Oh god, that EJ bloke again! Surely everybody is fed up with him by now! Seriously though thanks for coming to see the layout, I had a really good time. I'd love to see Dean Park in the flesh as it was a major source of inspiration for my new layout. Will have to book some more time off, cheers. Richard
Haha! People are going to be bleedin' sick of him lol. Yeah I had a blast, two days that have defined summer 2019 for me are the Hornby visit and my Everard day. I'll get the goo gone out for your visit, you'll feel at home with the smell. ;-) Cheers. Dave
Very Interesting, I find myself in a similar boat. Having been born in 96, but I model the LNER in 1937/8 on the Great Eastern in OO and on the ECML in 0 so I find myself doing the same as you. Lots of research and finding photographs & videos. All very interesting.
I started working for BR InterCity &ScotRail in 1986. I worked 47 Push Pulls&HSTs on E&G all Scotland's 47s were transferred to the Network SouthEast after we got 158s.
Great seeing you both talking. Im 57 and never actually had a train set from new but now thinking of getting my first one soon because of you guys. Thanks.
It’s never too late to start. 57….still young enough. But avoid crawling on your knees if you do get a layout going lol, as even in my mid 40’s I’m feeling the result of crawling about my loft for 10 years 😆
@@DeanPark lol absolutely. I run a fair bit and have dodgy knees so think the loft is out but im eying my garage and even the Mrs has suggested that so maybe 😄
I must admit I too thought Richard was my age (50s) by the way he talks with such knowledge and authenticity and his choice of words. I’ve never been all that interested in model railways but am fascinated by the model making, attention to detail and interpretation of an era that you two bring to TH-cam. Really enjoyed this chat between you two.
Ah you guys are great , so good to see and hear you reminiscing and exchanging memories, you were both my inspiration back in 2012/13/14 , we had the odd exchange when I was ‘OldOakCorner’ .. same era as you guys . Alas took it all to bits when my son was due to make storage room in the loft . Since moved and have a man space I built in the garage, where I run a few remaining locos .. moved more into scale modelling , sci-fi kits etc looking to dioramas , miss the sound of a running session , it could get quite loud ! There will be another proper layout for me at some point one day , still have boxes of stuff I spent many an hour over .. keep it up fellas and thanks for all that inspiration you gave me , and still give me as I dip in and out of your channels .. the modelling skills I practice now all stem from those OldOakCorner days watching you both on TH-cam . Many many thanks ! Simon , @ModelbuildStar
Mr mondo Hi Simon good to hear from you... we’ve chatted before! I had a great day with Richard, really enjoyed watching and running trains on the layout. He came up to visit me in October. This hobby really gives you great fun and new friends. Dave.
Hi Dave , great to hear you remember me . I have one treasured 4 min running session on video of the OldOakCorner ! I watch now and then and amaze myself at all the graft I put in . So much fun too ! Really good to see you boys all connecting in the flesh and making videos with the old and new . All the best Simon
"I like me 47 with a clapped out rake of MK2s behind it... I wouldn't wanna go on it as a passenger paying the fares, but as a model it's nice." 🤣🤣🤣 What an absolutely picture perfect quote from an 80's era modeler. As a modeler in his early 30's I can totally relate to Richard's answer regarding colour. Even before blue we had some wonderful colour in our railways. Brown and white, red and cream, greens and then suddenly blue, blue everywhere, everything blue. Then all of a sudden we're hit with these amazing liveries, and Richard's trains running in the background paint the picture perfectly. Blue and grey DMU, Intercity behind RES, full NSE both with a bit of old blue/grey mixed in. Moving North we have Scotrail and Intercity mixed in the Blue/Grey. I see a lot of grey in modern trains. Grey?! They might as well have just left it primed and took the cost of paint off the ticket prices. For me it's the clicking of the 86/7's. I can still hear that, standing at the end of Lime Street. 90's and the mighty 91's in IC livery. EJ would look amazing with overhead, eh? All of those electrics but still 37's, 47's, even 40's rumbling around the place. I remember the 158's and 92's being new 😐
I think those are the coaches I used to travel in as a kid, there was a corridor and seperate little rooms which from memory would sit about six passengers. I actually enjoyed it until some stranger sat opposite you , I much preferred having the room to ourselves LOL
I think one reason, if not THE reason you, Richard, Luke Towan, Jason Jensen et al, are doing so well is your willingness and intention to continually learn, grow and improve your skills. That your videos are well made with good sound, focus, pacing, etc. is of course important, but that's simply necessary to provide a platform for the content, regardless of what it is. I know from participation on model railroad forums that too many modelers seem content to settle for mediocre. Perhaps they are afraid to try or maybe they are part of the culture that doesn't value excellence. You prove that it is possible to find great enjoyment in the hobby while striving to do better. I appreciate your willingness to share your progress and I wish you the best in all your modeling endeavors! Cheers just now.
Thank you so much for those kind words and encouragement. You’re right,too many people settle for mediocrity and don’t try new things. Some people on the other hand try things just in order to put a video together. I know from speaking to Richard that he is in the same mindset as me, in that we only release videos when we feel there is valuable content to share. I’m not in the market for churning out pointless videos as people get sick of contrived and poorly produced content. You’re totally right when you say it’s possible to have enjoyment whilst learning new things.After all isn’t that what the hobby is all about? Thanks for watching and I hope you continue to enjoy the videos that I produce. Cheers. Dave
I've been enjoying watching the EJ videos over the last few months as it' progresses. This is a great breather video for you, taking a break and chatting with a fellow enthusiastic modeller. It's good to watch and take in each others ideas, likes and other hobbies. Nice one lads! Thanks!👍👍
Great down to earth video of a group of modellers enjoying each others company. Really enjoying it. Out of all the channels I think I watch Dean Park,Everard and Charlie at Chadwick the most. Charlie does great informative videos.
Hi Robin. Thanks for that and your support over a long period of time. Richard, myself and Charlie are three modellers who are on youtube. There are a lot of youtubers who try to model, if that makes sense. The sole purpose for Richard and my channel is to model first and youtube second. Thats the way it should be in my opinion. We just love what we do and I hope that came across in that video. Cheers. Dave
What a fascinating chat with two of my favourite modellers. I would like to sincerely thank you both for putting this wonderful video on TH-cam. Cheers Greg
Greg Hale Hi Greg. Thanks. I really enjoyed chatting to Richard. Was great that Richard hosted Andy and I, three proper modellers chatting about this wonderful hobby. One of my favourite videos. Cheers. Dave
VERY kind of you to say so mate. There are many better modellers out there and there are some who try to better me, that’s great, but I’m just loving my modelling and meeting genuine real modellers. Really enjoyed making this video. We get in very well and he’s a very genuine bloke. Cheers. Dave
Well Gentlemen, what can I say..... that video is just superb on so many levels. As always, very informative and great to hear both of your experiences of learning how to do things while your railways evolved. Interesting things I’m taking away from the video are that the railway is what you want it to be, it grows at the pace that is right for you, it’s what you do because it’s what you enjoy doing, no way is the right way or the wrong way and don’t ever think that it’s finished ! I enjoyed the video because I felt as though I was sitting in the loft with you sharing your conversations ! But it was more than just a discussion about a shared interest, it was two really nice guys, two talented guys, chatting together about something that motivates them, sharing openly their thoughts, knowledge and experiences and without agenda or reward, that’s incredibly generous of you, thank you so much. Dave, I’ve previously mentioned to you soon after I found your channel, that I’m going to embark on building my own railway, Pevenbourne. Well, my railway room has now been cleared of all the stuff that was dumped there after we moved into the house and all that’s left is my model trains and buses. Next job, putting some sockets around the skirting board in trunking, then new LED track lighting around the ceiling. After that, I’ll be wallpapering around the upper part of the room with blue sky and clouds wallpaper before putting up some cabinets for my 130 or so model buses. And then, I’ll be starting on the lower level boards for the railway. The design of the railway is mostly completed, it’s on two levels with a helix. Lower level will be sidings and a turntable yard. Upper part will be the main running layout. Hopefully, timeline is to get the room to the point of starting to do the lower level boards early next year and then gradually over then next year or two complete the lower level, then the helix and then the upper level. I’m retiring in October 2023 and the railway will be my retirement project. Can’t wait to get started on the lower level so that I can get some trains running. I love watching your videos, it’s all useful information for me for when I build my layouts. Thanks again gents, I may have one or two questions for your over the coming years ! Looking forward to the reciprocal video when Everard Junction visits Dean Park ! My best wishes and kindest regards to you both. Bryan
Bryan Lane Bryan, I’m am blown away by your comment. Than you for taking the time to get in touch. Richard and I could have chatted for hours more! Two modelling friends who are both passionate about doing it right. We are always learning and both of us were open and honest about our stage in the hobby. I’m so glad you picked up on the informal nature of the video, that’s exactly what I was trying to achieve. As for your project, it’s great to read that you’re now getting geared up to go for it! By 2023 you will have made god progress, so hopefully retirement will give you the time to really push on with it. I’ll let Richard know about your comment too. Thanks again for getting in touch. You’re a gentleman. Warmest regards. Dave
Great video. These videos covering behind the scenes on who the modeller is I really enjoy. So much great content in this video. Thanks for filming and sharing, Clint at Leila Central.
Hi, yeah it was something different that has not been done as much by others. I really enjoyed seeing the layout and the three of us had a great (if not warm) day. Cheers. Dave
Ralph West haha... royalty. There’s a few who would disagree and are even trying hard to be ‘better’. I’m just in it for the love of railways and talking about railways with guys like Richard, Andy, and my mate mike and many many others.
@@DeanPark I did... I did Watching it was really nice to see some colour to the personallites behind the voices. Ive been watching you both for so long now. It really made me think about the amount of effort that goes into the production of the videos I kinda take for granted as there is a level of professionalism you must have in each one.. The bloopers are the best big :-)
Ah the two most inspirational layouts I follow on You Tube together at last. Nice video, the out-takes made me smile. Thank you for taking the time to video a great get together. I remember the 1980's as that was my train spotting years, great times were had, and brought back to mind by your layouts. Regards Dave.
Hi Dave, thanks for getting in touch to say that. Great to hear you smiled at the out takes....I was almost drying by the end of the opening shot....it took me about 8 attempts! Love an out take as well. lol. Dave
Having followed you both for a few years now, it's great to see the two of you together joking like this. It's beyond just comments back and forth videos now - it's great to see the progression of TH-cam (like you talked about) in how what was almost solitary and very much behind the cameras stuff is now much more in front of the camera and really being able to see faces and interactions. Looks like you all have good fun at shows and events like this, and makes the layouts much personable and relatable. Keep enjoying yourselves and keeping it all as a hobby at the end of the day. Iain
Newcastle Central (OO Gauge) hi Iain. Yeah it’s great to meet a fellow modeller and chat freely and unscripted. We could have chatted for hours and hours about our hobby. Thanks for those kind words :-) Cheers Dave
A wonderful production Dave, and you can clearly see the cross fertilisation of ideas that have produced such amazing layouts. It was good to see Richard with you, and finally, those Out-takes were hilarious....So much to see and absorb...I love it...Best wishes...Bob
Robert Masterman hi Bob, it was good good fun! We had so many laughs and lots of chat on and off the camera. We are both modellers and both (including Andy Hudson) shared a lot of ideas, techniques and tips with each other. It showed how willing we all were to help each other, no strings attached. A Genuinely nice bloke! There was no getting soppy over each other’s skills, but mutual respect. Could have chatted for hours... but my battery ran out! :-) Dave.
Hi Dave, I think both Yourself, Richard and Andy have all done you TH-cam channels proud this week, it’s been great to see you all attend Richards Layout and I do hope Richard will attend Dean Park Station soon to. It’s been a great laugh and to see and hear your banter between each other as been great. It’s been a really great get together party lol Great blog and certainly one of the best as I remember seeing you all at the Warley Open Day back in June 2019. Superb 👍Thumbs Up 👍to all of you guys.
Jamie Smith hi Jamie. It was just banter from start to finish...hardly any of it was planned, I had the odd question planned the rest just went off at a tangent and we just flowed. Probably one of the most natural meeting between two modellers on TH-cam. We had a blast. Richard has been invited to dean park, as has Andy. :-) cheers. Dave
Ah nice one Dave, look forward to those blogs in the future. Really enjoyed your interview with Simon aka Hornby blog, I couldn’t have chose a better modeller if i tried. Right man for all the questions you asked. Especially on Colours of coaches etc, from different manufacturers, you hit the nail on the head with several of your question. I would love to see that interview again in the future with Simon to see if anything as been done and things are moving forward. One of the best Hornby TH-cam blog EVER...!?! Huge 👍Thumbs Up 👍
Oh wow! Thank you. Richard and I are very similar modellers in many ways and it was great to see his work. Along with Andy from the Warley club (his video will follow tomorrow night on the warley channel) we had a great time. Cheers. Dave
Thanks for such a brilliant informative video.. I so interesting see and listen to the faces behind the videos and to understand more about the layouts their creators and what the motivation is for a particular layout. I really enjoy these .."Meets" videos. they give us such great inspiration for our own efforts within the hobby.
Hi Chris, thanks for kind words. Its great to meet other modellers and freely share your hints and tips. Richard couldnt have been more helpful on the day. No questions unanswered, no secrets kept lol. A really great day. Cheers. Dave
I'm still here lads and you never know i may just return one day!!! Loved the video guys and Richard the layout looks totally amazing. Keep up the good work guys. Terry Glebe Road Junction.
Great to see all these cross-over videos with you sharing your passions and experiences of the hobby. The out-takes are a great laugh as well. "I'm putting my camera in the corner for this... 😂" Fantastic seeing how things are progressing, looking forward to more of the same.
Leon McInnes yeah thanks. It was a real hoot trying to get my first clip filmed... I could not get it right lol. I did after about 8 attempts. Cheers. Dave
Excellent video, good to see proper scale modelling on show! Also liking the outtakes part of the videos, it’s fun to see people laughing and enjoying the hobby, you can tell it’s genuine laughter, unlike some videos I’ve seen with fake, nervous laughs and forced smiles. Keep it up 👍🏼
Hi, thanks. Yeah natural laughter and smiles, no fake or contrived nonsense here. lol. 100% proper modelling. Lots of mutual respect on show from all three of us and geniune chat. It wasnt really a 'visit' or an 'interview', it was a 'get togther' of friends. Cheers.
Great video. Really enjoyed watching it. Your interview technique is a natural one, despite the out-takes! Looking forward to seeing Richard visit Dean Park at some point. 👍🏻 Spot-on!
Darren Hillman hi Darren, it was a great day and Richard is a top guy! We are both very relaxed and I hope the natural relaxed atmosphere came across. I really hope Richard can visit Dean Park at some point. He’s more than welcome. :-) Cheers Dave
Fabulous video , very enjoyable to watch you at Everard Junction . I restarted my hobby in 2012 when I retired and have followed you both learning as you did from TH-cam , when ever I have had occasion to ask you about problems I was having or just general queries you didn't hesitate to answer them . Thanks Dave and Richard . Cheers.......Peter
Peter Shaw hi peter. Very kind of you to say that. Thank you. I always try to remember to reply to everyone. I sometimes forget but if I ever do, just give me another nudge lol. Cheers. Dave
Loved it, great insight into the starting point of my interest in making a layout. Interesting to note he got inspiration from you Dave to make mk2..... Thanks for getting together for this and great to see two top you tube Modellers’ getting it on video. Great watch, cheers, Chris
Hi, this meeting had been a long long time in the planning and it worked out great. I was surprised when Richard sited me as an inspiration. Great to know other modellers take inspiration from me and have the openness to acknowledge it. Others are reluctant to credit any one else for their acheivements, which is wrong as we all learn from someone at some point. Thanks for letting me know you enjoyed it too....that is really appreciated. Cheers. Dave
Another excellent video. It is good too see Everard Junction as I run NSE stock but in N Gauge. Keep up the great work you both do as it gives many of us inspiration
Your to channels are the only 2 model related I follow on youtube, so its rather funny you're now in the same video! I made running video's of my old layout back in the late 80's using Lima locos and no DCC! when 50's, 37's were still the norm. So understand the period you two are modelling, They were good times... Why im modelling 1986
Hi thank you. There are others out there with more subs and views, but I like to think Dean Park is one of the better all round channels who doesnt chase fame and instant glory on youtube....I just love sharing my modelling, my experiences and the people I meet as part of this great hobby. Cheers. Dave
Great video guys - hard to think Richard claims not to be an expert and his electrics needs more attention - you taught me about testing and bread boards - which I still do to this day!
Great video Dave, nice to see both you and Richard discussing your interests in model railways and to understand what drives you to progress and improve your projects.
Richard, thanks for sharing this, it’s brilliant to see a bit more behind the scenes! For automation definitely look at joining MERG, there’s tons of information and kits to build electronics and automation for model railways.
absolutely fantastic !! great you pair have finally met up ..I can relate to some of what Richard had said as I also was born in the 90s and remember vividly br blue/railfreight and intercity including postal 47s ..smashing video as always love the out takes !! chris
They should get the two of you together with Luke Towan, now that would be a great discussion. Great to see of you together, maybe the new and everard junctions will be able to visit your layout soon, always interesting to see the layouts from another angle. Keep up the good work
Hi, Luke Towan's skills are brilliant. Richard invited Andy and I to Everard Junction and pulled out all the stops to give us a great day. I have invited Richard Everard and Andy to Dean Park. Hopefully that can happen soon. Cheers. Dave
Hi, thanks. Thats it....two modellers in an unscripted chatter. Thats what I wanted to come across in the video, so I am glad you've appreciated it. Cheers. Dave
Nice video guys. You are both insperation to me and the layout I hope to complete one day. Unlike Richard I am in my late 50s and just getting started.
@30:10 Rose tinted specs affect everything. I used to take the SouthWest Trains "slammers" from Woking to Waterloo in the mid-noughties, sometimes getting off at Clapham Junction. Smelly, dirty, uncomfortable, miserable machines. But every now and again I wish I could go back and ride on board one! Great video. Cheers chaps. Both of you are huge inspirations.
robotmonkey haha! We all do the rose glasses thing don’t we. I’d love to ride in a 101 again... but recall them having awful acceleration and were boiling hot inside in the winter with awful 40 watt bulbs to light the interior lol. But I lined the sound and the smell of the diesel. Dave
Fantastic Dave, really enjoyed your interviewing technique with Richard. I thought you did very well and you asked some really valid questions, you could carve out a new career in presenting your own television show!! Loved the outtakes section too, keep up with these great videos.
Hi John, well are the BBC watching?....hehe. But seriously I do far too many out takes to be a presenter, they'd fire me! Glad you enjoyed the chat we had, a lot of people are giving great feedback on this one. I wanted it to entertain and it seems to be doing that pretty well. Cheers. Dave
I found it comforting to learn that you’ve been on with your layout for 7 years up to now, I only have a couple of baseboards down in my loft so far but have boarded the floor area. It’s difficult to manage my time when I’ve got 2 young children and a full time job and jobs in the house to do. My project is only 3 months old so far, so there’s no rush. 👍🏻
Cheers. We both have our strengths, Everard for his weathering and detail on cars and rolling stock, me for my track laying, scratch builds and details. If we both combined our skills imagine what we could produce 😆
Cracking video and it's great to hear you two speak about your weaknesses to modelling proving that nobody's perfect - although your model layouts look it!
keith Crooks hi thanks. We all have areas to improve on. I’ve been told we never stop improving... that’s a bit frustrating if it’s true lol...as that means I’ll never be satisfied with what I build lol. Cheers. Dave
It's funny how time flies and how much TH-cam has grown in a short period of time. I've been an avid follower of all those channels, Richards, yours, Gleeb road, strolley, 5 elms and Bodmin jct. Though I never could fit a layout in the loft in our old house due to head height I was always there watching you chaps and wanting to get a layout under way and share on the Tube.. well 6 years later finally got a house with the perfect loft, wasn't interested in any other area of the house lol. But It's sad to see so many of those original channels gone!. Anyway, good stuff!
Hi yeah its a shame they went...they were proper modellers with such an array of skills in so many areas. Terry's weathering certainly made me envious lol. When I got the keys to my house the first place I went was up the loft....saw it was usable and the rest is youtube history lol. Get up that loft and start buiulding! haha!
Hi Dave, I really enjoyed this video, it looked like yous were all having a good time. I'll have to try and get more videos of my layouts on so I can get some of your opinions and tips.👍
You guys are brilliant, both of you have been a great source of inspiration. Well done on both spending time to put this together. I think there might be a "Cooper's Holme" channel coming.
Colin Busby haha! We ALL have things we need to work on, for some who do videos on here it’s just a few, others, a lot. But that the beauty of this hobby and of TH-cam itself. :-) Dave
Hello from the United States! I have watched your videos for years now (both of you fellows) and I must say this is a nice collaboration! I wish it was not 33 degrees celsius outside... my layout (in the attic) doesn't have any air conditioning!
Hi from across the pond. So glad you enjoyed our collaboration. We all had a great time. It was warm up his loft, but glad to say it wasnt 33 degrees outside (although it was 37 last week for a breif moment!). Cheers. Dave
I like how you was shocked when he said you influenced him in the creation of Everard Junction V2 and I just had to mention that on first seeing your two tiered layout made me rebuild my layout in the same style as yours 👍👍
ianfergalfarrar hi. Wow, I’m glad you liked my two tier so much that you tried it as well. And yes I was genuinely surprised when Richard referred to Dean Park. Very pleasant surprise :-) cheers. Dave
Great video Dave, featuring, in my opinion anyway, two of the very best railway modellers on TH-cam. Richard, for an insight on computer operation of a layout, check out the McKinley Railway videos. That is one hell of a project, but the way it is planned and put together is stunning. Thanks again guys.
13:22 I think a lot of it also applies to the Era of Steam too - you have to check how much weight the engine classes could historically pull, you have to check the shed allocations, what livery the engines were in, when their type of engine was introduced, etc., and that's what makes model railways so intricate, so timeless for me. It doesn't help that I intend to build a model railway set in Britain (I'm Canadian) myself, on a certain fictional island next to Barrow-in-Furness.
What a great time you had Dave. It clearly shows how much you enjoyed making this. I hope Richard can meet you to make something similar at Dean Park. Maybe on the Glasgow show week. Richard mentioned the brilliant work of Luke Towan who I also aspire to but you both have fantastic skills and building a much bigger scene than Luke does. It would take many years to get that level of detail all round a layout. I have the same problem as Richard in that I try to complete an area but move on to the next and then go back to add more detail later, so I know how he feels LOL. I look forward to your updates but I am pleased to hear Richard like you also puts the hobby first and not youtube. The outtakes were a great way of ending Cheers
cedarcam Hi, cheers. Richard and I get on great. We’ve kinda known of each other for 7 years since I started out. While we’ve met and chatted before it was great for Andy and I to get to see his layout. There is a mutual respect for each other and our strengths and weaknesses. It was probably the most natural chat out there. We could chatter on for hours unscripted! Two real modellers who put the layout first. I’d rather be respected as a modeller who has a TH-cam channel than be a mediocre modeller who has a good TH-cam channel. The latter can only take you so far. The layout making is the most fun bit for me. :-) Dave
Great video chaps just love to watch EJ and dean park both are very inspiring to always watch to see what's next my Tinsley TMD layout was started about the same time as you guys building on my own none stop apart from work then my friend James at Demu has been helping for the last three years but it's a massive layout with lots more to do all I can say is thankyou for your videos to both EJ and Dean park and just to say you both most welcome to tinsley tmd if ever you want to see my layout cheers Dave at Tinsley tmd
I'm 28 and also modeling a period from before I was born. I knew from the beginning what area I wanted to model but it took some time (and a few odd-ball pieces of Conrail equipment) to land on an era. Like Richard I was attracted to the variety in liveries that existed prior to the formation on Conrail here in the Northeastern US. Honestly, I ended up with the Reading Railroad as my focus because I think green and yellow "Bee Line" scheme is my favorite livery of all time. Additionally, I didn't want to do the 50s because of the relative lack of prototypical steam locomotives available in N scale. -Charles
Hi Charles, thats great to know that you like to model something from a time before you remember. I model the 80's but in reality I only really remember mid 80's onwards....but the whole era is a real passion for me. Keep up your good work. Dave
Hi thanks. James May....well no comment lol. We hopefully show modelling as it is, no frills, no hidden messages and dishonesty. Just three guys who love their hobby. Cheers, Dave
A great insight into your world Mr Everard, and the detailing is second to none, but you really need to weather those containers as they stand out like a sore thumb !! .... I work with containers every day, so would you like me to send you some photos of how they should look ?
Great video with a very easy going "interview" feel. I must confess, until he put his face in front of the camera to announce the demise of EJ1, I also thought Richard was older than he is - partly based on his choice of punk background music! You have both been an inspiration for me
davie maclean wow thanks Davie. So glad you get stuff from what we both do. You’ve been following and supportive of me for a good while and always take the time to comment where you can. I appreciate this and it’s great to have supporters such as you. Cheers. Dave
Hi, yeah the class 40 was a nice addition, Richard was keen to see it running on EJ2. He's uploading a video later tonight where there is more views of it. Cheers. Dave
Thanks for this, you and the other Richard (New Junction) have helped unify, if you like, rail modellers content providers, over the last 9 months or so, from an "outsider"/non modeller in my opinion it's helped to show the sense of community, and introduce new content providers and viewers. One thing that I always said to Richard in comments, as he was probably the first person I watched regularly maybe in 2012, was first and foremost, it's your hobby and we're only here for the ride. I guess I'm one of the patient ones, it does grate me a bit where some viewers are like, you're doing it wrong, it looks rubbish, when's the next video, etc, etc, and I just think well where's your channel. But back to the hobby, people usually stay with a hobby coz they have a passion for it, that's what I love about watching, coz you get to see people doing things to the best of their ability coz they genuinely love doing it, like you and Richard have both said in this and previous videos, if you're forced or pressured into doing things for TH-cam coz a few are crying, then you lose that passion, then what's the point, it's no longer a hobby. I honestly don't care if I wait a week, a month, several months or even a year for a video, coz I know it's going to be quality content from you guys. So yeah, ignore the pressure, enjoy the hobby, and those that care will stay around. I really enjoy your style too, the way you speak, your presenting is great, I'm a video editor, trust me I've seen much much worse haha, and you eye for detail, been loving the scratch build stuff and how you do the internals and lighting.
Hi Mark. Where do I start...firstly THANK YOU for watching and for your support of the channel. You are spot on with what you say about the pressure of doing videos after videos....I know I and Richard Everard graple with the balance of this. Some others might churn out videos, just to get a video out there, but I cant....I want to make the video as enjoyable to view as I can. I am no expert but I am learning ;-) Richard Everard is a real modeller and has a passion for authenticity....hes a man after my own heart, I love adding details to a layout or scene. I have massive respect for him and we have a mutual respect and understanding of each others skills and areas where we need to work on (weathering locos for me! lol). Thanks again and stay tuned....when the worst of the heat goes from the summer sun I will be back up the loft doing what I love....modelling.Cheers. Dave
@@DeanPark Honestly mate, quality will always outweigh quantity. It's just a fact of life today that people what everything at one. Whether that's TV or TH-cam content, or stuff they want, clothes etc. The nature of modelling means it takes time, and people must respect that, as well as jobs and other interests, which I meant to mention in my preview message. No one is ever truly an expert, and we're constantly learning, and those that are willing to do so will always produce better and better results. I've been video editing for 5 years now (I also think with my job I'm fully aware of making videos doesn't take 5 mins), and I most certainly don't know half what's to learn, just like modelling you can take it as far as you want to. I'll leave you a message on the Hornby video as that's a good example, been meaning to, with some basic tips and principles, as I know you'll take it the right way, and not me trying to tear you apart. I agree with you about Richard Everard, I think that's way I find it easy to watch you both, when I edit it's the small details that matter to me, you both also take the time to research and as a result come across as very knowledgeable. I check my TH-cam subscription page daily, I barely watch actual TV these days, so I'll spot anything. But damn yeah, the heat, I actually stopped working for 3 days last week, I mostly work from home, in a 7x7ft room, it just turned into a hotbox with the PC on too, people forget that about rail modelling, I tend not to expect many updates/uploads in the summer, as I'm fully aware many have their layouts in the attic or shed. Thanks for taking the time to reply, truly a pleasure being part of your hobby.
Georgeasaurus2001 hi, yeah he is. Most of us are...there are some who are not as open and honest but you’ll get that in any walk of life I suppose. Ask me or Richard anything and you’ll get a straight forward, honest, no caveat, no coded response. That’s how it should be, we are all here to help each other. :-) Cheers. Dave
Richard's new layout bridge is getting more video footage mileage every day what with these multiple visiting hobbyist video specials kappa - ty Dave for posting and ty both Dave and Richard for sharing your hobby so well on video : )
Interesting . I’m also starting to model the sector era....I was around aged about 20 but wasn’t interested then, it strikes me as the most “ expandable “ era for amassing interesting stock before it got really dull.
I very much enjoyed that meeting with you both. I want to ask you both, did the Hornby man bring you any luckies when he visited you both, and if so what were they. now come on chaps, spill the beans.
Great video guys. EJ, you should contact Brian at Euroscale models, for some info on automating. He had a layout around 10-15 years ago, kentish based, fully auto and on DC. Keep up the great work both of you and happy modelling
Hi, thanks for that. Richard is keen to look at the automation side of things. Its something I am interested to learn more about at some point too. Cheers. Dave
RE: "What do you need to develop and improve upon?" I hope I'm not repeating anyone else, but when it comes to moving on to a new scenic section before a current one is finished, I'm not sure it matters. In fact, perhaps because it's an artistic endeavour it might be healthy to walk away, because sometimes a new detail idea will just spring to mind which can be noted, and then applied to that given area when time becomes available. As for wiring colour codes, hopefully NMRA standards may have guidelines for that, and it's worth it because it doesn't matter what colour wires are what, or joined to whatever when it's all hidden away - until you need to trace a fault and fix it and your brain just wants to explode trying to figure out what's what! Also, you can learn more about model railway electronics by joining MERG - Model Railway Electronic Group - who produce a comprehensive range of module kits starting from beginner, and increasing in technical complexity as your confidence grows along with your layout's requirements. They also have area groups which meet at regular intervals and give useful talks and presentations. Thanks for getting together and making such an engaging video, it's so refreshing to have such committed young minds and faces taking an interest in the hobby, and utilising new technology to reproduce the past with such aplomb. My first train set was a Triang-Hornby Flying Scotsman set in 1970 for Christmas when I was just 5!
Great interview I was quite taken back as like many I thought Richard was a lot older that he actually is. The 80's was a great period to be a train spotter. When I seriously started spotting back in 82 everything was blue with the odd red buffer beam on some of the namers. Then came large logo and intercity then this huge explosion of colour as the decade moved on towards the 90's. Once the units started to take over and then privatisation I lost interest hence my current layout Wemblesden is set mid 80's.
I remember when this new mag came out called Rail Enthusiast (now Rail) one of my school friends used to get it. It documented the run down of the deltics as well as everything else that was going on the network. The following summer we decided to cycle across the the nearby ECML every night after school where we watched the last days of the 25's, 40's 45's & 46's. The HST's were not that old back then and only started to get interesting when they started having names fitted. In 83 we stayed in a caravan for a week right next to the WCML where I fell in love with the AC locos. After leaving school in 84 a group of us bought north east rail rover tickets and clocked up over 1000 miles in a week before we all went our separate ways. Best spotting place I went was Carlisle as they still did loco changes there. You used to get scottish 47's come down where an AC would take over for the journey south. Also used to get the odd 26 if you were lucky. ;)
Oh god, that EJ bloke again! Surely everybody is fed up with him by now! Seriously though thanks for coming to see the layout, I had a really good time. I'd love to see Dean Park in the flesh as it was a major source of inspiration for my new layout. Will have to book some more time off, cheers. Richard
Haha! People are going to be bleedin' sick of him lol. Yeah I had a blast, two days that have defined summer 2019 for me are the Hornby visit and my Everard day. I'll get the goo gone out for your visit, you'll feel at home with the smell. ;-) Cheers. Dave
You will have to visit Glasgow Richard next year and see if we can visit Dean Park at the same time Andy
always interesting Richard.
I was working for NSE 3 years befire you were born!
Very Interesting, I find myself in a similar boat. Having been born in 96, but I model the LNER in 1937/8 on the Great Eastern in OO and on the ECML in 0 so I find myself doing the same as you. Lots of research and finding photographs & videos. All very interesting.
I started working for BR InterCity &ScotRail in 1986. I worked 47 Push Pulls&HSTs on E&G all Scotland's 47s were transferred to the Network SouthEast after we got 158s.
Great seeing you both talking. Im 57 and never actually had a train set from new but now thinking of getting my first one soon because of you guys. Thanks.
It’s never too late to start. 57….still young enough. But avoid crawling on your knees if you do get a layout going lol, as even in my mid 40’s I’m feeling the result of crawling about my loft for 10 years 😆
@@DeanPark lol absolutely. I run a fair bit and have dodgy knees so think the loft is out but im eying my garage and even the Mrs has suggested that so maybe 😄
I must admit I too thought Richard was my age (50s) by the way he talks with such knowledge and authenticity and his choice of words.
I’ve never been all that interested in model railways but am fascinated by the model making, attention to detail and interpretation of an era that you two bring to TH-cam.
Really enjoyed this chat between you two.
Hi, thanks. Really glad you enjoyed it. Cheers. Dave
Ah you guys are great , so good to see and hear you reminiscing and exchanging memories, you were both my inspiration back in 2012/13/14 , we had the odd exchange when I was ‘OldOakCorner’ .. same era as you guys . Alas took it all to bits when my son was due to make storage room in the loft . Since moved and have a man space I built in the garage, where I run a few remaining locos .. moved more into scale modelling , sci-fi kits etc looking to dioramas , miss the sound of a running session , it could get quite loud ! There will be another proper layout for me at some point one day , still have boxes of stuff I spent many an hour over .. keep it up fellas and thanks for all that inspiration you gave me , and still give me as I dip in and out of your channels .. the modelling skills I practice now all stem from those OldOakCorner days watching you both on TH-cam . Many many thanks ! Simon , @ModelbuildStar
Mr mondo Hi Simon good to hear from you... we’ve chatted before!
I had a great day with Richard, really enjoyed watching and running trains on the layout. He came up to visit me in October. This hobby really gives you great fun and new friends. Dave.
Hi Dave , great to hear you remember me . I have one treasured 4 min running session on video of the OldOakCorner ! I watch now and then and amaze myself at all the graft I put in . So much fun too !
Really good to see you boys all connecting in the flesh and making videos with the old and new .
All the best
Simon
"I like me 47 with a clapped out rake of MK2s behind it... I wouldn't wanna go on it as a passenger paying the fares, but as a model it's nice."
🤣🤣🤣 What an absolutely picture perfect quote from an 80's era modeler.
As a modeler in his early 30's I can totally relate to Richard's answer regarding colour. Even before blue we had some wonderful colour in our railways. Brown and white, red and cream, greens and then suddenly blue, blue everywhere, everything blue. Then all of a sudden we're hit with these amazing liveries, and Richard's trains running in the background paint the picture perfectly. Blue and grey DMU, Intercity behind RES, full NSE both with a bit of old blue/grey mixed in. Moving North we have Scotrail and Intercity mixed in the Blue/Grey. I see a lot of grey in modern trains. Grey?! They might as well have just left it primed and took the cost of paint off the ticket prices.
For me it's the clicking of the 86/7's. I can still hear that, standing at the end of Lime Street. 90's and the mighty 91's in IC livery. EJ would look amazing with overhead, eh? All of those electrics but still 37's, 47's, even 40's rumbling around the place. I remember the 158's and 92's being new 😐
Hi, thanks. Ohhh I am not sure you'd get Richard putting OHLE in! lol Dave
Yeah, I must admit I had a little giggle at that, what a brilliant quote...
I think those are the coaches I used to travel in as a kid, there was a corridor and seperate little rooms which from memory would sit about six passengers. I actually enjoyed it until some stranger sat opposite you , I much preferred having the room to ourselves LOL
Two of the most attentioned to details chaps around. Thanks for your videos
I think one reason, if not THE reason you, Richard, Luke Towan, Jason Jensen et al, are doing so well is your willingness and intention to continually learn, grow and improve your skills. That your videos are well made with good sound, focus, pacing, etc. is of course important, but that's simply necessary to provide a platform for the content, regardless of what it is. I know from participation on model railroad forums that too many modelers seem content to settle for mediocre. Perhaps they are afraid to try or maybe they are part of the culture that doesn't value excellence. You prove that it is possible to find great enjoyment in the hobby while striving to do better.
I appreciate your willingness to share your progress and I wish you the best in all your modeling endeavors! Cheers just now.
Thank you so much for those kind words and encouragement.
You’re right,too many people settle for mediocrity and don’t try new things. Some people on the other hand try things just in order to put a video together.
I know from speaking to Richard that he is in the same mindset as me, in that we only release videos when we feel there is valuable content to share. I’m not in the market for churning out pointless videos as people get sick of contrived and poorly produced content.
You’re totally right when you say it’s possible to have enjoyment whilst learning new things.After all isn’t that what the hobby is all about?
Thanks for watching and I hope you continue to enjoy the videos that I produce. Cheers. Dave
Nice to hear the story behind the Everard Junction layout ... great tribute ...
I've been enjoying watching the EJ videos over the last few months as it' progresses. This is a great breather video for you, taking a break and chatting with a fellow enthusiastic modeller. It's good to watch and take in each others ideas, likes and other hobbies. Nice one lads! Thanks!👍👍
Cheers Gus, glad to enjoyed watching. Dean park and Everard junction are very similar layouts. It’s great to share a day with him.
Great down to earth video of a group of modellers enjoying each others company.
Really enjoying it. Out of all the channels I think I watch Dean Park,Everard and Charlie at Chadwick the most. Charlie does great informative videos.
Hi Robin. Thanks for that and your support over a long period of time. Richard, myself and Charlie are three modellers who are on youtube. There are a lot of youtubers who try to model, if that makes sense. The sole purpose for Richard and my channel is to model first and youtube second. Thats the way it should be in my opinion. We just love what we do and I hope that came across in that video. Cheers. Dave
What a fascinating chat with two of my favourite modellers. I would like to sincerely thank you both for putting this wonderful video on TH-cam. Cheers Greg
Greg Hale Hi Greg. Thanks. I really enjoyed chatting to Richard. Was great that Richard hosted Andy and I, three proper modellers chatting about this wonderful hobby. One of my favourite videos. Cheers. Dave
lovely vid mate . Dean park and Everard junction the best layouts on youtube for me
VERY kind of you to say so mate. There are many better modellers out there and there are some who try to better me, that’s great, but I’m just loving my modelling and meeting genuine real modellers. Really enjoyed making this video. We get in very well and he’s a very genuine bloke. Cheers. Dave
Well Gentlemen, what can I say..... that video is just superb on so many levels.
As always, very informative and great to hear both of your experiences of learning how to do things while your railways evolved. Interesting things I’m taking away from the video are that the railway is what you want it to be, it grows at the pace that is right for you, it’s what you do because it’s what you enjoy doing, no way is the right way or the wrong way and don’t ever think that it’s finished !
I enjoyed the video because I felt as though I was sitting in the loft with you sharing your conversations ! But it was more than just a discussion about a shared interest, it was two really nice guys, two talented guys, chatting together about something that motivates them, sharing openly their thoughts, knowledge and experiences and without agenda or reward, that’s incredibly generous of you, thank you so much.
Dave, I’ve previously mentioned to you soon after I found your channel, that I’m going to embark on building my own railway, Pevenbourne. Well, my railway room has now been cleared of all the stuff that was dumped there after we moved into the house and all that’s left is my model trains and buses. Next job, putting some sockets around the skirting board in trunking, then new LED track lighting around the ceiling. After that, I’ll be wallpapering around the upper part of the room with blue sky and clouds wallpaper before putting up some cabinets for my 130 or so model buses. And then, I’ll be starting on the lower level boards for the railway. The design of the railway is mostly completed, it’s on two levels with a helix. Lower level will be sidings and a turntable yard. Upper part will be the main running layout. Hopefully, timeline is to get the room to the point of starting to do the lower level boards early next year and then gradually over then next year or two complete the lower level, then the helix and then the upper level. I’m retiring in October 2023 and the railway will be my retirement project. Can’t wait to get started on the lower level so that I can get some trains running. I love watching your videos, it’s all useful information for me for when I build my layouts.
Thanks again gents, I may have one or two questions for your over the coming years !
Looking forward to the reciprocal video when Everard Junction visits Dean Park !
My best wishes and kindest regards to you both.
Bryan
Bryan Lane Bryan, I’m am blown away by your comment. Than you for taking the time to get in touch.
Richard and I could have chatted for hours more! Two modelling friends who are both passionate about doing it right. We are always learning and both of us were open and honest about our stage in the hobby. I’m so glad you picked up on the informal nature of the video, that’s exactly what I was trying to achieve.
As for your project, it’s great to read that you’re now getting geared up to go for it! By 2023 you will have made god progress, so hopefully retirement will give you the time to really push on with it.
I’ll let Richard know about your comment too.
Thanks again for getting in touch. You’re a gentleman. Warmest regards.
Dave
Some great layouts out there on TH-cam at the moment, but these are undoubtedly two of the best!
Great video. These videos covering behind the scenes on who the modeller is I really enjoy. So much great content in this video. Thanks for filming and sharing, Clint at Leila Central.
Hi, yeah it was something different that has not been done as much by others. I really enjoyed seeing the layout and the three of us had a great (if not warm) day. Cheers. Dave
Brilliant video Dave' great questions and banter ...you and Richard are Modelling Royalty' Cheers'
Ralph West haha... royalty. There’s a few who would disagree and are even trying hard to be ‘better’. I’m just in it for the love of railways and talking about railways with guys like Richard, Andy, and my mate mike and many many others.
What a really great video. Thank you so much for taking the time to do that guys... Or let us share in it with you as it were.
Two_Heads_Talking thanks for stopping by, it’s great you enjoyed it. :-) Dave.
@@DeanPark I did... I did
Watching it was really nice to see some colour to the personallites behind the voices. Ive been watching you both for so long now. It really made me think about the amount of effort that goes into the production of the videos I kinda take for granted as there is a level of professionalism you must have in each one.. The bloopers are the best big :-)
Ah the two most inspirational layouts I follow on You Tube together at last. Nice video, the out-takes made me smile. Thank you for taking the time to video a great get together. I remember the 1980's as that was my train spotting years, great times were had, and brought back to mind by your layouts.
Regards Dave.
Hi Dave, thanks for getting in touch to say that. Great to hear you smiled at the out takes....I was almost drying by the end of the opening shot....it took me about 8 attempts! Love an out take as well. lol. Dave
Having followed you both for a few years now, it's great to see the two of you together joking like this. It's beyond just comments back and forth videos now - it's great to see the progression of TH-cam (like you talked about) in how what was almost solitary and very much behind the cameras stuff is now much more in front of the camera and really being able to see faces and interactions. Looks like you all have good fun at shows and events like this, and makes the layouts much personable and relatable. Keep enjoying yourselves and keeping it all as a hobby at the end of the day. Iain
Newcastle Central (OO Gauge) hi Iain. Yeah it’s great to meet a fellow modeller and chat freely and unscripted. We could have chatted for hours and hours about our hobby.
Thanks for those kind words :-)
Cheers
Dave
A wonderful production Dave, and you can clearly see the cross fertilisation of ideas that have produced such amazing layouts. It was good to see Richard with you, and finally, those Out-takes were hilarious....So much to see and absorb...I love it...Best wishes...Bob
Robert Masterman hi Bob, it was good good fun! We had so many laughs and lots of chat on and off the camera.
We are both modellers and both (including Andy Hudson) shared a lot of ideas, techniques and tips with each other. It showed how willing we all were to help each other, no strings attached. A Genuinely nice bloke!
There was no getting soppy over each other’s skills, but mutual respect. Could have chatted for hours... but my battery ran out! :-) Dave.
Hi Dave, I think both Yourself, Richard and Andy have all done you TH-cam channels proud this week, it’s been great to see you all attend Richards Layout and I do hope Richard will attend Dean Park Station soon to. It’s been a great laugh and to see and hear your banter between each other as been great. It’s been a really great get together party lol Great blog and certainly one of the best as I remember seeing you all at the Warley Open Day back in June 2019. Superb 👍Thumbs Up 👍to all of you guys.
Jamie Smith hi Jamie. It was just banter from start to finish...hardly any of it was planned, I had the odd question planned the rest just went off at a tangent and we just flowed. Probably one of the most natural meeting between two modellers on TH-cam. We had a blast. Richard has been invited to dean park, as has Andy. :-) cheers. Dave
Ah nice one Dave, look forward to those blogs in the future. Really enjoyed your interview with Simon aka Hornby blog, I couldn’t have chose a better modeller if i tried. Right man for all the questions you asked. Especially on Colours of coaches etc, from different manufacturers, you hit the nail on the head with several of your question. I would love to see that interview again in the future with Simon to see if anything as been done and things are moving forward. One of the best Hornby TH-cam blog EVER...!?! Huge 👍Thumbs Up 👍
Great vid by two of the best modellers on YT. These type of vids are great.
Hal Apenyo hi, thank you. So glad you enjoyed it. :-) Dave
Two smashing guys with probably the two best privately owned 00 gauge layouts in the country, thank you guys..
Oh wow! Thank you. Richard and I are very similar modellers in many ways and it was great to see his work. Along with Andy from the Warley club (his video will follow tomorrow night on the warley channel) we had a great time. Cheers. Dave
Enjoy watching you guys,both terrific modellers.keep up the great work lads,both have terrific layouts.
TOM MAHONEY hi, thank you so much for your kind feedback :-) cheers. Dave
This is really my favourite Channel!
Thanks for your nice Videos,
it is very enlightening,
Waiting for your latest update.
Dean Park
A very enjoyable video featuring 3 top blokes. Thanks.
Well done Dave. Down to earth, no pushing product and very enjoyable. Thank you. Jerry
Jerry Allen cheers Jerry really glad you and others enjoyed that. :-)
Thanks for such a brilliant informative video.. I so interesting see and listen to the faces behind the videos and to understand more about the layouts their creators and what the motivation is for a particular layout. I really enjoy these .."Meets" videos. they give us such great inspiration for our own efforts within the hobby.
Hi Chris, thanks for kind words. Its great to meet other modellers and freely share your hints and tips. Richard couldnt have been more helpful on the day. No questions unanswered, no secrets kept lol. A really great day. Cheers. Dave
I agree with you about the sheer complexity of electronics and programming a timetable. Almost like the holy grail.
I'm still here lads and you never know i may just return one day!!! Loved the video guys and Richard the layout looks totally amazing. Keep up the good work guys.
Terry
Glebe Road Junction.
Cheers Terry....you're name lives on until your next layout is born! ;-) Cheers. Dave
Great to see all these cross-over videos with you sharing your passions and experiences of the hobby. The out-takes are a great laugh as well. "I'm putting my camera in the corner for this... 😂" Fantastic seeing how things are progressing, looking forward to more of the same.
Leon McInnes yeah thanks. It was a real hoot trying to get my first clip filmed... I could not get it right lol. I did after about 8 attempts. Cheers. Dave
Excellent video, good to see proper scale modelling on show! Also liking the outtakes part of the videos, it’s fun to see people laughing and enjoying the hobby, you can tell it’s genuine laughter, unlike some videos I’ve seen with fake, nervous laughs and forced smiles. Keep it up 👍🏼
Hi, thanks. Yeah natural laughter and smiles, no fake or contrived nonsense here. lol. 100% proper modelling. Lots of mutual respect on show from all three of us and geniune chat. It wasnt really a 'visit' or an 'interview', it was a 'get togther' of friends. Cheers.
I loved this video so much! Thanks guys, I will continue to watch both Dean Park Station, and Everard Junction for both inspiration and information 👍
Thomas Sparks cheers Thomas. I so glad you enjoyed Richard and myself having a chat! :-) I really enjoyed it. Dave
Great video. Really enjoyed watching it. Your interview technique is a natural one, despite the out-takes!
Looking forward to seeing Richard visit Dean Park at some point.
👍🏻 Spot-on!
Darren Hillman hi Darren, it was a great day and Richard is a top guy! We are both very relaxed and I hope the natural relaxed atmosphere came across.
I really hope Richard can visit Dean Park at some point. He’s more than welcome. :-)
Cheers
Dave
Fabulous video , very enjoyable to watch you at Everard Junction . I restarted my hobby in 2012 when I retired and have followed you both learning as you did from TH-cam , when ever I have had occasion to ask you about problems I was having or just general queries you didn't hesitate to answer them . Thanks Dave and Richard .
Cheers.......Peter
Peter Shaw hi peter. Very kind of you to say that. Thank you. I always try to remember to reply to everyone. I sometimes forget but if I ever do, just give me another nudge lol. Cheers. Dave
Loved it, great insight into the starting point of my interest in making a layout. Interesting to note he got inspiration from you Dave to make mk2..... Thanks for getting together for this and great to see two top you tube Modellers’ getting it on video. Great watch, cheers, Chris
Hi, this meeting had been a long long time in the planning and it worked out great. I was surprised when Richard sited me as an inspiration. Great to know other modellers take inspiration from me and have the openness to acknowledge it. Others are reluctant to credit any one else for their acheivements, which is wrong as we all learn from someone at some point. Thanks for letting me know you enjoyed it too....that is really appreciated. Cheers. Dave
Another excellent video. It is good too see Everard Junction as I run NSE stock but in N Gauge. Keep up the great work you both do as it gives many of us inspiration
Fording Town hi, thanks so much I do like the NSE livery. I’ve even got a couple of locos of that livery too :-) Cheers. Dave
Your to channels are the only 2 model related I follow on youtube, so its rather funny you're now in the same video! I made running video's of my old layout back in the late 80's using Lima locos and no DCC! when 50's, 37's were still the norm. So understand the period you two are modelling, They were good times... Why im modelling 1986
Hi thank you. There are others out there with more subs and views, but I like to think Dean Park is one of the better all round channels who doesnt chase fame and instant glory on youtube....I just love sharing my modelling, my experiences and the people I meet as part of this great hobby. Cheers. Dave
Definitely didn't disapoint there guy's that was gold. Brilliant 😂 keep up the good work 👍
Stephen Bates glad you enjoyed it. We had a great time :-) Dave
Great video guys - hard to think Richard claims not to be an expert and his electrics needs more attention - you taught me about testing and bread boards - which I still do to this day!
Neal Ball haha, there’s always something new to learn and into improve on. Thanks, glad you enjoyed that. :-)
Great video Dave, nice to see both you and Richard discussing your interests in model railways and to understand what drives you to progress and improve your projects.
Richard, thanks for sharing this, it’s brilliant to see a bit more behind the scenes!
For automation definitely look at joining MERG, there’s tons of information and kits to build electronics and automation for model railways.
Ian Jordan I’ll let Richard know :-) cheers
Dave
@@DeanPark thanks, sorry hadn't spotted which of your two channels I was watching at the time! Thanks for all the work done putting this together.
absolutely fantastic !! great you pair have finally met up ..I can relate to some of what Richard had said as I also was born in the 90s and remember vividly br blue/railfreight and intercity including postal 47s ..smashing video as always love the out takes !! chris
mamodsteam returns hi thanks. Richard and I did most of that chat off the cuff, it just flowed very easily. :-) Dave
Thank you both very much!
Tom Haythornthwaite my pleasure. I’m glad you enjoyed it. Cheers. Dave
They should get the two of you together with Luke Towan, now that would be a great discussion.
Great to see of you together, maybe the new and everard junctions will be able to visit your layout soon, always interesting to see the layouts from another angle.
Keep up the good work
Hi, Luke Towan's skills are brilliant. Richard invited Andy and I to Everard Junction and pulled out all the stops to give us a great day. I have invited Richard Everard and Andy to Dean Park. Hopefully that can happen soon. Cheers. Dave
Great video ,great layout Good to see two great modellers talking about their layouts and sharing it with everyone
Hi, thanks. Thats it....two modellers in an unscripted chatter. Thats what I wanted to come across in the video, so I am glad you've appreciated it. Cheers. Dave
Nice video guys. You are both insperation to me and the layout I hope to complete one day. Unlike Richard I am in my late 50s and just getting started.
@30:10 Rose tinted specs affect everything. I used to take the SouthWest Trains "slammers" from Woking to Waterloo in the mid-noughties, sometimes getting off at Clapham Junction. Smelly, dirty, uncomfortable, miserable machines. But every now and again I wish I could go back and ride on board one!
Great video. Cheers chaps. Both of you are huge inspirations.
robotmonkey haha! We all do the rose glasses thing don’t we. I’d love to ride in a 101 again... but recall them having awful acceleration and were boiling hot inside in the winter with awful 40 watt bulbs to light the interior lol. But I lined the sound and the smell of the diesel. Dave
@@DeanPark Ah the smell of Blue WKD vomit, tears and diesel fumes - that's the smell of Pure Woking. lol
Fantastic Dave, really enjoyed your interviewing technique with Richard. I thought you did very well and you asked some really valid questions, you could carve out a new career in presenting your own television show!! Loved the outtakes section too, keep up with these great videos.
Hi John, well are the BBC watching?....hehe. But seriously I do far too many out takes to be a presenter, they'd fire me! Glad you enjoyed the chat we had, a lot of people are giving great feedback on this one. I wanted it to entertain and it seems to be doing that pretty well. Cheers. Dave
I found it comforting to learn that you’ve been on with your layout for 7 years up to now, I only have a couple of baseboards down in my loft so far but have boarded the floor area. It’s difficult to manage my time when I’ve got 2 young children and a full time job and jobs in the house to do. My project is only 3 months old so far, so there’s no rush. 👍🏻
Dean Park and Everard Junction are the premium layouts in the UK IMHO.
They really turn my crank best!
Cheers. We both have our strengths, Everard for his weathering and detail on cars and rolling stock, me for my track laying, scratch builds and details. If we both combined our skills imagine what we could produce 😆
@@DeanPark I appreciate that you use Sound in your diesels ... I for one feel DCC adds so much to the hobby.
Cracking video and it's great to hear you two speak about your weaknesses to modelling proving that nobody's perfect - although your model layouts look it!
keith Crooks hi thanks. We all have areas to improve on. I’ve been told we never stop improving... that’s a bit frustrating if it’s true lol...as that means I’ll never be satisfied with what I build lol. Cheers. Dave
It's funny how time flies and how much TH-cam has grown in a short period of time.
I've been an avid follower of all those channels, Richards, yours, Gleeb road, strolley, 5 elms and Bodmin jct.
Though I never could fit a layout in the loft in our old house due to head height I was always there watching you chaps and wanting to get a layout under way and share on the Tube.. well 6 years later finally got a house with the perfect loft, wasn't interested in any other area of the house lol. But
It's sad to see so many of those original channels gone!.
Anyway, good stuff!
Hi yeah its a shame they went...they were proper modellers with such an array of skills in so many areas. Terry's weathering certainly made me envious lol.
When I got the keys to my house the first place I went was up the loft....saw it was usable and the rest is youtube history lol. Get up that loft and start buiulding! haha!
Hi Dave, I really enjoyed this video, it looked like yous were all having a good time. I'll have to try and get more videos of my layouts on so I can get some of your opinions and tips.👍
You guys are brilliant, both of you have been a great source of inspiration. Well done on both spending time to put this together. I think there might be a "Cooper's Holme" channel coming.
Ian cooper haha. Thanks.
Great Q&A session. Thanks for the effort to explain. You both are great inspiration.
When two of the more popular gods of model railway say they have weaknesses, there is hope for me yet thank you guys.
Colin Busby haha! We ALL have things we need to work on, for some who do videos on here it’s just a few, others, a lot. But that the beauty of this hobby and of TH-cam itself. :-) Dave
Hello from the United States! I have watched your videos for years now (both of you fellows) and I must say this is a nice collaboration! I wish it was not 33 degrees celsius outside... my layout (in the attic) doesn't have any air conditioning!
Hi from across the pond. So glad you enjoyed our collaboration. We all had a great time. It was warm up his loft, but glad to say it wasnt 33 degrees outside (although it was 37 last week for a breif moment!). Cheers. Dave
Great video Dave, always a fun watch look forward to the next video
Hockwold Junction thanks. I actually enjoyed watching this one myself lol. Cheers. Dave
I like how you was shocked when he said you influenced him in the creation of Everard Junction V2 and I just had to mention that on first seeing your two tiered layout made me rebuild my layout in the same style as yours 👍👍
ianfergalfarrar hi. Wow, I’m glad you liked my two tier so much that you tried it as well. And yes I was genuinely surprised when Richard referred to Dean Park. Very pleasant surprise :-) cheers. Dave
@@DeanPark no worries and keep up the good work 👍 👍 👍
Great video Dave, featuring, in my opinion anyway, two of the very best railway modellers on TH-cam. Richard, for an insight on computer operation of a layout, check out the McKinley Railway videos. That is one hell of a project, but the way it is planned and put together is stunning. Thanks again guys.
Kevin Mottram Hi!, cheers. Very kind of you to say that :-) appreciate it Dave
May sound strange, but even as a 'yank' I want to build a UK section on my train layout.
British trains and scenery are beautiful.
Ricochet hi some of the British scenery is lovely. :-) Dave
Cracking video with 2 exponents of the art of railway modelling!
doogs126 hi, thank you. You’re right...it is an art. :-) Dave
Great video, both of you give me so much inspiration to build my layout to a great standard.
Cheers Andy :-)
No worries. A keen follower of both layouts and the Facebook page.
Great video, loved the out-takes 😂👏👏👏👏👏👏
Andy Fadian haha, yeah I could probably do an out takes video every week... I have a few &@#* moments when I’m filming :-) Dave
What can one say but a great video and some wonderful insights. Thanks for sharing!
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I think a lot of it also applies to the Era of Steam too - you have to check how much weight the engine classes could historically pull, you have to check the shed allocations, what livery the engines were in, when their type of engine was introduced, etc., and that's what makes model railways so intricate, so timeless for me. It doesn't help that I intend to build a model railway set in Britain (I'm Canadian) myself, on a certain fictional island next to Barrow-in-Furness.
What a great time you had Dave. It clearly shows how much you enjoyed making this. I hope Richard can meet you to make something similar at Dean Park. Maybe on the Glasgow show week. Richard mentioned the brilliant work of Luke Towan who I also aspire to but you both have fantastic skills and building a much bigger scene than Luke does. It would take many years to get that level of detail all round a layout. I have the same problem as Richard in that I try to complete an area but move on to the next and then go back to add more detail later, so I know how he feels LOL. I look forward to your updates but I am pleased to hear Richard like you also puts the hobby first and not youtube. The outtakes were a great way of ending Cheers
cedarcam Hi, cheers. Richard and I get on great. We’ve kinda known of each other for 7 years since I started out. While we’ve met and chatted before it was great for Andy and I to get to see his layout. There is a mutual respect for each other and our strengths and weaknesses. It was probably the most natural chat out there. We could chatter on for hours unscripted! Two real modellers who put the layout first.
I’d rather be respected as a modeller who has a TH-cam channel than be a mediocre modeller who has a good TH-cam channel. The latter can only take you so far.
The layout making is the most fun bit for me. :-) Dave
Great video chaps just love to watch EJ and dean park both are very inspiring to always watch to see what's next my Tinsley TMD layout was started about the same time as you guys building on my own none stop apart from work then my friend James at Demu has been helping for the last three years but it's a massive layout with lots more to do all I can say is thankyou for your videos to both EJ and Dean park and just to say you both most welcome to tinsley tmd if ever you want to see my layout cheers Dave at Tinsley tmd
Hi Dave, many many thanks. I have tinsely on my 'to see' list, one day I will pop in ;-) Dave
That was brilliant, loved it all and especially the out takes.
Scott Malcolm haha yes they were funny if I do say so myself lol
A very enjoyable and fun video to watch. Thanks guys.
Hi Dave, thanks, glad you enjoyed it. I had great fun with this one. Cheers. Dave
I'm 28 and also modeling a period from before I was born. I knew from the beginning what area I wanted to model but it took some time (and a few odd-ball pieces of Conrail equipment) to land on an era. Like Richard I was attracted to the variety in liveries that existed prior to the formation on Conrail here in the Northeastern US. Honestly, I ended up with the Reading Railroad as my focus because I think green and yellow "Bee Line" scheme is my favorite livery of all time. Additionally, I didn't want to do the 50s because of the relative lack of prototypical steam locomotives available in N scale.
-Charles
Hi Charles, thats great to know that you like to model something from a time before you remember. I model the 80's but in reality I only really remember mid 80's onwards....but the whole era is a real passion for me. Keep up your good work. Dave
Nice work Dave et al. The production quality of these videos are tremendous and I think James May could learn a thing or two.
Hi thanks. James May....well no comment lol. We hopefully show modelling as it is, no frills, no hidden messages and dishonesty. Just three guys who love their hobby. Cheers, Dave
A great insight into your world Mr Everard, and the detailing is second to none, but you really need to weather those containers as they stand out like a sore thumb !! .... I work with containers every day, so would you like me to send you some photos of how they should look ?
What a great video very interesting two of the best modellers on you tube keep it going enjoy to watch the videos
john taylor hi John, thanks. Really enjoyed filming this video so I’m glad you liked it too. Cheers. Dave
Thanks for the video absolutely loved it cheers Steve
Stalax Junction hi Steve! Thanks. I enjoyed this one :-)
Great video with a very easy going "interview" feel. I must confess, until he put his face in front of the camera to announce the demise of EJ1, I also thought Richard was older than he is - partly based on his choice of punk background music! You have both been an inspiration for me
davie maclean wow thanks Davie. So glad you get stuff from what we both do. You’ve been following and supportive of me for a good while and always take the time to comment where you can. I appreciate this and it’s great to have supporters such as you. Cheers. Dave
@@DeanPark You are welcome.
Great video Dave looked good with some of your locos on his layout
Hi, yeah the class 40 was a nice addition, Richard was keen to see it running on EJ2. He's uploading a video later tonight where there is more views of it. Cheers. Dave
Thanks for this, you and the other Richard (New Junction) have helped unify, if you like, rail modellers content providers, over the last 9 months or so, from an "outsider"/non modeller in my opinion it's helped to show the sense of community, and introduce new content providers and viewers.
One thing that I always said to Richard in comments, as he was probably the first person I watched regularly maybe in 2012, was first and foremost, it's your hobby and we're only here for the ride. I guess I'm one of the patient ones, it does grate me a bit where some viewers are like, you're doing it wrong, it looks rubbish, when's the next video, etc, etc, and I just think well where's your channel. But back to the hobby, people usually stay with a hobby coz they have a passion for it, that's what I love about watching, coz you get to see people doing things to the best of their ability coz they genuinely love doing it, like you and Richard have both said in this and previous videos, if you're forced or pressured into doing things for TH-cam coz a few are crying, then you lose that passion, then what's the point, it's no longer a hobby. I honestly don't care if I wait a week, a month, several months or even a year for a video, coz I know it's going to be quality content from you guys. So yeah, ignore the pressure, enjoy the hobby, and those that care will stay around.
I really enjoy your style too, the way you speak, your presenting is great, I'm a video editor, trust me I've seen much much worse haha, and you eye for detail, been loving the scratch build stuff and how you do the internals and lighting.
Hi Mark. Where do I start...firstly THANK YOU for watching and for your support of the channel. You are spot on with what you say about the pressure of doing videos after videos....I know I and Richard Everard graple with the balance of this. Some others might churn out videos, just to get a video out there, but I cant....I want to make the video as enjoyable to view as I can. I am no expert but I am learning ;-) Richard Everard is a real modeller and has a passion for authenticity....hes a man after my own heart, I love adding details to a layout or scene. I have massive respect for him and we have a mutual respect and understanding of each others skills and areas where we need to work on (weathering locos for me! lol).
Thanks again and stay tuned....when the worst of the heat goes from the summer sun I will be back up the loft doing what I love....modelling.Cheers. Dave
@@DeanPark Honestly mate, quality will always outweigh quantity. It's just a fact of life today that people what everything at one. Whether that's TV or TH-cam content, or stuff they want, clothes etc. The nature of modelling means it takes time, and people must respect that, as well as jobs and other interests, which I meant to mention in my preview message.
No one is ever truly an expert, and we're constantly learning, and those that are willing to do so will always produce better and better results. I've been video editing for 5 years now (I also think with my job I'm fully aware of making videos doesn't take 5 mins), and I most certainly don't know half what's to learn, just like modelling you can take it as far as you want to. I'll leave you a message on the Hornby video as that's a good example, been meaning to, with some basic tips and principles, as I know you'll take it the right way, and not me trying to tear you apart.
I agree with you about Richard Everard, I think that's way I find it easy to watch you both, when I edit it's the small details that matter to me, you both also take the time to research and as a result come across as very knowledgeable.
I check my TH-cam subscription page daily, I barely watch actual TV these days, so I'll spot anything. But damn yeah, the heat, I actually stopped working for 3 days last week, I mostly work from home, in a 7x7ft room, it just turned into a hotbox with the PC on too, people forget that about rail modelling, I tend not to expect many updates/uploads in the summer, as I'm fully aware many have their layouts in the attic or shed.
Thanks for taking the time to reply, truly a pleasure being part of your hobby.
Richard allways comes across as a really nice guy, thumbs up
Georgeasaurus2001 hi, yeah he is. Most of us are...there are some who are not as open and honest but you’ll get that in any walk of life I suppose. Ask me or Richard anything and you’ll get a straight forward, honest, no caveat, no coded response. That’s how it should be, we are all here to help each other. :-) Cheers. Dave
Richard's new layout bridge is getting more video footage mileage every day what with these multiple visiting hobbyist video specials kappa - ty Dave for posting and ty both Dave and Richard for sharing your hobby so well on video : )
Hi thanks. Glad you enjoyed it....the bridge is a great angle to video from ;-) Cheers. Dave
Great video David
Perhaps if Richard ever gets the "other" project on the road he could drive up to Dean park station!
Haha. I’ll ask Richard! Cheers
Interesting . I’m also starting to model the sector era....I was around aged about 20 but wasn’t interested then, it strikes me as the most “ expandable “ era for amassing interesting stock before it got really dull.
Really interesting video. Great insights
Hi, thanks Russell, glad you enjoyed it. Dave
I very much enjoyed that meeting with you both. I want to ask you both, did the Hornby man bring you any luckies when he visited you both, and if so what were they. now come on chaps, spill the beans.
Great video guys. EJ, you should contact Brian at Euroscale models, for some info on automating. He had a layout around 10-15 years ago, kentish based, fully auto and on DC. Keep up the great work both of you and happy modelling
Hi, thanks for that. Richard is keen to look at the automation side of things. Its something I am interested to learn more about at some point too. Cheers. Dave
Great video - a brilliant advert for the hobby. Euan
The Growler - Blackwood N Gauge Layout Hi Euan, cheers, appreciate your comment there :-) Dave
Hi Dave
Super video, some very interesting stuff.
Cheers Paul
Dunge Wood Model Railway thanks glad you enjoyed it :-) Dave
Two thumbs up guys, great vid great layouts👍
Mark Franks cheers. So glad you liked it. :-)
You guys are amazing.
hI, wow...thanks, I aint sure about amazing lol....but we are both passionate railway modellers who like to build layouts. Cheers. Dave
Well done Dave and Richard. Fab video another mash up to come...... Everard Park Station or Dean Park Junction ?
haha. Thanks. Dave
Thanks for another great video!
Hi Alec, glad you enjoyed it. I really enjoyed this one. A truly Great day was had by all. Dave
How refreshing to see to young fellows and not a tattoo in sight!
watching from America!
Hi Kevin, thanks for watching. ;-) Dave
Great video guys. Keep up the good work.
Hi, cheers. Glad you enjoyed it. It was a very fun day. The three of us could have chatted for hours. Dave
@@DeanPark Loved it, it was kind of like we were all there with you.
RE: "What do you need to develop and improve upon?"
I hope I'm not repeating anyone else, but when it comes to moving on to a new scenic section before a current one is finished, I'm not sure it matters. In fact, perhaps because it's an artistic endeavour it might be healthy to walk away, because sometimes a new detail idea will just spring to mind which can be noted, and then applied to that given area when time becomes available.
As for wiring colour codes, hopefully NMRA standards may have guidelines for that, and it's worth it because it doesn't matter what colour wires are what, or joined to whatever when it's all hidden away - until you need to trace a fault and fix it and your brain just wants to explode trying to figure out what's what!
Also, you can learn more about model railway electronics by joining MERG - Model Railway Electronic Group - who produce a comprehensive range of module kits starting from beginner, and increasing in technical complexity as your confidence grows along with your layout's requirements. They also have area groups which meet at regular intervals and give useful talks and presentations.
Thanks for getting together and making such an engaging video, it's so refreshing to have such committed young minds and faces taking an interest in the hobby, and utilising new technology to reproduce the past with such aplomb. My first train set was a Triang-Hornby Flying Scotsman set in 1970 for Christmas when I was just 5!
I've been so exited for this video!
hi, I really hope you enjoy. Cheers. Dave
Only 4:30 in and its brilliant already 😊
Hi, really glad you're enjoy it. Any feedback is welcomed. Cheers. Dave
hi dave, i like the video, keep up the good work, thank you, what is the name of the music right at the end please
Great interview I was quite taken back as like many I thought Richard was a lot older that he actually is. The 80's was a great period to be a train spotter. When I seriously started spotting back in 82 everything was blue with the odd red buffer beam on some of the namers. Then came large logo and intercity then this huge explosion of colour as the decade moved on towards the 90's. Once the units started to take over and then privatisation I lost interest hence my current layout Wemblesden is set mid 80's.
Wemblesden Park hi thanks I wish I was old enough to be spotting in the 80’s! :-) cheers. Dave
I remember when this new mag came out called Rail Enthusiast (now Rail) one of my school friends used to get it. It documented the run down of the deltics as well as everything else that was going on the network. The following summer we decided to cycle across the the nearby ECML every night after school where we watched the last days of the 25's, 40's 45's & 46's. The HST's were not that old back then and only started to get interesting when they started having names fitted. In 83 we stayed in a caravan for a week right next to the WCML where I fell in love with the AC locos. After leaving school in 84 a group of us bought north east rail rover tickets and clocked up over 1000 miles in a week before we all went our separate ways. Best spotting place I went was Carlisle as they still did loco changes there. You used to get scottish 47's come down where an AC would take over for the journey south. Also used to get the odd 26 if you were lucky. ;)