RG350 Dual Stick Arcade Game play: Robotron 2084, Karate Champ +How to Set it up! RG-350 with XMAME
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- In this video, we will setup the RG-350 to allow dual-stick game-play for games like Robotron 2084, Karate Champ and others. We'll go through how to set it up, a brief game-play and we'll even take the RG350 with us to Rocket City Arcade and meet Ben. Ben has never heard of the RG-350 but is a big fan of Robotron! This was my first trip to this location and took my son there for a Fortnite tournament.
If you live near or are visiting the Huntsville, AL area - Definitely check out Rocket City Arcade www.rocketcity... ! They have lots of fun retro, VR and modern gaming machines. Good thing I brought the RG-350 along.
Special Thanks to John C. for sharing this tip with me, if it wasn't for him this video likely would not have happened. Thank you John!
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So I finally got around to doing this. Robotron is awesome on the RG350! Thanks again for the tips. Karate Champ also runs well, and so does another old twin stick favorite of mine Krull :)
Happy to hear it was helpful for you!
I used to own the actual Robotron Arcade machine when I was a lad. My Uncle had a bingo hall with this in it, and he said he was getting rid of it soon and getting in a new machine, so I bought it from him for a few hundred pounds back then.....I killed this game. It has 100 levels before it clocks back to level one, but that didn't make it any easier. This game is mental. The levels get busier and more frantic every 10 or so, to a point where you need to build up so many spare lives to make a path out of the swarm. eventually broke the joysticks, and didn't have the resources to get it fixed back then, and when I moved house, had no where to store it.....So I left it in the garage.....So, so regret that decision..its worth a small fortune now, and I miss playing the game.....Ive been looking for a decent home duel stick emulator to play on a large screen at home....If anyone can recommend, then that would be appreciated.
You're asking at the right place! I also own a Defender from 1981, though it's currently down (monitor needs re-capping). I would love to have an original Robotron too, it's one of my top 5 favorite games. Anyways, on to your question... I designed a 3D Printed Arcade console called OpenCADE. Also designed a control panel just for Robotron. It may be connected via USB to a PC or you could install a Raspberry Pi in the unit itself if you want it fully self-contained. Lots of options. One of my viewers was Manny and he sent me some photos and provided input on his build, here are the results: wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade/opencade-up-001/
This seems to be pretty much exactly what you're wanting. You will need access to a 3D Printer or someone who can print it for you. All the models are free to download on my website/Thingiverse wagnerstechtalk.com/opencade
Hope this is helpful to you!
@@WagnersTechTalk Probably a bit accessive to what I'm looking for.......I neither have the time, patience or skill set to build that!!... I've seen those duel 2 player joystick units with 2000 or so games built in....plug and play units.....would one of these have this sort of thing built in to it?....They look pretty solid.....
I thought I was the only dual stick robotron fan around still, ordered an RG350 a few days ago, should be here tomorrow.
haha, I'm sure there are many of us out here that love Robotron :) I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine!
If you need help on anything, search this page wagnerstechtalk.com/rg350tips/ or comment with your question. I'll help where I can.
A big thank you to Wagner for this as I’d never have known how to do this otherwise.
Very welcome, glad it was helpful! If you need more RG350 tips, I have a few here: wagnerstechtalk.com/rg350tips/
I previously requested a video explaining how to do this. Thank you so much. Robotron and Crazy Climber work great with the dual sticks. If you have time in the future, please explain how to configure Daphne running Dragon's Lair as well. Thanks again!
You're very welcome, Sorry I didn't get back to you to let you know this video was available. I haven't been home much today. I'll see what I can do about dragon slayer, No promises though. I have read up on some of it and it's a little bit involved.
The hard part for Dragon's Lair on Daphne is obtaining the video files. You have to have the 20th anniversary dvd or find the files online. Thanks again!
Hey Jon! I was playing some pac-man and mr. do on my rg350 and had some deaths caused by accidental diagonals (8 way stick playing 4 way game issues). However, I came up with a control settings scheme that I think is better than using a joystick or d-pad for directional control. When I mapped my directional control to the a, b, x, y buttons and practiced a bit to develop speed and precision, I started doing pretty good in those games. I think both the joystick and the d-pad have too long of a travel distance to be able to just practice and "get good" with them on 4 way games. I will say one bummer is that in mame4all you can't decide with way the screen rotates for vertical orientation games, and this can affect how comfortable it is to use different buttons/pads/sticks for control, and your ability to comfortably be able to use your left or right thumb for movement. But I was able to use my left thumb (in this case above the screen) controlling directions with the abxy buttons, and left hand for movement is what I'm used to. I'd prefer to have the direction control using my left hand but *below* the screen the screen, though.
Another idea would be to 3d print a shorter joystick and see if that makes joystick control any faster/easier/better. Haven't tried this yet, but I did get a 3d printer so may give it a go soon. I found a link to print rg350 thumbsticks here: www.thingiverse.com/thing:3963163
Perhaps it would be possible to 3d print a 4 way restriction plate for the Rg350 joysticks, the same way you did for the Opencade project? That would probably be the very best solution if it's feasible!
Hi John, great ideas about mapping the buttons for pac-man, ms pac-man, etc. makes total sense. That's awesome that you got a 3D printer, how are you liking it so far and which one did you get? I've been using my Flash Forge Creator Pro going on 4 years now and it's been great. The thingiverse models you mentioned I added to the tips page here: wagnerstechtalk.com/rg350tips/#Helpful_Accessories but honestly, I have not tried any of them yet so I don't know how well they work. It may be possible to design a small restrictor plat that slides in from the left-side. That's a great idea actually. The tricky part would the to not disrupt the L1/L2 buttons because it would need to essentially snap over the left-side and have a cut-out to allow the base of the joystick to slide through. It's probably doable though.
Hi Wagner, i don‘t play much arcade games on my RG350, but this is a nice finding for the emulator. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you my friend, if you've never played Robotron you would probably fall in love with it. The gameplay is awesome on the RG-350.
The right Joystick has so much potential. I just wish there's a way this would work with FBA and can play some of the shooter games that normally run in portrait mode and utilize the right joystick and face buttons and play in portrait mode as intended. This is definitely a step forward.
Awesome. I love robotron.
Me too, my favorite
Great stuff! Robotron is so good🙂
Thank you, Robotron is so awesome and really fun on the RG-350!
In Wagner we trust! If anyone can figure out how I can connect the rg350 to my tv and just use the unit as a controller while I watch the game Im playing on my TV... it's you, haha, keep up the great work bro. Been playing Harrier Attack, Ghosts n Goblins, Kane, Ghostbusters on C64, megadrive classics, Mame games like street fighter, x men, simpsons, Neo Geo baseball stars, PS1 driver and twisted metal world tour, amazing, I'm set man, all thanks to you. Get in thanks so much for helping me understand everything! You da man! PS. I'm thinking of doing artwork for old classic games on my Scenescapeshop (all one word) art shop, which you can find on facebook, ebay and etsy which currently have a range of films and landscape paintings if you or your fans want to check it out, just search for scenescapeshop on those sites... wonder if your fans have any cool ideas for new pictures I can paint...? Cheers!
Awe, thank you my friend! Really appreciate your kind comments. So happy to hear I had a small part in helping out. I don't profess to be an expert on this stuff. This video was inspired by another viewer, John C. who basically gave me the information he used to get it working. The RG-350 tips page is growing due to community support and the participation of others sending me tips/tricks, etc. I checked out your FB page ( facebook.com/scenescapeshop/ ) , dude you are REALLY talented! I'll try to think of an arcade concept but here's a quick one that comes to mind... a close-up of someone inserting a quarter into a game, dither a bit and see a row of Centipede, Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, etc. and maybe show the characters coming out of the machines (monitors) or somehow interacting with each other. Dunno, just a quick brainstorm.
@@WagnersTechTalk love it! Great idea bud!
Robotron and Smash Tv using the second analog stick on xmame ;) Another reason to prefer the RG350 over the pocketgo2/playgo. You just have to copy your ROMs to the internal SD card in this directory: /media/data/local/share/xmame/xmame**/roms (where "**" is 52, 69, or 84 depending on the roms version you have). MAME .37b15 is MAME 52 (37 plus 15 = 52). Then you use the R1 shoulder button in Xmame to select the version of MAME. Press Start to force a refresh of the roms list.
It is not unusual for the ROMs to change for a game between releases of MAME. Oftentimes, better or more complete ROM dumps are made, or errors are found in the way the ROMs were previously defined. Early versions of MAME were not as meticulous about this issue (which is why some sets still may work as is on some later mame releases), but more recent MAME builds may have different rom sets and why they may show roms missing. This version of XMame seems mainly to use .37b5 romset (available on archive dot org) but some games require later versions and zipped roms greater than 3mb may not work due to size. To see the instruction manual press select on the xmame icon, then choose Show manual and press A. Clrmamepro is what I used in the past to use to make romsets compatible, it uses dat files and can modify a later romset for example to the proper files/names it requires on an specific earlier romset. mamedev.emulab.it/clrmamepro/.
As always, great info David! I added an Advanced tips section with bullet points from your comments above. Truly appreciate the help! Here's the link: wagnerstechtalk.com/rg350tips/#Advanced_Tips Also, I did get around to updating the clock setting documentation issues you mentioned to me earlier this week. I have not yet had a chance to look at the other Atari (5200, 800, etc.) emulator yet but thank you so much for that info. and I will get around to trying/responding when I can. I'll be out this week, so may be next week before I can get to it.
Just a FYI Robotron score resets at 9,999,975. It is very difficult to score that exactly. A bomb from a tank scores 25 points. I managed it a couple of times. The waves reset after 255
I'll absolutely never see a score like that here, that's amazing! I love the game, but I plateau after about 10 or so levels. Then it just gets crazy (or I just don't know the trick).
Oh yes need some Robotron and crazy climber
You would love this little console :)
@@WagnersTechTalk what one don't I love lol
LOL, so true! The only ones I've seen you unhappy with (thinking Pong), you mod until you do love it :)
I also played Crazy Climber 2 for the first time today. I never saw this game at any arcade. Pretty cool.
How do I get the 2nd analog to work for ps1 games like ape escape? Thank you
You would need to download an updated OPK file that supports it. I haven't honestly investigated. You may want to ask your question here for a faster response: www.reddit.com/r/RG350/
You negated to mention that you have to press START once in the mame emulation to refresh the list.
My apology, thanks for watching and clarifying!
I like Robotron but I LOVE black widow by Atari. Karate champ is a game I’m interested in even though I don’t think I ever have. Love twin stick vid! Do you have any videos on TATE mode for vertical shmups in mame?
Thank you! I'm sorry, I totally do not understand the question in the last sentence. So, I guess I'll have to say no I don't 😃
It’s just flipping the screen 90 degrees so it’s vertically oriented. Final burn alpha allows it I believe after some research
@@0730bcorm Ah, yes it does. Think you can do the same in MAME4All as well. I've tried it in both, works better in FBA than in MAME.
How to do this in FBA ? Thanks
Anyone figure out how to play 2 players (alternating) like the arcade machine? 2 player button?
This is awesome! Robotron and Smash TV with dual-sticks rules!! Question: Is there a way to save the CUSTOM joystick setting for the game or do you have to do this each time you enter??? I don't know how to get cleanly exited out of an XMAME game, so maybe this is my problem?
I'm not sure about the save for custom stick configurations. But, exiting the emulator you can find here: wagnerstechtalk.com/rg350tips/#XMAME_Buttons Hope this helps!
@@WagnersTechTalk Many thanks, they are related. If you exit cleanly then it saves the stick configs, otherwise it doesn't!!!
@@txgrolsch Excellent, thanks for letting me know! I'll update the page with this info. this weekend.
Quick question please. How do we get Robotron onto the SD card in the first place? It’s not listed in the 2500 games.
Please see my RG350 page here: wagnerstechtalk.com/rg350tips/#Installing_ROMs This link will give you the basics of what to do, lots more info. on that page that may be helpful.
@@WagnersTechTalk many thanks. That’s incredibly difficult and a non starter for me. Is there anyone that can do this for me?
Admittedly it’s easier on the original, full size version, especially when the CPU would slow the movements of the robots when the screen got very busy allowing you time to get out of trouble. I spent all of my spare time playing Robotron during 1982. Lol.
My Mame4all in RG350 does not allow me to enter the games, I am left on the OK screen, and when I press the button on the left, the emulator exits. Can the buttons be reconfigured so that this does not happen? The problem is that the configuration screen can only be accessed on the screen next to the OK screen and I do not have access.
Try uninstalling the emulator and reinstalling, but the problem continues. Any solution?
Try moving the left stick right-left a couple of times, should continue. The only way to get rid of the warning (AFAIK) is to find an updated .OPK which removes it. There is one floating around for mame4all, but not XMAME that I'm aware of.
Robotron does look pretty cool on this device, karate champ too 🤔 I might have to invest in one of these are there alot of twin joystick games on arcade? 👍
It's possible to re-map the buttons on other devices, it's what I did originally. BUT, firing diagonally that way is next to impossible. The RG-350 is really the way to go for dual-stick games.
@@WagnersTechTalk Also I think you added the games to the internal Micro ssd is that necessary for the emulator to run properly or can you keep them on the other with the rest of the games?
@@CalmCal You can use WinSCP to create a symbolic link to the external microSD card. I read about it, messed with it a little bit but decided it wasn't worth it for me. I have a link on my instructions page for the dual-stick setup that points to a thread that may be of interest to you. I only use XMAME with the games installed to the internal microSD for dual-stick games and MAME4All for everything else.
@@WagnersTechTalk Thanks for reply 👍
Can you change the bonus man every 20000 points?
Possibly, in the MAME settings. Don't recall off-hand if it's an option there.
@@WagnersTechTalk ok. Thank you. My highest score was 33,000,000. Started at 0900 in the morning and finished approx 12 hours later when the arcade shut. At 25000 bonus new man I managed 8,000,000.
That's crazy awesome! Yeah, comparatively I suck :) My highest score is around 250k I think.
On my modded Arcade1up, I press F2 to bring up the ROMs settings. There, you can change free man settings.
Can't seem to change the settings on the RG350.
Is there a keyboard on the RG350? While playing Robotron?
@@CarpeDiem2 that’s very interesting. Thank you. That’s a non starter for me unless you can change that option. Robotron requires new man every 20000 to make it playable.
Too bad there was a setup like that for the intellivision. That would make night stalker playable.
Some of these console emulators need an update, some haven't been updated in several years.
Wagner's TechTalk I switched over to a different intellivision emulator on my PocketGo V2 from the one in your rg350 video and haven’t had a problem since.
Cool, which one are you using I'll check it out!
Wagner's TechTalk JZintellivision.
@@WagnersTechTalk github . com/retrogamehandheld/OpenDingux (jzintv by David Knight). Info: boards. dingoonity .org/gcw-releases/jzintellivision-an-updated-intellivision-emulator/ Inactive but source is available for updating. The emulators by zx81 like dingux-int and the ti99 etc may also be updated again since he just bought one. Dingux-int was actually ported over to gcw0 which happen to still work on RG350 by someone else.
That’s not worth because this game was so terrible you can’t have 360 degree shot sight !
Dude, are you talking about Robotron 2084? It is still an awesome game, game-play is great. When I played it in the arcades, I sucked and didn't like it until I was a bit older. I'm a little better today but it was/is an awesome game if you give it a chance. Now, it's one of my top 5 games of all time.