Light novel readers do know though, that spider was insane from the very start. I don't think there was exactly a descent into madness here. That would imply that it had human sanity to begin with. She was nuts from the very start. If you want an argument for why she went nuts completely, it has to be her pride skill. The spoilers on that would be that the rulers of seven deadly sins and seven heavenly virtues skills have tendencies towards psychosis of some kind. In the anime, she becomes the ruler of pride and a heretic also. Getting all those demon Lord titles and abyss magic stuff couldn't have been good on her mind.
Kumoko murders without a second thought because of her ruler skill "pride". Its effect is that makes the holder to view other living things as exp. All ruler skills have a soul corrosion effect but after aquiring perseverance and heresy nulity, this soul corrosion stoped progressing.
I read somewhere that all the skills in this world have a similar effect, where the skill changes someone’s personality to match it. That’s why the teacher told the other isekaied students to not get more skills if they could help it.
Highly reccomend the LN. Her sanity and morales are being talked about and even explained. Otherwise great video. Many people are going to share your opinion most likely.
I'm pretty sure (well at least in the wl) that after the fight with the army of monkeys she got a title [merciless] and it's effect was that she doesn't feel guilt anymore, basically making her desensitized to killing yea
@@axen7711 It's the Pride skill. It messes with your mind into thinking that everything is nothing more than an a EXP container to be popped open like a gooey prize box. All the Sin Skills have a mind altering trait except for Gluttony and Sloth... except when Ariel notices that Sloth skill users have a tendency to want to slouch around all day as they work themselves to death.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 as I said, the title [merciless] is why she doesn't feel any GUILT in killing, I never said that Pride didn't have it's own effect
Ronandt mentioned in the Light novels when he saw kumoko's parallel mind's spartan training that you need to abandon all sanity if you wanted to survive in the great elroe labyrinth
@@RedwoodTheElfif you run the numbers, the slime got equally powerful in a rough amount of time equivalent to what the spider did. She gets her Arachne form by the end of two years in that world. Sophia karen, the vampire progenitor is still a toddler whenever Wakaba is an arachnid with stats second only to the demon Lord. If you don't call that speed leveling what is it?
@@craigwheeler4760in slime he basically sits around most of the time with far and few action scene while in kumo desu ga she starts from the bottom struggles wayyy more
@@RedwoodTheElf i mean she helps non-asshole humans (most of the time, at least at that point of the story anyway, and as of volume 11 her plan will help the planet in the long run so it's worth it lol)
Here's my reasons on why kumoko went mad: 1. She was constantly bullied before she died 2. She had no friends to psychology coup with loneliness after death 3. She was hunted by anything and everything her only comfort the voices in her head 4. She was given taboo knowledge not meant for anyone short of being an administrator 5. Her own mother wants her dead Can you honestly say you'd stay sane under these conditions ??? Nope my ass already on the other side of sanity if I was put in her shoes with my current mentality I'd get worse hell I'd start killing as soon as I hatch because I know I probably won't be given the best stats and grinding usually the best way to get better stats
@@john_carlo_manabat9961 haven't read the manga yet no spoilers please I'm currently trying to find somewhere to get the manga series a friend of mine said Amazon is a bad place to get manga books because he order six different books and all of them where badly damaged on arrival
Well you try to live in a pitch black cave of nothingness for months with no one to talk to. If anything I think she's taking this whole craziness rather well.
Late to this, but I liked this video. I am a light novel reader so there is a lot more information later. But I also don't think you need that context to understand the basics of her mindset. From the info we get in the anime, we see that she was a socially maladjusted outcast on Earth whose primary interaction with other people was being bullied. Before she even gets to the new world, she has a fundamental disconnect with humanity. And then she wakes up in an actual nightmare of death, cannibalism, and body horror. She learns very quickly that she cannot hold back anything if she wants to survive. If she hesitates in battle, she gets a face full of acid. If she tries to take it easy and stay in her house, humans come and burn it down. If she finds an easy monster on its own, she can't take it lightly cuz it might be part of a huge hoard of monkeys that will stop at nothing to get revenge. Even when she is strong enough that humans aren't a threat, if she hesitates, they burn her house down. It's either 100% effort focused on survival or she's dead. Combine that with her extremely hyperactive internal dialogue and a literal fracturing of her consciousness, you'll get a pretty unique personality with some interesting views on morality. Using the dnd alignment chart, I'd say that, in the anime, she's pretty solidly in the Chaotic Neutral zone. She looks out for herself, doing anything necessary to further her spontaneous goals with no regard for others laws, morals, desires, etc. In the LN she ultimately feels more like Chaotic Good, but it's right on the border. Kumoko is one of my favorite protagonists, especially in the isekai genre. And a big part of that is her really unique morality and mindset. She's terrifying due to her lack of empathy combined with her insane power. Her equal lack of malice adds an extra bit of interest.
I dont think kumoko was sane in the first place, afterall kumoko wasnt even human before. She had the memories of 'wakaba' but she was a spider. That was also the reason for why she wasnt able to speak properly. Im not sure if it was shown that kumoko was a spider in the anime but in the LN, kumoko was
not that wakaba had any moral or was in anyway a good upstanding person , the part of her that is d of doing what she wants and the fake shinines still impact her end personality
While I do agree with your analysis of Kumoko's mentality, there is one fragment of very important information you left out regarding her actions after first leaving the labyrinth. Remember, before she left the labyrinth, Kumoko had unlocked Taboo and gained its knowledge of how the world will end, which included the evils of the world that needed to be eradicated in order to prevent the apocalypse. With that constantly in the back of her mind, is it really surprising Kumoko would eliminate anyone who seemed bad without a second thought?
i mean, if you have a bunch of bodys, those powers and are bored i can think of worse ways to spend time trapped in the worlds largest cave system! I can't blame her if this is the case, that's for sure!
you will not regret the Light novels, leagues better than the anime in my opinion! Granted i am typing this 8 months later so you very well might be all caught up by now lol
Besides the fact that her ruler skills effect her both mentally and physically one other reason is because she wasn’t really human , spoilers ,,, She is a spider who’s soul was alter to pass as a human but because of her spider wavelength allow her to be reborn as a spider , same as that vampire girl , the vampire girl is a perfect example also she was allow to become a some what true ancestor of the vampire that once existed on the planet but went extinct due to the dragons , her envy skill warped her personality into a yandare, she was allow to become a vampire because D the evil goddess thought it might be interesting
*spoilers for light novel vol 15* So volume 15 just dropped and after the elf village massacre Mera was so worried that Shiro would start eating dead elves that he offered to make her breakfast. She even caught on to this and had an internal monologue about how she eats her enemies out of respect for them
Yeah also her pride skill kinda made her think of everything as xp . I think it was explained in vol6 of the ln that pride has that affect on the user.
Her sanity was probably what hinted she was the admin D because like they have almost the same mentality as her and as a theory I think her like soul was put into two and one part went into admin D and the other into like her spider form
Spoilers for further on in the series The name of the series gives away a secret about Kumoko. Namely she IS a spider and was a spider on Earth until the classroom got blown up. This isn't a story about her losing her morals, it's about finding them to an extent. sm
that is not the entire story as she also (AGAIN, SPOILERS) was given memories and a part of Administer D's/"Wakaba"'s soul so she could skip working in the underworld as a god
@@jadethescribe he too and not being edgy but litreally me??? Like I too never related with people going over the top about "killing bad people" it always seemed goofy to me
This show it’s so many unique ideas not just having a protagonist as a spider but the idea of multiple people being reincarnated in the same world but into different parents and factions is something I haven’t seen in the other Isak Kai.
This all hinges on believing that killing is wrong which is subjective. It's kind of the point of this story just like Executioner's way of life. I love how the story frames the evil vs good side and how much characters are indoctrinated by whichever side they are on
I don't think I really emphasized this in the video but where I was coming from when I made this video was based in the assumption that Kumoko was a normal human/ had a normal human life before being reincarnated. With that assumption her behavior a certain points in the story is really strange (which is intentional on the story's part). You are definitely right about the whole good vs evil perception thing. It's probable one of the most interesting dynamics in the story.
@@jadethescribe I would really implore you to be cautious with the term "normal" as living in certain ecosystems (where gangs violence is a daily event) could teach a child to live as a survivor. Aladdin is an example as technically he steals and cheats his way to the top and shouldn't even have a chance with Jasmine (as he doesn't even know court etiquette) A really good example of a character learning the royal ropes is the Bibliophile princess. You're absolutely right that Kumoko's mind processes that recognize her game world and what she must do is odd but compare her to Maple from Bofuri and you'll notice it's a survivalist mindset that a gamer has. This mindset is why I know if the Overlord crew were looking to scout from other isekai, They would gladly welcome our Spider Idol. I'm definitely on your side as I see kumoko as "PTSD on meth" since, we see what she goes through and to start your life like a shark baby eating it's kin so it can have the best chance in life is the first lesson to shape her mindset. But she can't be fully crazy since she has that meltdown about being jealous she wasn't a cute vampire baby 🤣 That's why I love kumoko so much, I completely understand her logic and how she knows this reality is just a game and she's going to grind to the top. Shes the kind of person who'll go through the hassle of finding hidden bosses in Final Fantasy games. Normal people don't do that. But this isn't a slice of life, this is a slice of Spider. Imagine if she were a black widow or praying mantis and accidentally beheads all the mates she gets when passionately getting it on, reviving them and then doing it again... She's basically like the grandma from the Dr Tran Toy store short animation. Peak comedy.
Also remember, Kumako's intelligence has been majorly uplifted to human levels of thought and emotion levels. Remember that she WAS a spider in Japan. A real normal spider. All she had to do, in reality, in Japan was to catch insects, liquified the bodies, drink the nutrients, and lay eggs and prepare for them their first food. She knows the humans in the school room exist, but they wouldn't matter to her, because humans are godlike compared to her in her past life. Now she is their superiors. Oh, yes, Kumako is a real spider in Japan. Hope this has opened your eyes.
If anything, she's quite possibly become less cruel in a sense, because if she was still a feral spider she'd probably kill the other humans without a thought.
@@polasamierwahsh421 Sorry for the late story spoiler, but yes Kumoko was an actual spider on Earth. And yes, without the intelligence and personality upgrade she would view everything as food.
Something that LN and Manga readers have missed is that after killing the monkeys she gains the merciless title (shown in status but not explained) which has the effect of negating feelings of guilt. I feel like most people would be capable of killing in a life and death situation but after said situation ends they’d feel guilt. Kumoko can’t which is definitely a large contributing factor to her insanity.
Maybe she became like that because of bad experience inside the labyrinth for too long almost forgot about common sense in human community which makes her a monster.
@@grimdaybreaker Yeah I didn't because it's about the anime adaptation which was airing at the time. I don't believe I claimed to have read the light novels in the video. It was mainly my speculation about what I watched at the time. I'm aware of a lot of later plot points today.
She wasn't in the dungeon for a year she was in it for at least a decade in the anime people mention about the nightmare of the laberynth (which is her) and how long its been since they saw her Particularly this old man who managed to get away from her
Yeah @@Voltaic01 it seems you're right the wiki says at about a year which makes me all the more confused I watched the dub so it may have been a script error then
@RE: NEKO For a while there I didn't know what you were talking about. When I say "demon lord skill" I'm not talking about Ariel lol. I'm referring to the ruler skill as a "demon lord skill". I believe a character called the skills that have to do with sins something like that. Eh but it's not really important lol
@@jadethescribe there is a skill literally called "Demon Lord" Earned by being sufficiently monstrous in behavior, having it makes one a candidate for the "Demon Lord" Title. Ariel has both the title and the skill, while Kumoko has only the Demon Lord Skill. The "Hero" skill and title works the same way. You earn the skill by being heroic, and it makes you a candidate for inheriting the "hero" title. Ironically, Kumoko also earns the hero Skill. The ruler titles and skills are similar, with the main difference is that the ruler skills have to usually be leveled up through a series of lesser versions before you earn the ruler skill, upon which the ruler title is awarded so long as you are the only being to have that skill. if a ruler is still alive, nobody else can level up a ruler skill to max. Ruler skills can also be bought, with the cost calculated based on one's personality, and how much they have leveled up the lesser versions of the skill. Kumoko bought Pride for the bare minimum 100 skill points with no prior grinding by the way. both perseverance and sloth were far more expensive for her. the fifteen ruler skills are based on the seven deadly sins and the seven heavenly virtues, with wisdom being a new one created for Kumoko by D. to reiterate, by the time she kills Araba, Kumoko has Pride, perseverance, wisdom, and sloth. Most people will only ever get one ruler skill before getting killed.
@@MrSailing101 technically most people will never earn, or even learn of ruler skills. Even if the seven deadly sins and heavly virtue skills are known, barely anyone knows about ruler privileges.
Slight LN spoiler but I think at volume 13 or 14 she didn't realize she was friends with somebody even though they've known each other for like 12 years I might be misremembering what happened but it was interesting edit: i know nobody likely cares but i read a few volumes again and this part im talking about is in volume 15 chapter 4 aight bye
i know that part of the reason i am so weird and crazy (in a good way) is to cope with life's struggles, in fact it runs in my family! Also her [Ruler of ____] skills and/or titles effect how she thinks too
something the anime does not really show is the effects of the sin and virtue skills which warp the mind (explained in more detail in the light novels)
this will be spoilers from so i'm a spider , so what. The spoilers will be about the skill pride and about Kumoko just so you know that before reading this. i think this is a great video i just wanted to give some information press read more to se it its some of the seven deadly sins skills that can change how people thing and the skill pride the thing she have makes you think every thing as EXP and another thing it can be is that she is a spider, what i mean is that she was a spider before she got reincarnated and the god D is the real Kumoko
OBVIOUSLY SATIRE rimuru vs kumoko kumoko has 3 voices in her head (well i guess she does lose one by it going to the demon lord's mind and being merged with it soo) rimuru has 1 instant kumoko win
Sorry guys I'm spoil something for you komako is the administrator komako that we know is only a spider of the class leave the memory of the administrator
It's basically a fan-name. Kumo means spider and the -ko ending is for female names. Basically, she's named Spiderette. Also, when she couldn't use magic she thought it would be nice to be "the magical girl Kumoko".
I know this video is old and my words don't really matter, BUT, as a reader of the novels, I can say with confidence that this theory is complete and utter bullshit, she isn't insane in the slightest, the proper word is eccentric
Just a fun little speculative video I made when I was watching the anime while it was airing. Keep in mind I didn't read any of the light novels yet. The video was for fun, nothing super serious.
Well it's probably the effects of taboo i won't spoil it but killing people is good because the person dies and loses memories skills and stats and that is a very good thing for everyone also she probably is valuing these lives less because you need to break a few eggs to make an omlet why not it's not like anyone will miss them FOR LONG AFTER SHE KILLS EVERYONE THE ROBBERS KNEW it's a no tolerance policy all crime gives the death penalty a win win a win for the spider it gets experience a win for the people they don't get mugged by a criminal a downside might be the scary spider living in a forest near you but why complain it caused a war oh no now it disapeared and now there is a giant amount of spiders outside after my home got taken and thank god that one wizard guy finally came back and now he is helping us beat the spiders and now they all disapeared with nothing left and that wizard guy saw something and the lord got killed earlier WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON as i said a win win also like she kinda is insane maybe but like in a the way that she sits the waiting unless she gets drunk then she can talk oh and paralel minds are insane because the demon lord is a bad parent and let her problems trouble her child and then her grand childs soul peaces ate her soul and oh fuck one of them just went ro attack her soul but anyways demon lord is a bad parent and because nobody who is sane is here at this point so major spoilers the demon lord lived before the whole fucking system and was crippled and constantly on life support and had to eat a lot more because she was making venom that was killing her and the system gave her the gluttony skill because d has a sick sense of humour and likes to make fun of the disabled by giving someone that has to eat a lot a skill called glutony even if this is just an assumption but it feels pretty obvious anyways what was i talking about oh yeah that spider is insane and she has eyes everywhere you are never safe she basicly throws people in a death trap for weeks because of a minor mistake of how difficult training should be and broke everyone also she is god and might be gay idk i'm not sure atleast she can't raise her kids she just left them to go lead a fucking army and be god and kill an elf that is an asshole i don't even know she is the mastermind she will save the world by using a backdoor to a backdoor by watching lock picking lawyer i might be insane this shit makes no sense please help i want to know more but i already have too much information WHEN WILL VOLUME 15 COME WHEN DID I GO CRAZY LIKE THIS IS IT JUST ME OR IS THIS ANIME/LIGHT NOVEL VERY SIMULAR TO THAT TIME I GOT REINCARNATED AS A SLIME I AM INSANE I AM GOING CRAZY IS AM MAKING CONNECTIONS ANDTKKALCVIWZNWLHUELZKIözks8lgiqPnfkwlxnfkslzknxdkl&♡*&×,!&#^#& If you are here i have a warning do not even show intrest in the light novel because it is insane and i spoiled a lot of things so HA HAA anyways yeah kumoko is insane but not insane enough to wipe out humanity
Well tbf u wouldn't call someone crazy for killing a spider, so she's not crazy for killing humans then? It's got nothing to do with ruler skills or madness, she's just not human and therefore, who cares
@@PerfectAlibi1 Well she's technically still a spider SPOILER!!! But her "human form" is only because she became a God, so I guess she can transform back whenever she wants into her Arachne form??
13 volumes officially. The 14th one drops this month. Tho I'm pretty sure you can probably find stuff beyond that through unofficial channels if you wanted to.
@@jadethescribe for this I’ll stick to official cuz it has little to no engrish and I want all my money to go to the creators, on that note do you know of any good places I can buy all the translated Ln?
@@kingtravis3540 Amazon's a safe bet for physical or digital if you use kindle (the volumes released sooner on kindle). Idk where you live so I don't know what book stores you have but if they sell light novels that may be a solid place to check too.
Kumoko: *appears* Venom and Spiderman: HERE COMES MY BRIDE! Venom: Excuse Me? Spiderman: You Heard Me, She's Mine! Venom: NO SHE BELONGS TO ME!! Spiderman: UH UH!! NO WAY I AM GONNA LET U SMOOCH HET FIRST B*TCH!!! Venom: WELL IM NOT LETTING UUUU HAVE S***** WITH HER FIRST!! Spiderman: F**$$ OF!! Venom: No U F*** OFF!!! Spiderman: She's Minor Just Like Me Now BACK OFF!! Venom: Not If I EAT U FIRST!! *continues arguing*
Lol I never claimed to be some kind of expert on the series. I made this while the anime was still airing (or a little bit after it ended) and it wasn't very heavy on details like this (I don't recall them ever bringing that to the audiences attention). This was MY own personal interpretation of her behavior at the time.
I know this is really late but please chill with the spoilers guys. Not everyone's a light novel reader so please be courteous.
Light novel readers do know though, that spider was insane from the very start. I don't think there was exactly a descent into madness here. That would imply that it had human sanity to begin with. She was nuts from the very start.
If you want an argument for why she went nuts completely, it has to be her pride skill. The spoilers on that would be that the rulers of seven deadly sins and seven heavenly virtues skills have tendencies towards psychosis of some kind. In the anime, she becomes the ruler of pride and a heretic also. Getting all those demon Lord titles and abyss magic stuff couldn't have been good on her mind.
Beginning Kumoko: Canibalism is bad
Ending Kumoko: The pretty ones taste better.
lol yes
well she not a human anymore so......
kumoku after svaing sofia in the webnovel feed her elf meat and also eat her arm , even in ln she said something like she wanted to eat baby arm
@@nonec384 Yea she was tempted to but then the baby pissed herself XD
Survival does crazy shit to the brain
Kumoko murders without a second thought because of her ruler skill "pride". Its effect is that makes the holder to view other living things as exp. All ruler skills have a soul corrosion effect but after aquiring perseverance and heresy nulity, this soul corrosion stoped progressing.
Yep. So she is only half crazy half weird
Shit I didn’t know someone already posted this lmao
Gotcha gotcha
Tbh, in all Rpgs they are just free Exp
I read somewhere that all the skills in this world have a similar effect, where the skill changes someone’s personality to match it. That’s why the teacher told the other isekaied students to not get more skills if they could help it.
2:17 actually she only kills when they attack her as the old man in the cave said ''The nightmare of the labyrinth only attacks when you attack it''
then again most animals don't kill you unless you fuck with them
Highly reccomend the LN. Her sanity and morales are being talked about and even explained. Otherwise great video. Many people are going to share your opinion most likely.
agreed
Yeah ln explains it
in case anyone is wondering the light novel has an audio book version that goes up to volume 6 and its narrated incredible well
8:21 just to remind you that baby she saved is the same vampire that the hero fought it. Kumokoi think shes the same age as them
You become desensitized to killing once you realize how easy it is!! That what makes this show so great brutal as hell!!
Exactly : )
And yet she sill manages to retain her generosity...
I'm pretty sure (well at least in the wl) that after the fight with the army of monkeys she got a title [merciless] and it's effect was that she doesn't feel guilt anymore, basically making her desensitized to killing yea
@@axen7711 It's the Pride skill. It messes with your mind into thinking that everything is nothing more than an a EXP container to be popped open like a gooey prize box. All the Sin Skills have a mind altering trait except for Gluttony and Sloth... except when Ariel notices that Sloth skill users have a tendency to want to slouch around all day as they work themselves to death.
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 as I said, the title [merciless] is why she doesn't feel any GUILT in killing, I never said that Pride didn't have it's own effect
kumoko is a sweet cinnamon roll of a spider and calling her psychotic is terrible slander
Kumoko did nothing wrong
You can call yourself a sweet guy without realizing youre the psychotic one
Ronandt mentioned in the Light novels when he saw kumoko's parallel mind's spartan training that you need to abandon all sanity if you wanted to survive in the great elroe labyrinth
It's also funny that he's the one who's insane in their perspective.
Honestly, I sometimes wonder if he was ever actually sane to begin with. He’s pretty wild though, and you love watching him.
this is better than most isekai since we get to see the protagonist actually work for their power
TRUEEE
Ikr! It is my favorite Isekai (more or less) and favorite Isekai Protagonist of all time, I can relate to her in general a lot
Overlord: Badass from the start. Never gets stronger.
Slime: Powers up very quickly.
Spider: Starts weak, has to fight every step of the way.
@@RedwoodTheElfif you run the numbers, the slime got equally powerful in a rough amount of time equivalent to what the spider did. She gets her Arachne form by the end of two years in that world. Sophia karen, the vampire progenitor is still a toddler whenever Wakaba is an arachnid with stats second only to the demon Lord.
If you don't call that speed leveling what is it?
@@craigwheeler4760in slime he basically sits around most of the time with far and few action scene while in kumo desu ga she starts from the bottom struggles wayyy more
She ain't unhinged...it's just her new Normal! 🤣
Lol
She's a mostly peaceful mass murdering spider.
@@RedwoodTheElf i mean she helps non-asshole humans (most of the time, at least at that point of the story anyway, and as of volume 11 her plan will help the planet in the long run so it's worth it lol)
She wasn't hinged to begin with
Here's my reasons on why kumoko went mad:
1. She was constantly bullied before she died
2. She had no friends to psychology coup with loneliness after death
3. She was hunted by anything and everything her only comfort the voices in her head
4. She was given taboo knowledge not meant for anyone short of being an administrator
5. Her own mother wants her dead
Can you honestly say you'd stay sane under these conditions ???
Nope my ass already on the other side of sanity if I was put in her shoes with my current mentality I'd get worse hell I'd start killing as soon as I hatch because I know I probably won't be given the best stats and grinding usually the best way to get better stats
Also kumoko is not really wakaba she is a spider in the original and wakaba is a god name d she use a random spider as a cover to escape
@@john_carlo_manabat9961
haven't read the manga yet no spoilers please I'm currently trying to find somewhere to get the manga series a friend of mine said Amazon is a bad place to get manga books because he order six different books and all of them where badly damaged on arrival
@@nethermandie2635 also manga ends for now short after mera and Sophia join Ariel and kumoko so better get light novel since it's finished
it's most likely because of the pride skill, every deadly sin skill has some sort of soul altering affect
@@nethermandie2635 fuck that manga man, read LN, i dare you, it's waaaaaaaaaaaay better
Not to mention that accepting new skills through the W System changes her personality. The Pride skill is testament to her character development.
And that kumoko is not really wakaba she is just a cover for the real wakaba name d a god and kumoko is just a random spider
Well you try to live in a pitch black cave of nothingness for months with no one to talk to. If anything I think she's taking this whole craziness rather well.
Late to this, but I liked this video. I am a light novel reader so there is a lot more information later. But I also don't think you need that context to understand the basics of her mindset.
From the info we get in the anime, we see that she was a socially maladjusted outcast on Earth whose primary interaction with other people was being bullied. Before she even gets to the new world, she has a fundamental disconnect with humanity.
And then she wakes up in an actual nightmare of death, cannibalism, and body horror. She learns very quickly that she cannot hold back anything if she wants to survive. If she hesitates in battle, she gets a face full of acid. If she tries to take it easy and stay in her house, humans come and burn it down. If she finds an easy monster on its own, she can't take it lightly cuz it might be part of a huge hoard of monkeys that will stop at nothing to get revenge. Even when she is strong enough that humans aren't a threat, if she hesitates, they burn her house down. It's either 100% effort focused on survival or she's dead.
Combine that with her extremely hyperactive internal dialogue and a literal fracturing of her consciousness, you'll get a pretty unique personality with some interesting views on morality. Using the dnd alignment chart, I'd say that, in the anime, she's pretty solidly in the Chaotic Neutral zone. She looks out for herself, doing anything necessary to further her spontaneous goals with no regard for others laws, morals, desires, etc. In the LN she ultimately feels more like Chaotic Good, but it's right on the border.
Kumoko is one of my favorite protagonists, especially in the isekai genre. And a big part of that is her really unique morality and mindset. She's terrifying due to her lack of empathy combined with her insane power. Her equal lack of malice adds an extra bit of interest.
I dont think kumoko was sane in the first place, afterall kumoko wasnt even human before. She had the memories of 'wakaba' but she was a spider.
That was also the reason for why she wasnt able to speak properly.
Im not sure if it was shown that kumoko was a spider in the anime but in the LN, kumoko was
not that wakaba had any moral or was in anyway a good upstanding person , the part of her that is d of doing what she wants and the fake shinines still impact her end personality
While I do agree with your analysis of Kumoko's mentality, there is one fragment of very important information you left out regarding her actions after first leaving the labyrinth.
Remember, before she left the labyrinth, Kumoko had unlocked Taboo and gained its knowledge of how the world will end, which included the evils of the world that needed to be eradicated in order to prevent the apocalypse.
With that constantly in the back of her mind, is it really surprising Kumoko would eliminate anyone who seemed bad without a second thought?
good point I forgot to mention that lol
OMG that's absolutely horrifying.
What you said about her using thread to puppeteer the defeated mangled Corpses & do a Concert 😆😅😱
i mean, if you have a bunch of bodys, those powers and are bored i can think of worse ways to spend time trapped in the worlds largest cave system! I can't blame her if this is the case, that's for sure!
Wait did I miss that when was this I'm on ep 6 now
I didn't realize I needed a Kumiko plush until I saw this. Haha, perhaps I'll read the LN. You earned those subscribers! Keep up the good work!
Thanks man! :D
you will not regret the Light novels, leagues better than the anime in my opinion! Granted i am typing this 8 months later so you very well might be all caught up by now lol
She also did have to develop a "whatever it takes" mindset and that can jack up a human mind
Besides the fact that her ruler skills effect her both mentally and physically one other reason is because she wasn’t really human , spoilers ,,,
She is a spider who’s soul was alter to pass as a human but because of her spider wavelength allow her to be reborn as a spider , same as that vampire girl , the vampire girl is a perfect example also she was allow to become a some what true ancestor of the vampire that once existed on the planet but went extinct due to the dragons , her envy skill warped her personality into a yandare, she was allow to become a vampire because D the evil goddess thought it might be interesting
*spoilers for light novel vol 15*
So volume 15 just dropped and after the elf village massacre Mera was so worried that Shiro would start eating dead elves that he offered to make her breakfast. She even caught on to this and had an internal monologue about how she eats her enemies out of respect for them
Yeah also her pride skill kinda made her think of everything as xp . I think it was explained in vol6 of the ln that pride has that affect on the user.
wow, this was very detailed and well-edited. Keep up the great work
Thanks a bunch!
As a light novel reader I am currently feel so much power over the manga and anime communities
Her sanity was probably what hinted she was the admin D because like they have almost the same mentality as her and as a theory I think her like soul was put into two and one part went into admin D and the other into like her spider form
Interesting theory 👍
Spoilers for further on in the series
The name of the series gives away a secret about Kumoko. Namely she IS a spider and was a spider on Earth until the classroom got blown up. This isn't a story about her losing her morals, it's about finding them to an extent. sm
that is not the entire story as she also (AGAIN, SPOILERS)
was given memories and a part of Administer D's/"Wakaba"'s soul so she could skip working in the underworld as a god
@@Yuki_Ika7 bruh just to not work lol
@@Yuki_Ika7 Is that why she has memories as a class member then?
SHES NOT MAD shes a bit unhinged BUT saving the world is saving the world
That's why I love her
@@jadethescribe he too and not being edgy but litreally me??? Like I too never related with people going over the top about "killing bad people" it always seemed goofy to me
She’s the definition of chaotic natural and that’s why she’s one of my favourite anime protagonists
I mean I don't think she was ever really 'normal'. You can't really survive in her situation if you were normal (I.E. like the other reincarnations)
Yeah
i guess that's what happens when a social creature is trapped with very hostile things underground
Makoto rizzed up a Spider and he gonna do it again💀
This show it’s so many unique ideas not just having a protagonist as a spider but the idea of multiple people being reincarnated in the same world but into different parents and factions is something I haven’t seen in the other Isak Kai.
This all hinges on believing that killing is wrong which is subjective. It's kind of the point of this story just like Executioner's way of life. I love how the story frames the evil vs good side and how much characters are indoctrinated by whichever side they are on
I don't think I really emphasized this in the video but where I was coming from when I made this video was based in the assumption that Kumoko was a normal human/ had a normal human life before being reincarnated. With that assumption her behavior a certain points in the story is really strange (which is intentional on the story's part). You are definitely right about the whole good vs evil perception thing. It's probable one of the most interesting dynamics in the story.
@@jadethescribe I would really implore you to be cautious with the term "normal" as living in certain ecosystems (where gangs violence is a daily event) could teach a child to live as a survivor.
Aladdin is an example as technically he steals and cheats his way to the top and shouldn't even have a chance with Jasmine (as he doesn't even know court etiquette)
A really good example of a character learning the royal ropes is the Bibliophile princess.
You're absolutely right that Kumoko's mind processes that recognize her game world and what she must do is odd but compare her to Maple from Bofuri and you'll notice it's a survivalist mindset that a gamer has.
This mindset is why I know if the Overlord crew were looking to scout from other isekai, They would gladly welcome our Spider Idol.
I'm definitely on your side as I see kumoko as "PTSD on meth" since, we see what she goes through and to start your life like a shark baby eating it's kin so it can have the best chance in life is the first lesson to shape her mindset.
But she can't be fully crazy since she has that meltdown about being jealous she wasn't a cute vampire baby 🤣
That's why I love kumoko so much, I completely understand her logic and how she knows this reality is just a game and she's going to grind to the top.
Shes the kind of person who'll go through the hassle of finding hidden bosses in Final Fantasy games.
Normal people don't do that. But this isn't a slice of life, this is a slice of Spider.
Imagine if she were a black widow or praying mantis and accidentally beheads all the mates she gets when passionately getting it on, reviving them and then doing it again... She's basically like the grandma from the Dr Tran Toy store short animation.
Peak comedy.
Also remember, Kumako's intelligence has been majorly uplifted to human levels of thought and emotion levels. Remember that she WAS a spider in Japan. A real normal spider. All she had to do, in reality, in Japan was to catch insects, liquified the bodies, drink the nutrients, and lay eggs and prepare for them their first food. She knows the humans in the school room exist, but they wouldn't matter to her, because humans are godlike compared to her in her past life. Now she is their superiors.
Oh, yes, Kumako is a real spider in Japan. Hope this has opened your eyes.
If anything, she's quite possibly become less cruel in a sense, because if she was still a feral spider she'd probably kill the other humans without a thought.
Wait what?
@@polasamierwahsh421 Sorry for the late story spoiler, but yes Kumoko was an actual spider on Earth. And yes, without the intelligence and personality upgrade she would view everything as food.
@@stanleyteriaca2184 that...Wait THEN why isn't she just a predator with brain like demons or boss monsters but rather a human like being?
@@stanleyteriaca2184 also tis ok , life happens
When reading about camancheria settler accounts of KOS style survival i completely understand why she'd do that now.
Something that LN and Manga readers have missed is that after killing the monkeys she gains the merciless title (shown in status but not explained) which has the effect of negating feelings of guilt. I feel like most people would be capable of killing in a life and death situation but after said situation ends they’d feel guilt. Kumoko can’t which is definitely a large contributing factor to her insanity.
Very useful and relevant comment.
I solute you!
The story of Kumoko's is essentially what happens when a Hikikomori/Incel/Otaku decides that they actually decided to move on and survive.
There is a part in this video which makes LN readers smirk. Not gonna say which part though.
I mean there's not much to complain about if you're slipping away from life physically every day too...
Maybe she became like that because of bad experience inside the labyrinth for too long almost forgot about common sense in human community which makes her a monster.
Ngl i wish there were content on the w system, i feel like its a hidden gem in this show.
not trying to dis him, but he clearly hasn't read the LN when he made this vid 7:25
@@grimdaybreaker Yeah I didn't because it's about the anime adaptation which was airing at the time. I don't believe I claimed to have read the light novels in the video. It was mainly my speculation about what I watched at the time. I'm aware of a lot of later plot points today.
I forgot that dungeon sickness makes your sense of time wacked she could've been there for more than a year
She wasn't in the dungeon for a year she was in it for at least a decade in the anime people mention about the nightmare of the laberynth (which is her) and how long its been since they saw her
Particularly this old man who managed to get away from her
Yeah @@Voltaic01 it seems you're right the wiki says at about a year which makes me all the more confused I watched the dub so it may have been a script error then
oh? That was a pretty cool analysis.
Thanks my dude, I appreciate it
if i was an earth dragon and got beat by a small spider id give up too
to be fair that's one crazy spider lol.
I mean, spoiler for the LN but
her constant killing is actually due to the pride skill
Hmmmm, that's actually pretty interesting. It is a demon lord skill so I get it
@RE: NEKO For a while there I didn't know what you were talking about. When I say "demon lord skill" I'm not talking about Ariel lol. I'm referring to the ruler skill as a "demon lord skill". I believe a character called the skills that have to do with sins something like that. Eh but it's not really important lol
@@jadethescribe there is a skill literally called "Demon Lord" Earned by being sufficiently monstrous in behavior, having it makes one a candidate for the "Demon Lord" Title. Ariel has both the title and the skill, while Kumoko has only the Demon Lord Skill.
The "Hero" skill and title works the same way. You earn the skill by being heroic, and it makes you a candidate for inheriting the "hero" title. Ironically, Kumoko also earns the hero Skill.
The ruler titles and skills are similar, with the main difference is that the ruler skills have to usually be leveled up through a series of lesser versions before you earn the ruler skill, upon which the ruler title is awarded so long as you are the only being to have that skill. if a ruler is still alive, nobody else can level up a ruler skill to max. Ruler skills can also be bought, with the cost calculated based on one's personality, and how much they have leveled up the lesser versions of the skill.
Kumoko bought Pride for the bare minimum 100 skill points with no prior grinding by the way. both perseverance and sloth were far more expensive for her.
the fifteen ruler skills are based on the seven deadly sins and the seven heavenly virtues, with wisdom being a new one created for Kumoko by D.
to reiterate, by the time she kills Araba, Kumoko has Pride, perseverance, wisdom, and sloth. Most people will only ever get one ruler skill before getting killed.
@@MrSailing101 technically most people will never earn, or even learn of ruler skills. Even if the seven deadly sins and heavly virtue skills are known, barely anyone knows about ruler privileges.
Slight LN spoiler but I think at volume 13 or 14 she didn't realize she was friends with somebody even though they've known each other for like 12 years I might be misremembering what happened but it was interesting
edit: i know nobody likely cares but i read a few volumes again and this part im talking about is in volume 15 chapter 4 aight bye
i know that part of the reason i am so weird and crazy (in a good way) is to cope with life's struggles, in fact it runs in my family! Also her [Ruler of ____] skills and/or titles effect how she thinks too
Spoiler of this anime is kumoko is actually a real spider on earth in the classroom and D is Wakaba a god that slacking of in her job ..
me who read the LN: yeah sure...
grrrr bratty commenter not agreeing with me.
Needs correction! 💢💢💢
@@jadethescribe more like foreshadowing vibe
something the anime does not really show is the effects of the sin and virtue skills which warp the mind (explained in more detail in the light novels)
Deltarune Noelle if she was a spider in chapter 2 be like
She’s a deadpool type character
Fuckin love this show. Spider girls deserve more representation
based and spider pilled
Do you know how many Isekai have the MC slaughtering bandits in the first or second chapter? You can't really use that as evidence.
this will be spoilers from so i'm a spider , so what.
The spoilers will be about the skill pride and about Kumoko just so you know that before reading this. i think this is a great video i just wanted to give some information
press read more to se it
its some of the seven deadly sins skills that can change how people thing and the skill pride the thing she have makes you think every thing as EXP
and another thing it can be is that she is a spider, what i mean is that she was a spider before she got reincarnated and the god D is the real Kumoko
Was so glad the moment monkey enemies were done the cgi for it was just ugly af idk something about it was not in mesh
Gotcha, yeah the CG in this show overall was really hit or miss so I understand the way you feel.
OBVIOUSLY SATIRE
rimuru vs kumoko
kumoko has 3 voices in her head (well i guess she does lose one by it going to the demon lord's mind and being merged with it soo)
rimuru has 1
instant kumoko win
@@wafturecity True, every voice she has doubles her strength and cuteness. Rimuru just can't compete.
also the book readers will tell you that she is was achualy a spider and D is Hirio Wacaba
Ppl are only civilized because they have no choice
Sorry guys I'm spoil something for you komako is the administrator komako that we know is only a spider of the class leave the memory of the administrator
When/where did she get the name "Kumoko"?
Don't recall it ever being mentioned in anime...her stats always show " unnamed"...
It's basically a fan-name. Kumo means spider and the -ko ending is for female names. Basically, she's named Spiderette.
Also, when she couldn't use magic she thought it would be nice to be "the magical girl Kumoko".
Its a name given by fans of WN and LN. basically means “female spider”
Thanks; missed that line...
Noticed it later, too, in theme song...after posting question...smh
Thanks...
I'm late but shes kinda anime Deadpool
you seem like you have watched live leak more than once
Like, I think she is fairly normal.
I know this video is old and my words don't really matter, BUT, as a reader of the novels, I can say with confidence that this theory is complete and utter bullshit, she isn't insane in the slightest, the proper word is eccentric
Just a fun little speculative video I made when I was watching the anime while it was airing. Keep in mind I didn't read any of the light novels yet. The video was for fun, nothing super serious.
@@jadethescribe i'm aware but forgot to add the humor emojis
@@Extella_Nights lol gotcha
PLUSHIES!!!
too bad the series is probably not going to have another season like 90% of isekai even more so cuz Crunchyroll and FUNimation merger
Tis sad
@@jadethescribe I've heard rumors season 2 is on the way.
completely unconfirmable and untraceable rumors, but i say they exist.
*Laughing madly
@@MrSailing101 that would be something XD
She a baddie
Well it's probably the effects of taboo i won't spoil it but killing people is good because the person dies and loses memories skills and stats and that is a very good thing for everyone also she probably is valuing these lives less because you need to break a few eggs to make an omlet why not it's not like anyone will miss them FOR LONG AFTER SHE KILLS EVERYONE THE ROBBERS KNEW it's a no tolerance policy all crime gives the death penalty a win win a win for the spider it gets experience a win for the people they don't get mugged by a criminal a downside might be the scary spider living in a forest near you but why complain it caused a war oh no now it disapeared and now there is a giant amount of spiders outside after my home got taken and thank god that one wizard guy finally came back and now he is helping us beat the spiders and now they all disapeared with nothing left and that wizard guy saw something and the lord got killed earlier WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON as i said a win win also like she kinda is insane maybe but like in a the way that she sits the waiting unless she gets drunk then she can talk oh and paralel minds are insane because the demon lord is a bad parent and let her problems trouble her child and then her grand childs soul peaces ate her soul and oh fuck one of them just went ro attack her soul but anyways demon lord is a bad parent and because nobody who is sane is here at this point so major spoilers the demon lord lived before the whole fucking system and was crippled and constantly on life support and had to eat a lot more because she was making venom that was killing her and the system gave her the gluttony skill because d has a sick sense of humour and likes to make fun of the disabled by giving someone that has to eat a lot a skill called glutony even if this is just an assumption but it feels pretty obvious anyways what was i talking about oh yeah that spider is insane and she has eyes everywhere you are never safe she basicly throws people in a death trap for weeks because of a minor mistake of how difficult training should be and broke everyone also she is god and might be gay idk i'm not sure atleast she can't raise her kids she just left them to go lead a fucking army and be god and kill an elf that is an asshole i don't even know she is the mastermind she will save the world by using a backdoor to a backdoor by watching lock picking lawyer i might be insane this shit makes no sense please help i want to know more but i already have too much information WHEN WILL VOLUME 15 COME WHEN DID I GO CRAZY LIKE THIS IS IT JUST ME OR IS THIS ANIME/LIGHT NOVEL VERY SIMULAR TO THAT TIME I GOT REINCARNATED AS A SLIME I AM INSANE I AM GOING CRAZY IS AM MAKING CONNECTIONS ANDTKKALCVIWZNWLHUELZKIözks8lgiqPnfkwlxnfkslzknxdkl&♡*&×,!&#^#&
If you are here i have a warning do not even show intrest in the light novel because it is insane and i spoiled a lot of things so HA HAA anyways yeah kumoko is insane but not insane enough to wipe out humanity
Well tbf u wouldn't call someone crazy for killing a spider, so she's not crazy for killing humans then? It's got nothing to do with ruler skills or madness, she's just not human and therefore, who cares
Fair enough
HUGE SPOILER
Kumoko is NOT wakaba kumoko is a spider administrator D used as a substitute because wakaba is D
Spider form is cute, Shiro tho is hot mommy
absolutely
spoiler for LN
well she is a spider what do you expect
I love evil/crazy mc's
I hate her full human form.
Makes the whole title not even make sense!
What was wrong with her Arachne form?
Hard to draw? I don’t know
Same, I wish she kept her Arachne form
@@Kattze
The human parts were boring and uninteresting to boot!
Now she's human too. :(
@@PerfectAlibi1 Well she's technically still a spider
SPOILER!!!
But her "human form" is only because she became a God, so I guess she can transform back whenever she wants into her Arachne form??
@@Kattze
I still don't like her human form...
Kumoko did nothing wrong
How many of the ln have been translated to English?
13 volumes officially. The 14th one drops this month. Tho I'm pretty sure you can probably find stuff beyond that through unofficial channels if you wanted to.
@@jadethescribe for this I’ll stick to official cuz it has little to no engrish and I want all my money to go to the creators, on that note do you know of any good places I can buy all the translated Ln?
@@kingtravis3540 Amazon's a safe bet for physical or digital if you use kindle (the volumes released sooner on kindle). Idk where you live so I don't know what book stores you have but if they sell light novels that may be a solid place to check too.
@@jadethescribe I just want to say I’ve ordered all the Ln other than 14
@@kingtravis3540 oh sweet, have fun 👍
rimuru had it easy compared to kumoko
what episode is this
manga spoiler
In the future she'll be less crazy since all here stat is reduced to nothing
İ dont understand why this anime got so likes it might be good but the cgi monke eyes wtf it was so bad
Kumoko: *appears*
Venom and Spiderman: HERE COMES MY BRIDE!
Venom: Excuse Me?
Spiderman: You Heard Me, She's Mine!
Venom: NO SHE BELONGS TO ME!!
Spiderman: UH UH!! NO WAY I AM GONNA LET U SMOOCH HET FIRST
B*TCH!!!
Venom: WELL IM NOT LETTING UUUU HAVE S***** WITH HER FIRST!!
Spiderman: F**$$ OF!!
Venom: No U F*** OFF!!!
Spiderman: She's Minor Just Like Me Now BACK OFF!!
Venom: Not If I EAT U FIRST!!
*continues arguing*
Kumoko: What you two idiots talking about?! I don't wanna be with either of you two weaklings.
Kumoko: *mortals*
@@dinodude6992 _funni music plays_
Spiderman already has more girlfriends than any other hero in fiction. Why would he need more?
next time do your research the pride skill it has a masive side effect potentially affect her mind to where she considers others to be just EXP
Lol I never claimed to be some kind of expert on the series. I made this while the anime was still airing (or a little bit after it ended) and it wasn't very heavy on details like this (I don't recall them ever bringing that to the audiences attention). This was MY own personal interpretation of her behavior at the time.
Anime was crap but the Manga is great.
This series makes absolutely no sense lmao
Yeah but its all gone make sense in the end lol i understand why you think so you really gote rack your brain to know what the writer is thinking
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