The INSANITY of Robots in Disguise
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ต.ค. 2024
- Summarizing every episode of Robots in Disguise 2001 (RID 2001) in a random way. Also a general review of the show with many memes included.
Clips are from Robots in Disguise 2001 & 2015 (RID 2015) and Transformers Prime.
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Actually there are three Robots in disguise series. Car Robots, an IDW comic book series, and the 2015 cartoon.
Say, could you do a video comparing how on average, Autobot-Human Relations are positive in the cartoons and anime while things are far more hostile in the comics and live-action movies? The only exceptions for the latter category are the mini crossovers with stories like Star Trek, G I Joe, Ghostbusters, Back To The Future, and even My Little Pony. I mean, the Marvel and IDW Comics start with the interesting premise of humanity hating all sides in the war that’s killing them, but they never really change their stance towards the Autobots.
How many times in those comics and in the movies have the Autobots fought and in some cases died for humanity? How many times have the Autobots demonstrated restraint while the Decepticons commit slaughter with happiness? Even in IDW when humanity joins the Council of Worlds, there is no real changing of public opinion until Unicron and Soundwave crying over Mainframe’s death. We never get to see Cybertronians and humans interact peacefully without hating each other the whole time. Heck, IDW 2019 and Skybound easily get points because we see positive relations between Autobots and Organics that are the rule and not rare exceptions in their universes.
The cartoons and anime rarely if ever try to explore hostile relations between Autobots and humans, but I take no issue with that because we get positive stuff. In the comics and movies, we mostly just keep seeing humans trying to kill potential friends and it annoys me.
Ah yes, the true RiD. The one where they call out the most ridiculous attacks for everyone to hear, a shark has an identity crisis, and a car gets involved in a sexual harassment and stalking case with another car.
I don't get why some TF fans get hung up on the calling attacks thing. It's been a staple of the super robot genre since Mazinger Z and Devilman introduced it. It's not unique to Car Robots in any way, despite everyone getting their info from the TFWiki which often mocks anything uniquely Japanese. Just watch more classic super robot series.
@@KazuyaMithra I still say: "Turbo Backfire," " Combustion Missiles." and "Blizzard Storm" till this day.
Sometimes in later shows that followed this one they announce their attacks as well.
@@KazuyaMithra I imagine it's mainly because it just feels kinda goofy. Like yeah, that kind of loud, bombastic shennaniganery is a staple of these types of action based anime in general. But for some people that just doesn't vibe with them, and that's fine.
@@thebrutalistboi1846 It's not a fault of the show, or something uniquely 'wrong' with it. It's the viewer's lack of exposure to a certain subgenre that shapes that view. Which is okay, if its just a matter of personal taste.
Literally every super robot show has the characters announce the name of their attacks, at some point you become so used to it that mentioning it is redundant, lol
BARAGE ATTACK
That trope is not exclusive to super robot animes and it actually started with a baseball manga called Astro Kyudan lmao
I absolutely *LOVED* RID, and I still do. Yes, the Predacons were goofy, Sky Byte was hilarious, and Ultra Magnus was a blueprint for TFA Sentinel Prime, but that’s what makes it special in my optics, and in my spark.
Grow up. RID was a bad dub and anyone who likes it is nothing but a fanboy. 🙄🙄
Agree to disagree, Rising Storm. I liked the original (which was Car Robots) more than I did the English dub (RID).
@@TechnotroniksVT Fair enough.
What's funny is ultra magnus here has better morals than sentinel because at least he never made a deal with decepticons to make like he caught them just to get a little praise nor is he a bigot towards organic life 😅
In hindsight I find it funny that this is basically a Transformers adaptation of Brave Exkaiser. Which is doubly hilarious when you remember the origin of that series.
Really? What's the origin of that series?
@vaggos2003 Basically after Transformers Victory, TF began to lose steam in Japan. So while they were working on Zone, Sunrise approached Takara and wanted to make a new toyline and an anime with them, and thus the Brave series was born.
Also fun fact: the Raker Brothers from Exkaiser were originally intended to be a Transformers toy.
Brave was made to answer the hasbro not wanting to make transformers figures the takara side of the market was interested in, so they made Brave. I do agree Car Robots was just them reintegrating design philosophes back into the transformers however.
True. Didn't watched excaiser, but construction team from brave police j-decker felt almost as copy of autobot construction team from rid 2001
This is the most Brave Series transformers ever made that South Korea rebranded it to be a Brave Series show. Basically Everything transformers post Brave with Japanese involvement in the production took after the Brave Series
Two of my favorite moments in this show r as follows. #1: Where someone stops the hologram character by covering up her mouth.
#2: Where sideburn tells a sob story about when he was a little blue tricycle and fell in love with a red tricycle when he was younger and that they got separated and that's why he keeps going after a red cars.
It is even called out that he's purposely making it up because he's not an actual machine and Cybertronians are alive and don't go through life cycles in a metamorphosing process and are fully functional once completely online. Sideburn even directly taunts that of course he made it up just to get a reaction out of the predacons because he's trying be painful so that they'll lose their temper and try to fight him where he would just escape.
Honestly takes some serious guts and confidence to give away your entire game plan just to troll someone because you know they're already going to hurt you or try to kill you so you should go out making it as painful and long lastingly so as possible. He does so without fear or hesitation either so it's honestly hilarious just how much he doesn't care anymore.
Also, it's one of the more incompetent characters who comes to the realization/doesn't fall for the story in the first place. I believe it's actually the Starscream punching bag furry equivalent, Darkscream if I recall correctly who calls out everyone else for giving into the trolling. All the more reason why I love those characters.😸
My sister forced me into watching it and I have never been happier. The characters are the greatest part about it! We watch it for the silliness of it. It’s something to turn our brains off to.
W sister
As someone that is new to the whole TF world. Glad that channels like yours is around. Thank you!
Transformers RiD 2001, together with Transformers Armada, Energon and Cybertron are my favourite shows of all time! I simply love them!
Energon, Really? Can you explain why?
@@arrwen0885 there is no explanation my friend... I just like it... Giant transforming robots who punches other giant transforming robot? Cool
High respect for your taste
Megatron's design here with the 6 and then 10 forms is awesome to me
rid 2015 is far worse then 2001, at least the old one doesn't try to take it self seriously while simultaneously ruining the ending of a better show lol
Yeah, that's true.
Freaking adore Optimus in this show, HE IS SO HEROIC, BAD ASS BUT ALSO PRETTY LOVEABLE & CUTE, love how he constantly quips during the fights, his brotherhood with Magnus & of course:
*HIS AMAZING SUPER-POWER OF IGNORING THE LAWS OF GRAVITY*
"You don't even bother to say hello anymore?"
It maybe an insane show but, i love The Autobot Brothers, Team Bullet Train, and The Spy Changers. Also, I love that version of Megatron and Optimus.
I discovered this show when i came home from school high school in Dallas, Texas and it came on on Fox Kids afternoon line up, and i was hooked.
In Japan, this was part of the original Transformers continuity, with the cybertronians coming from the time period of Beast Wars. Fortress Maximus from this series traveled to the Master star system in Kiss Players and was the basis for the Fortress Maximus from Headmasters.
This show is also called Car Robots… there’s the distinction. Something not covered here is that Car Robots was meant to be to continue the Japanese G1 continuity after all previous series. Optimus Prime was Fire Convoy, Megatron was Gigatron, and Ultra Magnus was God Magnus.
In fairness, stealing an energy resource was the overarching plot of G1 too.
And this in Japan was the same continuity so in a few years after all the transformers return to their time in somewhere near beast wars the 86 movie happens
1:28 Timmy Turner's Dad Mr. Turner /// Cosmo { Fairly Odd Parents }
I fucking hate that I can hear it
J. JONAH JAMESON
Also Knock Out (from Transformers Prime)
Don't forget Jorgan von Strangle: The Toughest Fairy in the Universe.
Fun Fact: the original series Car Robots that RID 2001 was based on is part of the japanese G1 continuity along Headmasters, SuperGod Masterforce, Victory & the Zone OVA
Optimus CRIME!!!
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Defying the laws of gravity since the original movie. Then again here in this series where it was first called out. Then again in Prime. In Animated he defied the laws of matter and special dimensions though just punching out of Swindle from a ground bridge Warp.😅
@@tylertichoc7330 This Optimus was supposed to be an entirely different character and originally wasn't even Optimus, but a character named Fire Convoy, or Fire Prime.
Why does this translate to best crime?
Yes! A video from you on this show!!! Rid01 is genuinely my favourite depiction of transformers, one of my collecting goals is straight up to complete the line. I’m in around episode 25 or so of the show and am absolutely loving it! It’s by far my favourite tf series
If you like dry transformers voice acting comedy, I enjoyed the episode of a really old transformers animated series where the Autobot Gears was abducted and had a personality module removed by the decepticons. This made him a nicer personality, until Megatron asked him to perform a simple object moving task. Gears replies calmly 'Why certainly Megatron, you worthless hunk of scrap.' and then proceeds to carryout the task.😂😂 If any decepticon had said that, they'd be salvage parts.
This show had one of the coolest Optimus Prime designs, just not used by Optimus Prime.
This show was part of My Childhood.
I used to watch it on TH-cam when i was a kid, skybite Will always be My favorite character from that show.
I love how they decided to make the Cyberverse iteration of his character just an exact copy from this series but instead being the direct rival enemy of Jetfire from Armada instead. That was a pretty cool and genius idea having essentially a crossover between two characters who were both flamboyant cocky show offs with soft and caring emotional sides to them from two completely different Continuities.😅
I just realized I never finished it I need to get back to watching it
RID 2001 was a fun series and I enjoyed it alot. It did get better for the latter half of the series. Wish it continued because I feel there was more backstory that we aren't aware of.
Also, RID 2015 should have been called Beast Hunters, since the robot mode of the Decepticons were more beast-like.
Yay! New Emperor Kumquat video!
This version feels like a weird slice of life, pokemon, magical girl school anime without the school, without magical girls and more robots
Ultra magnus is always a jerk in every version.
This version has too many moments of the autobots kidnapping children😂
I think the weirdest fact about this show (besides its relationship with 9/11) is the fact it's owned by Disney. They bought the library of the studio that did the dub and haven’t let go of it since. They let go of some shows, but not this one, the one they can’t do anything with.
Lmfao?????
And what do you mean it's relationship with 9/11 💀
@@DrCocofruit
Censorship galore and what basically amounts to the early 4kids treatment.
If there was too much urban destruction, the episode was trimmed or recut to remove it.
Fun fact, this show is basically just Brave Exkaiser, the first of the Brave series of anime, but with a more obvious Transformers coat of paint.
For those who don't know: The Brave series starting with Exkaiser are a series of anime created as a joint venture between Takara and Sunrise (Gundam). The shows are your typical Saturday Morning Cartoon/Monster of the Week fair but all of them are pretty fun.
13:51 those lovely lips on Megatron
Kumquat is a rid2001 hater :/
Who could anyone hate tow-"no parking means no parking!"-line!
8:29 I thought that was the Actual voice actor for a minute
I am currently watching this show because when I was little my grandpa had a DVD of this in his house and it's incredibly nostalgic
I've been watching afew days. Still on episode 4 i think. I go like kelly she was potrayed by felice sampler i even had some spy changer toys. Lost them when kids tossed em under one is their house. It was a mentale scar I'll never heal.
I almost bought a spychanger sideburn and didn’t and have regretted it since. I hope he found a good home 😭
This show is genuinely so unintentionally funny I can’t help but love it.
But the humor is intentional! Car robots was also a comedic show!
Unintentional? This was the era where kids anime dubs frequently added ad libbed humor. Look at the Duel Masters dub.
I think, even that was better, than RID 2015 (in my opinion). At least, these three brothers were cute.
Watched it all once in a bunch and I fuckinf love it I can't wait to rewatch it
At least we can all agree that RID 2001 had far better toys than RID 2015, and isn't that what's all about in the end?
Literally infinity better than that HORRID tfp “sequal”
Kumquat is just a hater!
This is more memorable than RID2015, I legit struggle to remember moments that aren’t summarizing major season plot that gets reset once the seasons over
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X-Brawn’s little *dang!* is perfect.
I love this show so much better than 2015
_Robots In Disguise_ (2001) is my second favorite Transformers series. Anyone *not* wanting to watch me go full fanboy over it, skip the rest of this post. XD
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I first watched it as a kid in college e.g. legally an adult. I went to the trouble of purchasing the Region 2 release of the series, since there wasn't a box set for it here in North America. Before having to sell them due to financial and personal issues, I owned a good chunk of RiD01 toys, including splurging for a the Korean release of this series' Fortress Maximus. I also had Megatron Megabolt, a figure originally designed for the _Beast Machines_ series but released as part of RiD01, and which could serve as an alternate head for Fort Max (as in it was engineered that way!). Though the best examples of the toyline - besides that - are the Spychangers and Omega Prime. The Spychangers are just small, simple Transformers designed to be compatible with Hot Wheels style playsets, but the animation claimed they were ninjas and yes please. Omega Prime is the combined form of RiD Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus, and he's glorious. He has light and sound gimmicks that are designed to change based on whether you've got just Optimus, just Ultra Magnus, just Optimus in his armored up form, or the two of them together as Omega Prime... *and it doesn't detract from the transformation or poseability!*
Yes, the toyline is relevant. It is part of what makes RiD01 so good, though one *can* still enjoy just the show on its own. Still, the toyline was a crazy mix of new molds and reused ones from as far back as G1 (if you count molds from G1 that were retooled and used in G2). While RiD01 continued the tradition of toys for characters who never made it into the show, the reason for it here is because this stopgap measure was a *massive* success. The toys sold well and stores wanted more product; not just more of the stuff they'd already sold, but new figures as well. So Hasbro grabbed whatever they thought would work and/or was easy. The only reason I had to go for a Korean Fortress Maximus is because the North American release for the figure was canceled due to it not surviving certain then-modern safety tests; the demand was there otherwise!
For a slapdash project only released to buy time for _Transformers Armada_ to be ready, RiD01 has an unusual amount of *heart* to it. Well, heart and/or nerdy in-jokes that referenced other _Transformers_ series.
*Two prime examples:*
1)Slapper complaining "What are we? Vehicon Drones?" when Sky-Byte takes credit for a Predacon group effort
2)The race car Skid-Z scanned was driven by Auggie Cahnay, the same name of the victory obsessed human race car driver in the G1 episode "Trans-Europe Express".
While not every character stands out or is "the" version of that character, at the very least Scourge and Sky-Byte became iconic. In G1, we had an evil copy of Optimus Prime *and* a rival Decepticon semi-tractor trailer in darker colors (Motormaster), so the role Scourge fills didn't begin with him. It also didn't end with him, as the black repaint of Optimus Prime is almost a given in the toyline (and sometimes the associated fiction), though Hasbro realized he deserved a name of his own and thus we got the Nemesis Prime trope. Sky-Byte has been reused far, far less. I think only Cyberverse for cartoons. Still, they retroactively added him to G1/G2 lore in comics.
The overarching plot isn't brilliant, but it *is* there and can be followed. I mean, back in the day it would have been even trickier; due to 9/11 happening, episodes were pulled from there intended slots to be redone because no one was sure what would freak out kids. Like holding up a collapsing building. >.> RiD2001 was my favorite series until _Transformers: Animated._ Which I wanted to mention because it establishes my tastes. I can understand why RiD2001 just wasn't for someone who loved (as opposed to simply "liked") Transformers: Prime. I'll probably rewatch Prime (and even 2015) again at some point in my life, because I'll probably attempt an all-encompassing watch/rewatch of Transformers one day, but outside of that... maybe for Knockout's best moments, or because a friend/family member enjoys it and wants to watch with me.
(I've watched G1, RiD2001, and TFA multiple times through already, and probably will keep doing so periodically).
With RID being your 2nd favorite ever heard of the Brave Series?
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer Yes. I need to watch it sometime, but I haven't yet. ^^'
@@KamisamanoOtaku You'll enjoy it when you get the time, least I hope so
After being exposed to the live action series this was one of the first TF shows I saw [thank you 2011 youtube]
I am a sky-byte fan until I die
In the Latam Dub, Sky-Byte mentions that not even her Grandma said nice things about him.
Is character death is a dumb way to advance the plot? Make big mistakes that sit on the character's minds for years, like breaking the space bridge to almost beyond repair
Yeah, what's this about its necessary for characters to die in a story in order for it to be good?
Regardless The fate all the preadacons but one suffer is much more horrifying then death. being trapped in the phantom zone-like prison, unable to escape or die, trapped in an empty void where the only thing they can do is scream helplessly for the rest of eternity.
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 if no one dies or are even slightly at risk of dying there are no stakes
@@Blanktester685The predacons Being imprisoned in a hellish dimension for the rest of eternity with no chance of escape if they fail seems like a pretty big stakes. On the other hand ir the autobots fail, Gigatron will take control of Brave Maximus and control all of space and time. Sounds like pretty big stakes to me.
Liked and favorited for when i come home from work. Fucking LOVED RID as a kid.
Kumquat finally makes a video essay about rid2001/car robots. Hopefully they make one for each rid2015 video eassy they make.
This show is its own abridged series, and I will not be convinced otherwise.
Lmao the clips you showed are (probably accidentally like you said) hilarious! I would love such a parody show about robots in disguise having goofy adventures
Kelly is one of my favorite human characters
Tbh i prefer this over the 2015 series bc at least i can enjoy this. The 2015 one only made me confused.
@4:20 The tracks are provided via the Global Space Bridge. I'm _not_ saying that makes sense, but that's the catch-all explanation for how everyone drives everywhere and anywhere in the series. Oh, and this series establishes nearly every Autobot has a "day job" where they pretend to be a normal vehicle as part of working with humanity and staying - *wait for it* - robots in disguise. XD
14:51
Ok this is straight up Aligned Continuity bias. There is no way any other Transformers fan would rather watch RID15 over RID01 or worse yet recommend it over 2001. It's stuff like this that makes me less and less interested in the Aligned Continuity despite my nostalgia for the mediocrity that is Prime. And I actually like RID15 even if a tiny bit
You're right. I just wish RID 2015 had more redeeming parts to it, that made it like Prime.
This video feels like it was made because kumquat was tired of people saying rid2001 is better rid2015 so they made a hit piece on 2001 so people would stop referencing it.
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 That is so invalid, bro. Like I'm not gonna say RID 2015 is better because it isn't.
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242that’s… pretty crappy reason, get fans hyped up with the video with mixed feelings only to just say it’s eh at best. Should’ve opened with their feelings if it was gonna be like that to set the expectations for the rest of the video
rid mentiond less goooo,some may have g1 others may have bayverse,but my goldmine is rid 2001
We are getting a car numberplate with SKYBYTE on it. He is just glorious. Just as silly as Waspinator. 😂
keep in mind, English dub removed 12 episodes which includes controversal tower falldown episode.
JP called this show as Car Robot and it originally has 51 episodes.
No it didn't, it had 39 episodes, the same as RiD. The recap episodes were entirely different but there were the same number of them, and no other episode was entirely skipped (unless you count the ones that didn't air on US television because post-9/11, but those are part of the 39).
Oh my gosh is knockout in both versions actually voiced by the same guy!?
Edit: I think it actually is the same voice actor, According to Google at least, that's kinda cool actually
XD the swim swim swim swim swim uh oh clip from Episode 15 was kinda funny ngl
1:25 I like it how they added what past knockout in this show cuz he’s ever rarely mentioned in the other RID show
i just love this show because of how goofy it is
2:42
😂Lol
Your not wrong about the *Brain Rawting*
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I definitely did not spell that correctly 😅
3:45
Yooo WTF!!!
That Kid easily got Kidnapped!!!
4:57
NOOOOO WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO US?!?! 😭
11:14
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I hope there's an actual Video of this Popping Music. 🎶
13:30
Damb that's Flagging Depressing.
7:38 tf wiki is hands down the best part of the fanbase. It’s genuinely so fun to read through and you can fall into so many dumb tangents.
RID, the transition period between several years of Hasbro using Canadian animation to just dubbing while japanese series.
Hasbro dubbed Car Robots because Beast Machines underperformed and cancelled the Transtech toyline, after RID 2001 Hasbro & Takara decided to work together on the Unicron trilogy and after that they both went back to doing their own thing
I'll take RiD 2001 over Prime any day. Better robot designs, more upbeat, and Sky-Byte.
Certainly knew how to have fun and it had some decent drama and excitement, Galvatron holding earth’s children hostage with his cyberbats is pretty terrifying… shoot Takara used a similar plot 9 years prior in the Brave series and both are equally terrifying in how much control the villains had on the situation
3:17 - 3:39 Ok, at first when I was 12 or so I didn't even think about it. But now it looks creepy. It seems that the creators of this anime thought that this moment would not be so stupid for viewers as it is a kid show, so nothing bad will happen to a main character.
Swim swim swim ughh no swim swim swim nooo swim swim swim dang it
Honestly, Car Robots is the better version of this and it's one of the most slept on Transformers shows.
Super turbo punch being a straight up haymaker to Megatron's jaw(s?) sent me lmao
this show was something i watched when i was very young, did not know what it even was called until years later, fond memories
4:58 My boy Optimus is putting Caseoh to shame.
TOWLINE IS NOT PATRICK STAR HE JUST WANTS TO DO HIS JOB 🤧😭
Prime is cheeked up in this show. 💀💀💀
Primus damn!
fun fact: in the spanish dub, optimus shares voice actors with captain hero from drawn together.
there's also a bit of dialogue and regional latino american jokes with sky-byte unique to that dub.
2:33 naaaah, optimus really screamed in lowercase right there
This show rocks. It’s just fun
The art style reminds me of transformers armada so imma check it out,thanks for showing me it exists
2000s!RiD Transformers anime ≈ Digimon Adventure
BOTH the same Japanese Music songwriters and USA voice cast !!!
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Hi,
Cool video!
Honestly, I’ve never really known what to think of this series, but I had a good laugh at several moments.😅
Personally, this series is a bit like (metaphorically) a pizza where someone thought it would be a good idea to add sour candies on top of the cheese and ham. At first, it's unexpected, even fun, but after eating too much of it, you end up with a stomach ache and a sugar rush that hits your brain so hard you start wondering if you're high.😵💫So, it's tough to recommend it to someone else.😂
i still have a dvd of this to this day man skybite was my selling point yes it was troy baker doing the voice
I was honestly laughing during every episode 😂
cant believe you didnt mention fortress maximus' canonical email address
Is this the one where they turned Starscream into a badass? A swordsman that protected minicons and fought agains Megatron not to take the leadership, but to stop a foolish conflict?
No. Try Transformers Armada .
@@michaelpytel3280 thanks for clarification
love the vids continue your great work
When i was a kid it was genuinely difficult for me to tell the difference between RID and Armada. then again, that was before i had glasses and i was usually playing when it was on, sooo... i guess i was more listening to transformers than watching it as a tyke. 😅
RID my beloved
Megatron can not just stop turning into galvatron like in the unicron trilogy turned into him like 3 times and nobody referenced it 😂 at this point I am thinking he just got super amnesia or something.
3:08 Sounds like a horrific WWII story 🤣
I have yet to watch this show, i need to watch it sometime. I’m still getting through armada and cyberverse
Episode 7: Side Burn has the exact opposite reaction from the one my friend would in that situation. :P
4:32 nice use of another kids show music for this one. Nice setup.
I bet sky byte has the goldfish personality
I absolutely adore Skybyte the most ❤
We did get Knock Out in Robots in Disguise, just the wrong one. Agony
I recall watching this show but I never got around to finishing it (probably hit that point in my life where I started falling off the bandwagon with a lot of shows). I don't remember much aside from the flying shark and the fire intro music though lol
2:55 Yo they put the flag of St Vincent and the Grenadines on a show! altought it's design is reversed, twice
skybyte was my brother's and my fave char hands down
we don't wathc it for the charaters we watch it for the funnyness
Skybyte, Scourge, ultra magnus, and towline are peak. I have no idea way kumquat is such a hater.
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Yesss
In the Japanese G1 timeline, Tow-line loses his memories and becomes evil.
It's werid that Japan retconned this show into G1. It's odd that Combaticons has 2 different clones within the same timeline.
retconned? It came out in 2000. Rid 2001 is just dub of car robots 2000. And it's sequel to beast wars neo or something.
@AIFT_Staff the answer be very complicated. In America, it's a stand-alone show. In Japan, it's somehow take place in the turn of the millennium when the G1 cast was too injured to be available on Earth due to some obscure Manga explaining why they weren't involved of the events of Japanese version of RID. Also, the entire cast are time-travelers from the far far future.
Retconned? It was part of the setting in the beginning
Wait i didnt realize siege ultra magnus was just RID ultra magnus 😮