That is modern English pronunciation. No problem with saying it was it is intended in Old English...just because modern English people speak like spazes...
There is a town in Kansas, USA called Greenwich. My parents lived there, The locals pronounce it Green-witch, but my Hampshire-born Mum and I knew better! Gren-itch it is!
Fun part about the Broom Bush for which Bromley was named... The Old English word "bróm" which itself is from a common West-Germanic word "Brama", which even dates back to Proto-Indo-European "bh(e)rem" which meant "to project; a point". And the reason this word which meant "a point" was used is because it was used for "bramble", as in a "thorny shrub". One of the particular brambles, the "Broom Bush" was used a lot in making brooms for sweeping houses, somewhere around the 15th century. So really the broom witches ride is named after the broom bush, not the other way around... And the broom bush itself gets it's name from prehistoric Proto-Indo-European for "Pointy" because it was a kind of bramble, which is also derived from the same.
Taiana If you're worried about getting lost don't be. There are Tube maps everywhere, it's really easy to get around, and in the inner London areas there are street maps on like almost every street corner. Failing that most Londoners should be able to point you in the right direction
And Waltham Forest where i was born! Explaining Newham was created in 1965 is completely redundant as every borough here was created in 1965. Does this bloke know anything?!
Excellent video, sir. Your mention of Hillingdon put me in mind of a lovely little town in Leistershire called Breedon on the Hill. Bree is a Celtic British Word meaning “Hill”, with “don” being the Anglo-Saxon equivalent as you mentioned. This means the town’s name means “Hill Hill on the Hill”. I absolutely love your content, keep it coming!
So you're saying if a white person was born in Tokyo they would be Japanese or Asian? Of course not, but since it's the other way around (a non-white being born in a white native country) it's suddenly different? nup
lomax343 I find his pronunciation a little strange,maybe it's some new mish-mash type accent that has evolved in a large urban area like London that has had lots of different people mixing over the years.
The name comes from the Greek so yes it is with a hard C or K. Celtic as in the football team is a much later pronunciation and is most likely an anglicism (similar to the word whisky from uisge beatha, water of life).
+Mehr Licht That isn't true, C actually has several sounds including S, K, and G (the letter G actually comes from the C getting a right angle ¬ inside of it) in Latin (even before Classical). This is the reason that in Spanish (and other Romance languages) the C before E and I has the so called soft sound, while elsewhere it has its hard sound. French/Portuguese/Spanish: _César_ ; Italian: _Cesare_ ; Romanian: _Cezar_ > Latin: _Caesar_ French: _chanter_ ; Italian: _cantare_ ; Portuguese/Spanish: _cantar_ ; Romanian: _cânta_ > Latin: _cantare_ "to sing" French: _cercle_ ; Italian: _circolo_ ; Portuguese/Spanish: _círculo_ ; Romanian: _cerc_ > Latin: _circulus_ Also, German isn't a direct descendant of Latin and borrowing can actually distort words beyond recognition, way more than linguistic evolution.
Thumbs up to the suggestion of a future Name Explain video about how the stations on each Tube line got their names! Perhaps a collaboration with Geoff Marshall?
I know that the elephant and castle tune station is named for a Spanish princess in a castle. La infanta en Castilla. Which then got corrupted over time. I love the idea of a tube stop series
This is a place name gold mine for any fantasy writers who struggle with names. Just translate the origins to a setting-appropriate language and derive from there. EDIT: To answer your question at the end, I would be very interested. In part for the first part of my comment, and for pure etymological interest.
There isn't much etymology there though. They were named after other places. Like Scarborough was a place nomadic hunters passed through for 8000 years. Then a couple of stonemasons (Thomson's) set up mills, then there was Thomson Settlement and that was officially named Scarborough village. Most of the place names aren't deeper in meaning than they liked the name. Mississauga name came from the Mississauga First Nations people. "Those at the Great-River-Mouth." Etobicoke was pronounced wah-do-be-kang but land surveyor butchered it and wrote it down as "ato-be-coake" which means "Place where the Alders grow." Toronto was originally from "tkaronto" "place where trees stand in water." but later came to mean "plenty." Mimico is an Ojibwe word for "abundant with pigeons." Most place names aren't that meaningful as the settlers just use place names from home that they liked so often. It's only really the places with First Nation's name that tell you something about the places early days.
There's actually some debate about whether Kingston comes from King's town or from King's Stone, since there is a stone there where several Anglo-Saxon kings were crowned.
Patiently watches video waiting for my London Borough, gets to Waltham Forest and Name Explain then BUTCHERS the name calling it "Walt-Ham Forest" when it pronounced "Wal-Th-ham Forest" wit the "th" having a more "f" like the "th" in the word "the"
'Th' in English should never be pronounced like 'f'. Just because thick lazy fuckers say 33 like fir'y free doesn't mean it is correct. English always has said 'th' as...well fucking 'TH'! Going right back to Old English, our Anglo-Saxon forebears said it as 'TH'. Front 'f-ing' is incorrect. Learn to speak proper, lazy tongued morons.
Like the majority of your videos, there's a massive list of mispronunciations... Maybe when recording the script you double check pronunciations of names...? When you mispronounce the things you're trying to explain, it discredits you.
i’m not gonna go through the rest of the video pointing out mispronounced words. i made the original comment truthfully and as a favour! it’s not my damn job to pronounce-check so I wouldn’t gain anything from making it up.
As A Romford Born Guy I was told Havering was Have a ring A ring given to one of the Kings who owned the forest and name of the village in the north of the county . The name Havering appears in documents from around the 12th century. The origins of this name have been debated by historians since the Middle Ages when it was linked to the legend of Edward the Confessor and a mystical ring returned to him by Saint John the Apostle. The event being commemorated in stained glass (from about 1407) in a chapel at Romford, that was dedicated to the king.[ If you can find a booklet distributed in about 1965 when Havering was formed you will find the story .
This was quite interesting for many reasons, in particular that what I think of as "London" is actually a rather small town surrounded by 32 quite sizeable Boroughs. Having grown up in PA, where Boroughs are the common designation for most communities that aren't cities or villages, it was also intriguing to be reminded of just how many of their names originated in London.
Amazing! I particularly took interest in Waltham Forest where I lived for 20 years. I always wondered if it was linked to Walthamstow (probably) and Waltham Abbey. Btw, I never heard it pronounced Walt-ham before.
Born in Hounslow, grew up in Tower Hamlets, currently living in Tower Hamlets, work in Camden, lived in Croydon, Islington and support an Islington football club Arsenal.
Enfield boy here. My little (big) borough is also one of the newest boroughs and was once just part of middlesex until 1965. We had the world's first ATM, the famous Enfield rifle and of course Chas and Dave
I suppose i can vaguely forgive the mispronouciation of llyn dain. But i can't forgive not mispronouncing Greenwich (considering the other mispronounciations)...
Waltham Forest was a name and a borough invented in the 60s reorganisation compounded from Walthamstow and EPPING Forest, fingers of which ran into these boroughs. It was a sop to the newly incorporated inhabitants who didn't fancy living in Walthamstow but as there were quite pleasant small towns of Waltham Cross and Waltham Abbey not far away Waltham was acceptable. Due to a boundary quirk (the boundary ran along the school front gates) I had my primary education in Walthamstow although almost all of the pupils lived in the adjacent borough of Wanstead and Woodford (later part of Redbridge)
Part of the London Borough of Bromley has a TN (Tonbridge, Kent) postcode. Postcodes however do not have to match administrative areas. There is even a small part of the administrative county of Essex that has a London E4 postcode.
Fornicus Lord Of Bondage And Pain It's a reference to the Channel 4 sitcom The IT Crowd. It's a bit like The Big Bang Theory but British and therefore funnier.
Sure, go ahead with the London Underground, but what are you going to do with the stations that have more than one line? Also, what about other Tfl lines that don't count under the London Underground e.g. DLR, London Overground and TfL Rail/Crossrail?
Perhaps if he started with one line and worked his way through it and then whenever a station comes up that he's already done he can just point to the previous video on the subject.
He says'New-Ham(sic)' is one of London's newest boroughs. Actually all of these boroughs were created in 1965. Hammersmith and Fulham for example were formerly separate boroughs,as were Kensington and Chelsea.Other boroughs like Wandsworth incorporated former independent authorities like Battersea into their fold,while losing the likes of Streatham to an expanded Lambeth.Furthermore places like Brent,Newham,and Croydon etc were not even in London.
When I stayed in London, I noticed my hotel was located in the Borough of Brent. Which made me wonder if the Brent Oilfield in the North Sea and the name of the borough had anything to do with each other. I just looked it up and found out they had nothing to do with each other; Shell named its UK oil fields after water birds with the Brent Oilfield named after the brent goose, which got its name from old Norse, not Celtic like the river Brent after which the borough was named.
As a kid in the 70s I grew up in Brixton/ Clapham (Lambeth). I moved away and then returned to London in the 80s as student living in Tooting (Merton), Arsenal (Islington) and Walthamstow (Waltham Forest). I started work in the 90s and lived in rented places in Golders Green, Finchley and Southgate (Barnet) and then Palmers Green (Enfield). Can anyone (genuinely) beat that: 6 different boroughs?
I suppose nobody cares, but I’ll explain the names of the municipalities of Greater Monterrey, México. Monterrey: stated by the founder Diego de Montemayor as “Ciudad Metropolitana de Nuestra Señora de Monterrey” (Metropolitan City of Our Lady of Monterrey) in honour of Gaspar Zúñiga, count of Monterrei, Spain. Most likely composed of “Monte”, hill or mountain, and “Rey”, king. Montreal is often considered as name share. San Pedro Garza García: San Pedro is for the Valle de San Pedro de los Nogales (Saint Peter of the Pecan Trees Valley), Garza García are the last names of former Nuevo León governor Genaro Garza García. Garza is spanish for egret and García comes from either ibero-aquitan “kartzea”, something related to bears, or goth for “prince of graceful sight”. Santa Catarina: Named after Saint Catherine. The name itself comes from greek “Aikateríné”, which means pure or immaculate. Escobedo: Named after Mariano Escobedo, notorious mexican general, born in Nuevo León. Escobedo derives from Escobar (like Pablo) and most likely means “place of brooms” Guadalupe: Named after the Virgen de Guadalupe, it probably comes Arabic influence. Wad-al-upe supposedly means “hidden river”. San Nicolás de los Garza: Saint Nicholas was the patron saint of a small village owned by a family called Garza, thus, Saint Nicholas of the Garza. Garza is spanish for egret. Apodaca: named after Salvador Apodaca, bishop of Linares. That last name comes from basque “Apodaka” that means “unknown town” Santiago: in honour of James, son of Zebedee. Iaqob, or Jacob. The portuguese name him São Tiago, and old spanish refers to him as San Diego, probably as a deformation of vulgar latin Sanctu Iacobu. Salinas Victoria: Salinas refers to the “Valle de las Salinas” (Valley of Salt Lakes”. Victoria honours Mexico’s first president Guadalupe Victoria, and the word itself means victory. García: after Joaquín García, twice governor of the state. García comes from either ibero-aquitan “kartzea”, something related to bears, or goth for “prince of graceful sight”. Juárez: after Benito Juárez, notable mexican president. It probably derives from Suárez, “son of Suero” or “son of Suaro”, as spanish orthography was rather vague and “S” and “Sh” were sometimes written with “X” (also see “Mexico”, comes from the Mexica people that should be pronounced “Meshika”), the sound of “X” eventually became the “spanish J” which is like a very strong “english H” Cadereyta Jiménez: after New Spain’s 16th viceroy Lope Díaz de Armendariz, marquis of Cadereita. This name probably comes from basque-celtic-hispanic and arabic influence. “Al-quasr” means “castle” or “fortress”, included in spanish language as “alcázar”. When we combine this with early spanish “eyllos” or “eitas” (them) we get “Quasr-eita” or “Quadr-eita”, “the ones from the castle”. Jiménez in honour of mexican independence hero General Mariano Jiménez, meaning “son of Jimeno”. Pesquería: “Fishing”, one of the activities that can be done on Pesquería River, or “Fishing River”.
Ever since I first was in Sutton, I was thinking Zuid-town: Southtown. Wind directions are pretty universal, even in French they are nord, est, sud, ouest. But the part that interest me in Bexley, which was named Bixle once, whilst I was born in Axel, which was named Axele once. If that were to lay in England instead of South-West Netherlands, I suppose it would be named Axeley now. Wow. I do know vikings were around when the town was founded (late 10th century). Axeley would be the apt English name for Axel, Zeeland, the Netherlands. I mean, if Flushings has one... :)
Surely “-wich” as in “Greenwich” comes from a history of salt production. It can be “-wich” or “-wick”. Cheshire is home to many places that end with these suffixes, and is still home to several salt mines, both working and abandoned.
Too late, can't cancel. Though yeah, I read the news. Crime statistics and news don't give the time of the crime, though. I'm guess I'm safe-ish if I don't go out after 8? Not a nightlife person anyway.
It comes from the name Chingestune, which may as well mean king's town. While the name may have come from the crowning of seven kings (which may have involved a certain stone), confusingly 'Kingston' doesn't actually come from 'King's Stone'. A nice coincidence! Kingston is the King's Town with the King Stone! (Source: my home town, and also a good dose of Wikipedia!)
Its 'Cyningstane' in the Domesday book ,from Cyning (King) and 'Stane' (stone). The stone is still there near the Council offices for all to see.PS never trust Wikipedia.
I'm in Havering... and you pronounced it wrong... And you pronounced Newham wrong too... Could forgive you if you were a northerner or Scottish... But you said you are from London... So there's no excuse, sonny jim!!!
That is how you say it, nowadays. But our Old English forebears would have pronounced every letter in their words. New-ham, Old-ham, Birming-ham, Totten-ham...etc. would have all sounded distinct. No fucking problem with people saying it how it is written and how it was intended to be said. Just because us English nowadays have the laziest tongue in the world doesn't mean we all have to fall into it.
There is also a Kingston in Canada, not too far from the capital, Ottawa. Kingston, in Ontario, was intended to be the capital city, but it was later determined that it was too close to the American border, so Ottawa was chosen instead, in part for it's more defensible position.
I am from north of the river so anything south of the river is still new to me and I have been born and bred a Londoner. I heard they still eat their first born south of the river during a full moon. But I do enjoy listening to foreigners getting their tongue around some of the areas in the capital especially Southwark. Come to think of it so do some Londoners.
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Currently watching from Croydon but just come home from work in Southwark!
Plainly Difficult you mean South Park?
Don't try it! Croydon will never be London to me fam, not until you get an SW postcode.
HA!
JayoJay we clearly both made poor life choices lol
didnt know about croydon being where wild flowers grow.
still think croydon as in surrey but now we become so much concreate, apartments and shops.
Newham = New'um, not New Ham.
Hououin Kyouma and Hav’r’ing not have’er’ing
That is modern English pronunciation. No problem with saying it was it is intended in Old English...just because modern English people speak like spazes...
Newham = nyooooom
What you on about, it’s nerm
Newh'um? Nyooom is hilarious!
*Greenwich shows up*
Me: 'Ah, Green-witch'
NE: 'Gren-itch, as well as the name...'
Me: 😐
If you enjoyed that, get ready for Leicester
Prounounced..... Lester
Or Loughborough- pronounced luffbrer!!
Edward Barnard knew this from their football team
UK place-names... 😂😂😂
There is a town in Kansas, USA called Greenwich. My parents lived there, The locals pronounce it Green-witch, but my Hampshire-born Mum and I knew better! Gren-itch it is!
Fun part about the Broom Bush for which Bromley was named... The Old English word "bróm" which itself is from a common West-Germanic word "Brama", which even dates back to Proto-Indo-European "bh(e)rem" which meant "to project; a point".
And the reason this word which meant "a point" was used is because it was used for "bramble", as in a "thorny shrub". One of the particular brambles, the "Broom Bush" was used a lot in making brooms for sweeping houses, somewhere around the 15th century.
So really the broom witches ride is named after the broom bush, not the other way around... And the broom bush itself gets it's name from prehistoric Proto-Indo-European for "Pointy" because it was a kind of bramble, which is also derived from the same.
I'll be in London later this year - my first time and I'm from New Zealand YIKES! This really helped learn about what makes up London. Thanks mate!
Taiana
If you're worried about getting lost don't be. There are Tube maps everywhere, it's really easy to get around, and in the inner London areas there are street maps on like almost every street corner. Failing that most Londoners should be able to point you in the right direction
The pronounciation of Havering made me cry
Tell me about it. Problem is he pronounced it a lot worse that it even sounds
And Waltham Forest where i was born! Explaining Newham was created in 1965 is completely redundant as every borough here was created in 1965. Does this bloke know anything?!
Hey-ver-ring
What about Celtic as Seltic
I live in Hillingdon, that pic you used for it are the gardens of Eastcote house, which no longer exists, bur the gardens still do.
Larry Bundy Jr Damn out of date wikimedia!
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Excellent video, sir. Your mention of Hillingdon put me in mind of a lovely little town in Leistershire called Breedon on the Hill. Bree is a Celtic British Word meaning “Hill”, with “don” being the Anglo-Saxon equivalent as you mentioned. This means the town’s name means “Hill Hill on the Hill”. I absolutely love your content, keep it coming!
Loved this video!! Made me feel very proud to be a Londoner for some reason
Tahia Towhidul I live in Hackney lol
Except the idiot pronounced so many things wrongly!
You may live in London but you are and will never be English. Just like if a white person moves to live in Nairobi they will never be African
Dylan Ferrier But i was born in London you white supremacist
So you're saying if a white person was born in Tokyo they would be Japanese or Asian? Of course not, but since it's the other way around (a non-white being born in a white native country) it's suddenly different? nup
Quick note, I live in haringey and many people usually associate the origin of the name of the borough with herrings.
If, as you say, you were born in London, why do you so woefully mispronounce London names? River Lea, Havering, Newham, Waltham Forest...
lomax343
I find his pronunciation a little strange,maybe it's some new mish-mash type accent that has evolved in a large urban area like London that has had lots of different people mixing over the years.
Dont forget 'CaNdeM'
Yeh i noted that also !
He's a viking immigrant !
The Havering one got me the most LOL
Pronunciation doesn't matter
I would love a video on London station names! Also, what a marathon of name explanation right here! Great work as usual.
Hillhill
And also:
Yes to the tubeseries.
Yes please do tube lines!
but in a collab with geoff marschall please
It'd definitely help in speeding up the research, and thus getting the video out, as he's probably done quite a bit already, if nothing else!!!
I know that this is a nitpick, but isn't the first "C" in "Celtic" pronounced with a "k"-sound?
Dan Al
Is Ceasar supposed to be pronounced with a hard K?
As the Romans Probably used this pronation, Germany used it in Kaiser (Emperor) 😂
These kinds of conversations are one of the reasons why I love the wacky world of linguistics.
The name comes from the Greek so yes it is with a hard C or K. Celtic as in the football team is a much later pronunciation and is most likely an anglicism (similar to the word whisky from uisge beatha, water of life).
+Mehr Licht
That isn't true, C actually has several sounds including S, K, and G (the letter G actually comes from the C getting a right angle ¬ inside of it) in Latin (even before Classical). This is the reason that in Spanish (and other Romance languages) the C before E and I has the so called soft sound, while elsewhere it has its hard sound.
French/Portuguese/Spanish: _César_ ; Italian: _Cesare_ ; Romanian: _Cezar_ > Latin: _Caesar_
French: _chanter_ ; Italian: _cantare_ ; Portuguese/Spanish: _cantar_ ; Romanian: _cânta_ > Latin: _cantare_ "to sing"
French: _cercle_ ; Italian: _circolo_ ; Portuguese/Spanish: _círculo_ ; Romanian: _cerc_ > Latin: _circulus_
Also, German isn't a direct descendant of Latin and borrowing can actually distort words beyond recognition, way more than linguistic evolution.
'in Latin (even before Classical)', nope. You are correct that the C represented the sounds K and G, but the S sound is from a later date.
The pronunciation if Newham isn't what I expected. I've heard it said more Newum than New-Ham
A video of each line would be very interesting in fact! I've been to London once (I'm from Australia) and loved it. So different to what I'm used to.
It's pronounced 'Hayvering' my dude
Thumbs up to the suggestion of a future Name Explain video about how the stations on each Tube line got their names! Perhaps a collaboration with Geoff Marshall?
I love even more London. I wish I could live there. Cheers my friend! You have a beautiful city!
Oh no you don’t wish you could live their ohhhh no you don’t. 😂
I know that the elephant and castle tune station is named for a Spanish princess in a castle. La infanta en Castilla. Which then got corrupted over time. I love the idea of a tube stop series
This was brilliant! It's stuff I've always wondered about. I would absolutely LOVE a series about the tube stations! That would be awesome.
Huh, given the music, I was expecting CGP Grey to make an appearance at one point.
Is it just a coincidence the CGP music from his city of London video is playing over the city of London section in this?
Dubsy 102 isn’t that just the music cgp grey uses all the time
wow. from kingston as well. thought you would put an image of the stone where kings were crowned :P
This is a place name gold mine for any fantasy writers who struggle with names. Just translate the origins to a setting-appropriate language and derive from there.
EDIT: To answer your question at the end, I would be very interested. In part for the first part of my comment, and for pure etymological interest.
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I'd love to see the name explain for the boroughs of Toronto or the cities of the Greater Toronto Area. Come on Canadian video.
There isn't much etymology there though. They were named after other places. Like Scarborough was a place nomadic hunters passed through for 8000 years. Then a couple of stonemasons (Thomson's) set up mills, then there was Thomson Settlement and that was officially named Scarborough village. Most of the place names aren't deeper in meaning than they liked the name. Mississauga name came from the Mississauga First Nations people. "Those at the Great-River-Mouth." Etobicoke was pronounced wah-do-be-kang but land surveyor butchered it and wrote it down as "ato-be-coake" which means "Place where the Alders grow." Toronto was originally from "tkaronto" "place where trees stand in water." but later came to mean "plenty." Mimico is an Ojibwe word for "abundant with pigeons." Most place names aren't that meaningful as the settlers just use place names from home that they liked so often. It's only really the places with First Nation's name that tell you something about the places early days.
There's actually some debate about whether Kingston comes from King's town or from King's Stone, since there is a stone there where several Anglo-Saxon kings were crowned.
thomas rushton Wouldn't it be 'Kingstan' if it were after the stone?
8:27 That sounds more like Walthamstow... and now that I think about it, WALTHAMstow is part of Waltham Forest
I like how he used the same music that CGP Gray used in his London vid...
Patiently watches video waiting for my London Borough, gets to Waltham Forest and Name Explain then BUTCHERS the name calling it "Walt-Ham Forest" when it pronounced "Wal-Th-ham Forest" wit the "th" having a more "f" like the "th" in the word "the"
Considering he's English, how did he mess that up?
Ikr, and he pronounced Havering as "hah-vuh-ring" when I'm pretty sure it's "hay-ver-ing"
Thats what thought as well, i thought it was pronounced as Hay-ver-ing" as well
I waiting for walthamforest to
'Th' in English should never be pronounced like 'f'. Just because thick lazy fuckers say 33 like fir'y free doesn't mean it is correct. English always has said 'th' as...well fucking 'TH'! Going right back to Old English, our Anglo-Saxon forebears said it as 'TH'. Front 'f-ing' is incorrect. Learn to speak proper, lazy tongued morons.
Yes for London Underground, and I'm not even from England! Just a bit of a public transport geek.
*pronounced "keltic"
Sir Jaojao been watching too much Scottish football
Crap, did I say "Seltic" instead of "keltic" at one point? This video was a huge undertaking and I was paranoid a "seltic" would slip out!
Name Explain at 4:22, maybe somewhere else too
also 0:56
Blunt Cunever how did you know I was Scandinavian?
I would imagine London was a beautiful place 5,000 years ago- trees, valleys, clean rivers, meadows, and no West Ham supporters !
I appreciate the way you made that about football. neat :-)
Like the majority of your videos, there's a massive list of mispronunciations... Maybe when recording the script you double check pronunciations of names...? When you mispronounce the things you're trying to explain, it discredits you.
It's Hayvering
I know he mispronounced Celtic, what else did he get wrong?
MaryJane etomological, londinium, celtic, lly din, llyn dain... and that’s just in the first 2 minutes....
i’m not gonna go through the rest of the video pointing out mispronounced words. i made the original comment truthfully and as a favour! it’s not my damn job to pronounce-check so I wouldn’t gain anything from making it up.
M T Piss off. If it’s not your job to pronounce check then what are you doin mate? Huh? Just step off and leave it alright. Not your job so shut it
As A Romford Born Guy I was told Havering was Have a ring A ring given to one of the Kings who owned the forest and name of the village in the north of the county . The name Havering appears in documents from around the 12th century. The origins of this name have been debated by historians since the Middle Ages when it was linked to the legend of Edward the Confessor and a mystical ring returned to him by Saint John the Apostle. The event being commemorated in stained glass (from about 1407) in a chapel at Romford, that was dedicated to the king.[ If you can find a booklet distributed in about 1965 when Havering was formed you will find the story .
I would love to see a video about how some London tube stations got there names
This was quite interesting for many reasons, in particular that what I think of as "London" is actually a rather small town surrounded by 32 quite sizeable Boroughs. Having grown up in PA, where Boroughs are the common designation for most communities that aren't cities or villages, it was also intriguing to be reminded of just how many of their names originated in London.
Next epi better be about london underground 😁
Hello from New York City (The Bronx)! I'd definitely love to see a Tube series
Amazing! I particularly took interest in Waltham Forest where I lived for 20 years. I always wondered if it was linked to Walthamstow (probably) and Waltham Abbey. Btw, I never heard it pronounced Walt-ham before.
Born in Hounslow, grew up in Tower Hamlets, currently living in Tower Hamlets, work in Camden, lived in Croydon, Islington and support an Islington football club Arsenal.
Big up Croydon 😂
Enfield boy here. My little (big) borough is also one of the newest boroughs and was once just part of middlesex until 1965. We had the world's first ATM, the famous Enfield rifle and of course Chas and Dave
I feel like Geoff Marshal/Londonist is involved somehow
If he's not, he should be, especially if the Tube stations names get done.
Joel G yes that's defiantly something that should be done
I bloody well hope not.
Ae combined isnt a diphthong, it’s an old letter pronounced like the a in ash
Yes I would love to see a video about the different lines of the underground
Here in Ontario Canada we have many British names for our towns. We have a Kingston, Essex, Windsor and Harrow and many others.
Are you ever going to do videos on uk county names?
It could be the video with most misspronunciations in the history of TH-cam
I'd love to watch the video about the tube stations!! Great work, thank you!
WalTHAM Forest, HAYvering, newUM, you'd think someone who makes etymology videos for a living would know how to pronounce names.. -_-
He mispronounced crocus too. and the River Lea.
I suppose i can vaguely forgive the mispronouciation of llyn dain.
But i can't forgive not mispronouncing Greenwich (considering the other mispronounciations)...
•_•
Would definitely be interested in tube station etymology. Maybe a team up with Geoff Marshall of All the stations fame?
I'm interested in the tube video. I watched this video near the boundary of tower hamlets and hackney
A big fan of the name explain channel and as a Londoner this is my favourite video!
Hill hill... that is awesome. I love interesting nomenclature!
might be worth re-visiting for the original boroughs into the LCC area, and the UDCs and DCs of the metropolitan Essex, Kent, Middlesex, Surrey etc
Londoners: Which borough of the city are you watching this video from?
Name Explain redbridge
Not a Londoner but from Manchester
Havering
Barnet
Harrow
Waltham Forest was a name and a borough invented in the 60s reorganisation compounded from Walthamstow and EPPING Forest, fingers of which ran into these boroughs. It was a sop to the newly incorporated inhabitants who didn't fancy living in Walthamstow but as there were quite pleasant small towns of Waltham Cross and Waltham Abbey not far away Waltham was acceptable. Due to a boundary quirk (the boundary ran along the school front gates) I had my primary education in Walthamstow although almost all of the pupils lived in the adjacent borough of Wanstead and Woodford (later part of Redbridge)
I would love a video explaining the tube names
Ah another guy born in Kingston hospital! I'm glad to share my birthplace with you.
Could you do the names of the different counties in England/the different states in the U.S.? Big thanks
Part of the London Borough of Bromley has a TN (Tonbridge, Kent) postcode.
Postcodes however do not have to match administrative areas. There is even a small part of the administrative county of Essex that has a London E4 postcode.
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
What was Wenger thinking, sending Walcott on that early?
Fornicus Lord Of Bondage And Pain
It's a reference to the Channel 4 sitcom The IT Crowd. It's a bit like The Big Bang Theory but British and therefore funnier.
The problem with Arsenal is they always try to walk it in
My friend... u deserve a lot more attention... keep up the work!
I've never heard of many of these. He needed to include a map.
Link my ting from “Settlement by the Birch Trees”
7am in the Mornin’
She’s Callin
Sure, go ahead with the London Underground, but what are you going to do with the stations that have more than one line?
Also, what about other Tfl lines that don't count under the London Underground e.g. DLR, London Overground and TfL Rail/Crossrail?
Perhaps if he started with one line and worked his way through it and then whenever a station comes up that he's already done he can just point to the previous video on the subject.
Do my eyes deceive me? Is this Ali from LMA?
Just shows that London has the best public transport system in the World
He says'New-Ham(sic)' is one of London's newest boroughs. Actually all of these boroughs were created in 1965. Hammersmith and Fulham for example were formerly separate boroughs,as were Kensington and Chelsea.Other boroughs like Wandsworth incorporated former independent authorities like Battersea into their fold,while losing the likes of Streatham to an expanded Lambeth.Furthermore places like Brent,Newham,and Croydon etc were not even in London.
As someone born and raised in Havering I can safely say you are pronouncing it wrong
The boundary of the City is that of Londinium, the old Roman city.
Can you do a video on the Oxford, Cambridge and Durham colleges please!
When I stayed in London, I noticed my hotel was located in the Borough of Brent. Which made me wonder if the Brent Oilfield in the North Sea and the name of the borough had anything to do with each other. I just looked it up and found out they had nothing to do with each other; Shell named its UK oil fields after water birds with the Brent Oilfield named after the brent goose, which got its name from old Norse, not Celtic like the river Brent after which the borough was named.
Interesting that so many of these are named after people
As a kid in the 70s I grew up in Brixton/ Clapham (Lambeth). I moved away and then returned to London in the 80s as student living in Tooting (Merton), Arsenal (Islington) and Walthamstow (Waltham Forest). I started work in the 90s and lived in rented places in Golders Green, Finchley and Southgate (Barnet) and then Palmers Green (Enfield). Can anyone (genuinely) beat that: 6 different boroughs?
I suppose nobody cares, but I’ll explain the names of the municipalities of Greater Monterrey, México.
Monterrey: stated by the founder Diego de Montemayor as “Ciudad Metropolitana de Nuestra Señora de Monterrey” (Metropolitan City of Our Lady of Monterrey) in honour of Gaspar Zúñiga, count of Monterrei, Spain. Most likely composed of “Monte”, hill or mountain, and “Rey”, king. Montreal is often considered as name share.
San Pedro Garza García: San Pedro is for the Valle de San Pedro de los Nogales (Saint Peter of the Pecan Trees Valley), Garza García are the last names of former Nuevo León governor Genaro Garza García. Garza is spanish for egret and García comes from either ibero-aquitan “kartzea”, something related to bears, or goth for “prince of graceful sight”.
Santa Catarina: Named after Saint Catherine. The name itself comes from greek “Aikateríné”, which means pure or immaculate.
Escobedo: Named after Mariano Escobedo, notorious mexican general, born in Nuevo León. Escobedo derives from Escobar (like Pablo) and most likely means “place of brooms”
Guadalupe: Named after the Virgen de Guadalupe, it probably comes Arabic influence. Wad-al-upe supposedly means “hidden river”.
San Nicolás de los Garza: Saint Nicholas was the patron saint of a small village owned by a family called Garza, thus, Saint Nicholas of the Garza. Garza is spanish for egret.
Apodaca: named after Salvador Apodaca, bishop of Linares. That last name comes from basque “Apodaka” that means “unknown town”
Santiago: in honour of James, son of Zebedee. Iaqob, or Jacob. The portuguese name him São Tiago, and old spanish refers to him as San Diego, probably as a deformation of vulgar latin Sanctu Iacobu.
Salinas Victoria: Salinas refers to the “Valle de las Salinas” (Valley of Salt Lakes”. Victoria honours Mexico’s first president Guadalupe Victoria, and the word itself means victory.
García: after Joaquín García, twice governor of the state. García comes from either ibero-aquitan “kartzea”, something related to bears, or goth for “prince of graceful sight”.
Juárez: after Benito Juárez, notable mexican president. It probably derives from Suárez, “son of Suero” or “son of Suaro”, as spanish orthography was rather vague and “S” and “Sh” were sometimes written with “X” (also see “Mexico”, comes from the Mexica people that should be pronounced “Meshika”), the sound of “X” eventually became the “spanish J” which is like a very strong “english H”
Cadereyta Jiménez: after New Spain’s 16th viceroy Lope Díaz de Armendariz, marquis of Cadereita. This name probably comes from basque-celtic-hispanic and arabic influence. “Al-quasr” means “castle” or “fortress”, included in spanish language as “alcázar”. When we combine this with early spanish “eyllos” or “eitas” (them)
we get “Quasr-eita” or “Quadr-eita”, “the ones from the castle”. Jiménez in honour of mexican independence hero General Mariano Jiménez, meaning “son of Jimeno”.
Pesquería: “Fishing”, one of the activities that can be done on Pesquería River, or “Fishing River”.
TheHollowBodiesBand I care. That's fascinating!!
Ever since I first was in Sutton, I was thinking Zuid-town: Southtown. Wind directions are pretty universal, even in French they are nord, est, sud, ouest. But the part that interest me in Bexley, which was named Bixle once, whilst I was born in Axel, which was named Axele once. If that were to lay in England instead of South-West Netherlands, I suppose it would be named Axeley now. Wow. I do know vikings were around when the town was founded (late 10th century). Axeley would be the apt English name for Axel, Zeeland, the Netherlands. I mean, if Flushings has one... :)
The London Underground, as an American I say "Let's do it."
enjoy! just avoid Croydon
@@jagdpanther1944 avoid Croydon? Why just Croydon? Their is way more violent areas of London. 😂
Would be super excited to see videos about the different tube lines!!
Anyone else here from Newham?
I would love to see the nam explanation of the London train stations!
So many football teams! You should do one about the Premier League and the Champions. ;)
I really enjoyed watching the video and seeing all the beautiful sites in London.
Keltic
Surely “-wich” as in “Greenwich” comes from a history of salt production. It can be “-wich” or “-wick”. Cheshire is home to many places that end with these suffixes, and is still home to several salt mines, both working and abandoned.
Seeing as I'm going to London in a few weeks, it's nice to now have some useless knowledge - my favourite kind of knowledge - on it.
Please don't come here you'll get stabbed x - From everyone Londoner ever
Too late, can't cancel. Though yeah, I read the news. Crime statistics and news don't give the time of the crime, though. I'm guess I'm safe-ish if I don't go out after 8? Not a nightlife person anyway.
Just go to the north and centre of London they are the only nice parts edit:when I say north I mean Camden and Islington
No voiceless dental fricatives were harmed during the making of this video.
I thought Kingston came from the king stone in the centre that was used to crown medieval kings
No, that's a rather florid fake etymology. King's Town, it's very simple.
It is from King's stone.Seven Saxon kings of England were crowned there.That is why it is a royal borough.
Kings stone I lived there for 8 years
It comes from the name Chingestune, which may as well mean king's town. While the name may have come from the crowning of seven kings (which may have involved a certain stone), confusingly 'Kingston' doesn't actually come from 'King's Stone'. A nice coincidence!
Kingston is the King's Town with the King Stone!
(Source: my home town, and also a good dose of Wikipedia!)
Its 'Cyningstane' in the Domesday book ,from Cyning (King) and 'Stane' (stone). The stone is still there near the Council offices for all to see.PS never trust Wikipedia.
I love linguistics lessons from someone who says “firty free”
U say Camden as if it was spelt candem
Man-dem
Thanks for explaining the "upon Thames" distinction. I learned something new today.
My home country: London. Is London your country? (continuing the endless old joke…)
Daniel Sampaio England is my city
E N G L A N D I S M Y C I T Y
Daniel Sampaio I thought that too, but I rewinded and he said 'the capital city of my country, London'
B Printer I know he said “the capital of my country is London”. I was just making a joke.
Daniel Sampaio Russia is my continent
"London has firty-free."
lol
More London name explain please.
I am officially Name explained. Awesome video dude!
I'm in Havering... and you pronounced it wrong... And you pronounced Newham wrong too... Could forgive you if you were a northerner or Scottish... But you said you are from London... So there's no excuse, sonny jim!!!
Everyone ignores us on the east side 😂
That is how you say it, nowadays. But our Old English forebears would have pronounced every letter in their words. New-ham, Old-ham, Birming-ham, Totten-ham...etc. would have all sounded distinct.
No fucking problem with people saying it how it is written and how it was intended to be said. Just because us English nowadays have the laziest tongue in the world doesn't mean we all have to fall into it.
He didn't say he was from London. He described London as the capital of where he's from
@@leod-sigefast they pronounced it haam. Google it.
@@leod-sigefast "No fucking problem with people saying it how it is written and how it was intended to be said". Really? Are you dim or something?
Yes to the tube series!
Do the boroughs of Berlin next! :D
Haben wir nicht nur vier?
Well there are lots of sections here aren't there? Neukolln, Fhain, Xerg, Pberg, Wedding, Charlottenburg, Schöneberg, Schöneweide LOL
Well I really only thought about the main ones. Neukölln, Wedding, Charlottenburg, Schöneberg, Berlin Mitte.
Oh I forgot Mitte. LOL I never go there. LOL
There is also a Kingston in Canada, not too far from the capital, Ottawa.
Kingston, in Ontario, was intended to be the capital city, but it was later determined that it was too close to the American border, so Ottawa was chosen instead, in part for it's more defensible position.
oi bruv, we gonna talk about all firty free buruhs ov london
I am from north of the river so anything south of the river is still new to me and I have been born and bred a Londoner. I heard they still eat their first born south of the river during a full moon. But I do enjoy listening to foreigners getting their tongue around some of the areas in the capital especially Southwark. Come to think of it so do some Londoners.
Jeffrey Williams north London the gateway to the north and Scotland while my south is gateway to the European continent ;)