As far the "Parts 4 & 5 are filler" take, I think what people are missing, is that just because the parts don't directly effect the following parts, doesn't mean they don't matter in the overall story. What I mean is the overall theme of fate in JJBA. No matter how you spin it, JoJo is a series about fate, and a story of certain people who oppose fate, and of others that embrace it, and the consequences of their actions because of that. Parts 4 & 5 lay down essential groundwork for how we understand fate in JoJo in the following parts, from the whole "actions fated to occur are guaranteed no matter what" demonstrated primarily by the abilities of Bites the dust and King Crimson, the concept of the "right path", and even the physical gravity linked directly with fate, that is mentioned multiple times in part 6, is directly demonstrated in these parts. These parts are by no means "filler", just because there's no returning character or abilities. These parts supplement the fundamental knowledge of fate required to understand things like gravity and part 6's ending (even tho most people don't care and will just cry "araki forgot!!" when theres something they're slightly confused about)
I feel like if the characters weren’t so one dimensional it could have been better. As is they were too grounded to feel funny but too over the too to be genuinely dramatic
Nah bro, you are just saying truth. That's the way how I introduced my friends to JOJO, I just told them to watch the first 3 ep of part 1 if you like it then continue and everybody continued it 😅
@Ibrahim Amer hes just a mental patient, nothing more. It would have been way more interesting when Rohan or maybe even polpo was the main villain of part 4
TBH part 2 is the most well rounded part. it's not long so it doesn't drag, there's no filler, the characters are amazing and it's a fun story. The worse part of part 2 isn't as bad as the worse part of any other parts (4 times I've said "part" and it made sense... wow)
Part 2 has always been my favorite part, even though I also think part 5 is the best one. Part 2 is just so full of flavor and personality, and CAEEEESAAAAR
I disagree. I think part 2 actually does have a few lows. The fight against the first pillar man (i forgot his name) is kinda lame, and the fight after the wamuu fight before ultimate kars is also kinda bad (and as a side note, the ending to ultimate kars fight is dumb). I like Caesar and Lisa Lisa, but other than being there to help Joseph learn hamon, they don't feel like they contribute much as characters. I think the lows of part 2 aren't as low as the lows of part 3, 6, 4, or 8 but the highs of part 2 don't come nearly close to any part coming after it
Part 1 is boring when you first watch it (at least the plot is) but when i went back and rewatched it i had a new appreciation for it and kinda started to love it. It's in my top 5 parts.
Opposite for me. I thought it was fine enough the first watch through than found it boring on the second one. It has pacing issues, almost as bad as part 3's if you ask me, just condensed down. Beginning is great, end is great, middle is boring.
Also I personally think Jack the ripper being that he is such a huge name in history should have played a bigger cooler part. Secondary antagonist role or righthand man to Dio, Instead of getting set up for a simple training fight.
Gonna be honest here, I actually really liked Part 1. Yeah, I understand that people think it's boring, and I agree that Jonathan is a kinda simple main character compared to characters like Joseph, Jotaro, and Josuke. However, a character doesn't have to be complex to be a fun character. He is as honorable as they come, and honestly pretty adorable at times. Not to mention, the supporting characters like Speedwagon and Zeppeli are great! Also, Dio is just plain fun to watch. Now, I'm not saying that Part 1 is my favorite JoJo part. That honor goes to Part 4,though that might change when I get a chance to read Parts 7, 8, and 9. But I am saying that I don't think Part 1 is as bad as so many people make it out to be. Also the people who say Part 6 is trash either sped through it and didn't pay attention to the story just so they could get to Part 7, watched the first few episodes and then dropped it, or have never actually seen or read it and are just parroting random people online. Just saying, Part 6 isn't that bad either.
Based. Part one is the worst part in my opinion but I still really enjoyed it. I think the fact that it is the worst and most boring Jojo part is a testament to how interesting, unique and cool the series is as a whole. I would give part one an 8/10 with every other Jojo part being above that. Most anime I would give a 6/10.
That's a hot take. Not the hottest, but still toasty. Not sure if I agree personally. I get why you'd think that, but It's also such a big part of what makes JoJo's JoJo's. I'm not sure if you could take that away from it without driving a load of long time fans away from the franchise. I think part 4 pulled it off well enough, with most of it being stand of the week and then later on coalescing into Kira stealing the show. Basically, it entirely depends on how well Araki writes it. I don't think "stand of the week" *has* to equal a lackluster narrative.
I disagree that stand of the week is the problem but rather that it's a battle shonen, I like the revolving door of new and interesting stands and characters but the fact that it's almost always a fight has gotten a bit tired, beetle tendency was by far my favorite part of Part 8
A good hot take, I would disagree only because Araki has shown the stand of the week formula can be used for good story telling. I think the stand of the week formula enhances more than it hinders the storys of part 4 and 7, (also part 8 to a certain extent, though the formula caused some problems later on)
@@zachcoats4849 I don’t think the formula was even a formula outside of part 3 and a bit of part 4 Like in part 7 it was “Stand of tri monthly” which isn’t really a formula and just “hey, I’m writing a story. What happens in a story? EVENTUALLY new characters show up” Same goes for part 8 which was more like “stand of the year”
no its not lmao you are literally skipping some of the best of Jojo's story telling and world building + themes of fate all because "Its not directly relevant to the plot, therefore = not worth watching 🤓"
That GER take was entirely valid. Fuck Gold Experience Requiem. It's overrated garbage that everyone says "Oh it's the strongest stand," and then spout some random bs. I had someone try to convince me that GER had definitive reign over stands because of the infinite death loop. When I said that it's an interpretation, they said that they were objectively right and compared it to a math equation. Also, no one can agree on what the ability is. Someone will say "oh it's the best because it's null stats and God," and someone else will say "oh it only works on Diavolo." It's boring, overrated, and just the worst stand in terms of its effect on the community.
yeah the people that try power scale it are kinda cringe. It was a cool end of series power boost that ties into the themes of golden wind. It was not meant to be a "Look how powerful this is, its the strongest stand, Giorno could have saved part 6"
Not gonna lie part 1 was needed just for the introduction of the joestar family and dio, and maybe the stone mask mystery over all but its only important for part two and part 1 itself.
Man part 1 is really great, it is a nice pace change from most other anime I have seen with Jonathan being just a great guy, it's got British charm and speedwagon. Additionally it was well proportioned in length to the excitement it offered, probably the least exciting part of jojo's but still phenomenally good.
I think people hate part 1 too much. Its still the worst part compared to the rest, but only in comparison. Its still enjoyable and a good start to the rest of the series
The reason why so many people like kakyoin is because we’re all sad lonely little fruits with no friends who wish to be beat the shit out of by tsundere and become friends then travel across the world only to die a tragic death but glad to have had friends at all actually that just might be me-
I like Kakyoin 'cause he is chill and cold but also goofy and funny sometimes, different than an edgy asf main character that shit talks his mom or guy that gets horny while being chased by a maniac with an axe
the only reason i like him is because of how out of pocket he can be. like you don't expect kakyoin of all people to be the one engaging in polnareff's tomfoolery (the handshake scene)
i dont get why people hate on part 1. its so tense and i just love the rivalry that dio and jonathan have. the only thing issue i have with it is that the middle kinda drags
The Phantom Blood manga is good. Jonathan is complex and Speedwagon/Erina are interesting characters. Plus the Victorian setting is great. Unrelated, but with 'BigSmoke', the pacing did feel too fast and didn't explain things well. I know a first chapter isn't a info dump, but it didn't explore this world all that well.
I cant tell if your serious about Jonathan being complex he is the most straightforward "I am a brave good guy kind of guy" no moral dilemma no outrageous actions or past or motives he literally just Good.
@@skittleboi1193 I said some of this to annoy some people, but I kinda believe it. The anime kinda makes him less interesting compared to the manga. Like how he used to be a little brat, he didn't like Danny at first, or his affinity for chocolate. Also generally he kind of comes off as a normal person (in a good way) more in the Manga. Like yes, he isn't as bombastic or funny, but he does have the charm of being somewhat third realistic JoJo (personality).
@@skittleboi1193Jonathan grew up rich and had a simple childhood before Dio. He got to marry the first girl he had a crush on and died really young. The only struggle in his life was dio who was just pure evil with no gray areas or understandable motive. With all that, Jonathan only knew "good" and "evil" in their simplest most dense forms. It's absolutely normal for him to not have moral dilemma. I think what most people often forget is that yes, Jonathan is the great great grandpa and the start of everything but he never got to be a grandpa, father or an old man. All he has ever been and ever will be is a 20 year old in Victorian era with a sheltered upbringing and one purely evil enemy. İt's intended and makes sense that he is pure good. We see more complex characters after him who got to live longer, meet more people and have moral dilemmas.
I feel like people who say Giorno or Diavolo are bad characters have NO media literacy skills. The kind of people who call heels "bad characters" because they don't understand that's the _purpose_ of the character. Does Giorno get overshadowed by Mista or Bruno? Absolutely, but if every character was like Joseph, shit would get annoying REALLY quick. Giorno serves a role to create interesting opportunities that'll support the main cast, plus I think he's got the most interesting JoJo origin IMO. What really throws me off is when people call Diavolo a bad character. Oh ok, so the guy gifted with such supremacy they achieve a god complex, but who STILL acts entirely in secrecy out of paranoia is more interesting than fucking FUGO who's entire character trait is having a high IQ???? Sure man ok. (I'm not counting feedback here, you get my point.) Diavolo is freaking sick ok, that push and pull of anxiousness and over-confidence, his influence on everyone in Passione to the point La Squadra is terrified of him, the methodical planning and mystery surrounding him, how he serves to further the themes of fate in the story, all of THAT not even including Doppio??? Get the fuck out of here. Just because a character doesn't fit scream their every motivation or quirk doesn't make them a boring character.
fugo was carried by his backstory in the anime for me. he's genuinely so much more interesting because he sees himself as an attacker despite being a victim, not to mention the unintentional symbolism of his stand's mouth being sewn shut and constantly cleaning itself (i.e. feeling dirty)
i dont think anybody said giorno and diavolo are bad characters, just that they felt uninteresting this isnt a personal attack on you or anyone but i kinda feel like dejected to read a comment that starts off with "people have no media literacy skills" because frankly i feel like the meaning of this word is diluted at this point
I liked how in eyes of heaven, Diavolo just becomes invisible lol. In roblox yba was amazed how basically he is invisible+he cant be affect by any attack+he returns enemy on the place where the enemy was standing before the time skip, very fabulous representation.
I do think Johnathan is not boring he's unique to the other jojos in that he's a true symbol of justice and heroism he made me actually cry at his death for reference I haven't cried at a single jojo death since jonathan Yes he isn't wise cracking or cigarette smoking or whatever but he is the jojo
Gyro didn't need to die tbh, his death didn't exactly inform Johnny on what to do or give him a reason to fight, Johnny was already set on getting the corpse parts and knew how to take out FV with the infinite rotation.
The other parts aside from 1 that doesn't count are as the guy said stands of the week format, part 2 is a coherent and dynamic adventure plus gigachad pillar bros
Joseph is not the best MC, bro is overrated asf, ye he’s cool and smart but his plot armour is just ridiculous, he beats Kars through only luck, and his character development in his own part is bad. Johnny is a better protagonist
@@DoodleZoo That’s just a bad excuse for lazy writing and isn’t even necessarily true - And a bit of plot armour is fine, as, after all, if Harry Potter died as a baby, we wouldn’t have the story. But when taken to the extreme and made the only way the story can progress without the main character dying horribly? Yeah. Bad writing.
also another rant just cause why not,i feel like people hate on shit cause it became op af like the only reason tusk act 4 did not get hated on like ger cause we were shown it can be countered anyways cool vid papi mwa
Exactly. Jonathan was supposed to be that way. He was pretty sheltered and young. Most his descendants got to live longer, face more dilemmas, meet more people and become more complex. That doesn't mean jonathan isn't a good character. It was what the story needed in the beginning
ofc hes a good father, when he timestopped for the final time he saved his daughter instead of saving the world, how can you be a better father than that?
Giorno isn’t a bad character. He’s just not as exaggerated and flamboyant as the other Joestars, so he doesn’t stand out. I know that’s a cold-ass take, but I’m just tired of people hating on my man Giorno.
yeah idk why people hate on Giorno or part 5 in general I really enjoyed it and its themes of fate are PEAK Jojo. Its anime adaptation is also the best David productions has put out imo. The gang is some of my favorite supporting cast and it had some insane stand fights like Doppio vs Risotto Nero.
I really love Kakyoin, he's my favorite character in Jojo tbh. I can understand why people thinks he's not too interesting, but that only makes me love him more. In the anime, we got to see a scene from his childhood as his life was passing by before the last Emerald Splash and the hospital scene. The Death 13-arc is my favorite-arc of Part 3. I kinda wish we got more of him and Avdol. As for Diavolo, he's the personality that Doppio developed during his childhood and there were signs of it in his backstory.
I listened to the Over Heaven audio book on youtube while playing terraria and it made me love Dio 5x more as well as get hyped for and understand the heaven plan when it appeared in stone ocean. After reading the part 6 manga I binged the anime with my friends and that made me appreciate part 6 even more.
Watch hamon beat but as much as like part 6. The characters had no synergy or chemistry. Like they only interact through fights and ppl like ermes and weather felt hollow until their special scenes
That guy who said you can skip part 4 and 5 is half right half wrong imo you can 100% skip part 5 but you can not skip 4. Even then skipping 5 is kinda dicey because you don't get the dio children stuff. Part 4 though builds Jotaro who is obviously a huge part of 6.
Toru or wonder of U? I liked Wonder of U as a villain, and Tooru's energy was cool, but he simply didn't feel fleshed out enough to be the main villain. Would have made a cool secondary antagonist.
2:16 lmao mista is constantly risking taking heal damage in his fights loves his friends to death and will help them cling on to life even if its for just moments
Ikr, a lot of these are straight up wrong, but its funny to read them and helps keep our minds open and improve our critical thinking rather then staying in an echo chamber.
not as much of a take, but a personal statement: part 1 will always be very very dear to my heart, because it is the first part i watched (duh), it just makes me feel nostalgic and warm
I have a hot take: Toru was definitely a step down in quality from Funny Valentine, but he wasn't excessively bad. It's just that Funny Valentine was so good that he made Toru seem like a weaker villain
When everything is all increasing action and escalating stakes, it can get ridiculous and eventually feel just about meaningless. Sometimes, you just need to decompress and de-escalate with a low action, low stakes story segment where characters are mostly just living their day-to-day lives.
Late to the party . -Hot take : Part 4 should have really leaned more into the horror aspect than slice of life. -Plus Diavolo should have gotten a one-shot simillar to Deadmans questions.
I agree with the second one, although I’d prefer a prequel. I think the reason most people find Diavolo uninteresting is because it’s hard to flush out a character where the whole point is you’re supposed to know nothing about him. Although we did get his backstory at one point, it would’ve been more interesting to see how he built his empire and how past events built his mind set.
@@archinspide2652 True. Diavolo has always been a character that was not very well explored in the original universe which was shame. Spoiler! If you have caught up to part 9 you can see that the main character shares alot of qualities with both Diavolo and Giorno. I feel like similar to part 8 this part will be an inversion or a more heroic retelling of the original universes antagonist. What are your thouhts ?
Part 1 was so fun tbh. Yeah it's the most basic plot with the most cookie cutter characters, but that's why I like it. It's not special, it's just there to be enjoyed
You think Jonathan is boring and Phantom Blood is bad? You're entitled to have your own opinions, but I don't think you've got room to judge other people's tastes.
Coldest take there is: Chewiedog needs to f*cking fix his sound levels already ffs my ears hurt. Also, tf y'all hating on part 1? It's short and very funny, if you don't see the irony of part 1 - you are the ones it's making fun of.
spin is one of the best power systems in fiction. but it really should have been explained better other than the whole golden ratio part how it functions at a base level isnt explained at all really and i just wish it was.
My hot take is that Father Pucci’s idea of heaven and how he explains it is right and I now believe the same religious idea as this goofy anime villain unironically
That's what I'm saying! If you skip part 4 and 5 your literally missing 1/3 of Jojo (Old universe/ anime) and missing out a lot of crucial world building and over-arching themes. This is not even mentioning how you are literally missing some of peak Jojo and if you aren't interested in watching it, why tf are you even watching the series to begin with.
As a Part 2 Enjoyer, i acknowledge that Joseph and how he interacts with the characters around him helps to carry the arc. Part 1, i enjoy it and Jonathan, but can see why others would dislike it. But, it also gave us Speedwagon, so that's enough on its own to justify its existence.
I have two pretty crazy takes. First Jonathan probably would have had the most over powered stand. Second Diego's use of the world is far better than Dio's.
I know its wrong, but for my terraria Jojo mod play through I was playing as Jonathan and got the world as my stand, so I invented the head cannon of "Jonathans World" that in some alternate reality The World was actually Jonathans stand, like how jotaro got star Platinum (Which is the same type of stand as The World). Hermit purple is kinda a lame stand ngl and is the stand of Hamon users and I can't help but feel Jonathans body and Joseph got kinda screwed out of a strong stand by learning Hamon.
@@EpicFortnitecancer Tonpetty would most likely have hermit purple requiem because of HP being the stand form of Hamon plus his foresight, so if Jonathan trained under him and strizo he could possibly get HP requiem and then all he needs to do is stab it again with an arrow.
"steel ball run is mid"-funny valentine pfp
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That just make sense tho.... If you know what I mean
Ofcourse Valentine wouldn't like Sbr because he loses there
Obvious bait
It’s not funny valentine it’s the guy from part 9 eating a hotdog
As far the "Parts 4 & 5 are filler" take, I think what people are missing, is that just because the parts don't directly effect the following parts, doesn't mean they don't matter in the overall story. What I mean is the overall theme of fate in JJBA. No matter how you spin it, JoJo is a series about fate, and a story of certain people who oppose fate, and of others that embrace it, and the consequences of their actions because of that. Parts 4 & 5 lay down essential groundwork for how we understand fate in JoJo in the following parts, from the whole "actions fated to occur are guaranteed no matter what" demonstrated primarily by the abilities of Bites the dust and King Crimson, the concept of the "right path", and even the physical gravity linked directly with fate, that is mentioned multiple times in part 6, is directly demonstrated in these parts. These parts are by no means "filler", just because there's no returning character or abilities. These parts supplement the fundamental knowledge of fate required to understand things like gravity and part 6's ending (even tho most people don't care and will just cry "araki forgot!!" when theres something they're slightly confused about)
Least long winded part 4-5 defender
@@totallynotareptilian3453 he said only the truth tho
this is the most truthful comment i've seen on a jojo video in a while
@@totallynotareptilian3453 No way bro just said that 💀💀💀
How do you know not like it
Possible HOT take. The first 3 episodes of JoJo part one before Harmon was introduced actually had a really interesting story
lmao no
you right, it was def super tense and was so intriguing to see Jonathan against dio
I feel like if the characters weren’t so one dimensional it could have been better.
As is they were too grounded to feel funny but too over the too to be genuinely dramatic
Nah bro, you are just saying truth. That's the way how I introduced my friends to JOJO, I just told them to watch the first 3 ep of part 1 if you like it then continue and everybody continued it 😅
Part 1 start, great. Part 1 end, great. In between? Eeeeeh
If part 4 and 5 are “filler” then part 2 can also pass as “filler”
true but you'd be confused where joseph came from
@@greenstrawberrygaming Joseph is literally reintroduced in part 3 as the grandfather of Jotaro and father of Holly with no mention of part 2 at all
you can skip part 4 and the rest of the series will remain completely the same. It just affects jojolion but ehhhh not really + who cares
JOJO AS A WHOLE IS JUST FILLER FOR JOJOLANDS
@@invis_potion You can be wrong and an idiot and still be able to make a youtube comment. You will just look stupid but ehhhh + who cares.
Kira is one of the most perfect villains created. To say he’s boring is a bitchslap to the world.
He is
@Ibrahim Amer hes just a mental patient, nothing more. It would have been way more interesting when Rohan or maybe even polpo was the main villain of part 4
what does"the world" have to do with it ? (it's a joke)
*bitchslap to yourself
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TBH part 2 is the most well rounded part.
it's not long so it doesn't drag, there's no filler, the characters are amazing and it's a fun story.
The worse part of part 2 isn't as bad as the worse part of any other parts (4 times I've said "part" and it made sense... wow)
Part 2 has always been my favorite part, even though I also think part 5 is the best one. Part 2 is just so full of flavor and personality, and CAEEEESAAAAR
Fr, Pillar man awakening is probably the hardest villain introduction I've ever seen in an anime
Part 2 could've been among the top 3 JoJo parts if Caesar and Lisa Lisa actually contributed and if Kars was a good villain
I disagree. I think part 2 actually does have a few lows. The fight against the first pillar man (i forgot his name) is kinda lame, and the fight after the wamuu fight before ultimate kars is also kinda bad (and as a side note, the ending to ultimate kars fight is dumb). I like Caesar and Lisa Lisa, but other than being there to help Joseph learn hamon, they don't feel like they contribute much as characters. I think the lows of part 2 aren't as low as the lows of part 3, 6, 4, or 8 but the highs of part 2 don't come nearly close to any part coming after it
Part 1 is boring when you first watch it (at least the plot is) but when i went back and rewatched it i had a new appreciation for it and kinda started to love it. It's in my top 5 parts.
Opposite for me. I thought it was fine enough the first watch through than found it boring on the second one. It has pacing issues, almost as bad as part 3's if you ask me, just condensed down. Beginning is great, end is great, middle is boring.
Also I personally think Jack the ripper being that he is such a huge name in history should have played a bigger cooler part. Secondary antagonist role or righthand man to Dio, Instead of getting set up for a simple training fight.
I liked it when i watched it, and when i rewatched some scenes i liked it even more
I loved it when I first watched it actually
OUT OF 8?!
9:44 bro said ,,love you, bye" to a fire marshal💀💀💀💀💀💀
Gonna be honest here, I actually really liked Part 1. Yeah, I understand that people think it's boring, and I agree that Jonathan is a kinda simple main character compared to characters like Joseph, Jotaro, and Josuke. However, a character doesn't have to be complex to be a fun character. He is as honorable as they come, and honestly pretty adorable at times. Not to mention, the supporting characters like Speedwagon and Zeppeli are great! Also, Dio is just plain fun to watch.
Now, I'm not saying that Part 1 is my favorite JoJo part. That honor goes to Part 4,though that might change when I get a chance to read Parts 7, 8, and 9. But I am saying that I don't think Part 1 is as bad as so many people make it out to be.
Also the people who say Part 6 is trash either sped through it and didn't pay attention to the story just so they could get to Part 7, watched the first few episodes and then dropped it, or have never actually seen or read it and are just parroting random people online. Just saying, Part 6 isn't that bad either.
Based. Part one is the worst part in my opinion but I still really enjoyed it. I think the fact that it is the worst and most boring Jojo part is a testament to how interesting, unique and cool the series is as a whole. I would give part one an 8/10 with every other Jojo part being above that. Most anime I would give a 6/10.
I watched the entirety of part 6 and payed close attention.
*I still think part 2 is better*
@@thealchemistking4063 I respect your opinion.
Prolly the best take in this entire thread.
I feel like part 1 would have been bad if it were any longer. As is, it doesnt overstay its welcome.
If someone says Yoshikage kira is a bad villian they are a bigger psychopath then Kira himself
Slander
or they have something called, you know. An opinion.
@@TeeArCreepwdym what is opinion?
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@@TeeArCreep nah phsycopath :trollface:
The stand of the week formula that built JoJo into what it is today is a major factor in holding it back against other more narrative driven anime
That's a hot take. Not the hottest, but still toasty.
Not sure if I agree personally. I get why you'd think that, but It's also such a big part of what makes JoJo's JoJo's. I'm not sure if you could take that away from it without driving a load of long time fans away from the franchise. I think part 4 pulled it off well enough, with most of it being stand of the week and then later on coalescing into Kira stealing the show.
Basically, it entirely depends on how well Araki writes it. I don't think "stand of the week" *has* to equal a lackluster narrative.
I disagree that stand of the week is the problem but rather that it's a battle shonen, I like the revolving door of new and interesting stands and characters but the fact that it's almost always a fight has gotten a bit tired, beetle tendency was by far my favorite part of Part 8
That was a formula for ONLY 1 part and half of another
Those parts being 3 and 4
A good hot take, I would disagree only because Araki has shown the stand of the week formula can be used for good story telling. I think the stand of the week formula enhances more than it hinders the storys of part 4 and 7, (also part 8 to a certain extent, though the formula caused some problems later on)
@@zachcoats4849 I don’t think the formula was even a formula outside of part 3 and a bit of part 4
Like in part 7 it was “Stand of tri monthly” which isn’t really a formula and just “hey, I’m writing a story. What happens in a story? EVENTUALLY new characters show up”
Same goes for part 8 which was more like “stand of the year”
Part 1 is what I would call short but sweet
Agree I dont get the hate tbh
Not an unpopular opinion tbh
and part 3 i would call too long and to forgetful
@@huntercoda4887 True
agreed, it's the worst part but that's just because the rest are so much better and it's still great
The skipping part 4 and 5 take was kinda valid but you’d also be missing on how people get stands and how arrows work
no its not lmao you are literally skipping some of the best of Jojo's story telling and world building + themes of fate all because "Its not directly relevant to the plot, therefore = not worth watching 🤓"
@@EpicFortnitecancerthen they gonna get to part 6 and be like “wdym by fate?! It’s just excuse for araki to write what he wants.” - 🤓
@@EpicFortnitecancer cry about it🤡🤡
That GER take was entirely valid. Fuck Gold Experience Requiem. It's overrated garbage that everyone says "Oh it's the strongest stand," and then spout some random bs. I had someone try to convince me that GER had definitive reign over stands because of the infinite death loop. When I said that it's an interpretation, they said that they were objectively right and compared it to a math equation. Also, no one can agree on what the ability is. Someone will say "oh it's the best because it's null stats and God," and someone else will say "oh it only works on Diavolo." It's boring, overrated, and just the worst stand in terms of its effect on the community.
yeah the people that try power scale it are kinda cringe. It was a cool end of series power boost that ties into the themes of golden wind. It was not meant to be a "Look how powerful this is, its the strongest stand, Giorno could have saved part 6"
Yeah, GER even tainted the fandom because of the 12 y.o. Giorno fanboys spamming "GER IS THE STRONGEST ANIME POWER!!!!!!1!1" everywhere.
So we're gonna act like people didn't do and will do the exact same shit was part 7 gets animated and tusk act 4 will become the next ger?
So the problem is the fandom, Not the stand
@@minhaexistencianaotemsenti7132 precisely
Part 1 is like the first centimeter of upward curving on a rollercoaster
Hot take
Not gonna lie part 1 was needed just for the introduction of the joestar family and dio, and maybe the stone mask mystery over all but its only important for part two and part 1 itself.
Ngl Kakyoin was probably my favorite part 3 character
im laughing so hard right now. by 10:07 the person says that steel ball run is trash ,but has funny valantine as his profile pic.
Man part 1 is really great, it is a nice pace change from most other anime I have seen with Jonathan being just a great guy, it's got British charm and speedwagon. Additionally it was well proportioned in length to the excitement it offered, probably the least exciting part of jojo's but still phenomenally good.
Bro is trashing part 1, thats wrong
Part 1 is great actually, and i'm inside your walls
Same, but I don’t think I live near your place inside his walls
I think people hate part 1 too much. Its still the worst part compared to the rest, but only in comparison. Its still enjoyable and a good start to the rest of the series
The reason why so many people like kakyoin is because we’re all sad lonely little fruits with no friends who wish to be beat the shit out of by tsundere and become friends then travel across the world only to die a tragic death but glad to have had friends at all
actually that just might be me-
Also he is probably one of the most memeable characters in jojo
Most people like him because of his fanon character with a “soft” personality
I like Kakyoin 'cause he is chill and cold but also goofy and funny sometimes, different than an edgy asf main character that shit talks his mom or guy that gets horny while being chased by a maniac with an axe
the only reason i like him is because of how out of pocket he can be. like you don't expect kakyoin of all people to be the one engaging in polnareff's tomfoolery (the handshake scene)
Whenever someone says part 1 is trash... IT JUST HURTS .
they're right tho
@@hhm4480 nahhhhh
It's not that it's bad but it's definately not as good as all the parts that come after
i dont get why people hate on part 1. its so tense and i just love the rivalry that dio and jonathan have. the only thing issue i have with it is that the middle kinda drags
its just that theres not enough episodes for part 1, bro really died after like 10 episodes 😭
The Phantom Blood manga is good. Jonathan is complex and Speedwagon/Erina are interesting characters. Plus the Victorian setting is great.
Unrelated, but with 'BigSmoke', the pacing did feel too fast and didn't explain things well. I know a first chapter isn't a info dump, but it didn't explore this world all that well.
I cant tell if your serious about Jonathan being complex he is the most straightforward "I am a brave good guy kind of guy" no moral dilemma no outrageous actions or past or motives he literally just Good.
@@skittleboi1193 this, but is till kinda enjoyed him and his good big guy character made me grow to him. gappy still the best jojo (yet)
@@skittleboi1193 I said some of this to annoy some people, but I kinda believe it. The anime kinda makes him less interesting compared to the manga. Like how he used to be a little brat, he didn't like Danny at first, or his affinity for chocolate. Also generally he kind of comes off as a normal person (in a good way) more in the Manga. Like yes, he isn't as bombastic or funny, but he does have the charm of being somewhat third realistic JoJo (personality).
@@skittleboi1193 He kinda had more development than Josuke,i don't say Jonathan is better character but Josuke kinda stay same...
@@skittleboi1193Jonathan grew up rich and had a simple childhood before Dio. He got to marry the first girl he had a crush on and died really young. The only struggle in his life was dio who was just pure evil with no gray areas or understandable motive. With all that, Jonathan only knew "good" and "evil" in their simplest most dense forms. It's absolutely normal for him to not have moral dilemma. I think what most people often forget is that yes, Jonathan is the great great grandpa and the start of everything but he never got to be a grandpa, father or an old man. All he has ever been and ever will be is a 20 year old in Victorian era with a sheltered upbringing and one purely evil enemy. İt's intended and makes sense that he is pure good. We see more complex characters after him who got to live longer, meet more people and have moral dilemmas.
i thought liking part 1 and 2 was normal... you cant change my mind theyre goated
I feel like people who say Giorno or Diavolo are bad characters have NO media literacy skills. The kind of people who call heels "bad characters" because they don't understand that's the _purpose_ of the character.
Does Giorno get overshadowed by Mista or Bruno? Absolutely, but if every character was like Joseph, shit would get annoying REALLY quick. Giorno serves a role to create interesting opportunities that'll support the main cast, plus I think he's got the most interesting JoJo origin IMO.
What really throws me off is when people call Diavolo a bad character. Oh ok, so the guy gifted with such supremacy they achieve a god complex, but who STILL acts entirely in secrecy out of paranoia is more interesting than fucking FUGO who's entire character trait is having a high IQ???? Sure man ok. (I'm not counting feedback here, you get my point.) Diavolo is freaking sick ok, that push and pull of anxiousness and over-confidence, his influence on everyone in Passione to the point La Squadra is terrified of him, the methodical planning and mystery surrounding him, how he serves to further the themes of fate in the story, all of THAT not even including Doppio??? Get the fuck out of here.
Just because a character doesn't fit scream their every motivation or quirk doesn't make them a boring character.
Bitch is spitting facts
Yeah the Diavolo slander is crazy
fugo was carried by his backstory in the anime for me. he's genuinely so much more interesting because he sees himself as an attacker despite being a victim, not to mention the unintentional symbolism of his stand's mouth being sewn shut and constantly cleaning itself (i.e. feeling dirty)
@@the-postal-dude real as hell
i dont think anybody said giorno and diavolo are bad characters, just that they felt uninteresting
this isnt a personal attack on you or anyone but i kinda feel like dejected to read a comment that starts off with "people have no media literacy skills" because frankly i feel like the meaning of this word is diluted at this point
i feel like one of the reason i like kakyoin is the theme man
the theme hits hard
King Crimson explained easily: the user can see 10 seconds into the future and skip those 10 seconds while moving to get into a good position
missing a few things like how he cant interact with other people and how he cant get affected by anything in those 10 seconds but that about right
@@skittleboi1193 well he clearly got affected by something
@@sirjoesphjoestar8361 well technically he wasn't affected his time erase and time itself was
@@skittleboi1193 I forgor
I liked how in eyes of heaven, Diavolo just becomes invisible lol. In roblox yba was amazed how basically he is invisible+he cant be affect by any attack+he returns enemy on the place where the enemy was standing before the time skip, very fabulous representation.
I do think Johnathan is not boring he's unique to the other jojos in that he's a true symbol of justice and heroism he made me actually cry at his death for reference I haven't cried at a single jojo death since jonathan
Yes he isn't wise cracking or cigarette smoking or whatever but he is the jojo
didnt know critikal said that on that podcast, i just really like jonathan cause he's basically kenshiro in jojo and i like kenshiro
Part one is like the original star trek show is goofy tries to find it's footing and is just admirable as seeing how what we love have come from
You had me with every comment until 4:50 when you slandered Johnathan for no reason
9:24 the clearest rage bait of all time .😂
PART 1 IS INCREDIBLE
yes all parts of JoJo are peak
I agree, it’s very good, still the worst in my (and most people’s) opinion
Gyro didn't need to die tbh, his death didn't exactly inform Johnny on what to do or give him a reason to fight, Johnny was already set on getting the corpse parts and knew how to take out FV with the infinite rotation.
It actually makes me hate humanity when ppl say part 2 is boring, it's littelry the most action packed part with the best mc
The other parts aside from 1 that doesn't count are as the guy said stands of the week format, part 2 is a coherent and dynamic adventure
plus gigachad pillar bros
truly the natsuki pfp of all time
Joseph is not the best MC, bro is overrated asf, ye he’s cool and smart but his plot armour is just ridiculous, he beats Kars through only luck, and his character development in his own part is bad. Johnny is a better protagonist
@@RedHotChiliPepper31almost every main character in all of fiction has plot armor
@@DoodleZoo That’s just a bad excuse for lazy writing and isn’t even necessarily true - And a bit of plot armour is fine, as, after all, if Harry Potter died as a baby, we wouldn’t have the story. But when taken to the extreme and made the only way the story can progress without the main character dying horribly? Yeah. Bad writing.
If you skip part 4 and 5, you'll see people get stabbed by an arrow shard and have no clue why it gives stands..
But then the whole deal section with valentine could not have happened
Anyone who hate Jonathan or part 1 is my enemy.
Same
We have a small militia 🙏🙏🙏
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part one took me year to finish and it is 8 episodes thats how boring it is
@@aditya_dineshblud forgot to add the subway surfers gameplay at the bottom
also another rant just cause why not,i feel like people hate on shit cause it became op af like the only reason tusk act 4 did not get hated on like ger cause we were shown it can be countered anyways cool vid papi mwa
Part 1 was good to start JoJo tbh.
Not the best, but it's short and it's a pretty ok story. Again, not the best, but it's still a good read/watch.
Exactly. Jonathan was supposed to be that way. He was pretty sheltered and young. Most his descendants got to live longer, face more dilemmas, meet more people and become more complex. That doesn't mean jonathan isn't a good character. It was what the story needed in the beginning
There should be no hot takes, everything in JoJo is amazing and everything about it.
hot take:Jotaro is a good father it's just that stands attract other stand users to he had to protecc jolyne
thats just the plot my guy
That's not a hot take, that's just what the story is
@@coomcharger6105 well he mentioned it in the vid so it is what it is
ofc hes a good father, when he timestopped for the final time he saved his daughter instead of saving the world, how can you be a better father than that?
I want a part two of this so bad, give it one part per part of Jojo give it 9 parts
part 1 is the worst jojo part but that doesn't make it bad by any means, it's still great, it just cant compare to the other parts
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Just watched the video rn, there I am at 0:46!!!! Also good video as always, these were indeed spicy takes but you always make them fun and hilarious
I think part 1 is necessary, if you look at it as part 2's prolog, it makes both better imo
Part one is (like 100%) the worst part , BUT, that doesn’t mean it’s bad.
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Hot take:
all the JoJo parts were great
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@@medicgaming1200 lukewarm
honestly, I love jojo so much I love every part
Giorno isn’t a bad character. He’s just not as exaggerated and flamboyant as the other Joestars, so he doesn’t stand out.
I know that’s a cold-ass take, but I’m just tired of people hating on my man Giorno.
yeah idk why people hate on Giorno or part 5 in general I really enjoyed it and its themes of fate are PEAK Jojo. Its anime adaptation is also the best David productions has put out imo. The gang is some of my favorite supporting cast and it had some insane stand fights like Doppio vs Risotto Nero.
I really love Kakyoin, he's my favorite character in Jojo tbh.
I can understand why people thinks he's not too interesting, but that only makes me love him more.
In the anime, we got to see a scene from his childhood as his life was passing by before the last Emerald Splash and the hospital scene. The Death 13-arc is my favorite-arc of Part 3.
I kinda wish we got more of him and Avdol.
As for Diavolo, he's the personality that Doppio developed during his childhood and there were signs of it in his backstory.
King crimson becomes super simple when u start to think of it as "Jumpcut, the stand"
Hot take: part six is the best you just hate what you don't understand
Facts, I only put it behind part 7.
starting was mid the ending was cool
Tooru is better than Kira Yoshikage
Part 6 us actually pretty good, people just simply don't understand what the heaven plan was and how fate is a real thing in jojo
I listened to the Over Heaven audio book on youtube while playing terraria and it made me love Dio 5x more as well as get hyped for and understand the heaven plan when it appeared in stone ocean. After reading the part 6 manga I binged the anime with my friends and that made me appreciate part 6 even more.
Watch hamon beat but as much as like part 6. The characters had no synergy or chemistry. Like they only interact through fights and ppl like ermes and weather felt hollow until their special scenes
Part 1 is the shit ma boy Johnathan finna serve you a plate of commupance
My favorite thing in Steel Ball Run is when Steel Balls are running
That guy who said you can skip part 4 and 5 is half right half wrong imo you can 100% skip part 5 but you can not skip 4. Even then skipping 5 is kinda dicey because you don't get the dio children stuff. Part 4 though builds Jotaro who is obviously a huge part of 6.
yeah don't skip part 5, it sets up a lot of groundwork for fate/gravity
@@dolthhaven8564 Exactly, same with part 4, just more subtly
Hot take: i think tooru was a wonderful villain and is my favorite jojo villain of all time
That’s a bold take to have on this channel lol I pray for your safety
cold and trash
explain
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Toru or wonder of U? I liked Wonder of U as a villain, and Tooru's energy was cool, but he simply didn't feel fleshed out enough to be the main villain. Would have made a cool secondary antagonist.
I cried for Jonathan
Same
2:16 lmao mista is constantly risking taking heal damage in his fights loves his friends to death and will help them cling on to life even if its for just moments
I love true unpopular opinions. Even if they are bad, it's interesting to hear uncommon opinions.
Ikr, a lot of these are straight up wrong, but its funny to read them and helps keep our minds open and improve our critical thinking rather then staying in an echo chamber.
not as much of a take, but a personal statement: part 1 will always be very very dear to my heart, because it is the first part i watched (duh), it just makes me feel nostalgic and warm
seeing my own take called a trash take kinda hurt ngl
what was your take lmao 🤣
Part 1 was LEGIT, gimme a break... "IT WAS I DIO!!!!"
and part 2?????!!!!! Joseph is TOP TIER jojo my man
Idk if this is a hot take but part 5 and 6 have the best minor villain fights.
Ngl, part 2 is my favorite, part 7 is my second One on the list lol
I just rewatched part1 and I love it.
I have a hot take: Toru was definitely a step down in quality from Funny Valentine, but he wasn't excessively bad. It's just that Funny Valentine was so good that he made Toru seem like a weaker villain
tooru is actually an interesting villain, araki just did it a little terribly
Read the part again, with the knowledge you have now.
Hot take: Part 4 had the most fun, unique and interesting lot of supporting characters out of all the jojo parts
Avdol should have survived given he pretty much got killed twice.
I still stand by the part 4 take...
because slice of life is my favourite genre 😀
When everything is all increasing action and escalating stakes, it can get ridiculous and eventually feel just about meaningless. Sometimes, you just need to decompress and de-escalate with a low action, low stakes story segment where characters are mostly just living their day-to-day lives.
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Especially with his own takes of Jonathan being a bad JoJo and part 1 being a bad part.
this video so hot that it created a new sun in our solar system
Out of all the hot takes, there was nothing about the theme songs for mcs
6:32 i already watched part 4 and i have no idea what you meant by saying that dio was looking for something in their father
Late to the party .
-Hot take : Part 4 should have really leaned more into the horror aspect than slice of life.
-Plus Diavolo should have gotten a one-shot simillar to Deadmans questions.
I agree with the second one, although I’d prefer a prequel. I think the reason most people find Diavolo uninteresting is because it’s hard to flush out a character where the whole point is you’re supposed to know nothing about him. Although we did get his backstory at one point, it would’ve been more interesting to see how he built his empire and how past events built his mind set.
@@archinspide2652 True.
Diavolo has always been a character that was not very well explored in the original universe which was shame.
Spoiler!
If you have caught up to part 9 you can see that the main character shares alot of qualities with both Diavolo and Giorno. I feel like similar to part 8 this part will be an inversion or a more heroic retelling of the original universes antagonist.
What are your thouhts ?
What do you mean with The nijimura dad has a regeneration stand? The regeneration comes from the fusion of his and DIO's cells
Out of all parts of the Jojo anime, I find part 4 to be the most rewatchable even tho it’s not my favorite part.
Part 1 was so fun tbh. Yeah it's the most basic plot with the most cookie cutter characters, but that's why I like it. It's not special, it's just there to be enjoyed
3:38 should've banned him for 1 week..
6:07 part 4 and 5 might not introduce so much things, but the charachters and story are sooooo good
You think Jonathan is boring and Phantom Blood is bad? You're entitled to have your own opinions, but I don't think you've got room to judge other people's tastes.
i think it's perfectly reasonable to judge other people's taste if they are objectively wrong
@@dolthhaven8564 That's exactly why I'm judging Chewie's part 1 takes.
@@jruler93 ring ring
@@dolthhaven8564 clown🤡
I'm sorry but at 3:34, you should've said, "so calamity maybe does exist and it starts here." Sry just had to say that
I enjoyed part 1 more after a rewatch
Is it a hot take to think that on some level, Speedwagon wanted to put his Polneraff inside Jonathan’s Wammu?
very nice video, 8:16 is my favourite part of this video for no reason
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Coldest take there is: Chewiedog needs to f*cking fix his sound levels already ffs my ears hurt.
Also, tf y'all hating on part 1? It's short and very funny, if you don't see the irony of part 1 - you are the ones it's making fun of.
spin is one of the best power systems in fiction. but it really should have been explained better other than the whole golden ratio part how it functions at a base level isnt explained at all really and i just wish it was.
It's really not one of the best power systems in fiction
i have a hot take :people should enjoy what they like and ppl shouldnt judge
all of these takes are atrocious jojo is perfect from beginning to end and araki's a god idc
Facts
My hot take had my old pfp so it looks like Gator Brando isn't real lol
6:42 STAND ARROW
My hot take is that Father Pucci’s idea of heaven and how he explains it is right and I now believe the same religious idea as this goofy anime villain unironically
YOOO ME TOO
@@EpicFortnitecancersays epicfornite cancer with the joker society pfp
Chewie hates Phantom Blood as much as the amount of breads he has eaten in his life.
if you skip part 4-5 you miss the whole arrow plotline nd so much worldbuilding like curses nd physical stands
That's what I'm saying! If you skip part 4 and 5 your literally missing 1/3 of Jojo (Old universe/ anime) and missing out a lot of crucial world building and over-arching themes. This is not even mentioning how you are literally missing some of peak Jojo and if you aren't interested in watching it, why tf are you even watching the series to begin with.
As a Part 2 Enjoyer, i acknowledge that Joseph and how he interacts with the characters around him helps to carry the arc.
Part 1, i enjoy it and Jonathan, but can see why others would dislike it. But, it also gave us Speedwagon, so that's enough on its own to justify its existence.
hot take: gyro and diego are the hottest characters in jojo, and I am not even gay.
Least Homo-sexual Jojo fan.
I agree tho
Hot Take:
Two identical rocks are hilarious
I have two pretty crazy takes. First Jonathan probably would have had the most over powered stand. Second Diego's use of the world is far better than Dio's.
That makes no sense
@@Dr.HooWho which one or both?
I know its wrong, but for my terraria Jojo mod play through I was playing as Jonathan and got the world as my stand, so I invented the head cannon of "Jonathans World" that in some alternate reality The World was actually Jonathans stand, like how jotaro got star Platinum (Which is the same type of stand as The World). Hermit purple is kinda a lame stand ngl and is the stand of Hamon users and I can't help but feel Jonathans body and Joseph got kinda screwed out of a strong stand by learning Hamon.
@@EpicFortnitecancer Tonpetty would most likely have hermit purple requiem because of HP being the stand form of Hamon plus his foresight, so if Jonathan trained under him and strizo he could possibly get HP requiem and then all he needs to do is stab it again with an arrow.