Yeah thanks. The link you put in the description says to Subscribe to unlock link. That is some shady BS man.SocialWolvez seems like some scam site. Either give the direct link or don't link at all imo.
Hi, I would like to ask if you have any idea about how to dual boot Batocera with windows (or triple with another Linux distro). It would be great if it's possible and you can show us how to do it. Great video btw.
As someone who had an HP elite mini pc just sitting on my shelf, I watched this video, and you walked me through installing and configuring Batocera on it. I ended up spending a few hours yesterday prepping this system, and I have to say I'm impressed. Thanks for making this video. You just gave me a fun trip down memory lane.
Just a quick note here. There is a DP++ port on the back of the system. This can allow you to use a passive Display Port to HDMI cable for outputting video to a standard TV or display. Otherwise an active DP to HDMI cable must be used. I hope this helps anyone interested in emulating this build.
@@Daniel-nm9rm Negative. Although usually if a device has only one or two, maybe three DP ports, it is typical that they will each have the proper silicon on the GPU to handle the output. However, typically, if you have three, four, or more outputs, only some of them can be used without active cables/adaptor. This has been the case since DVI, especially with the advent of Dual-Link DVI requirements. NGL, Today I Learned about the DP++ logo. I have seen them before, but I have never really *SEEN* them before. It never clicked that they were different than the normal DP logo.
Excellent video. It's worth noting a few things: 1) The HP EliteDesk models are all *supposed* to have built-in WiFi and Bluetooth. In many cases, the sellers refurbishing these units will provide a WiFi USB dongle if the onboard WiFi / Bluetooth adapter is faulty or defective. What you need to look out for is that the onboard WiFi supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz WiFi. The dongle they provide usually only supports 2.4GHz and does not have Bluetooth capabilities. 2) The USB to SATA adapter you've shown will work with ALL SSDs and HDDs IF - strong emphasis on 'IF' - the SSD or HDD is a 5V drive. In other words, 12V drives will NOT work with the USB to SATA adapter. Nearly all SSDs and HDDs will tell you on the label whether they use 5V or 12V for power. Be advised that a USB 2.0 port on some systems might simply not have enough power to allow the drive to work. If at all possible, try to use a USB 3.x port. 3) The refurbished HP EliteDesk models are a complete and total bargain and a steal on Amazon ... BUT ... Amazon gives the refurbished sellers a LOT of leeway with regards to their listings. For example, I've purchased about 5 or 6 of these units for work, and two units came with defective onboard WiFi units (with a USB 2.4GHz WiFi dongle.) One refurbished unit I received had a bad display port connector and a faulty USB port. So, purchase with caution. Don't set your expectations high. Basically, prepare for the worst and hope for the best. This comment is not intended to scare or deter buyers of these systems ... I've bought several of these units and my overall experiences have been very positive. Just be aware that if your unit comes with a WiFi dongle - you'll probably want to separately purchase a better USB WiFi unit. Lastly, double-check your BIOS settings before doing anything with the unit. This is probably something you should do BEFORE you deploy a Linux-based distribution to the SSD.
You are actually wrong about number two. Firstly in adapter like that doesn't support 12 volt as you said but 12 volt is used for 3.5-in drives so that's the easiest way to tell. The part that you got wrong is that you said it will work for all HDD and that's not true because depending upon what USB port you plug it into it won't support as much power and therefore some HDD won't be able to be used. I have an adapter like that and with a specific HDD I had it would work perfectly fine on my desktop but the moment I plugged it into the keyboard on my Windows 10 tablet (yes that's a real thing) it was definitely not getting enough power to run.
@@bland9876 You need to read my post again, very carefully. Here's what I said regarding your specific comment: _The USB to SATA adapter you've shown will work with ALL SSDs and HDDs IF - strong emphasis on 'IF' - the SSD or HDD is a 5V drive. In other words, 12V drives will NOT work with the USB to SATA adapter. _ Essentially, I never said that ALL hard disk drives (HDD) will work using a USB adapter (without an external power source) because the vast majority of USB devices (and adapters) can only provide 5V of DC power. Basically, you're saying that what I've said is true - some (but not all) HDDs will work on a USB connection, while others will not. Keep in mind that there is VOLTAGE (i.e., 5V) and then there is AMPERAGE (i.e., 20mAH) . So, if your device operates at 5V and requires 1000mAH, but your device can only provide 5V 250mAH, you're not going to have enough CURRENT to power the device. This will heavily depend on the USB adapter providing said 5V power, and what amount of current (amperage) it can provide.
@@nopenottalib4366 Oh I see what's going on It's that thing where I'm like hey you said something wrong and then immediately explain exactly what you said just differently. I hate when that happens regards of whose side I'm on whether I'm the one that posted the original comment and someone else is the one responding to me. Anyways not having enough current is very annoying and the worst example is the Wii U because stationary devices usually give you enough current. A laptop which is trying to save power it may make sense not to give you enough current for the freaking video game console with only 32 gigs of storage mind you wtf? Had to buy a Y adapter and use up 2 USB ports.
@@bland9876 My point is simply that USB adapters like the one shown in the video for SSDs / HDDs will only work with 5V drives. For the 12V drives you need an external PSU of some kind for it. I brought up amperage in my 2nd post because, as you pointed out, some USB devices (like unpowered hubs, such as the one in your keyboard) might not provide enough amperage. You're more likely to see issues with that in the mechanical HDD area, as there's a motor and such involved. I haven't personally seen any 5V 3.5" drives, but I HAVE seen 2.5" 12V drives. That's why I made the point above the 5V will work, 12V won't. There's nothing incorrect about what I said then, or now. I've worked in IT for the last 13 years. I've seen more hard drives and SSDs over the last 13 years than most people will see in their entire lifetime. I'm not bragging ... it's just my job. Have a blessed day.
@@nopenottalib4366 Wait now you got me curious The keyboard that I was talking about was like a Microsoft Surface except really thick and with USB ports on it. I guess that counts as a hub because it's not part of the main system cuz you can remove the keyboard just like a Surface tablet. I didn't know they made $2.5 in drives that needed 12 volt. That's a new one on me. They must be super power hungry and make your laptop die super fast. Working in IT is super fun it's like working on cars but without getting your hands dirty. If you're super unlucky you might get thermal paste on your hand but that's about it.
I'll need to do this some day. Sounds like a great way to keep enjoying classic and retro games without unneeded wear and tear on the games and consoles themselves. Plus you wouldn't have to keep switching consoles if you wanted to play a different game.
I deal with a lot of these refurbs - I strongly recommend replacing that kingfast ssd. They don't seem to last. Great video, so good to show what those can do!
@RCfromtheNYC so do they make one that would fit in this build? I'm not familiar with all of this, but when googling that, it looks like a different shape a product than the kingfast shown here.
@@sircasino614 Silicone Power makes both M.2 NVME and SATA SSDs. I rate them high on both durability and price. I have an M.2 setup as my Windows boot drive (using Tiny 10, an unofficial stripped down version of Windows), and I use my SSD to hold my Barocera build (which includes my ROMs).
Just grabbed a Dell OptiPlex 5000 that was sitting out by the trash at a neighbor's house while walking the dogs. Plugged it in and turns out it's a bad SSD. Got a 256GB NVMe from Amazon and now I have a nice, mini-PC with an i5-12500T, 16GB RAM, and 256GB SSD for less than $30. The specs are probably a bit overkill for this project, but I don't have any other use for it. Thanks for making such a great video. This is a lot easier than trying to configure Emulation Station to work with Retro Arch.
You lucky bugger. 😊👍 But many people have no idea and throw away things may be only a simple fix. A few years ago I had an inlaw throw away a laptop and in the laptop bag. It wasnt particularly powerful but all it needed was a new power cord and battery.
For network access you can use the host name shown on the Network Settings menu, which is BATOCERA by default, instead of using the IP address. There's always the possibility your router can assign a different IP address but the host name won't change.
I like the way to access the minipc from the regular pc for the copy-paste bios files. Such a simple task that I did not know existed. Wow am I behind as far as pc literacy.
Emulation is very CPU heavy, and these mini-PCs have pretty good CPUs, so this works quite well for emulation. The graphics in these systems are very basic, but the only thing that might affect is how much you can scale the picture on the emulated system. Of course, if you wanted to play any x86 or AMD64 native titles, then the graphics on these systems would be quite a limitation.
Pretty good compared to what? This computer has an i5-6500T, you could say thats bad compared to most cups on the market, only good compared to cpus from 10 years ago.
@@PlasmaSnake369 These computers are several years old. The CPUs are decent for the time they came out. What would be the point of comparing something more than 5 years old for $100 or less to a new computer that costs several hundred dollars more? The point of the comment wasn't to compliment the CPUs, but call attention to the limitations of the GPUs.. The point was that the CPUs are good enough to do quite a bit of emulation, but the GPUs are not good enough for anything but very lightweight or old PC games.
@@CFWhitman Yeah looks like it doesn't take that great of a a PC to run CEMU or Yuzu, I'm not sure exactly how they work but I know that the GPU can be the limiting factor in some cases like I have an Odin Lite and it can't emulate 3d switch games because of it's GPU
Hey, any chance you saved extras? I would be extremely grateful if I could get one off you free or cheap! I'm broke but I'd love to have a console to play
i "accquired" a dell optiplex 9020 usff at the last hotel i worked at and put batocera on it a few years ago. then put in a m.2 card for wifi/blutooth and bought 4 8bitdo sn30 pros. its the family pc now
@@alansmithee.01 I can't confirm with batocera, but Windows sure works fine from the M.2. Since it's just a simple matter in the BIOS to switch the boot drive, I don't see why it would matter if it's on an M.2 or the SSD, but I don't know.
I'm going to guess that that m.2 is actually a SATA in disguise. I hate that that is even a thing. Why did they not just make all m.2 NVMe and stick to using mSATA for SATA the world may never know.
I have one of these. It’s crazy how well it runs a lot of systems. Xbox, Gamecube, PS2, and Wii! It’s also smaller than a Wii. I designed a vertical stand for it and put it on my thingiverse.
I just did this with a dell i3 that I got for $39 and it has hdmi. 16gb is way overkill. Windows 11 on an Ssd with Dreamcast and all the Nintendo games. I can play high quality;it’s retro games with my 3 brothers now like we used to 25+ years ago.
I just got a Intel 7th gen Dell Optiplex Micro. I'm gonna try to add a m.2 Oculink connector to it so I can use a External GPU when I feel like using more power. A i7 7700t should work for most use cases but it's still lower Power consumption. If you'd like something like that with an internal GPU try a Dell Precision with a RTX A4000 inside.. its a ways thicker and has weird power supply restrictions but is still compact compared to Desktops.
Just a quick heads up, I've never worked directly with a 705 model, but if it is like most of the EliteDesk models, they may not all come with VGA or the second DisplayPort. These can be configured with different ports, such as serial or HDMI. I believe this is the same as the other models, as you'll note that the center DisplayPort has "wings" where you would see the screw mounts for, say, a serial port. (Although, typically, it is VGA vs Serial Port for the option.) Not specifically important, but worth noting when buying if you want to connect to a CRT via VGA, or have a reason for a second DP connected screen.
thanks for this video I found it very informative and easy to follow. I have seen other videos where they walk you through the steps, but slightly unprofessional and hard to decipher. Good communication skills on your part.
Had to double check that I hadn’t clicked on a Kentucky Ballistics video. Lol I half expected him to say “My name is Scott and you’re watching Kentucky Ballistics!” Lol
Thanks for the heads up about these mini PCs. They seem pretty affordable and small enough for lots of projects. Normally I'd just get a Dell USFF PC for projects, but these seem a little smaller, easier to work on and a little more modern. I'd also never heard of Batocera but looks to be something similar to what I found on a Raspberry Pi I'd bought a while back. I'll have to have a bit more of a look into it since I've been using Linux more and more these days
I've bought a couple refurbished from Woot because they are dirt cheap there and something like this needs minimal computing power. You might also be able to add more ram, depending on the number of slots. In my experience it's always SODIMM (like for a laptop) for these mini machines.
@@kellyngrey4950 Cheers. Yeah, I bought a couple of different brands (Lenovo, Dell and HP) to check out the differences. Each have their pros/cons in terms of how they're upgraded. I do like the memory slots under the Lenovo, but you still have to take the top off to access it anyway. At least you don't have to remove caddys of fans to get at memory and NVMEs
I think Batocera is Debian based but don't quote me on that. It basically boots into EmulationStation with X11 underneath. And that 6th gen Core i5 wipes the floor with any Raspberry Pi, even the 5 can't touch it. You can get these machines with i7's but for the purpose of an emulation machine you'd only see improvements for higher end gaming systems like PS3 and XBox 360. An i3 might hold you back on the mid-range stuff, so an i5 is probably a good sweet spot. They're regular desktop chips. For this purpose (emulation) you don't even need that much RAM, maybe 4GB will do it. Dual channel is a plus for the integrated video, though. I thought that these mini PCs could take an NGFF WiFi adapter and that some may come with one, either way it's important to make sure that whatever WiFi solution you go with has Linux support. I went with an EDIMAX AC1200 USB 2.0 adapter (yeah I know, USB 2.0 is limited to 480MBps, someone tell their engineer) because it specifically said it was Linux compatible. It's a RealTek chipset. Pretty much any RealTek or intel WiFi should be golden, though. Maybe more than that, but those are the two brands I KNOW work.
@@SeeJayPlayGames Since this post, I bought a few different ones off ebay (HP, Lenovo and Dell). Hardware wise they all have their quirks to work on, but generally pretty easy. Although I did have a few issues with cooling in the HP mini G3 when I was just updating Windows on it (it kept switching off). I'll redo the heatsink paste and check the cooling fins when I get a chance.
As always a great video. Was there any games tested that gave you some trouble or had lag? I have heard that Xbox and PS2 and some Wii U can push these little systems past their limits. What are your thoughts Russ?
I would assume that depends on the computer's capabilities. These mini pcs usually have low end cpus and no dedicated graphics card, so it would be normal to have lagging with more demanding games/consolles. If you install this on an old gamer pc that has a good cpu and a dedicated graphics card you would probably have a smooth performance no matter the game.
Look at you using "Ctrl-A"... you show-off!! heh heh great vid man! loved it! Can't wait to make one of these suckers.. I never used Botacera before but dang looks soooo muuch easier than my old way!
No need to buy an external box just to flash the SSD. Just burn it to a thumb drive, run, and go to System Settings. Under "Storage", select Install on a New Disk. Choose Target Device (your SSD or HDD), the Architecture (X86_64), and click ON for Are you Sure? Then install. It will write the image to the computer's internal drive.
Using Batocera is great for older processors and because a lot of the emulator tweaks are built in. Another great choice is LaunchBox for newer ‘i’ processors, since a lot of the tweaks for things like Retroarch tuning/tweaking are also include in the current version of LaunchBox. This is a great time for retro gamers.
@@bluecko72 keep in mind launchbox is made to work with retro games up to current pc games. If you limit your games to retro games the 7th gen i5 is great for both emulators. I’ve used batocera with old old Intel processors and running games like nes and game boy and such work great, but it won’t run GameCube and Xbox 1 games. Same for launchbox. Launchbox is very popular with people who are unfamiliar or don’t want to use Linux, which batocera is. Choose your games based on game developer recommendations is your best bet.
What timing! I just got a handful of these in SFF! I was just trying to decide if I wanted to install windows and use LaunchBox, or setup Batocera! Great guide, I think I will use Batocera!
Almost get the same mini PC! But in a secon hand store I bougth for $50 a Intel q6600 + 8gb ram+radeon HD 7950, and i upgrade the harddisk with a basic 240gb kingstone ssd and batocera, and ROCK
That's weird as it shouldn't work. The external SSD USB adapter cable should only provide 5V and most spinning drives require 12V for the motor. Anyways, I'm glad it worked for you!
@@OfficialChaseBrogan It's either going to be a 800 G2 or G3 mini, Optiplex 3050 or 7050 micro. They all can be found with the same i5-6500T processor.
Fascinating. I mean that in 2 ways. One that the content of the video was fascinating. And 2 that you made what should have been a 15 minute video over 1/2 of an hour.
first of alll, good job on showing how to do this, but for me, that outside of the US, the machine cost heck alot more, about 250$ mark, then we have cables also needed to hook up the tv and harddrive also, iam better off using a pie instead. if i imported it instead, then i need to ad a converter to the price also.
An awesome tutorial. Can you please make a tutorial on how to connect to this PC running batocera an 8bitdo arcade stick (switch PC version)? And even better, how to connect 2 of them for 2 players games?
Oh man, this video is exciting me. I really want to make a emulator console like this, but I also want to add my own games to it as well. I build Unity games, cartoony 3D games for my son. His latest is he gets to play as a dino. Is it possible to make a custom "System" on there maybe with a Unity Logo that has his games in it?
It would be interesting to see a stress test to see what this system using Batocera is capable of in comparison to a dedicated gaming rig. Mostly, at what point does it sort of go "yeah, that's the limit for this machine. No mas."
Thanks for the video. As someone who is completely new to this, what are you doing for the controllers? Is there one controller that can deal with all the systems or are you swapping out? Can you make or reccomend a good instructional video, please?
Any usb controller for pc will work great whether it's a wired controller or wireless via usb dongle. You can get specialty controllers like n64 for n64 or just simply use a PlayStation style for everything. Anything is possible as long as it's pc compatible.
The only thing Im thinkin is why did we have to take the wheels off to plug it in to the computer?? Lol. But this is really cool. Think Im gonna try it
SSDs use less power than a hard drive so if you have a USB only SATA adapter then you will only be able to use some 2.5in hard drives and most if not all SSDs You will not be able to use 3.5in HDD because they need 12v and USB is 5v.
One thing about Batocera I've found is sometimes it's picky about what usb wifi dongles work. The one that works on my main windows pc doesn't work on Batocera so I had to shared wifi to the device for scraping.
I bought a switch and now I saw this 😂 I assume not all games' roms are still available compared to before where roms and isos were still more readiky available and I played it on my laptop using an emulator
I just purchased one of these and it was delivered without a SSD so I returned it and received another which also didn't have an SSD. I reached out to the vendor and they told me that they have an NVME drive ont removable SSD
Love your content, made my own arcade cabinet but the computer side is hard work for me...your tutorials saving the day. Side note...why did you colour in your John Butler tattoo on your left wrist?
You’d be better off with a newer N100 than the 6500T in this unit. Geekbench 5 Performance: In Geekbench 5, the N100 outperforms the i5-6500T in the single-core test with a score of 989 versus 785. For multi-core, the N100 scores 2840, while the i5-6500T scores 2449. Thermal Design Power (TDP): The N100 has a significantly lower TDP of 6W compared to the i5-6500T’s 35W, indicating better power efficiency for the N100. Memory Support: The N100 supports up to 16 GB of memory in a single-channel configuration with a maximum bandwidth of 76.8 GB/s, while the i5-6500T supports up to 64 GB in a dual-channel configuration with a bandwidth of 34.1 GB/s. Manufacturing Technology: The N100 is built using a 10nm process, whereas the i5-6500T uses a 14nm process. Release Dates: The N100 is a newer processor, released in Q1 2023, while the i5-6500T was released in Q3 2015.
Older CPU’s don’t have the proper thunderbolt plug bor the direct connection to PCH so your wasting money and time trying it. In 10 years though, that’s a different story…
Major kudos on the step by step instructions. It helps this old guy make this work. One quick question after playing a game and the game is over. How do we get back to the main menu to play another game? Thanks
Hot key and start at same time. If you havent changed what button the hotkey is then the default is select (for hotkey) and start. The Batocera wiki covers this and other button shortcuts as well as other useful and important info. So have a look there too.
I bought a 85$ Mini PC with a 2.6 ghz 2 core CPU 2GB Ram,1500GB HDD,6 USB (HDD not SSD :( ) and it plays up to PS3/Wii/360 +66 other emulator (Batocera) Connected to my 4K 55inch TV at about 10 feet with a 20$ fake PS5 ebay controller and a 3$ dollar store mouse. Little over 110$ Canadian for 110 000+ games and even Red Dead 1 plays well.
Parden my ignorance here, but do you get the games from adding the Batocera BIOS information or only when you upload the ROMs? If you only get the games after adding the ROMs, where do you find the ROMs?
I have a older Lenovo t420 laptop I have a express port to pci port for a gpu I upgraded ram to 16gb it has a i5 and emulation is pretty good I have not pushed it I may install this on there and give it a try I have a i7 that works in my laptop and the gpu I am using is a Gtx 1080 so I believe it should work pretty good
Batocera is a nice system but if you want to squeeze the most performance out of your machine in the later gen emulators you will find running windows will give better performance. Launchbox is a nice frontend in windows.
I have no experience with Linux, but I was under the impression that it is rudimentary and uses way less resources than Windows. How does Windows have better performance on a handicapped computer, considering how much of the cheap computers resources are being used up by Windows? I am genuinely asking. I have a cheap mini PC that I was contemplating using Batocera with, because the PC is weak... I have a great Desktop that I built last year that can run any console game through Windows & Launchbox without breaking a sweat. I just want a small portable retro system to take wherever I want.
Below is the direct link to this Hp Mini PC!
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Yeah thanks. The link you put in the description says to Subscribe to unlock link. That is some shady BS man.SocialWolvez seems like some scam site. Either give the direct link or don't link at all imo.
We're would you get all the games for all the systems.
Is there a link to them?
Or are the games on Bodacera?
Amazing video by the way.
Love your arcades in the background too
Hi, I would like to ask if you have any idea about how to dual boot Batocera with windows (or triple with another Linux distro). It would be great if it's possible and you can show us how to do it.
Great video btw.
display port dosent carry audio
As someone who had an HP elite mini pc just sitting on my shelf, I watched this video, and you walked me through installing and configuring Batocera on it. I ended up spending a few hours yesterday prepping this system, and I have to say I'm impressed. Thanks for making this video. You just gave me a fun trip down memory lane.
That's awesome to hear! Glad it worked out so well for you!
Can you tell me about the switch emulation performance
@@TexasDevin wanna sell it? 😅👍
Just a quick note here. There is a DP++ port on the back of the system. This can allow you to use a passive Display Port to HDMI cable for outputting video to a standard TV or display. Otherwise an active DP to HDMI cable must be used. I hope this helps anyone interested in emulating this build.
Never Seen any other Displayport. All dp Ports are able to use a passive adapter
If only they would start making these CRT ready, or at least give us an easier option to do so
....why in the world wouldn't it have an hdmi port?
@@sircasino614these are mainly office and teller pcs.
@@Daniel-nm9rm Negative. Although usually if a device has only one or two, maybe three DP ports, it is typical that they will each have the proper silicon on the GPU to handle the output. However, typically, if you have three, four, or more outputs, only some of them can be used without active cables/adaptor. This has been the case since DVI, especially with the advent of Dual-Link DVI requirements.
NGL, Today I Learned about the DP++ logo. I have seen them before, but I have never really *SEEN* them before. It never clicked that they were different than the normal DP logo.
When you remove the SSD, you don't have to remove the "wheels" or support dimples. They can remain in place when you image the drive.
Excellent video. It's worth noting a few things:
1) The HP EliteDesk models are all *supposed* to have built-in WiFi and Bluetooth. In many cases, the sellers refurbishing these units will provide a WiFi USB dongle if the onboard WiFi / Bluetooth adapter is faulty or defective. What you need to look out for is that the onboard WiFi supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz WiFi. The dongle they provide usually only supports 2.4GHz and does not have Bluetooth capabilities.
2) The USB to SATA adapter you've shown will work with ALL SSDs and HDDs IF - strong emphasis on 'IF' - the SSD or HDD is a 5V drive. In other words, 12V drives will NOT work with the USB to SATA adapter. Nearly all SSDs and HDDs will tell you on the label whether they use 5V or 12V for power. Be advised that a USB 2.0 port on some systems might simply not have enough power to allow the drive to work. If at all possible, try to use a USB 3.x port.
3) The refurbished HP EliteDesk models are a complete and total bargain and a steal on Amazon ... BUT ... Amazon gives the refurbished sellers a LOT of leeway with regards to their listings. For example, I've purchased about 5 or 6 of these units for work, and two units came with defective onboard WiFi units (with a USB 2.4GHz WiFi dongle.) One refurbished unit I received had a bad display port connector and a faulty USB port. So, purchase with caution. Don't set your expectations high. Basically, prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
This comment is not intended to scare or deter buyers of these systems ... I've bought several of these units and my overall experiences have been very positive. Just be aware that if your unit comes with a WiFi dongle - you'll probably want to separately purchase a better USB WiFi unit. Lastly, double-check your BIOS settings before doing anything with the unit. This is probably something you should do BEFORE you deploy a Linux-based distribution to the SSD.
You are actually wrong about number two.
Firstly in adapter like that doesn't support 12 volt as you said but 12 volt is used for 3.5-in drives so that's the easiest way to tell.
The part that you got wrong is that you said it will work for all HDD and that's not true because depending upon what USB port you plug it into it won't support as much power and therefore some HDD won't be able to be used.
I have an adapter like that and with a specific HDD I had it would work perfectly fine on my desktop but the moment I plugged it into the keyboard on my Windows 10 tablet (yes that's a real thing) it was definitely not getting enough power to run.
@@bland9876 You need to read my post again, very carefully. Here's what I said regarding your specific comment:
_The USB to SATA adapter you've shown will work with ALL SSDs and HDDs IF - strong emphasis on 'IF' - the SSD or HDD is a 5V drive. In other words, 12V drives will NOT work with the USB to SATA adapter. _
Essentially, I never said that ALL hard disk drives (HDD) will work using a USB adapter (without an external power source) because the vast majority of USB devices (and adapters) can only provide 5V of DC power.
Basically, you're saying that what I've said is true - some (but not all) HDDs will work on a USB connection, while others will not. Keep in mind that there is VOLTAGE (i.e., 5V) and then there is AMPERAGE (i.e., 20mAH) . So, if your device operates at 5V and requires 1000mAH, but your device can only provide 5V 250mAH, you're not going to have enough CURRENT to power the device. This will heavily depend on the USB adapter providing said 5V power, and what amount of current (amperage) it can provide.
@@nopenottalib4366 Oh I see what's going on It's that thing where I'm like hey you said something wrong and then immediately explain exactly what you said just differently. I hate when that happens regards of whose side I'm on whether I'm the one that posted the original comment and someone else is the one responding to me.
Anyways not having enough current is very annoying and the worst example is the Wii U because stationary devices usually give you enough current. A laptop which is trying to save power it may make sense not to give you enough current for the freaking video game console with only 32 gigs of storage mind you wtf? Had to buy a Y adapter and use up 2 USB ports.
@@bland9876 My point is simply that USB adapters like the one shown in the video for SSDs / HDDs will only work with 5V drives. For the 12V drives you need an external PSU of some kind for it. I brought up amperage in my 2nd post because, as you pointed out, some USB devices (like unpowered hubs, such as the one in your keyboard) might not provide enough amperage. You're more likely to see issues with that in the mechanical HDD area, as there's a motor and such involved.
I haven't personally seen any 5V 3.5" drives, but I HAVE seen 2.5" 12V drives. That's why I made the point above the 5V will work, 12V won't.
There's nothing incorrect about what I said then, or now. I've worked in IT for the last 13 years. I've seen more hard drives and SSDs over the last 13 years than most people will see in their entire lifetime. I'm not bragging ... it's just my job.
Have a blessed day.
@@nopenottalib4366 Wait now you got me curious The keyboard that I was talking about was like a Microsoft Surface except really thick and with USB ports on it. I guess that counts as a hub because it's not part of the main system cuz you can remove the keyboard just like a Surface tablet.
I didn't know they made $2.5 in drives that needed 12 volt. That's a new one on me. They must be super power hungry and make your laptop die super fast.
Working in IT is super fun it's like working on cars but without getting your hands dirty. If you're super unlucky you might get thermal paste on your hand but that's about it.
Unless the ‘wheels’ interfered with the SATA connection, there was no reason to remove them.
My thought exactly.
Yeah literally just so he could get the screwdriver kit in the video lol
I'll need to do this some day. Sounds like a great way to keep enjoying classic and retro games without unneeded wear and tear on the games and consoles themselves. Plus you wouldn't have to keep switching consoles if you wanted to play a different game.
I deal with a lot of these refurbs - I strongly recommend replacing that kingfast ssd. They don't seem to last. Great video, so good to show what those can do!
The HP Elite Desk G2 should have a M.2 NVMe slot under the 2.5" cage, as well =)
My go-to SSD brand is Silicone Power. I've been installing them in various recycled netbooks and laptops, and they have never presented any problems.
@RCfromtheNYC so do they make one that would fit in this build? I'm not familiar with all of this, but when googling that, it looks like a different shape a product than the kingfast shown here.
@@sircasino614 Silicone Power makes both M.2 NVME and SATA SSDs. I rate them high on both durability and price. I have an M.2 setup as my Windows boot drive (using Tiny 10, an unofficial stripped down version of Windows), and I use my SSD to hold my Barocera build (which includes my ROMs).
@sircasino614 you want to get a 2,5 inch ssd
Just grabbed a Dell OptiPlex 5000 that was sitting out by the trash at a neighbor's house while walking the dogs. Plugged it in and turns out it's a bad SSD. Got a 256GB NVMe from Amazon and now I have a nice, mini-PC with an i5-12500T, 16GB RAM, and 256GB SSD for less than $30. The specs are probably a bit overkill for this project, but I don't have any other use for it. Thanks for making such a great video. This is a lot easier than trying to configure Emulation Station to work with Retro Arch.
You lucky bugger. 😊👍
But many people have no idea and throw away things may be only a simple fix.
A few years ago I had an inlaw throw away a laptop and in the laptop bag.
It wasnt particularly powerful but all it needed was a new power cord and battery.
Purchased this exact unit off Amazon. Thank you for the tutorial. This is a much rewarding hobby I dove into. Love it.
Definitely!
I followed all steps in this video and now I’m stuck. Can you help me?
Stuck where? This isn't that complicated. @@JmagsHero
For network access you can use the host name shown on the Network Settings menu, which is BATOCERA by default, instead of using the IP address. There's always the possibility your router can assign a different IP address but the host name won't change.
I'm glad you pointed that out. 👍
The IP was correct, but I couldn't access the Linux share with the IP address, however using the Hostname instead worked. Odd.
Neither worked for me.... :(
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Finally someone tells you how to do everything I've been wanting to do this for a long time thank you so much.
You're welcome!
I agree 💯
this video keeps popping up all the time and i keep watching it every time, i think its my favorite video. lol
I like the way to access the minipc from the regular pc for the copy-paste bios files. Such a simple task that I did not know existed. Wow am I behind as far as pc literacy.
Emulation is very CPU heavy, and these mini-PCs have pretty good CPUs, so this works quite well for emulation. The graphics in these systems are very basic, but the only thing that might affect is how much you can scale the picture on the emulated system. Of course, if you wanted to play any x86 or AMD64 native titles, then the graphics on these systems would be quite a limitation.
Pretty good compared to what? This computer has an i5-6500T, you could say thats bad compared to most cups on the market, only good compared to cpus from 10 years ago.
@@PlasmaSnake369 These computers are several years old. The CPUs are decent for the time they came out. What would be the point of comparing something more than 5 years old for $100 or less to a new computer that costs several hundred dollars more? The point of the comment wasn't to compliment the CPUs, but call attention to the limitations of the GPUs.. The point was that the CPUs are good enough to do quite a bit of emulation, but the GPUs are not good enough for anything but very lightweight or old PC games.
@@CFWhitman Yeah looks like it doesn't take that great of a a PC to run CEMU or Yuzu, I'm not sure exactly how they work but I know that the GPU can be the limiting factor in some cases like I have an Odin Lite and it can't emulate 3d switch games because of it's GPU
I may be trying this. I am decommissioning 300 of these for disposal this month.
Hey, any chance you saved extras? I would be extremely grateful if I could get one off you free or cheap! I'm broke but I'd love to have a console to play
i "accquired" a dell optiplex 9020 usff at the last hotel i worked at and put batocera on it a few years ago. then put in a m.2 card for wifi/blutooth and bought 4 8bitdo sn30 pros. its the family pc now
That's awesome!
That $100 American dollar Mini PC also makes a great MAME video arcade console I love. Use a 1 or 2TB SSD as that option for the Mini PC.
That's exactly what Im going to do with mine. I have a arcade cab running Raspberry Pi3B+. Going to upgrade it to a mini pc.
I flashed it to a external ssd so i can plug into any pc and play it, works great batocera is amazing
Or retrobat over Microsoft os.
Also, this PC has an M.2 connector under the 2.5" drive tray allowing you to add a NVMe drive =)
From what I've read on/r/batocera it can only boot from the 2.5" SATA and the m.2 has to be additional storage
Already got a 256gb one. Cost me no money
@@alansmithee.01that’s not true at all. Why would batocera care about what kind of drive it is?
@@alansmithee.01 I can't confirm with batocera, but Windows sure works fine from the M.2. Since it's just a simple matter in the BIOS to switch the boot drive, I don't see why it would matter if it's on an M.2 or the SSD, but I don't know.
I'm going to guess that that m.2 is actually a SATA in disguise. I hate that that is even a thing. Why did they not just make all m.2 NVMe and stick to using mSATA for SATA the world may never know.
I have one of these. It’s crazy how well it runs a lot of systems. Xbox, Gamecube, PS2, and Wii! It’s also smaller than a Wii. I designed a vertical stand for it and put it on my thingiverse.
I just bought the official HP vertical stand instead 😊
What about Ps3 games ?
@@shadigamal1973 Maybe some indies or something. I haven’t tried it.
No ps3 for this one
Where did you get rooms?
I just did this with a dell i3 that I got for $39 and it has hdmi. 16gb is way overkill. Windows 11 on an Ssd with Dreamcast and all the Nintendo games. I can play high quality;it’s retro games with my 3 brothers now like we used to 25+ years ago.
I just got a Intel 7th gen Dell Optiplex Micro. I'm gonna try to add a m.2 Oculink connector to it so I can use a External GPU when I feel like using more power. A i7 7700t should work for most use cases but it's still lower Power consumption. If you'd like something like that with an internal GPU try a Dell Precision with a RTX A4000 inside.. its a ways thicker and has weird power supply restrictions but is still compact compared to Desktops.
Wow. Can you explain a bit how to do this? I have also have that i7 in micro ff, and I'd love to add a GPU
Just a quick heads up, I've never worked directly with a 705 model, but if it is like most of the EliteDesk models, they may not all come with VGA or the second DisplayPort. These can be configured with different ports, such as serial or HDMI. I believe this is the same as the other models, as you'll note that the center DisplayPort has "wings" where you would see the screw mounts for, say, a serial port. (Although, typically, it is VGA vs Serial Port for the option.)
Not specifically important, but worth noting when buying if you want to connect to a CRT via VGA, or have a reason for a second DP connected screen.
thanks for this video I found it very informative and easy to follow. I have seen other videos where they walk you through the steps, but slightly unprofessional and hard to decipher. Good communication skills on your part.
Didn't realize it was you when I clicked the video, but hello again! Always love the content you put out.
Had to double check that I hadn’t clicked on a Kentucky Ballistics video. Lol
I half expected him to say “My name is Scott and you’re watching Kentucky Ballistics!” Lol
Lmao yeah we used to have same intro track
Lol YES, I couldn’t remember what intro I remember this from. And it’s funny because I watched Kentucky ballistics all the time.
Just picked up HP ProDesk 600 G4 Mini PC - WIN 10 (256GB, 6 core i5-8600T , 2.30GHz, 16GB) on ebay for 85 bucks.
This is the video I was looking for, damn. Thanks man
Glad it worked out!
Thanks for the heads up about these mini PCs. They seem pretty affordable and small enough for lots of projects. Normally I'd just get a Dell USFF PC for projects, but these seem a little smaller, easier to work on and a little more modern. I'd also never heard of Batocera but looks to be something similar to what I found on a Raspberry Pi I'd bought a while back. I'll have to have a bit more of a look into it since I've been using Linux more and more these days
I've bought a couple refurbished from Woot because they are dirt cheap there and something like this needs minimal computing power. You might also be able to add more ram, depending on the number of slots. In my experience it's always SODIMM (like for a laptop) for these mini machines.
@@kellyngrey4950 Cheers. Yeah, I bought a couple of different brands (Lenovo, Dell and HP) to check out the differences. Each have their pros/cons in terms of how they're upgraded. I do like the memory slots under the Lenovo, but you still have to take the top off to access it anyway. At least you don't have to remove caddys of fans to get at memory and NVMEs
I think Batocera is Debian based but don't quote me on that. It basically boots into EmulationStation with X11 underneath.
And that 6th gen Core i5 wipes the floor with any Raspberry Pi, even the 5 can't touch it. You can get these machines with i7's but for the purpose of an emulation machine you'd only see improvements for higher end gaming systems like PS3 and XBox 360. An i3 might hold you back on the mid-range stuff, so an i5 is probably a good sweet spot. They're regular desktop chips. For this purpose (emulation) you don't even need that much RAM, maybe 4GB will do it. Dual channel is a plus for the integrated video, though.
I thought that these mini PCs could take an NGFF WiFi adapter and that some may come with one, either way it's important to make sure that whatever WiFi solution you go with has Linux support. I went with an EDIMAX AC1200 USB 2.0 adapter (yeah I know, USB 2.0 is limited to 480MBps, someone tell their engineer) because it specifically said it was Linux compatible. It's a RealTek chipset. Pretty much any RealTek or intel WiFi should be golden, though. Maybe more than that, but those are the two brands I KNOW work.
@@SeeJayPlayGames Since this post, I bought a few different ones off ebay (HP, Lenovo and Dell). Hardware wise they all have their quirks to work on, but generally pretty easy. Although I did have a few issues with cooling in the HP mini G3 when I was just updating Windows on it (it kept switching off). I'll redo the heatsink paste and check the cooling fins when I get a chance.
Thanks!
Found your channel through Amazon. Just bought one of these. Very good videos with great detail.
Awesome! Glad you found me and I certainly appreciate your support!
As always a great video. Was there any games tested that gave you some trouble or had lag? I have heard that Xbox and PS2 and some Wii U can push these little systems past their limits. What are your thoughts Russ?
I would assume that depends on the computer's capabilities. These mini pcs usually have low end cpus and no dedicated graphics card, so it would be normal to have lagging with more demanding games/consolles. If you install this on an old gamer pc that has a good cpu and a dedicated graphics card you would probably have a smooth performance no matter the game.
Look at you using "Ctrl-A"... you show-off!! heh heh great vid man! loved it! Can't wait to make one of these suckers.. I never used Botacera before but dang looks soooo muuch easier than my old way!
No need to buy an external box just to flash the SSD. Just burn it to a thumb drive, run, and go to System Settings. Under "Storage", select Install on a New Disk. Choose Target Device (your SSD or HDD), the Architecture (X86_64), and click ON for Are you Sure? Then install. It will write the image to the computer's internal drive.
Those Sabrent adapters will in fact work just fine with 2.5" mechanical drives.
Using Batocera is great for older processors and because a lot of the emulator tweaks are built in. Another great choice is LaunchBox for newer ‘i’ processors, since a lot of the tweaks for things like Retroarch tuning/tweaking are also include in the current version of LaunchBox. This is a great time for retro gamers.
Would you recommend Launchbox for a 7th gen i5 processor over Batocera?
@@bluecko72 keep in mind launchbox is made to work with retro games up to current pc games. If you limit your games to retro games the 7th gen i5 is great for both emulators. I’ve used batocera with old old Intel processors and running games like nes and game boy and such work great, but it won’t run GameCube and Xbox 1 games. Same for launchbox. Launchbox is very popular with people who are unfamiliar or don’t want to use Linux, which batocera is. Choose your games based on game developer recommendations is your best bet.
It feels very weird to say but they dropped "i" in the name now so it's just core 7 or core 3
Thanks!
Thank you!
That's crazy dude, it plays switch too? Buying one now
What timing! I just got a handful of these in SFF! I was just trying to decide if I wanted to install windows and use LaunchBox, or setup Batocera! Great guide, I think I will use Batocera!
Perfect! You won't be disappointed
These are classified as TFF. Or tiny form factor.
Almost get the same mini PC! But in a secon hand store I bougth for $50 a Intel q6600 + 8gb ram+radeon HD 7950, and i upgrade the harddisk with a basic 240gb kingstone ssd and batocera, and ROCK
😮
I have a q6600 8gb gtx770 system I haven't touched in years.
Thought it was useless tbh
Great upto PS2, Xbox and Wii. Would be great if onboard GPU had some more oomph. Think the next step up is AMD.
I just use my wii to emulate any console pre 2006, works well and very easy to do
Thanks brother. Your how to video are easy for me to follow. One of the bests!
Thanks! Glad to hear that!
Happy Gaming Everyone 😎.
why do you remove the ssd and connect it to pc?
just flash batocera on an usb stick (min 16gb) and install it from there.
1. Makes the video longer. 2. Opportunity to sell items via Amazon links.
I've tested the external connector with mechanical hard drives. they work fine.
That's weird as it shouldn't work. The external SSD USB adapter cable should only provide 5V and most spinning drives require 12V for the motor. Anyways, I'm glad it worked for you!
I'm actually picking one of these up at the beginning of the month.
They are awesome! By far the best budget mini pc I've come across and nobody seems to take advantage of them.
@@OfficialChaseBrogan It's either going to be a 800 G2 or G3 mini, Optiplex 3050 or 7050 micro. They all can be found with the same i5-6500T processor.
Correct g2
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And Lenovo M700/M710Q/ M900
And Acer Veriton series something 😁☺️
Looked at one of these but decided to go with a SFF system as it gives a little more flexibility.
Fascinating. I mean that in 2 ways. One that the content of the video was fascinating. And 2 that you made what should have been a 15 minute video over 1/2 of an hour.
first of alll, good job on showing how to do this, but for me, that outside of the US, the machine cost heck alot more, about 250$ mark, then we have cables also needed to hook up the tv and harddrive also, iam better off using a pie instead. if i imported it instead, then i need to ad a converter to the price also.
An awesome tutorial. Can you please make a tutorial on how to connect to this PC running batocera an 8bitdo arcade stick (switch PC version)? And even better, how to connect 2 of them for 2 players games?
Oh man, this video is exciting me. I really want to make a emulator console like this, but I also want to add my own games to it as well. I build Unity games, cartoony 3D games for my son. His latest is he gets to play as a dino. Is it possible to make a custom "System" on there maybe with a Unity Logo that has his games in it?
I followed the link and my didn’t come with an ssd inside, never disappointed thinking I was gonna have it working today and couldn’t
It would be interesting to see a stress test to see what this system using Batocera is capable of in comparison to a dedicated gaming rig. Mostly, at what point does it sort of go "yeah, that's the limit for this machine. No mas."
Definitely have to do this now...subscribed
Much appreciated !
I have been doing this for years now. The Lenovo M75q Gen2which can be had for as low as $159 on eBay and it will play PS3 games.
Thanks for the tutorial. Its well step by step.
I was doing mame at first...but linux route looks clean to me.
I have two of these and was wondering what to do with them. This works!
Thanks for the video. As someone who is completely new to this, what are you doing for the controllers? Is there one controller that can deal with all the systems or are you swapping out? Can you make or reccomend a good instructional video, please?
Any usb controller for pc will work great whether it's a wired controller or wireless via usb dongle. You can get specialty controllers like n64 for n64 or just simply use a PlayStation style for everything. Anything is possible as long as it's pc compatible.
The only thing Im thinkin is why did we have to take the wheels off to plug it in to the computer?? Lol. But this is really cool. Think Im gonna try it
explained ten times better than dedicated batocera channels. Amazing. Batocera nation couldn't explain how to hold a baseball
lmao much appreciated!
love this video! very helpful. would like to ask if the process is the same in macs? Thank you
Just quicker to hit the network it will show all on network.
Thank you devs! Botacera is insane.
This mario kart reminds me of the fun I had with muppet racing game on ps2, might dig that up!
thanks for showing me a easy way to add roms to a botocera hard drive... now i can get my machine.
Rather than taking the hard drive out, could you just load lennox onto a flash drive and install it that way?
Thanks for the guide! followed it without issues just on a lenovo M900 instead but not really much difference
I built a console emulator monster with a Dell SFF PC (i7 8700, 16GB Ram and a RTX A2000) ❤❤
Can you put the Rom files on a flash/thumb drive and manually place the files into the necessary folder instead of connecting pcs.
The sabrant cable does work on 2.5” mechanical drives
SSDs use less power than a hard drive so if you have a USB only SATA adapter then you will only be able to use some 2.5in hard drives and most if not all SSDs
You will not be able to use 3.5in HDD because they need 12v and USB is 5v.
One thing about Batocera I've found is sometimes it's picky about what usb wifi dongles work. The one that works on my main windows pc doesn't work on Batocera so I had to shared wifi to the device for scraping.
Awesome video, I have a question, can you please do a video for connecting or using the original remotes for Xbox and Wii for example for this setup
Duuude. Epic walkthrough. Love it!@
Glad to hear it !
Are, you could copy all bios folders to a flash drive and copy it directly on your HP Botaceras unit. Because, everybody's pc is different.
I’ve been thinking of upgrading my PI3 for some more horsepower… this may be a better alternative to getting a pi5
Thank you, everything worked as described. 🤜🏼🤛🏼
I bought a switch and now I saw this 😂
I assume not all games' roms are still available compared to before where roms and isos were still more readiky available and I played it on my laptop using an emulator
I just purchased one of these and it was delivered without a SSD so I returned it and received another which also didn't have an SSD.
I reached out to the vendor and they told me that they have an NVME drive ont removable SSD
Excellent video.
I just bought a refurb HP EliteDesk 705 G4 for $105. I'd say it's a better machine overall, for tiny bit more $ (Ryzen 5 PRO 2400G (65W)
I followed all steps in this video and I’m stuck. Can you help me?
Love your content, made my own arcade cabinet but the computer side is hard work for me...your tutorials saving the day. Side note...why did you colour in your John Butler tattoo on your left wrist?
You’d be better off with a newer N100 than the 6500T in this unit.
Geekbench 5 Performance: In Geekbench 5, the N100 outperforms the i5-6500T in the single-core test with a score of 989 versus 785. For multi-core, the N100 scores 2840, while the i5-6500T scores 2449.
Thermal Design Power (TDP): The N100 has a significantly lower TDP of 6W compared to the i5-6500T’s 35W, indicating better power efficiency for the N100.
Memory Support: The N100 supports up to 16 GB of memory in a single-channel configuration with a maximum bandwidth of 76.8 GB/s, while the i5-6500T supports up to 64 GB in a dual-channel configuration with a bandwidth of 34.1 GB/s.
Manufacturing Technology: The N100 is built using a 10nm process, whereas the i5-6500T uses a 14nm process.
Release Dates: The N100 is a newer processor, released in Q1 2023, while the i5-6500T was released in Q3 2015.
Id even recommend putting nobara on there tbh. Windows is just getting too much bloat even if you disable stuff...esp on these kinds of systems imo 😅
Great video!! But you really dont need to remove knobguides on ssd :)
He probably had to remove them to fit in whatever dock solution he used for connecting the ssd to his main pc
Awesome! Can you add a separate or extended power switch to these mini PCs?
Set the pc in bios to power up when mains is connected. Then you can put a switch anywhere between the wall and the pc
Mini computer are getting better but i would like to see more mini pc that can attach a portable gpu with thunderbolt or something.
Older CPU’s don’t have the proper thunderbolt plug bor the direct connection to PCH so your wasting money and time trying it.
In 10 years though, that’s a different story…
When you censor the IP address when connecting to it through network, it still shows on the tab name before yuu enter share since explorer added tabs
New sub here,great work on this!
Just a question,it can run ps2 and gamecube too?
Is batocera mandatory, or will the games still run ok without it?
Major kudos on the step by step instructions. It helps this old guy make this work. One quick question after playing a game and the game is over. How do we get back to the main menu to play another game? Thanks
Hot key and start at same time.
If you havent changed what button the hotkey is then the default is select (for hotkey) and start.
The Batocera wiki covers this and other button shortcuts as well as other useful and important info.
So have a look there too.
I bought a 85$ Mini PC with a
2.6 ghz 2 core CPU
2GB Ram,1500GB HDD,6 USB
(HDD not SSD :( )
and it plays up to PS3/Wii/360 +66 other emulator (Batocera)
Connected to my 4K 55inch TV at about 10 feet with a 20$ fake PS5 ebay controller and a 3$ dollar store mouse.
Little over 110$ Canadian for 110 000+ games and even Red Dead 1 plays well.
That's awesome! What model pc
What if I’m using the harddrive on the computer instead of a external hard drive for the flash?
I did the same with a Lenovo m93p russ from retro game corps recommended it never looked back
Parden my ignorance here, but do you get the games from adding the Batocera BIOS information or only when you upload the ROMs? If you only get the games after adding the ROMs, where do you find the ROMs?
Vimm slair
I have a older Lenovo t420 laptop I have a express port to pci port for a gpu I upgraded ram to 16gb it has a i5 and emulation is pretty good I have not pushed it I may install this on there and give it a try I have a i7 that works in my laptop and the gpu I am using is a Gtx 1080 so I believe it should work pretty good
Batocera is a nice system but if you want to squeeze the most performance out of your machine in the later gen emulators you will find running windows will give better performance. Launchbox is a nice frontend in windows.
I have no experience with Linux, but I was under the impression that it is rudimentary and uses way less resources than Windows. How does Windows have better performance on a handicapped computer, considering how much of the cheap computers resources are being used up by Windows? I am genuinely asking. I have a cheap mini PC that I was contemplating using Batocera with, because the PC is weak... I have a great Desktop that I built last year that can run any console game through Windows & Launchbox without breaking a sweat. I just want a small portable retro system to take wherever I want.
What controllers can you use? Can i pair xbox controllers? Is it multiplayer too?