MILITARY COURTESY, RANK, DISCIPLINE AND CUSTOMS OF THE SERVICE 80984a
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Made through the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, MILITARY COURTESY AND CUSTOMS OF THE SERVICE is a classic U.S. Army training film about discipline, organization, rank and respect in the military. Includes lessons in rank recognition, how to salute, and much more!
Military courtesy, like civil courtesy means the marks of respect shown to each other by men who live and work together. Without this mutual regard, their task would be disrupted and disorganized if not impossible. Take a look at what happens in everyday life when people fail to practice courtesy: chaos.
At mark 02:50, we have a family wishing their son well on his army trip and the father giving him advice on subordination. At mark 3:50, we have the men of arm been lectured on saluting and the mark it carries to their leaders and ranks. One chevron on the arm is a corporal, 3 is a sergeant, we have the staff sergeant who wears one arc under the chevron, we also have the technical sergeant, who wears two arcs under, and also we have the first sergeant who wears a lozenge in the arcs. The master sergeant is the highest grade who wears 3 arcs under.
At mark 9:17, a lecture on insignias worn by different officers in arm. A single gold bar represents a second lieutenant, single silver bar rep a first lieutenant. A captain has two silver bars on his shoulders. A chaplain has the rank of a captain with a silver cross on him and he’s talking to a warrant officer with eagle in wreath on his coat. Next in rank of other captain is a major who has on his shoulder an insignia in form of a gold leaf. A lieutenant colonel is the next inline above a major who has an insignia of leaf on him instead of gold. A colonel wears a silver eagle on him. Both lieutenant colonel and colonel are referred to as colonel.
At mark 11:27, we have the picture of a brigadier general who wears one silver star, next is a major general who wears two silver stars and a lieutenant general with 3 silver stars who is above a major general. The highest hierarchy is that of a general with a 4 star ranking on him.
Salutes are also given based on the weapon you are carrying. If you carry a riffle, you give a riffle salute, also if you are carrying a pistol as shown in mark 14:37. You also salute by presenting arm. If there is a conversation, you don’t salute so as not to interrupt them as seen at mark 15:01, but if the senior salutes, then you salute back.
As seen in mark 15:08, In a moving car, all officers are required to salute except the one driving because he requires both hands to drive and when the vehicle is stopped everyone must salute including the driver. When it is obviously inconvenient or while at work, you do not salute but when you are addressed, you obviously just come to attention to reply the officer at 15:43. The same applies when resting due to drill periods you just come to attention but no salute at mark 15:50.
When engaged in sports, no saluting as seen at mark 16:00. Individual does the saluting when engaged in a formation as seen in mark 16:16. An officer in charge does the salute on behalf of the entire unit. No salute is given when officers pass through the rear of the unit as seen at mark 16:40, however, it is necessary for them to be on attention as they pass through.
At mark 17:50, Smith went to see company commander requesting for a week leave. At mark 18:55, we have the men in their cafeteria. Soldier addressed by officer sits at attention, as seen at mark 19:19. At mark 19:42, he is at home explaining the sign flag. A flag is an important part. It is raised in the morning and brought down at sunset with a retreat ceremony. In a military base, the flag is placed outside the commanding officer tent and soldiers whether in civilian or soldier cloth salutes at 6paces before reaching the flag post as seen at mark 20:35. The national flag are carefully put in their cases. We also have him explaining salutes in automobiles. At mark 22:50, we have the flag retreating, where all soldier are always in attention while some saluting.
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I love old America so much!!!
I truly thank PeriscopeFilm organization for preserving and making these videos available. As a 28-year career Naval Officer, films as this one represent the code of conduct and honor we learned to live by. It means a lot to me and fellow Veterans. All my gratitude and Peace be with you all for preserving our military heritage. Ciao, L Captain USN (Retired).
Thanks for your service to our great nation.
@@PeriscopeFilm Hi PF Team, you are welcome. It is people like you that makes it worthwhile, shows the YT community how hard it can be, and also explains what it is/was all about without the "fluff" of Hollywood. Thank you again, Ciao, L
Films like this bring a tear to my eye. It is so very fitting that they wrote this recruits grand elder into the story. The emphasis put on this young man's respect to his family and especially grandfather is what keeps such inspiring tradition alive. The script mirrored perfectly my own experience into the military as I was in constant touch by phone and letter with my veteran elders whom were so instrumental in raising me.
I was at Fort Bliss visiting my son and when revelry was sounded the whole base came to a halt. Joggers, cars, everyone stopped and saluted. I being a civilian stood, faced the flag and put my hand over my heart. Gave me goosebumps
That's every day on a military installation.
@@chadking6048 I know, it wasn't everyday for me, which is why it gave me chills. I suppose if you do it daily you lose the awe of the ceremony.
If you are wondering why a major general is ranked below a lieutenant general, it's because the original title of a major general was "sergeant major general". Over time, the sergeant part of the title was dropped.
Yes, yes, he is a Major General!
The title is irrelevant. It’s chain of command. Without a line of succession, there is no command structure.
Isn't it rather that 'lieutenant' before another rank denotes it is just below it? Like lieutenant colonel is the colonel's lieutenant. Also, the rank below lieutenant colonel is major, so that might have something to do with it.
And “general” was formerly called “captain-general” until the prefix was dropped.
That's Charlie Grapewin as Grandpa. Was in Grapes of Wrath as Grandpa. Excellent actor!
Enjoyed this film.
Good eyes! I missed that.
The grandfather is actor Charley Grapewin, best remembered as Judy Garland's Uncle Henry in "The Wizard of Oz."
While going through USAF basic training back in the 1980s, my training flight had difficulty in getting the military salute down pat, so I was given the “job” of teaching the rest of the unit proper saluting techniques. By the time I finished, every one of the 31 of us could salute perfectly. I believe the training served us well throughout our military careers. It certainly did for me.
Typical Air Farce......proud that 31 airmen successfully mastered the most basic military courtesy.
Should you need your lieutenant eliminated, salute him in the combat zone (for the snipers).
I’ve heard of that happening
Exactly why we seldom saluted in Nam.
We called that a "sniper check"
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I just thought of comedian robin Williams when he was on a uso tour and the evening retreat was sounded everyone snapped away from him and saluted. It took him s split second to realise what was happening and he stopped speaking. He got a lot of material based on what was coming when everyone turns and looks in the opposite direction.
Can't count the number of times I performed Retreat and the lowering of the Colors in my 27 year career, as an Air Policeman, then Security Policeman. When we worked Base Gates, we would stop all traffic in or out of the Gates, once we heard the Music "Call to the Colors" start.
Same was true on a Navy base. All traffic stopped, all walking stopped, all talking stopped, and even if you were a civilian you faced toward where the base flag was and gave the proper respect that the flag is due.
And the interesting thing shown here was it was a 48 star flag. The same flag I was born under and actually carried into a Boy Scout Jamboree in 1966 because even though 50 star flags were proper, many 48 star ones had a history behind them and so were still used overseas. In my case, Japan. I own a 48 star flag and it was first flown on the flag pole that use to be at the Winter White House at Key West after it was relocated to former NAS Richmond.
At Knox I learned you don't stand retreat while cleaning the inside of a dumpster.
Courtesy ......... We need it in to days World.............
Genuine courtesy. No more hearing grown ups tell people "YOU NEED to be respectful, you little sh*t" while not showing an ounce of respect themselves. A lot of these films and movies make it seem like if you're an older man, you get a free pass on treating people right, and that's probably why everyone's such a problem now a days.
Today, You don't have to step outside your car during retreat on any base. Veterans can now salute the flag whenever it's presented. God Bliss Our Troops. Good video.
That's not true at the posts I've been on. If you can hear retreat being played. You pull to the side of the road, exit the vehicle, and render a salute.
In An army post I believe you still have to step out of your car to salute during retreat. On an Air Force or space force space you remain in your car, but you must stop your car.
I enlisted in the ‘70’s, we gave a verbal greeting as well
"All the Way, Sir."
10:13 The only time in the soldier's enlistment that he'll see a WO!
I have seen 1 Warrant Officer in my 6 years as a Navy Seabee. He was our OIC for our detachment
@@americanmilitiaman88 I did one enlistment in the Navy, airdale. When I was getting short I was in a work situation where a WO was supervising. First time I’d ever seen one and didn’t know if I was supposed to salute, say sir, mister, chief or what. Lol!
Warrant officers were pretty common when I was in the Marines in the 1970s. As it was explained to us at the time the Corps was limited in how many commissioned line officers (typically company grade) it could have but still had billets that needed an officer to command same. The warrant officer was a way around the limitation.
WO's were also specialists in particular MOS's, typically technical. WO's were also given the same military courtesies that regular officers recieved.
Back in the 1970s in the u.s. army I was in a radar section in West Germany 🇩🇪 ,a W.O. was in charge of our radar section, but when I was in airborne infantry, I don't recall seeing a W.O. in our whole battalion 🤔 now that I think about it, I think w.o. were mostly around technical equipment. Who knows, I never really thought about it until now 🤷 🇺🇲🪖🪂 Geronimo ! i ETS's in 1984
Boy has the military changed today,,
love it thank
Arcs being Rockers today
Very informative video about military courtesy and bearing. If there were any discrepancy, it was near the beginning. When the Sgt. failed to call the troops to attention before dismissing them. In my experience, we were called to attention from the position or at ease or at rest. At that point, the order for dismissal was stated. One other thing, that was not mentioned, is that in a combat situation and in the field, officers were never saluted so as not to identify that an officer was present, to prevent them from being targeted by an enemy sniper. You would verbally acknowledge them by calling them sir/ma'am.
I'm guessing that this film covered the training received pre-war/early war, before they discovered the threat that snipers posed to officers in forward combat.
One thing not mentioned is once a particular officer is saluted and remains in the area it's not necessary to salute him (or her) again. At least that's how it was when I was in the Marines back in the 1970s.
@@davidmarquardt9034 I didn't see a date for the film but it is pre-1958. Because in 1958 the new rank of Sergeant Major came about.
When he introduced the master sergeant I was half expecting Phil Silvers to step forward…
Only thing that has changed is the rank structure. As for flag etiquette and customs and courtesies. Nothing has changed but the enforcing of it.
wow speaking as an army vet myself i learned things i never even knew but i'll openly admit i forgot many rules lol
and that being said many of the ranks in the vid hav changed today and overall the army is shifting away from this kind of training a little and focusing more on combat training
Makes sense. back then in the draft days it seems a lot of emphasis is on social engineering people to believe the army is the best option for them and to accept the structure of rank as it is, but in retrospect, it really comes across as "I'm the boss, so you have to do what I say" which wouldn't fly in today's volunteer based system. Especially knowing what we know about how higher ranks often meant taking credit for other people being fodder. Fortunately now a days soldiers of all ranks are treated with more dignity. Yes the heirarchy still should be respected as those who've been through it all know more than those who don't, but no more of that "He's your boss, so he has every right to treat you like cannon fodder". stuff I see hinted at in these older films....or at least I hope you're not being treated THAT badly. Course that could also just be hollywood talking out thier tails and the real army was a lot more respectful.
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Great video!!
I’m surprised the E-2 didn’t ask why the lieutenant general is a higher rank than the major general.
I can answer that question….. the overall commanding General of an army was once referred to as the (Captain) General…. His second in command as lieutenant (to the) general.
Below that and above a brigadier general who would command the left flank right flank or reserve is the (sergeant) major general who would command the center.
All words in ( ) have been eliminated over time, especially when combat stopped being done in traditional formations
This was made before the 5 star rank was introduced. it’s now optional to salute someone in civilian tire- in fact, it’s not usually encouraged. Some of these rules in the movie have changed…
Do you still address warrant officers as Mr?
@@imadeanaccounttocomment7800 I believe so.
@@imadeanaccounttocomment7800Last I checked. In fact, I have seen that particular quirk of address in some foreign armies-even using the local language equivalents-as well. I would have to do some research to see what the common heritage there is, although I suspect it's inherited from British practice. (In modern British practice, enlisted address warrants as Sir/Ma'am, but commissioned officers address warrants as Mister/Mrs/Ms. We may have simply dropped the former.)
Eating with your arm resting on the table is discourteous
I like how grandpa is just like "Shut up you cuck. You weren't in The Great War. You don't know shit about saluting."
That was a W moment for the grandpa. Plus it takes a second at most to salute, Not at all worth arguing about, and I really loved his "If you deserve a handshake, I at least deserve a salute!" and his "Courtesy is still courtesy and discipline is still discipline!" AMEN!
21:50 Grandpa quizzing the kid about the National Anthem seems odd considering Gramps military background dates back to the Spanish American War when the United States had no National Anthem; the Star Spangled Banner not being made official until 1931.
kristov29 Ok so that’s a poor excuse to get out of respecting our country.
The Army adapted the "Star Spangled Banner" to be used as the unofficial national anthem in 1892. The Navy in 1899. There were also several other songs that was used like "Hail, Columbia", "My Country, 'Tis of Thee" and "America the Beautiful"
kristov29 Hey...don't be using crazy Commie talk around here! This is America and you can take your treason talk and go kiss baby Jesus' butt!
@@jasonm949 You just censured a man for disrespect by yourself disrespecting Jesus in the crudest manner. That is called hypocrisy and frankly your attitude is many orders of dreadful worse than his questioning one. Well done for being a jackass. 'Treason'? That is you. He was merely asking a factual question. You and 'Model Man' (arrogant sounding idiot) are a shame to true US values. The US was born out of rebellion against unquestioning tyranny (monarchy) and with respect for the citizen and his rights first as indicated in our history and the Constitution. It is not the symbol in itself that matters but what IT REPRESENTS!
Key word -- OFFICIAL
If my grandson was going off to war, after giving the salute, my next command would be, "To your duty, fall out!"
Walk your post from flank to flank, take no shit from any rank.
I don't know what is going on, but there is far less respect for the Flag these days. Flown dirty, flown torn, flown not fully mast, flown in the dark without spotlight, flown in bad weather when it is not an all-weather flag or FAR WORSE. And no one salutes it?!
Thank you for posting this. It bothers me a lot to see how the flag is treated these days. I once went in a McDonald's and insisted they either take down or repair their Flag which was hanging on by the bottom eyelet. I was pleasantly surprised when the manager sent someone outside to bring the flag in. The next day it was flying again, properly secured. On the other hand, the number of tattered flags flying day and night in my own neighborhood is enough to make you weep.
According to the American Legion website, as long as there is enough ambient light to be able to recognize the U.S. flag when viewed from the street or side walk then no additional lighting is required.
As to your salute comment. Civilians don't salute the flag.
The military salute is a sign of respect between military personnel. In the Middle Ages, knights opened their visors to show their faces to each other. Knights used their right hand to show they weren't hiding a weapon beneath their cape. Over time this gesture evolved and became a sign of respect in the military.
When I went home from Marine Corps boot camp, I grabbed one of my civilian pals and we drove onto nearby Ft. Ord (then a Central Cali Army base, now eliminated). Waved on in by sentries (mid-70's security non-existent), we cruised out to the enlisted training areas. I eventually killed my lights, lowered my window and began bellowing: "Sergeant of the Guard, Post Number Five, Post Number Five!" Nearly pissing ourselves with stifled laughter we then waited in the pitch dark and began to hear the various men on guard at their respective posts, who all began yelling what I had, summoning the Sergeant running the night guard to Post Number Five, for reasons unknown. We then saw shadowy figures of Army recruits, legs wildly illuminated by the cheap flashlights they carried, who appeared to be nervously readying themselves for the action they anticipated was soon to come. We drove a few hundred yards, lights still out, and I repeated my call, except I changed the post numbers. And so it went -- wash, rinse, repeat! Then I began blowing a little nickel coaches' whistle I'd brought for extra effect. Soon we heard other whistles being blown by Army sentries and mobile superiors.I guessed. We watched the fun as those guys recreated the troopers' reaction to invaders unknown during the Tet offensive years before. Then, I quietly increased my speed, pulled onto a main road and we made our escape, speeding up with headlights on, back to a side gate and off post. We were passed head on by several jeeps and MP squad cars going toward where we'd been. This was a stunt I never pulled anywhere again. Today we probably would have been shot up as "terrorists" by lunatic soldiers with automatic rifles, saving the Union from the latest incarnation of the January 6 "insurrection". Yeah. It was better back then, during times in American history most insecure.
Semper Fi Marine! When I was driving home from 29 Palms in Califonia I stopped in at the Air Force Academy to visit my brother who was a cadet there. I didn't do anything outrageous like you did but man did I put on a show in my Marine officer's Dress Blues! A one-man parade through the whole campus!
Doesn't Ft. Ord still operate as a language school ?
" without DISIPLINE ,all an army is a uniformed rabble " . George Washington .
Salute!
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George Montgomery, a good actor, at 09.00 ca.
Is this before or after Nash Equilibrium?
This shows clearly how today’s daily episode of Divide and Conquer has left us with an inability to come together to accomplish anything, much less defend against a common enemy. Heck, we probably couldn’t even agree on the enemy. All by design. Sad.
Best comment i've read all day. Sad but true.
Question from a civilian: when he says that NCOs are not entitled to the salute, does that mean you are not _allowed_ to salute them? This would seem strange to me because if the salute is a sign of respect, it seems that every man should be able to choose who he shows that respect to. I understand that there are conventions for who you _must_ salute, but why can't you salute others as desired?
This guy was just having a swell time.
... till the bullets start flying, bombs exploding and his buddies dying all around him.
Golly gee. it sure looked like it.
Very interesting prewar enlisted uniforms having leather belts, 1SG rank having two rockers and black ties with khaki shirts
British Army... if it moves salute, if it doesn't paint it white...
In 60's US Army, If it moves salute it, I if it dosen't move pick it up, if you can't pick it up, paint it.
15:14 That's the special Army vehicle that only goes 1 mile per hour.
11:37 That MG is wearing signal corps branch insignia, but isn't that unusual? I thought generals didn't wear branch insignia as a rule.
As a rule in the Army they don't. When you reach general officer rank you lose your Military Occupational Specialty (MOS, reflected in branch insignia) and your MOS from then on is "general officer." However at the time (WW2) US Army generals had the option of designing their own uniforms so if that MG wanted to wear Signal Corps insiginia he was within his rights to do so, especially if he came up through the Signal Corps.
I don't know if US Army generals still have the design your own uniform priviledge today.
Discipline!
Respect and courtesy are rare such concepts today - unfortunately.
This film was made during WW2?
Is is true that salutes are forbidden in a combat zone when in view of the enemy? You always see that in movies.
Depends on the officer. The only officer I met who insisted on a salute in the field was a LTC who was not liked or respected. Every other officer in my career did not want salutes in any field situation.
Served 21 years in the Navy. Operations Specialist First Class Petty Officer; OS1(SW/AW)
Thanks for your service to our great nation.
You're welcome
I retired after 20 years in the Air Force as a Technical Sergeant. My wife retired from the Navy Reserve as a Chief Yeoman with 24 years service.
No E-3? The NCO ranks have changed a bit too.
Back when this film was made the ranks started at E-7 (private) and went up to E-1. Now it is reversed and they have added E-8 and E-9.
I've got my suspicions about the private in this film. Any soldier who wears makeup and shapes their eyebrows....
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Where can I find more videos about discipline?
Jocko Podcast
US Army ranks include some we dont have in British Army- one being the rank called Specialist.
Also Private E-4 (and other numbers). Is there a qualified person who can explain these two rank structures? Thanks in advance
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't crossed arms At Ease kinda reek of discourteousness?
Yes, although per 1941 edition of The Soldier’s Handbook (FM 21-100) the only difference between the “At Ease” and “Rest” positions is that at “At Ease” you must remain silent.
what ever happened to common courtesy?
Ich Liebe Ordnung!
No shit. You're a german...
These films are fun. You often see accomplished actors among the cast - here George Montgomery as a PFC explaining officer ranks. RE saluting - both giving and receiving a salute is a military honor. A civilian should never salute, and a salute from a civilian is an offense against custom. This includes the President, who although he is commander in chief, is yet a civilian and not allowed to salute, and should never return a salute. The idea that the CinC is a civilian and not a service member is profoundly tied to the origins of our country and its most profound idea - that civilians are in charge and that standing armies are yet under civilian control. When I see the President give or return a salute, I wince.
Looks so different from 1974
That Armed salute was not at Order Arms!
3:32 ??????
I'd be in the stockade for repeatedly screwing this up.
Is the mother's accent common in the US?
Mid Atlantic accent that many actors of that era were trained to speak.
@@deirdre108 very pleasant to hear
Her accent is called the Transatlantic. Early on with sound motion pictures, studios thought it would appeal to both UK and American audiences.
Not quite Brit, or American. Always sounded pretentious.
The on screen countdown bar is a bit distracting.
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Filmed in 1940s?
No five star general mentioned? So you figure your off the hook if you should meet Eisenhower??!!
The rank of General of the Army with 5 star insignia was created December 1944. Officers in this film are wearing Sam Browne belts that were eliminated as a uniform accessory in 1941. That would date this film as 1941 or prior.
It was taken before December 1944, when Eisenhower got his fifth star.
@@mattanjohnsonjohnson2396 And the main reason Ike got his fifth star was the British had promoted Montgomery to field marshal, the equivalent to an American five star general. A field marshal couldn't be subordinate to an American four star general, awkward wouldn't begin to desribe it!
I hope I never meet Ike!
when in doubt, whip it out
Doggies salute inside without a cover on?
Yep, they do Marine! (Or sailor. Not sure here.)
I'm dying to know the date of this film. Obviously not post World War II.
Only thing I can say is that it is pre-1958.
Does all this saluting go on today? If the kids I work with now are any measure, the answer is hardly.
Nothing has changed with customs and courtesies.
Yes and no. The indoor courtesies are now very different. Outdoor and flag courtesies about the same. I've never seen officers saluted when wearing civilian clothing, but maybe that varies with the post and the commander. There are typically reminders posted as to what is expected. "No salute area. No covers worn. "
@@darkwood777 The thing is if you recognize the individual as one of your officers you render a salute. If he's outside your chain of command and you have no idea who he is no salute is required. Nor should that officer in civilian clothing expect one.
A sloppy crowd for that lecture, national service in the British Army would have been different lol
I don't understand why he sent a written letter to his grandpa. Would it not be more simple to text him?
Speaking of discipline....you don't salute anyone out of uniform, gramps. Oh, and you also don't wear your cover indoors
Jason M what about at 13:08
you salute officers out of uniform if you recognize them, and you can wear a cover indoors if you're armed and gramps carries a .44 caliber so stfu, maggot.
Who would have thought a video from 70 years ago is about formalities as they existed 70 years ago and not exactly aligned with modern formalities.
You salute Gramps for being the elder of the family...and lifetime of heartache having to endure nagging of a old bag grandma is.
Back then, yes. This video was back then.
These things are great background noise
Calling it courtesy when you can be disciplined for not saluting isn't courtesy at all, it's simply obeying instruction.
Sir is a derivative of the word sire meaning father, and unless the officer just happens to be you father you shouldn't use it, you should address the superior by their rank.
Also the US Government should do women the courtesy of including them in conscription legislation, to give them the equality they say they aren't getting.
alright we'll get right on that.
"Sir is a derivative of the word sire meaning father, and unless the officer just happens to be you father you shouldn't use it, you should address the superior by their rank."
Sire was also used to denote respect. It's used everyday to denote simple respect, so that's silly.
It's military courtesy. Putting "military" in front of a word often turns it into an oxymoron.
Hell no...the women should do mandatory service like the Israeli women do.
@@mxferro NOBODY in the USA is mandated into service. Women, men, they, doesn't matter.
Makes me figure that this is why wannabe soldiers end up engaging in insurrection and sedition while thinking it is patriotism.
Bill I think you're a little confused about how things work here, and why they work.
wtf
Not too hard to understand. Discipline is the heart and soul of an army. It makes the small and weak into a powerful force that are a challenge to defeat.
It's history bro.
Tape MAGA eyelids open and force them to watch this until they realize that their petty hate is far from Patriotic
The MAGA political movement has on average about the same level of etiquette that Trump does. They're pretty unhinged even if I agree with a good portion of their policy.
Not a whole lot different to Fascism........
We need fascism in America.
Discipline is needed for any military to function. Showing respect to those in authority over you is not at all exclusive to fascism. In fact, I'd say that the existence of any government demands that people submit to its authority.
@@mattanjohnsonjohnson2396 In a long line of absolute rulers, you're eventually going to get one that sucks, and it will quite literally be an unmitigated disaster because there will be nobody to tell them "your idea is stupid, don't go through with it". Democracy isn't perfect, but we haven't elected any people who are truly retarded. Republicanism is peak, although it's hard to implement. By having the people select the most intelligent among them, then having those people vote, you end up with (in my opinion) the best leaders that any system of governance can produce.
Also, you literally only have that opinion because its edgy and you like disagreeing with common beliefs.
Only thing that has changed is the rank structure. As for flag etiquette and customs and courtesies. Nothing has changed but the enforcing of it.