1957 U.S. NAVY TRAINING FILM " NAVAL CUSTOMS AND COURTESIES: GOOD MANNERS IN UNIFORM " SALUTE 21834
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This 1950s era, black and white training film from the United States Navy reviews courtesies that enlisted men should follow when encountering officers and civilians in different situations. Unclassified. United States Navy Training Film. US Naval Photographic Center. MN 7898 A 1957. Naval Customs and Courtesies. Good Manners in Uniform. The film opens with a sailor opening the door for lady as they enter a Yellow cab. A sailor pulls out a chair for his lunch guest 1:00. Officers and sailors salute one another 1:12. Courtesy at the Shore Station. Recruits come to a training center 1:23. Sailors salute officers in passing 1:40. Sailor salutes a woman officer 2:20. Sailor holds the door for an officer 2:40. Courtesy to the National Anthem. Sailor salutes to the flag where civilians cover their heart 3:30. Courtesy to the Colors. Sailors raise the flag 3:46. Passengers in a boat will remain seated during the colors 4:11. Courtesy in an Office. Sailor remains at attention until an officer says, “at ease”. Courtesy on the Street. A sailor passes an officer on the street with a salute 5:16. A sailor walks with an officer 5:22. A sailor walks on the outside when walking with a woman officer 5:46. Courtesy Indoors. When indoors and uncovered greet an officer with a pleasant greeting 5:57. When an officer approaches and you are in a group someone yells, “gangway” and the group disperses to allow the officer to pass 6:13. When an officer enters a room the first person to see him calls attention 6:32. Officers and crew uncover when entering the mess 6:55. Navy men always uncover in sick bay quarters and in churches 7:11. In foreign lands it is good custom to uncover when visiting memorials or religious sites 7:35. Courtesy When Engaged in Work. You do not come to a salute unless an officer engages you personally 7:54. Courtesy When Engaged in Sporting Events. Salute only when addressed officially by an officer 8:08. Courtesy When at a Military Formation. Men in formation salute only on command 8:20. Courtesy to Civilian Guests. Salute a lady 8:56. Offer assistance only when it is needed 9:05. Present juniors to seniors 9:25. Courtesy Aboard Ship. Salute the officer on deck and request permission to come aboard 10:14. When leaving the ship, salute the officer and request permission to leave 10:30. Sailor blows the whistle for attention to colors 10:55. The flag is saluted until the whistle is blown 11:05. Men sit in the mess and enjoy a meal 11:35. Enlisted men uncover when they come into a room with officers unless they are on official business 11:51. Courtesy in Small Boats. Juniors enter a boat before and leave after seniors and seating is according to rank 12:30. Courtesy While on Liberty. Sailor salutes an officer who is covered 13:00. If an officer is uncovered an officer can respond with a verbal greeting. If you are both covered it is proper to salute. If you are both uncovered there is no reason to salute. If you are uncovered and not wearing a hat, do not salute. If you are uncovered but wearing a hat then salute 14:00. In some situations you can’t salute but you should always give a cheerful greeting 14:18. When in doubt, salute. 14:20. The Bluejackets’ Manual has careful instructions on etiquette and saluting 14:42. A sailor salutes 14:50. Sea Power for Security. The End. MN 7898 A 1957.
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I think some people here are confused over what showing respect really means. As a veteran, I can tell you that respect should be rendered to all officers your senior. Saluting them is not a courtesy, it is a sign of respect. You may not like the person, heck, you may have no respect for them at all, but what some here fail to realize is, the salute is a sign of respect to the rank and the office that rank holds. You MUST respect the rank regardless of respecting the person or not. This is one element that helps to maintain good order and discipline in the ranks of all the services.
You have it bass-ackwards, but OK Eisenhower.
The title of the video is "NAVAL CUSTOMS AND COURTESIES."
@@walterzoomie You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's not well educated.
@@carlgriffith4660
OK genius. Here are the definitions of the words "respect" and "courtesy."
Now then, tell me again who is "well educated."
respect
noun
1
: a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation
remarks having respect to an earlier plan
2
: an act of giving particular attention : CONSIDERATION
3
a
: high or special regard : ESTEEM
b
: the quality or state of being esteemed
c
respects plural : expressions of high or special regard or deference
paid our respects
4
: PARTICULAR, DETAIL
a good plan in some respects
courtesy
noun
1
a
: behavior marked by polished manners or respect for others : courteous behavior
b
: a courteous and respectful act or expression
2
a
: general allowance despite facts : INDULGENCE
hills called mountains by courtesy only
b
: consideration, cooperation, and generosity in providing something (such as a gift or privilege)
also : AGENCY, MEANS -used chiefly in the phrases through the courtesy of or by courtesy of or sometimes simply courtesy of
@@walterzoomie I would not call being able to cut and paste from a dictionary "well educated", again you failed Wally. As I said before and will repeat just for the slow learners, respect is for the rank and office, not necessarily for the person wearing it. Did you make it past E3 in the service Wally? Were you given something called a Section 8? Does that ring a bell?
"Section 8?"
That term hasn't been used since WW2.
Did you learn it watching Band Of Brothers, or playing Call of Duty?
This proves you are a poser and a fraud, and you couldn't lead a boy scout troop on a panty raid. Go back to your mommy's basement. Clown. Men are talking war and leadership here.
The fact you don't know the meanings of the words "respect" and "courtesy" and the difference between the two is telling. I suggest you peruse the leadership traits espoused by USMC General Mattis. Do you have more experience than he?
"We salute the rank, not the man" (Band of Brothers)
I have strangest feeling that I saw this in boot camp nearly fifty-five years ago. ;-) Ah thems was the days, thems.
Me too!
45yrs ago for me!
Saw it at RTC Orlando c. 1975.
The US Navy is the best in the world.
Sorry if you disagree.
Affirmative brother. 👍🏻
@@pitsnipe5559 🇺🇸👍
I remember watching this 30 years ago!
You and me both shipmate! Company 003, division 8, 1980 something lol
I love all these classics from a time when common courtesy existed & men were honorable, with good morals & ethics. What happened to the world?! It feels like egotism, entitlement, money, materialism, greed & selfishness has taken over the world more so now than ever before. I hope things will change soon & people will become honorable again!
...mandatory military service was ended.
To be expected when a society turns away from God
Is it a sign of creeping moral decay, or is it simply evolution of society? Things come and go. Are we uncomfortable because things are actually worse, or because they're different? There is an undeniable loss of elegance and je ne sais quoi... but fairness and justice are more evenly applied nowadays, so on the whole I can't bring myself to agree that things are _worse,_ and well like you I miss the simple courtesy is, I see things today as simply being more casual and relaxed. 🤷
@@jamesrecknor6752 ...there is no god...
@@wilgerdes3240 YOU......are a fool
Life used to roughly carry similar customs. We’re so rude and uncivilized now.
Well stated. Once you stop aspiring to behave as a gentlewoman, or a gentleman - all crap follows. The common aspiration now-a-days - to behave instead as those seen on Reality TV - was the absolute last shredding of hope for modern humanity.
I'll add - the "progress" pioneered by Lenny Bruce was probably the beginning. F*ck. I feel so much smarter by being able to use the F word in public. Thanks Lenny.
Nah, just overly cynical. There's a difference between being courteous and being "Told" to be courteous. I find people are generally very friendly and show great respect for each other, more so now than ever in the past (since we're no longer tolerating racism and other unnecessary hate), but you also have cynics online who keep posting and showing the worst side of humanity and cynics in the comments reminding us that the narrow rosy view of the past was when things were best. The best way to show courtesy to others is to just be respectful, PERIOD. No matter rank, status, gender, or anything. I get along just fine with my bosses as if we're good friends, and talk to my elders as if they're my peers and just the same I have nephews and nieces or young kids that appreciate an adult treating them like such, letting them express themselves and playing along with their slang instead of dismissing them as juvenile. THAT is respect. Not acting important cause you have a badge on your shoulder.
@@MarioMastar Humanity is basically garbage. The blatant disregard or scoffing at laws/rules that are intended to protect and serve EVERYONE is just one example. You may think of your supervisors as lateral, but there’s a pretty good chance they dont think of YOU that way. Presumably, they worked harder and have a legacy of success that warrants respect. That’s the underlying premise of this film and as I said originally society used to ROUGHLY follow something similar. If someone decides to perceive something as an affront to them, they get to treat that other person like trash because people choose to be so easily offended. It’s way more complicated than I care to address in a comment, but that you think people treat you with respect because you’re respectful or you’re a respectable person is amusing.
@@MarioMastar I agree with you, and also that respect is truly shown by actions - not just words. The days gone by had some very hurtful societal norms, but also some that were positive. We've made progress, in some respects, as to the bad societal norms - but also destroyed the good ones. If all people tried, we'd easily be where we need to be. Selfishness and self-centeredness, as a life philosophy, is what creates the false-reality rat race we all live in. The movie Wall Street, and the "Greed is good" justification for modern culture, is the antithisis of anything truly good. Contortions are required to disagree with that statement - when viewed as a big picture - and that's the only view that's true.
Wow, how far we’ve fallen as a society. Courtesy, decorum, and manners are long gone.
It’s true. You have a tangerine gorilla who’s fond of marrying Slovenian wh or es who briefly infested the White House
Funny that in the Italian navy where I served we had the same tradition, you do salute when you wear the hat
The origin of that is that back in the 16&17th century you would salute by removing your (likely feathered) hat with an elegant grand gesture.
With strapped helmets becoming more popular, this was replaced by the gesture itself.
But it remains the symbolic removing of your hat...only if you wear one.
*I remember watching this when I went to Boot Camp @ NTC/RTC San Diego in the mid 80s!*
The word "respect" is often misused. Everyone does NOT deserve respect. Respect is earned. Courtesy, which is what this video is about, is a given...especially in the military. When I served in the USMC, I had plenty of officers (and non-comms) I respected because of their experience, behavior, and leadership. I also served with officers (and non-comms) I despised because of their cowardice and laziness. I had absolutely NO respect for them, but I showed them the military courtesy they were due.
As they say "salute the rank, not the man"
Respect the uniform.@@johnallen7807
The landside scenes were filmed at Naval Training Center San Diego - now converted to civilian use and known as Liberty Station.
Some of those locations looked like the grinder (parade deck) and the surrounding buildings at San Diego, which is definitely still used by the Navy and USMC.
I ran into somebody that was telling me about all that recently. I understand that the mock training ship USS recruit is now part of a mall?!
and the ship-board scenes appear to be aboard the USS Arnold J Isbell (DD-869), a Gearing class destroyer that served in the US Navy from 1946-1974.
Yep. I thought the same thing: NAVTRACEN SDIEGO. Don't remember their routing indicator but . . . Well, it's been 50 years since I was an RM ;-) I looked the place up a while back. All gone, all different, ghosts. Ol' BTC Nash leading company 423 through the drills. And one of the guys from that time, his obit was in the paper yesterday. We served. Proudly.
@@haramanggapuja GMGC Farmer & ?SCPO Geiser. Can't remember anybody's name but Mike... he was from California & his sister was hot! His folks took pity on this 17 year old Yankee & took me with them; I can't recall the name of the restaurant, but the teriyaki steak was *_fantastic!_* & Mike's sister was *_HOT!_* 😅
They need to show this to all children and adults now... I was raised with most of there drilled into me (minus salutes obviously) and have adhered to them, a few years ago I worked in a blue collar setting where hats were required but our offices were connected and everyone there was suit and tie, I would remove my hat when entering the offices or cafeteria, people thought I was ex military but I would have to tell them... no, my parents and grandparents taught me this... it's sad how far we have fallen ss a nation. Our culture has been destroyed. I would love to go back.
If I'm wearing a hat, when I enter a home, building, or store I remove it for the same reason that you do: because that's what I was taught. But then I'm hopelessly old, too.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHHAHHAHAHA Culture destroyed because some pogue didn't take off their Mike Foxtotting hat? HAHAHAHA Mike Foxtrot THAT. A goofy statement
I'm 40 so I guess I am getting up there too...haha
"If you're walking down the street naked, never salute."
Unless it's the wife. She's the boss.
Stand at attention!
I was also pondering other scenarios when they had their long list of permutations of dress and hats.
"Don't mention it, Lootenant, they might've replaced you with one of them salutin' demons!"
(Bill Mauldin, "Up Front")
😅👍
For those who don't understand; Bill Mauldin was in the army during the second world war and drew cartoons for the 45th division newsletter, then Stars and Stripes newspaper. His most endearing and enduring creations were the infantry men Willie and Joe, who usually had some droll, pithy outlook on things near and dear to a GI's heart.
In this particular cartoon, Willie is carrying an officer piggyback to an aid station, & this is his response to what we may presume is his platoon leader's expression of gratitude.
Be kind and rewind
6:09 "Gang way"? nah... *MAKE A HOLE!*
On my ship it was either "make a hole" or "get thin"
When indoors you only say attention on deck when your CO or a Flag Officer enters the space, not all officers.
Oh the beauty of San Diego, such a shame now.
Navy, never again volunteer yourself 😂
Remember, kids (or perhaps rather the older contingent of our population) - true respect can only be given, not demanded. If demanded and proceduralized, it is merely acting.
Respect has to be earnt.
It's about being a professional and respecting the structure of the military. Respect for the uniform doesn't necessarily extend to the man.
HOT SALUTING ACTION!!!
If you, a junior rank, enter an officer’s room, and he is out of uniform, but his uniform is visible somewhere….salute the uniform. You are never saluting the person inside the uniform anyway. (Courtesy of Gunner Spike Milligan, in “Hitler, my part in his Downfall).
As a Vietnam veteran, I can tell you that in a combat unit military courtesy becomes irrelevant.
...Not in the Marine Corps!
A salute can get someone killed in combat! So will badges of rank.
Does anyone know what country the officer was from that the young man was saluting at 2:10? I'm thinking French from the salute style. I doubt it is British because the navy uses the same salute as the US but their other forces use the forward palm salute like shown on here.
Decidely French... cap is the giveaway as much as the salute.
Surprised at the importance hats play in all that.
Saluting is the symbolic removing of the hat (coming from musketeer times with feathers & grand gestures).
So the idea is, you can only symbolicly remove your hat if you wear a real one.
Reminds me when I was a kid in catholic church, men had to remove their hats when entering, to show submission to god, but women had to wear their hats to hide "their attractive parts".
You salute the rank, not the person. If you hate one of your officers, you STILL salute his rank. And there are some women I know who would lose their shit if they watched this. The part about offering assistance to a lady when needed would infuriate them. One I know will belittle someone who holds a door open for her. Just ridiculous how common courtesy is now sexist.
We need to bring the Dixie back into working uniform
3:14 Could be the origin of the saying "Face The Music.
I suppose I was trained old school. Some of these customs and courtesies aren't as strictly enforced with some of the new generation. 👮♂️⚓👌
A failure of leadership.
Back in the day - you needed to be properly dressed to go to the commissary - no hair curlers, ect.
Sooooooo, this where my wife gets it from.
4:06 "COX-un" lol. Coxswain was pronounced "Co-sun" at least when I served. :D
I can no longer recall:
1. Living in a world where one respects American women
2. Where anyone cares about our national anthem
3. Where anyone cares about our flag
4. Courtesy in an office where when you are being addressed by someone and they are not playing with their phone
5. Where there was any point to walking on the proper side of a woman
Maybe courtesy will come back?
I have literally seen all but one (#5) of these things in the past week. You should find new people to hang out with.
Sure you did. People are garbage.@@jermainerace4156
@@jermainerace4156#5 was an artifact of the horse and buggy days...protection for the woman from water and mud splash
Share your spinach.
What if a covered enlisted man dressed as Alexander the Great meets an uncovered officer wearing a ballet skirt and tutu while being spied on by a North Korean unicorn? Should he still salute or should he acknowledge by whistling 'Moon River' while tap dancing in Morse Code?
Nailed it.
...he salutes Period.
...or if the officer is carrying a live chicken under his left arm under a full moon?
What kind of parties do you go to?
🤔 it depends entirely on whether or not there was a blue moon last Saint Swivens day
They dont do these customs anymore its like ancient history now wow :) the oens I like are opening doors for women and flag respect etc those should still be in application status unfortunately I havent seen a man open a car door for a women in decades when in and out of the military 😂
I wonder how one acknowledges a fruitcake in today's Navy?😄
I suppose one thanks the person that gave them the fruitcake and perhaps offers a slice.
@@HM2SGT Yeah. Probably.
Mr. President!
Put the kettle on, get the plates and cutlery, and set the table.
Similarly I wonder how you address the fact that the tangerine nutcase married 3 Eastern European wh or es
So, a woman is her rank unless you know her name and then salute and call out, "Hey'a Boopsie!" I smell institutionalized disrespect. Drop and give me fifty.
I can't smell it.
Miss Smith
@@smacwhinnie, I would assume the use of "Mrs. Smith" for any married civilian and military women. (The Armed Forces allowed their women to marry back then, is that right?)
It’s “[Miss, last name] and it mentions in other cases that chivalry is demanded, “walk with a female officer on the outside” and when needed “offer assistance”. “Present juniors to seniors” and “present the gentleman to the lady”, clearly indicating womenfolk are of a higher rank morally, if anything.
What happened to addressing her as Ma'am?
Wacko. Too much to remember.
People were smarted back then. They could do it.
smarter
They had a way back then to encourage you to remember or your chief would find extra duties for you until you remembered.
Or learn the time honored tradition of avoiding officers.
You'll be given constant reminders and extra military instruction, to make sure you don't forget lol
It's honestly not that hard and the rule of "if you're ever unsure, salute" as said in the video will at least give you some leeway. After a few months it becomes second nature.
The military doesn’t have any customs or courtesies. We hire soldiers to prepare for combat. That’s it. Nothing else.
who is this "we"? this isn't your World of Warcraft team
@@greenflagracing7067 A group that you’ve never heard of. Taxpayers.
So let’s vote on the Navy. Keep it, or make it an Army division. We can put everyone in the military into the same Army uniform.
No more ribbons or badges. Just name and rank.
@@ronliebermann I don't think 1040EZs like you should have a vote. Now, go back to your Call of Doom game and let the adults deal with this.
I think you are demonstrating a certain lack of understanding about how the military works. These "customs" and "courtesies" are a key part of the foundation of military discipline and order. They are some of the things that makes the military different from, for example, a gang.
The good old days--not a black in sight.
Here ya' go racist punk. 6:18
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