brands and actually integrated their screens into the dash.
I hate the way many car manufacturers just slap their screens on top of the dashboard.
It’s about safety, the closer the screen is in your line of vision the better, you take your eyes off the road less.
@@thatblue-e92 it has nothing to do with safety. It's just cheaper to slap a big screen on top of the dash and not having to shape the dash to the screens and fit it all nicely together.
It's just lazy hideous design policy.
If they cared about safety in interiors at all they would've stuck with easily accesible physical buttons that you never even have to take your eyes off the road for. instead of their infinite menus and haptic bullshit.
Yeah, every bullsh** in Cars nowadays are explained with "safety". Don't drive a car, drive a tank if you want to feel soooo safety.
@@bagofsunshine3916 I’d argue that by integrating the screen on the dash you use less material (aluminium, leather) and more plastic since every screen is plastic, but it is bout safety like I said, you can believe whatever you want though no one cares
@@m.f.4414 my guy they literally covered the entire center console in cheap piano black plastic that gets scratched just by looking at it😂 you they they care about premium materials?😂😂
Even though Active Ride makes driving this thing kind of mindboggling, it's probably gonna be hella expensive when something gets broken
That panamera starts at €170k!!!!!
@@curtisalex456 The Panamera Turbo S starts at 239k in the Netherlands and 229k in Germany
It’s hella expensive from the get go lol
No problem, it would be a nightmare for the seventh owner Who bought It 20 years later, and doesn't have the money for even a pair of tires, but wants to say: look at me, i have a Porsche 🎉
True, but, if someone can easlily afford this car, the cost of repair doesnt give them stress, or they would just trade it in for a newer model
That last exit on the Autobahn, before becoming a Dutch highway, leads to my hometown. Sometimes I hit the pedal to the medal of my Mazda MX5 ND, just to get a glimps on how Max feels driving these vicious vehicles.
2017 model of the panamera is the goat
Yees
Ive bought my turbos 2020 2 weeks go, and new one doesnt looks better for me
That active ride suspension is such a flex 💪🏻
1st : for who ?
2nd: to bad Mercedes had this introduced in 2020 by showing their bouncing SUV’s^^
@@mastodon5220not the same shit, Mercedes one is just for undigging yourself if you stuck somewhere this one from Porsche is better, more advanced and more useful in daily life
@ this is S-Class/Maybach features that exists for decades^^it absolutely is the ( raising/ lowering by approaching the vehicle .. )“bouncing” was one of few features my guy, check on their website for details wtf u try arguing here ?
btw hydro pneumatic/hydraulic suspension as such exists way before were talking 50s,60s for example 1960 Mercedes Grosser had hydraulic suspension that can lift/lower , so what ?
they put hydraulic suspension in a Panamera now if u like just as Mercedes did since 2020? they just let u control it to some degrees with ur app ?! wich is funny but useless
@@mastodon5220the mercedes active suspension isn’t even in the same league as porsches active ride, not even close. Mercedes system is slow to react and is known for many failures, can’t compare this to porsches
@@mastodon5220 Mercedes 600 W100 (Grosser was never used in Germany for that car) has pneumatic suspension. PNEUMA means "breath" in ancient greek therefore AIR suspenion is PNEUMAtic. HYDRA means water in ancient greek therefore OIL suspension is HYDRAulic and is using mineral oil. The first Mercedes with hydraulic suspension is W116 and after that the W126 which both are active HYDRAulic, means it can go up and down. W140 has closed system which acts only on compression or you can stiffen the ride with a button. W220,W221 and W222 come standart with AIRmatic which is pneumatic and optionally ABC (Active Body Control) which hydraulic is standart for all V12s. I won't mention W223 because this car is not worthy of carrying the Mercedes-Benz star..
That's a big NOGO with all that piano black.
I was waiting for this one 🔥
Autobhan Blaaaaaast love it when Max says that😂
*Autobahn
@vy84020 yeah whatever smart ass it spells the same word
@@sameurrahman-kr3wb Autobahn
Anyone else miss the Panamera Sport Turismo?
It’s Great that the Dutchman Mack’s is commenting .. he completes the Yah .. presentation
I had the „best“ opportunity for a system failure/reboot: I was exiting the parking garage of the Porsche Museum in my Panamera, when the system went black. The usual road back to the Autobahn was blocked at that time due to the reconstruction of Werk1 and former Porsche Center Stuttgart.
Great Situation, I had no Idea where to go and was lost on Porscheplatz Nr. 1.
I do not really like the exterior of this car.. but still it's a Porsche so I love it.
It's just me that doesn't like the front ?
I think so ahahah
what do you mean? it's perfectly fine
Its 10x prettier than previous one
It's look like xiaomi's car
Yeah previous was peak Panamera design
I hope you pushed the boost button on the steering weel at measuring the 100-200
electric motor also only gave 6 km of remaining power, which also makes a difference in power I expect
Why do the tire pressure indicators light up at higher speeds?
Porsche has two four settings for tyre pressures. It's a combination of (full load/partial load) vs. (comfort pressure/regular pressure). My Cayenne has 22" wheels and partial load with comfort pressure is 36psi-39psi front and rear. Comfort pressure limits are market dependent. UKDM comfort pressure limits the speed at 260km/h. Regular, full load pressure would be 45psi-48psi. These are 20C, cold tyre pressures. Every 4C adds 1 psi more. Pirelli and Michelin are producing tyres with N0 homologation for Porsche cars. They're limited to 50psi. So the question is, let's say you're driving it in Greece or Italy, hot weather around 40C, on warm tarmac. PCM suggests the correct pressures to you, supposedly. It suggested me to do 56psi for the rears this summer. Complete non-sense. Underinflation would tyres to blow out, these things are heavy. With less sidewall, heat dissipation becomes more of an issue. Tyres and pressures, and PCM are the only things I regret on my Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid.
Do you guys changed the camera focus or something? Because when you're on the wheels it seems more closer than before i think
The price is just insane tho, they are 180k+ euro
Another car I could never afford!
What a beauty!!😍😍😍
Your choice
i can afford 5 brand new of these if i sell my house.
Disappointed with the engine cover.. previous one had some bling to it at least!😄
The best chanel 👍👍👍👍
Gucci
You can't turn the fake sound off? Have you looked in the menu's at all?
Not gonna lie, I do like the front end. Gives me Aston Martin front end vibes and I like it.
Love that's still a V8 and not pure EV.
I think its better looking at the front. Agree it would be better in estate version or whatever it's named.
Yeah, but all that digital stuff from the active suspension to the displays can all be tweaked to perfection with quick software updates.
How does it compare to GT63E and new M5 in terms of suspension? Is it really much more comfortable than those two?
the green and brown is a top spec for that model of car.
Hey max, can you tell the most comfortable car you ever drove? With some good power...
why i don't have this car... I love. design, performance. It's my favorite.
I pray that one time I can drive this car
I cant wait for you to get your hands on the new bentley flying spur hybrid speed.
What do you mean by "fake sound"? Are the speakers generating an emulated V8 sound signature?
Yes
Autobahn Blaaast 💪
Fantastic daily GT❤
only a few cars can pull of green as if it's a native color... aston martin, jaguar, and porsche... any other ones?
Let's imagine you are doubting between a Panamera and a Cayenne (same engine, etc.) and, in general, you are more on the Cayenne side (easier to get in and out, smaller footprint, cheaper, etc.): Is the PDK worth enough to go or the Panamera?
This looks great . Best version ever .. Porsche does better n better annually
Hi,your vlogs are always amazing,but you never mention ,when you make interior showdown anything about the audio systems...
One of the best Porsche, the Panamera. As GTS the best one. Nice car anyway!
the active ride is pure magic, but the car does not seem to be emotional
I like the new front end.
You and Martin should start a podcast, I'd listen
I love those massive brakes the most.
They fill up a 21 inch wheel.
The old gen with new tec would be perfect
the best ever
Always thought Panameras were ugly AF, ...
but it IS a Porsche after all , and you gotta love the performance ! 😁
It looks so much better since they changed the roof line towards the back.
Not a porsche, audi aka vw engine and gearbox.
@@Vlad-wp7ms which audi or Volkswagen performs like the panamera?? not one single model😂 Porsche developes their cars themselves
@@leonardschluter7037 yes with vw engine and gearbox+ many other parts, they tune it better indeed. You have google and wiki, check parts codes, engines etc. I own a Cayenne myself, very reliable premium VW.
@@Vlad-wp7msThis gearbox is only available in Panamera and Bentley. It's not available in a VW or Audi. It's called MSB and it's very similar in it's gear layout to the MMB in the 911.
Cayenne owner here. PCM and Porsche Connect online services are by far the worst in the planet. Constant reboots, connectivity issues, glitches, race conditions, OMFG. I have an Audi too and although they're using the same software under the hood Audi's version way more stable and connectivity rarely disappoints you. Porsches are also very expensive to repair and most of us the owners are finding ourselves in the well-known forum, Rennlist, just in order to figure out the issues letting alone paying the P-tax. No Porsche should be driven without warranty, and this one will desperately need that as well. And the quality is way inferior compared to E3.1, our seat buttons are chrome-plated, this one is similar to Audi Q8. Why would you pay P-tax if you're getting something similar to Q8? Cost cutting is insane.
Das ist doch verrückt ❕
Da gibt man so viel Geld für einen Porsche aus und muss sich dann mit Software Problemen herum ärgern ‼️😏
Ich höre von so vielen Porsche Besitzern, die extreme Probleme haben, mit ihren Autos, wegen der Software und Batterien, die sich innerhalb von ungefähr 3 Wochen selbst entladen... weil die ganze Elektronik wohl, während das Auto in der Garage steht, Strom verbrauchen.
Ich glaub, könnte ich mir ein Auto leisten, ich würde ein älteres Modell nehmen... ohne so viel Digitalisierung, Nannys, Bevormundung und dem ständigen Gepiepe, wegen jedem Mist 😕
992 Turbo S and Taycan owner here (previous Cayenne, GT4, 992 GTS)… the PCM is excellent and I’ve had zero issues. Agree with having a warranty for the outrageous costs of service, but fortunately I have had little need for any repairs
@@JVMP58 you’re delusional. just compare an MB forum and Rennlist, not hard to distinguish which one is way less reliable. I owned an W222 S Class for 3 yrs and had literally zero issues. never needed the warranty, parts were expensive but at least they were durable. porsche are just rebranded vw, you’ll use the same plastic vacuum pump which needs to be replaced at every 50k miles. i’m not saying it nor I’ve changed mine, just look at rennlist. we have 3000 page thread for an errant battery, but yeah, I trust you these are ‘reliable’ cars.
@@imBugra Delusional? No, I’m speaking from experience, and after owning and racing over 40 cars that’s my perspective. If by MB you’re referring to Mercedes, they are currently 29th out of 30 on Consumer Reports reliability rating while Porsche sits at number 8. Cheers to facts over Internet forums…
@JVMP58 that’s where you’re being delusional. you can’t compare two entirely different brands with their reliability index. MB is quite reliable in their flagship vehicles. most of the cabs in Europe are MB, much popular than even the Japanese brands. we’re comparing cayenne/panamera to s class/g class/gle/gls here. that would be an equal comparison. I’ve seen many 1mil+ km mercs but rarely a 100k+ miles porsche, the resell value is dead.
Digitalization is not a problem when you know how to do it, like Tesla. Traditional OEM's are still on a steep digitalization learning curve. They still make up for it with perfection in everything else.
i like the normal badge better.
My name is Bert, this Panamera is the best one.
This IS the true V8 🥵
with fake sounds
Can we drive while raising the suspension?
Nice to have a car that runs 300+ kmt in a country with 80kmt for a speed limit
You are crazy 🤣 such a beauty even more in person
That's a good speck rely nice car for sure
Seeing the center screen just turn off randomly like that, is part of the reason I'm not too keen on this "digitizing everything" trend that car manufacturers are embarking on.
Daai ding Motor ou maat💥
I Love It! (the car) ❤
I love the car, and I absolutely love Audi, but there is just *too much* four-ring vibe happening here. And that fake exhaust note is horrible! Thank you for yet another amazing video.
I think the same about the design comparison with the Pre-facelift!
BPM in the Netherlands...?
Beautiful car
This but with the Taycan’s front would be amazing
“doing the worm”?!😂
I have one of these on order, so this video was enjoyable to see. Shame about the fake engine noises, but I guess with the exhaust being so quiet now, something is needed for a little feedback. I have the previous Turbo S e-hybrid. Not a better daily four-door, four-seater car.
Thinking about buying this car. How was the reliability of your last Turbo S e-hybrid?
@gordongraham2817 You ask at a coincidental time. It has been perfect. It is mindblowing to drive. Extremely smooth and comfortable at slow speeds, and when a windy road allows, it can be pushed for more exciting drives. I can imagine people saying that it is a little emotionless to drive. That is because it combines effortless, luxury, and masses of capability; it is always within its comfort zone. You have to compare it side by side with other cars to appreciate it. I drove 100 miles in the Panamera to test drive a DB12. The Aston had an amazing interior but the drive was mute in comparison with the Panamera. Driving back home, I realised how nice is the steering feel, and the response of the engine. I have a Ferrari FF, and thought the Panamera was the lesser car. Now I realise I have the two best four seaters. For reliability, perfect. The only issue is it seems the Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tyres are extremely soft and wear very, very quickly. You have to use N-marked tyres for warranty sakes. I'll investigate Continentals for the next tyre. At this moment, the car is with Porsche to investigate an engine rumble at idle. I think when the battery is depleted, the car wants to use the engine to stop start but cannot. Nothing that I am concerned about. We use the Cayenne Turbo S e-hybrid, the same powertrain, for European tours, and it is 100% dependable. It is up snowy mountains to flooded roads and just works. I don't need to baby it like a Ferrari.
@@Spenny909 Thanks! I've driven the Ferarri FF, that's a great car. I'm considering getting a 972 Turbo S or a Cayenne Turbo GT, can't decide which one to get. Love how the new Panamera Turbo S looks and drives, and can be fully electric too, but don't want it at the shop with problems all the time. Will probably get the Panamera because I like the lower seating position more, and it feels and drives like a 992 in that aspect. But the Turbo GT looks great too, especially in PTS trim. Will be a hard decision. Thoughts?
@gordongraham2817 Porsche came back to me. I need to change the spark plugs. I often say the service interval of 2 years is too long.
I viewed a Cayenne Turbo GT last week. They look amazing. Slightly smaller boot and one less seat in the back versus a Turbo S, which is why I don't have one. The 5-seater Cayenne is for holidays around the continent and I don't want to compromise on space. The Turbo GT handles slightly better than the Turbo S, but you can feel the ride height. No matter how well it sticks to a corner, it is that shift in body weight in the seat that gives away what you are driving. If you want a sporty feel, the ride height is very important and I would say go for the Panamera. The Cayenne Turbo GT would be a lot of fun, but if you had the two cars, it would be the Panamera that you take on those nice long drives. The Cayenne wins for all-round utility, being able to shrug off holes, hills, water, and snow, while still being enjoyable to drive. The space inside the Panamera and the Turbo GT is about the same. There will be more grunt and exhaust noise with the latter.
My only complaint about this car is the piano black console. Would definitely wrap plastic wrap around that every time the car goes to service...
Sooo which VW is it really underneath? x)
I’m not a huge fan of the revised front end, but it works with a darker colour, when it’s in white, silver or something like that it looks awful lol. This aventurine green or whatever it’s called is a beautiful paint colour.
for the autobahn 🗣BLAAAAST!!
Uauá Panamera 😊😊😂
Which painting is this?
wait so you cant get the turbo s without the hybrid system?
Yes it's hybrid only, as is the non-S version. But who knows, maybe Porsche will make a Turbo S (non-hybrid) or a Turbo GT at some point...... or maybe not, due to modern emissions regulations.
At least you can still get the GTS which is pure V8, but I think that's only around 500hp.
@@DanielSadjadian true a turbo gt without a hybrid system would be golden a super comfy car that would sound,accelerate and turn even better
@@uranzajmi6466 agreed, it would be great because this hybrid tech is very heavy. Perhaps it would be comparable to the M5 CS in the way it handles/etc...
@@DanielSadjadian there will most likely be a turbo GT version, its becoming the new top end model over the turbo S. the Taycan has a turbo GT weisach model thats more expensive and faster then the turbo S
so they don't call this the turbo S e hybrid anymore? People say this is expensive and it's true, but if you discount inflation...this car is actually mind-bendingly cheap considering all the features and the performance
my favorite
I'm a Bimmer guy, but would definitely cheat with this Panny.
"For an Autobahn Blast"
So cool i want to have one
Better than new m5
The previous version looks better but it is still a pretty car. A way better as what bmw does to its new cars!
The last model is best
The bother of having to plug the car in though. Nah id go GTS
And tune to 600hp 😊
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Are you going to test GTS?
Max doesn't exclaim "HOLY MOLY!!!" anymore:(
Yupp i agree. The previous was nicer imo
12:37 full throtle why it doesnt shift back 1 more? from 2700 just it jumps up to 3800.. disappointed
I wonder if the auto industry will focus on analog creations in the future in the same way the watch industry pivoted to mechanical watches after the quartz crisis basically took over the affordable market.
No one would refuse a Porsche
Who doesnt want their nose to lift when you accelerate 😂
Previous gen most definitely look better
Michelin tires, the best in the world.
Looks like a Charger w/Temu front end mod kit
Manual mode is on the steering wheel in new porsches
What in the ford puma
Got a steadicam!
Damn…..not bad.
Nice, except for the spoiler.
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