I never fully understood this. According to Streamerbans there are streamers with 8 bans or even 10 bans and still be able to come back or that lady who got a short ban for having intercourse on stream (you saw the dude in the reflection).
Even though it’s technically legal, in the public’s view it’s not. Like if you’re in your 30s and you’re dating a 16-17 year old, you’re going to get your head kicked in eventually, doesn’t matter that 16 is legal here
So should he also go straight to jail if he was ok hooking up with an 18 year old in his 30s? Or 20 year old? Or 24 year old? You are full of shit. Outside of legal boundaries, you dont get to decide who people can do stuff with. If there is consent, and it is not going against the laws of the country, you have exactly 0 right to be wanting anyone in jail. Just cause age difference is weird to us, doesnt mean one deserves prison for it. Some people wanna be with an older person and vice versa. Who are you to say they cant?
@@TeenPerspektiva I agree. Acting like you get to decide if someone is allowed to be in a relationship when everything is within legal boundaries has the same energy as being a homophobe and giving bad looks to a gay/lesbian couple. They are consenting adults, let them be.
It's a combination of a society-wide increase in narcissism, a decrease in sexual responsibility, and the fact that psychopaths tend to be overrepresented in professions like streaming.
And the worst part: they aren’t punish that bad when caught. Majority will be repeat offenders and will be patient enough to wait out their time in prison to strike again. No amount of restrictions can stop a determined predator.
California has that too, but it's not always a sure sign to be clear. I had to get my license renewed when i was 19 and i had a vertical license until i was 23/24 because of that lol. I always got double takes when i handed my id to bouncers and liquor store cashiers
@@MinatheRaichu only had it replaced bc i got a license bc i could at last buy my car, i coulda kept it till 2025, which i assume is when they expect all the old ID’s to phase out but yeah
@@raijin4094 i lost mine prior to 2025 when I needed it replaced but before 21. So it's still vertical. I'm 25, 98 too. My bf does have the vertical one tho You mean the REAL ID for travel?
Another thing to point out: most "age of consent" laws are based on the state if you LIVE THERE. If you don't and you're just visiting, then it goes by federal law (which is 18 years of age).
oh nah, the mario pic HAS to be a reference to MiniLadd who famously used a Mario model in gmod to tell a p word joke back in the day just to turn out to be a p word irl years later after he got kocked out of the Vanoss Crew.
Even one of the Island Boys had the decency to immediately cut a girl from his home who was supposedly 18 and wanted alcohol. He had to doublecheck with his team and was exceptionally pissed off she got accepted +1 respect
The “age of consent is 16 in Canada” thing is so disgusting. Even in most states that allow 16 they still put a limit on the age gap until that person reaches 18 years old
Pretty sure it does have rules, just only the ones that follow the law. I mean I doubt a site like KICK where it's out in the public is gonna allow that BS
youre acting like twitch bans mean anything and they arent unbanned 1 week later (unless Twitch needs to fork over more shekels in their contract than they want to or think theyre worth then theyre go forever)
@@Saltheslab there are so many videos here on TH-cam about new kick predators being openly gross on the site, it seems like a whole category over there tbh 🤢
@@Saltheslabthough countless people have broken laws on kick already and not been banned from the site. Remember one of their co-founders illegally streamed the superbowl ( or some sporting event) lol. Another streamed XXX material knowing full well there were minors in the audience ( depending on the state knowingly showing XXX material to a minor is illegal).
She looks visibly young. She doesn’t even look over age or 18. She looks like she’s 13 even. It’s scary they even felt attracted to her with how young she seems
@megami215 so it's her fault that she has parents that don't care about her? Some clubs are 18+ and some clubs/bars will let minors in. How is that the minors fault?
Bro, the way he says 'You may not like teens. I do! I love em..' may be the creepiest thing I've heard in a very long time. That shit is pretty unsettling. I don't get how he says that shit then also tries to say 'oh, this girl lied to us and was clout chasing!'
I am honestly so worried my favorite yters are gonna be pedos. One who bashed Paul breech for being one was. I will be much more devastated than I should be if some like muta are. Even if I enjoy the content, I stop watching and hit don’t suggest channel
They keep referring to women as "workers" and talking about the women as products that they approve or send home, etc. So I hope the FBI also investigates them for sex trafficking in minors.
This guy has ALWAYS been around them younglings. Every time I caught him on my TL he was eyeing some girl who was suspiciously ever younger. As far as HE is concerned, I am willing to play it Mississippi and consider even
@@miras_edgevictim blaming is bull, but you need to agree that people who lie about their age should be punished, right? I think most sane human beings would think that both parties in this instance are deserving of punishment, with the PDF’s deserving jail time.
@@rt3chikin413 it's not the child's responsibility to tell the truth, it's the adults responsibility to discern the truth through basic logic. And if unsure of their age, ask to see their age on their ID. It's super easy to clock age, some people have more of a "baby face" but these people would probably be used to people doubting their age, and be comfortable proving it. (Personally, if I was ever to the point where I thought I NEEDED to check ID, I wouldn't bother interacting at all, as they look too young, also fakes exist, and I wouldn't be able to tell it from a real one.) Edit: 6:06 muta literally says this exact thing lmao
@@blakewhite3131 there was a story about a guy who was at a 21+ bar and the girl looked around that age. He didn’t even question her age since she was drinking, and ended up taking her home. She turned out to be 17 and the dudes life was ruined, he didn’t even know or realize he did anything wrong or have any red flags until he was arrested. A child has no obligation to tell the truth, but there are circumstances where I can see a grey area. All the bars I go to in my city usually hire police officers to check ID’s. If a girl was in the bar after a law enforcement officer checked her ID and she turned out to be underaged, partial blame certainly falls on the officer who let it pass, right? What the dudes did in the video was 100% sketchy and they for sure knew they were in the wrong, but there are cases where it gets convoluted imo Edit: the 17 year old was using her sisters ID in the story, so even though the guy didn’t check hers it still wouldn’t have mattered
To avoid demonitisation, instead of using the P word, use the British version: Nonce. Google has yet to figure out there are cultures other than Californian...
Or the Canadian jailhouse term, Goof. If you’re in Canada and someone decides to throw hands over that word, then you know you’re dealing with an ex-con.
By the sounds of it, you are dating for love... These guys...dating, love...nope... Its not even about pleasure, if they did they would go for a woman, its about controlling others.
What you are experiencing is a minor generational culture gap, where there's enough of a difference between both of you's. I find it hard dating adult women that are 12 years younger than me.
@@dwavenminer i try. my rule is 5+/5- my age. keeps things close enough to be familiar but far enough to be a large enough ring. because if you date too close to your age (let's say same +1/-1) then you have ruled out a huge portion of the population. Funnily enough i have only date girl that was younger than me (3 years). the rest have been older by a little big (2 were same age, 1 was different month the other was literally a day older than me, i still called her a cougar, bwahaha)
@@DarkForce2024The entire point is to swear to call God as your witness during testimony, but they have changed it to make it okay to swear an oath for secularism. But American society is falling apart without the Judeo-Christian values it was founded on because the whole idea is that you are starting with a person who has a base of morales. That is no longer the case thanks to secularism. These people are Godless without morales as you can see.
@@Byronic19134 In court you are bound over to tell the truth. You can swear on anything or nothing, it’s still illegal to lie in the witness box. Getting someone to swear to “God” in your house is not the same…
It's gotten to the point where I kinda do blame the minor or at least their parents then again I haven't watched the video yet but if it's someone that's like 16 or 17 I don't care cause they ain't minors by law if they are that age
He didn't call the minor the cloud chaser he called the girl who got the minor the cloud chaser. The girl who got the minor is a industry person basically she gets them for a lot of other content creators
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005 hate to break it to you but she s a minor and hes an adult of 30 years ... even if the minor is trying to get clout, its still on the ADULT WHO BROUGHT HER HOME
He blocked me on Twitter in the start of 2024 because I kept roasting him for being a 45 year old man living in a house full, of 18 year olds. I mean, it also isn’t chill that he would fist fight children, grabbed on women.
And it’s still stigma here.. or any girl dating a way older guy still in highschool like my friends did.. are gold digger sugar daddy girls.. THEY knew what they were doing..and they loved the money..
I think honestly America should just make it 16 like the rest of the world I had my daughter at 14 lol I don't think kids are really kids at that age cause I certainly wasnt
Well I'm "used to" the idea of it being 16 because I'm in Australia. It's just sort of built in knowledge. I guess he could have meant "used to thinking that's the law"... I often have a brain "record scratch" moment when US TV shows talk about "statutory R word" with a 17 year old... It just seems really weird.
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005Despite them probably being more likely to have sexual encounters these days with all the content online etc, you’re still very immature at that age & struggle to really make a completely rational, wise decision - which realistically, having sex and definitely kids at that age probably isn’t a very wise thing to do
Statutory rape is a hard liability crime, meaning the behavior of the victim is irrelevant to the actions of the criminal. Her having a fake ID doesn't get him off the hook.
I don't really think that's fair tho. Like if she purposefully faked her ID to try and set him up then that's just evil. She's even posting tiktoks making fun of him after swearing on her family that she was 18
@@jebrilKenny isn't saying this actually happened. He's just presenting a hypothetical to poke holes in the idea that the behavior of the victim shouldn't be a factor.
The real question is did Kick ban him because they morally disagree with what he did, or did they ban him because it would be bad optics if they didn't? Two very different reasonings, and given Kick's history, pretty sure they care more about negative PR than what their streamers are actually doing.
Definitely PR. Just look at the case of riot where he was actively getting the support of kick higher ups and only got banned when somethingaboutchickens made a video about him
He doesn't know.... Muta, there's a very old Vanoss GMod video, which included someone who actually was a creep IRL, who played as a Mario skin called Pablo as a creep...
If you’re in college, I think it’s smart. Underage kids show up to college parties all the time. Now, if you’re 30 years old, that’s a definite red flag.
The thing is, even if that was what he was going for, the joke still isn't funny, nor is it specific enough to make it clear who he's talking about. And I don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
even if the girls weren’t underage (which they most likely are *allegedly*) it’s still really creepy for men that age to be going after women who look that young. i have the same issue (19, but look 16) and the people who try to go after me are insanely creepy
It always happened, when i was 13, a guy that was 50 at the time met me in a social media and began to try to start a conversation about "intime" stuffs with me. They just don't streamed it.
There are so many cases of CSA material being made in the early days of the internet, or even of children being kidnapped, abused, and killed after meeting someone online.
My gf is 24 (same age as me) and she literally looks 16-17 and the fact she’s like 4’9 doesn’t help😕 we always get carded everywhere we go so this always isn’t the case
Worked with a girl that was two years older than me (She was 23 at the time) but was born with FAS and as a result looked waaayyy younger than she actually was. Not kidding when I say her face looked like it belonged on a 10 year old.
My younger sister is in her late 20s and looks 15. Her head only comes up to my chest. There are definitely people who just look young. Even then, you’d still be able to discern the difference
@@leandro6234 it's very debatable. but actually offering drinks for an underage person is not legal even if you don't know, neither is contributing to their delinquency and getting them drunk and grinding them on camera sexually for money as the delinquency. some of the girls were arranged by other persons for the streamer parties for these purposes.
Not really, she literally went out of her way to stream snipe them and had two or three fake IDs on deck to fool them with and ruin their reputation. A complete set up by someone who probably paid her to do it.
@heavyhitter9186 are you really gonna ignore ALL the other instances where the chat told him she was underage and ALL the comments about how he "don't care" the girls are underage? Please don't go anywhere near any schools and get your head checked, thank you
@@MauZangetsumy guy, you literally tried reprimanding a dude who believed the "plant setup" explanation, you'll have better luck making a dog sing the national anthem
Thats just your opinion. As such, it means nothing. You dont get to decide that for people. If laws are being respected, and both parties are consenting, then you being disgusted by it means nothing to anyone. You dont get to tell people what they can and cant do. Thats what the law is for. And even laws dont apply the same way in all situations. There is many different possible circumstances and situations and thats why different parts of the world have different rules for things
@@TeenPerspektivamost people agree that Legality and morality are 2 different Things,morality might be subject to time we live in but there is something that most of normal,well adjusted males agree on when it comes to teenagers,you are in the minority here bud
is it a coincidence that the same minor posted a I guess "meme" tiktok today to the kendrick pedo song saying certified minor, he was clearly set up, and she is milking it for clout, disgusting, Zherka once he found out she may not be of age immediately stopped talking to her and freaked out, mike is the one who said all the crazy stuff, Zherka is innocent
as my last comment, i don't think these guys understand the seriousness of the situation, given their lack of maturity I think they just don't understand that they are in fact potentially breaking a federal law, not just "being cancelled" by some angry 15 year olds on twitter. This could actually potentially ruin you IRL. It's all shits and giggles until you hear the words GUILTY coming from the judge.
consent is 18 in Canada. 16 and 17 have to do with something about being able to date with parental consent but it is not consent for intercourse. The weirdos on kick like to say consent in Canada is 16 but I had to check for myself and that's what came up
@@MonolithicCyanTsunami well he also did not sleep with them and kiss them still a POS but sleeping with a minor or at least someone not telling their actual age is way worse
You gotta love how they "joke" about being pdf files and then get offended at people calling them pdf files and start blaming the children.
ah yes, joking about being adobe acrobat reader format files LOL
(i know what you meant, i just wanted to make that joke)
These PDF files do got a lot of WORD for the children when they can’t EXCEL in their attempts to “joke” about grooming.
@@Knb1901 definitely making some POWER-POINTS my guy,
This OUTLOOK is not looking good for them.
Takes some mental Acrobatics on their part to justify this.
Kick is like a fake website that Law and Order: SVU would make up for an episode
“So you’re saying they get their kicks off this website?” - Ice T
remember Redchannit?
swear ive read this before
@@HK_808 wasn't Tobuscus also in that one lol
@@HK_808wait wtf no way. Google here i come
You have to be the worst of the worst to be banned by Kick....
Aint no way, bruh how is Uncle doing?
Fr you have to do worse than committing crimes or something
I never fully understood this. According to Streamerbans there are streamers with 8 bans or even 10 bans and still be able to come back or that lady who got a short ban for having intercourse on stream (you saw the dude in the reflection).
To top jonnysomali guy on Kick is the worst accomplishment to have in your life😕
it's like Hitler banning you from the Reich for being TOO racist
For some reason, when I heard "Mario is the P word" my immediate thought was "yeah, Mario is a plumber"... lol
Good ending
the true ending
And a paisan!
I think it was a miniLadd reference but idk
@@sammylastname8776Pretty sure it is.
Saying "age of consent in Canada is 16" means that he has no issues hooking up with a 16 year old when hes in his 30s. He should go straight to jail.
Even though it’s technically legal, in the public’s view it’s not. Like if you’re in your 30s and you’re dating a 16-17 year old, you’re going to get your head kicked in eventually, doesn’t matter that 16 is legal here
So should he also go straight to jail if he was ok hooking up with an 18 year old in his 30s?
Or 20 year old? Or 24 year old?
You are full of shit. Outside of legal boundaries, you dont get to decide who people can do stuff with. If there is consent, and it is not going against the laws of the country, you have exactly 0 right to be wanting anyone in jail. Just cause age difference is weird to us, doesnt mean one deserves prison for it. Some people wanna be with an older person and vice versa. Who are you to say they cant?
@@TeenPerspektiva I agree. Acting like you get to decide if someone is allowed to be in a relationship when everything is within legal boundaries has the same energy as being a homophobe and giving bad looks to a gay/lesbian couple. They are consenting adults, let them be.
These are the most vile replies I’ve ever seen in my life. The law is not moral.
@@AndresLionheart comparing homophobia to creepy age gaps is insane
How hard is it to not be a sex offender and/or a pedophile? Its sometimes shocking how common this is
It's a combination of a society-wide increase in narcissism, a decrease in sexual responsibility, and the fact that psychopaths tend to be overrepresented in professions like streaming.
Even the president of the US is one.
@@treedoor presidents
@@HunterStiles651 perfectly said
And the worst part: they aren’t punish that bad when caught.
Majority will be repeat offenders and will be patient enough to wait out their time in prison to strike again. No amount of restrictions can stop a determined predator.
Bragging about loving underage girls? Yeah, being banned is the least he deserves
Wasn't banned because of what he said, only because of the negative feedback that forced it
He deserves to be elected as a leftist politician.
@@MK_ULTRA420 might even pass in some country
Which is fine because Age of consent is 14-16 and 18 is arbitrary
@@mariomario1462nowhere in the USA is consent 14
In Florida, all Drivers licenses are vertical until the person is 21+. If she has a vertical license, and the DOB is from the 90s, it's 100% fake.
I actually still had my vertical ID till last year, im 25 and born in ‘98 lol
California has that too, but it's not always a sure sign to be clear. I had to get my license renewed when i was 19 and i had a vertical license until i was 23/24 because of that lol. I always got double takes when i handed my id to bouncers and liquor store cashiers
@@raijin4094 sounds like you only got it updated after needing to have it replaced.
@@MinatheRaichu only had it replaced bc i got a license bc i could at last buy my car, i coulda kept it till 2025, which i assume is when they expect all the old ID’s to phase out but yeah
@@raijin4094 i lost mine prior to 2025 when I needed it replaced but before 21. So it's still vertical. I'm 25, 98 too. My bf does have the vertical one tho
You mean the REAL ID for travel?
Another thing to point out: most "age of consent" laws are based on the state if you LIVE THERE. If you don't and you're just visiting, then it goes by federal law (which is 18 years of age).
oh nah, the mario pic HAS to be a reference to MiniLadd who famously used a Mario model in gmod to tell a p word joke back in the day just to turn out to be a p word irl years later after he got kocked out of the Vanoss Crew.
If that’s just a coincidence it’s beautiful
Exactly
They must have been "fans" to make that reference
@@TheKyatanna4119 He a fan, he a fan, he a fan, he a fan he a fan he a...
There’s no way Zherka knows who MiniLadd is lol.
Im fed up of this "playing a character" excuse, it's such bullshite
Well said, Brap Neeflap
“Bruh just a prank! Bruh it’s just a prank!” Phew! Thank goodness
Miranda Sings aka Colleen Ballinger 💀
When the character they are playing is just themselves moment.
That is their fantasies and they cover it up by excuses of why they are the way they are.
“One of the easiest parts about my job is not doing kids”
That's the quote of all time
Absolutely one of the quotes
"I won't do it with someone younger than my daughter, gotta be big 🎶"
@@diegomedina9637 ah, a man of culture
@@PeripheralVisionary.Yet some people don't have that sense of control. That shit happens and there's nothing they can do about it.
Even one of the Island Boys had the decency to immediately cut a girl from his home who was supposedly 18 and wanted alcohol. He had to doublecheck with his team and was exceptionally pissed off she got accepted
+1 respect
Those 2 are clowns not predators
Glazing Two zesty twins that kiss each other is crazy
@@BlazeEstGoes to show how fucking low the bar is.
@@BlazeEstHow is he glazing? He's just giving one of them props for at least having the decency to not fraternize with underage people.
@@Necroverse19 sorry didn’t mean to offend your besties
Zherka sounds like a name Jerma's chat come up with for an abomination he concocted in Kenshi.
Thats literally what i was thinking omgg 😂
I can't even put Jerma in the same universe as these "people", though I get the joke
I remember Jerma said “he’s zerking off” or something like that
He’d be the stay at home husband of Adam Standler or whatever tf he named that huge buff lady who looked like Adam Sandler 💀💀💀
The “age of consent is 16 in Canada” thing is so disgusting. Even in most states that allow 16 they still put a limit on the age gap until that person reaches 18 years old
You know it’s bad when the lawless KICK site bans you forever omg
Pretty sure it does have rules, just only the ones that follow the law. I mean I doubt a site like KICK where it's out in the public is gonna allow that BS
youre acting like twitch bans mean anything and they arent unbanned 1 week later (unless Twitch needs to fork over more shekels in their contract than they want to or think theyre worth then theyre go forever)
@@Saltheslab there are so many videos here on TH-cam about new kick predators being openly gross on the site, it seems like a whole category over there tbh 🤢
@@Saltheslabthough countless people have broken laws on kick already and not been banned from the site. Remember one of their co-founders illegally streamed the superbowl ( or some sporting event) lol. Another streamed XXX material knowing full well there were minors in the audience ( depending on the state knowingly showing XXX material to a minor is illegal).
Wtf has the world gone into
She looks visibly young. She doesn’t even look over age or 18. She looks like she’s 13 even. It’s scary they even felt attracted to her with how young she seems
Because they wasn't joking about being pdfiles
Then why is she at a club you have to be 21 to enter. Her fault. Her parents are non existent
@@megami215 belt
@megami215 so it's her fault that she has parents that don't care about her? Some clubs are 18+ and some clubs/bars will let minors in. How is that the minors fault?
The good ol' Tipster defense of "just because it looks like a child doesn't mean it's a child"
Bro, the way he says 'You may not like teens. I do! I love em..' may be the creepiest thing I've heard in a very long time. That shit is pretty unsettling. I don't get how he says that shit then also tries to say 'oh, this girl lied to us and was clout chasing!'
Society don’t like it. Thats why people say woodchipper.
Doesn’t matter if law says consent is 12.. wood chipper is waiting
@npcimknot958 *Western society.
@@AmonAnon-vw3hrwhat are you saying? Have you been watching too many redpilled content lately? holy shit lol.
@@npcimknot958Remember the only proper way to woodchip is feet first.
@@npcimknot958Yep. NOW GET IN
Really getting closer to the "every random person is likely a predator until proven otherwise" dystopia every day
I am honestly so worried my favorite yters are gonna be pedos. One who bashed Paul breech for being one was. I will be much more devastated than I should be if some like muta are. Even if I enjoy the content, I stop watching and hit don’t suggest channel
That's a really scary mentality. Getting examples from edgy online content creators with tons of younger fans doesn't accurately represent daily life.
I promise that this mindset is not correct or healthy to have.
@@jet9385 have fun in your bubble
They keep referring to women as "workers" and talking about the women as products that they approve or send home, etc. So I hope the FBI also investigates them for sex trafficking in minors.
even blurred she looks young 😭
In the recording, she sounds young. Like she sounds like half the girls from my high school. She sounded like 15-17 at first glance.
This is damn near distribution of kiddie stuff.
My niece is 15 and looks older than her and she's a baby. Girl doesn't sound old enough to even be out that late
she looked no older than 13…that blouse, that haircut? those scream middle schooler 😱
Promise you are above 19? Pinky promise?
Tell me you are above 19 or im callin Spider-Man
if you dont promise the boogeyman will come get you tonight
🕸
It’s like that other kick streamer that was like how old are you? And the girl said like 15 or something and he goes “I heard 18. You’re 18 right?”
Basically what the promise he got amounted to.
I thought zherka disappeared after he got his ass handed to him by that drunk dude on a date, but this guy solicited a minor. He should be jailed.
Me too,I wished it just stopped at that
This guy has ALWAYS been around them younglings. Every time I caught him on my TL he was eyeing some girl who was suspiciously ever younger.
As far as HE is concerned, I am willing to play it Mississippi and consider even
@@hiroshi7025 21yo is now a minor?? ya'll have gone mad I swear.
@hiroshi7025 So because you dislike him you want laws adjusted to specifically punish him. Regarded
@@BulkernatorKerb he dislikes for a good reason though
"Your honour. My client pleads whoopsie-daisy"
Would work in Georgia and NY at this point with how much a circus they’re courts have become.
It was a “lapse in judgment”
"It's a question!"
"Im used to being able to go down to 16". Brother, the age of consent doesnt mean that's the age you should be going after. Disgusting.
Then what’s the correct age?
@@Lenin_Batazo.anything not 16-19
@@Lenin_Batazo.People your own age.
@@Lenin_Batazo.If you're a 30+ year old man/woman, going for anyone under 20 is weird...
You could say he was “kicked”
ill give you a like
…. Get out…. You can take my like tho
*BOO.* Boo this man! *BOO.*
@@EatinPaste mr Burns: Smithers, are they booing me?!
Go to bed ….
If you’re over the age of 18 and watch kick unironically, please reevaluate
*any age
Same goes for TH-cam
@@BlazeEstbro felt attacked by OP cause you watch Kick, and tried to throw YT in there. that’s a big old stretch 🤣
@@BlazeEst TH-cam gets 5billion monthly active users over half the population…but k
@@BlazeEst you made this comment while being on youtube
I think the Mario pedo “joke” is a reference to minilad
Good point
Yessir, the dreaded Pablo😢
I think it is just a reference to an animated video we're Mario has a GF who's only 14.
the guy that wrote "she should be in jail" is most likely on a watchlist
worst part is how many men actually think like that
@@miras_edgeit’s bad to think that someone who intentionally tricks an adult into having sex with a minor belongs in jail?
@@miras_edgevictim blaming is bull, but you need to agree that people who lie about their age should be punished, right? I think most sane human beings would think that both parties in this instance are deserving of punishment, with the PDF’s deserving jail time.
@@rt3chikin413 it's not the child's responsibility to tell the truth, it's the adults responsibility to discern the truth through basic logic. And if unsure of their age, ask to see their age on their ID. It's super easy to clock age, some people have more of a "baby face" but these people would probably be used to people doubting their age, and be comfortable proving it.
(Personally, if I was ever to the point where I thought I NEEDED to check ID, I wouldn't bother interacting at all, as they look too young, also fakes exist, and I wouldn't be able to tell it from a real one.)
Edit: 6:06 muta literally says this exact thing lmao
@@blakewhite3131 there was a story about a guy who was at a 21+ bar and the girl looked around that age. He didn’t even question her age since she was drinking, and ended up taking her home. She turned out to be 17 and the dudes life was ruined, he didn’t even know or realize he did anything wrong or have any red flags until he was arrested. A child has no obligation to tell the truth, but there are circumstances where I can see a grey area. All the bars I go to in my city usually hire police officers to check ID’s. If a girl was in the bar after a law enforcement officer checked her ID and she turned out to be underaged, partial blame certainly falls on the officer who let it pass, right? What the dudes did in the video was 100% sketchy and they for sure knew they were in the wrong, but there are cases where it gets convoluted imo
Edit: the 17 year old was using her sisters ID in the story, so even though the guy didn’t check hers it still wouldn’t have mattered
the fact that grown-ups are so open to touching kids, and they're supported in the endeavor. It absolutely blows my mind
You know you're bad when a place with less rules gets you
and consequences knock on your door
Good observation
lol, the most bluntly direct form of all the shitty jokes in the comments, i fw it
I'm more surprised that kick even has the ability to ban streamers, I genuinely thought they couldn't.
@OnionKing38 Willingness not ability.
No wonder Drake started streaming on kick
They probably gave him a hefty bag too
@@theoutsiderjess1869what they paid him probably doesnt fit in a bag
To avoid demonitisation, instead of using the P word, use the British version: Nonce.
Google has yet to figure out there are cultures other than Californian...
Considering all that comes out of their mouths is nonsense, Imma start typing it Noncense
Or the Canadian jailhouse term, Goof. If you’re in Canada and someone decides to throw hands over that word, then you know you’re dealing with an ex-con.
@@LeotheleprachaunYou could address them with “Hey diddle diddle”.
I feel odd dating people 5 years younger than me and i'm recently 26, it's just so strange. i can't see the appeal.
By the sounds of it, you are dating for love...
These guys...dating, love...nope... Its not even about pleasure, if they did they would go for a woman, its about controlling others.
What you are experiencing is a minor generational culture gap, where there's enough of a difference between both of you's. I find it hard dating adult women that are 12 years younger than me.
@@simonwinn8757 is there really that much difference in 5 years? jeeze. welp, at least i know they are all legal XD
@@dwavenminer i try. my rule is 5+/5- my age. keeps things close enough to be familiar but far enough to be a large enough ring. because if you date too close to your age (let's say same +1/-1) then you have ruled out a huge portion of the population.
Funnily enough i have only date girl that was younger than me (3 years).
the rest have been older by a little big (2 were same age, 1 was different month the other was literally a day older than me, i still called her a cougar, bwahaha)
Dating is totally different than hooking up. I’m in my mid 30s and I would totally hookup with a 22 yr old, but I wouldn’t date one.
mario was played by MiniLadd too im pretty sure..
Chris pratt better check his closet
we call that pablo not mario-
Do not speak of Pablo...
Once there was a man. His name was Pablo.
He calls his mustache the taint tickler
I don’t think the “Swear to God” defence is applicable in US courts… 😂
😂😂
@@DarkForce2024I think solemnly also goes there
It is literally the first thing you do in court dude.
@@DarkForce2024The entire point is to swear to call God as your witness during testimony, but they have changed it to make it okay to swear an oath for secularism. But American society is falling apart without the Judeo-Christian values it was founded on because the whole idea is that you are starting with a person who has a base of morales. That is no longer the case thanks to secularism. These people are Godless without morales as you can see.
@@Byronic19134 In court you are bound over to tell the truth. You can swear on anything or nothing, it’s still illegal to lie in the witness box. Getting someone to swear to “God” in your house is not the same…
Like a true gentlemen when he is accused of harming a minor Zherka decides to call the minor a clout chasing plant and blames them online.
It's gotten to the point where I kinda do blame the minor or at least their parents then again I haven't watched the video yet but if it's someone that's like 16 or 17 I don't care cause they ain't minors by law if they are that age
He didn't call the minor the cloud chaser he called the girl who got the minor the cloud chaser. The girl who got the minor is a industry person basically she gets them for a lot of other content creators
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005 They are a minor by floridian law. 30 year old shouldnt be having sex with 17 year old
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005 hate to break it to you but she s a minor and hes an adult of 30 years ... even if the minor is trying to get clout, its still on the ADULT WHO BROUGHT HER HOME
@@callumreid6936 there's thing called context my guy
If the question even crosses my mind, I'm going the other way. I'm in my 30s. Talking to anyone younger than 26 just makes me sigh.
He blocked me on Twitter in the start of 2024 because I kept roasting him for being a 45 year old man living in a house full, of 18 year olds.
I mean, it also isn’t chill that he would fist fight children, grabbed on women.
He grabbed on women? What happened?
@@charliekelly735 many times he has groped the women brought on stream without permission and made them visibly uncomfortable.
Mans said "im used to Canada where its 17 or 16, i mean ive never done it but".
THEN HOW ARE YOU USED TO IT?! 😂
And it’s still stigma here.. or any girl dating a way older guy still in highschool like my friends did.. are gold digger sugar daddy girls..
THEY knew what they were doing..and they loved the money..
I think honestly America should just make it 16 like the rest of the world I had my daughter at 14 lol I don't think kids are really kids at that age cause I certainly wasnt
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005In at least half of US states, it's 16 or 17.
Well I'm "used to" the idea of it being 16 because I'm in Australia. It's just sort of built in knowledge. I guess he could have meant "used to thinking that's the law"...
I often have a brain "record scratch" moment when US TV shows talk about "statutory R word" with a 17 year old... It just seems really weird.
@@ELIZABETHMARLONE2005Despite them probably being more likely to have sexual encounters these days with all the content online etc, you’re still very immature at that age & struggle to really make a completely rational, wise decision - which realistically, having sex and definitely kids at that age probably isn’t a very wise thing to do
Statutory rape is a hard liability crime, meaning the behavior of the victim is irrelevant to the actions of the criminal. Her having a fake ID doesn't get him off the hook.
Which is pretty stupid tbf.
I don't really think that's fair tho. Like if she purposefully faked her ID to try and set him up then that's just evil. She's even posting tiktoks making fun of him after swearing on her family that she was 18
@@kungfukenny8098If this is real then why did he get banned form Kick, so stupid.
@@jebrilKenny isn't saying this actually happened. He's just presenting a hypothetical to poke holes in the idea that the behavior of the victim shouldn't be a factor.
@@HunterStiles651 but I am saying what happened. She said she was over 18 on live stream multiple times even though she was lying about it
The real question is did Kick ban him because they morally disagree with what he did, or did they ban him because it would be bad optics if they didn't? Two very different reasonings, and given Kick's history, pretty sure they care more about negative PR than what their streamers are actually doing.
Definitely PR. Just look at the case of riot where he was actively getting the support of kick higher ups and only got banned when somethingaboutchickens made a video about him
Yeah cuz every other corpo supports LGBT because of "morality" right?
They banned him because its the law, the only time kick hands out bans is when someone breaking the law. Just that simple.
lol how cute that you think there’s even remotely any possibility that Kick banned him for morality reasons
@@Kitsuniga_rilike twitch is any better. They just hide it better.
He doesn't know.... Muta, there's a very old Vanoss GMod video, which included someone who actually was a creep IRL, who played as a Mario skin called Pablo as a creep...
that's when you know you crossed a huge line in the sand when you get banned from kick
He'll be back
@@smokeygats1651 why?
@@КГБКолДжорджКостанца it's kick lol
@@smokeygats1651 oh right....I was afraid of that but should've seen that coming
Didn't Zherka own part of Kick? Yeah he will be back.
Being permabanned from kick speaks volumes 😭
og geezer got permabanned and didn't do nothing
Dude sounds like he deep throats cigarettes.
It’s the coke use, destroys your sinus cavity from the inside. He’s done permanent damage to himself.
He might be doing more in prison. And not the cigarettes...
It’s from the dr*g use, it destroys the sinus. Permanent damage.
And it's a fake voice too.. He slips out of character once in a while.
I had a dream about the ‘back rooms’ and every room had Mutahar greeting me’ “hello guys and gyrls” ….
Thanks for not dressing up the words in fancy language or codes
That's one of my biggest pet peeves as a CSA survivor
I'd rather dodge bricks in the dark than watch Kick Streamers
real
This comment made me laugh loud as shit in a silent restaurant
@@gleetR hahahahahah I'm glad to hear it mate, I hope you have a pleasant evening 🍻
@@LordFarm working my second job rn, thanks for the laughs and well wishes, cheers from the states 🙌
@@gleetR it's my pleasure 👍 Now, get back to work 🤣🍻
The age of consent could be 8 and that would not make it okay
But it's not
Well then u have no real basis to determine what an acceptable age of consent is. Its always gonna be an arbitrary number
@@havocmg highly suspect response
Did u escape from prison?@@havocmg
@@havocmg u weird af
The irony of Kendrick Lamar being played in the background
Muta’s not getting monetized with this one 🗣️🔥
Asking for ID is already red flag.
How
If you have to ask, they're too young.
@@amberhernandez oh true
@@Goldity..if the person you're with looks so young that you have to ask for her ID, then you shouldn't be with her to begin with
If you’re in college, I think it’s smart. Underage kids show up to college parties all the time. Now, if you’re 30 years old, that’s a definite red flag.
1:10 i believe thats a minilad reference. When he used to play gmod with the vanoss crew, he would play as Mario.
what do you mean? that’s Pablo
glad to know im not the only one that had that same thought, im almost 100% certain that the mario tweet is a pablo-reference
The thing is, even if that was what he was going for, the joke still isn't funny, nor is it specific enough to make it clear who he's talking about. And I don't think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
@@flarestorm9417 yeah
This man broke the depravity barrier.
1:31 there goes the sound bite, Muta. xD
even if the girls weren’t underage (which they most likely are *allegedly*) it’s still really creepy for men that age to be going after women who look that young.
i have the same issue (19, but look 16) and the people who try to go after me are insanely creepy
I am 50 I really miss the old days of the internet when this crap like this didn't happen much.
It's always happened, it just wasn't as noticeable
Creepers are always gonna find ways. It's all throughout history.
It always happened, when i was 13, a guy that was 50 at the time met me in a social media and began to try to start a conversation about "intime" stuffs with me.
They just don't streamed it.
There are so many cases of CSA material being made in the early days of the internet, or even of children being kidnapped, abused, and killed after meeting someone online.
It happened in IRC. There just weren't livestreams and clout chasing.
If they're so young you feel the need to check their ID they're too young.
My gf is 24 (same age as me) and she literally looks 16-17 and the fact she’s like 4’9 doesn’t help😕 we always get carded everywhere we go so this always isn’t the case
Worked with a girl that was two years older than me (She was 23 at the time) but was born with FAS and as a result looked waaayyy younger than she actually was. Not kidding when I say her face looked like it belonged on a 10 year old.
No because some women just look young. Women fully develop at 15 so this typa “argument” is 🗑️
My younger sister is in her late 20s and looks 15. Her head only comes up to my chest. There are definitely people who just look young. Even then, you’d still be able to discern the difference
This is the exception not the rule, not everyone ‘looks’ they’re age
Seen that dude walking out one of the Methadone Clinics the other day.
Him forcing her to confess to be 18. Shows what a creep he is!
And people ask me why I wont let my 10 year old son have a smart phone, or unlimited internet. -_-
They always find a way somehow. Speaking from experience.
Smart phone at 13
@@noctisebboy Doesn't mean they should enable the child.
When I saw this title I wondered how much CP he had instantly.
I assumed CSAM, yeah. When he said "IRL Streamers", I grew very afraid. Although it's potential softcore CP, so eughhhhhh.
@@diarawisteria2218what is csam
Well he's not a pedo
@@diarawisteria2218wtf is softcore cp
None, absolutely none sheep 😂
What is it Obiwan says in Star Wars? “You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.”
Basically that, except about Kick
Kiwifarms is worse. Possibly even worse than 4chan. That's obvious though. 😂
@@johns1625
Good things *can* come out of 4chan. Nothing good comes from that other cesspool.
Bro never left high school mentally.
Lock these predators up and get these girls a father figure, immediately.
Lock how? It is legal.
@@leandro6234bro is gonna start a keyboard war💀
Thank you for commenting this you saved the world single handily behind a screen 🦸♂️
@@leandro6234 it's very debatable. but actually offering drinks for an underage person is not legal even if you don't know, neither is contributing to their delinquency and getting them drunk and grinding them on camera sexually for money as the delinquency. some of the girls were arranged by other persons for the streamer parties for these purposes.
@@MemeGuy169 How is it illegal? Go on, we'll wait.
KICK and pedos goes hand in hand weirdly enough
underrated comment
A $10 flashlight could have avoided the whole thing
Not really, she literally went out of her way to stream snipe them and had two or three fake IDs on deck to fool them with and ruin their reputation. A complete set up by someone who probably paid her to do it.
@@heavyhitter9186rope
@heavyhitter9186 are you really gonna ignore ALL the other instances where the chat told him she was underage and ALL the comments about how he "don't care" the girls are underage? Please don't go anywhere near any schools and get your head checked, thank you
@@MauZangetsu ignored.
@@MauZangetsumy guy, you literally tried reprimanding a dude who believed the "plant setup" explanation, you'll have better luck making a dog sing the national anthem
Even if age of consent is below 18. Your morality alone should stop you from doing anything below 18
Why 18 specifically?
Thats just your opinion. As such, it means nothing. You dont get to decide that for people. If laws are being respected, and both parties are consenting, then you being disgusted by it means nothing to anyone. You dont get to tell people what they can and cant do. Thats what the law is for. And even laws dont apply the same way in all situations. There is many different possible circumstances and situations and thats why different parts of the world have different rules for things
@@TeenPerspektivamost people agree that Legality and morality are 2 different Things,morality might be subject to time we live in but there is something that most of normal,well adjusted males agree on when it comes to teenagers,you are in the minority here bud
@@YK-eg4vw your first point is irrelevant, as this is not a question of morality. If thats what the majority thinks, then the majority is wrong. Bud.
Agreed. It's just weird and very wrong, regardless of law if you are pursuing anything under 18 when you are a grown ass adult.
Thanks for amazing content and breaking the news so we can meme on the crazy unhinged individuals.
He trying to strike that chord… A minoooooor!
Zherka needs to rot in prison.
I remember him and sneako where hitting on a minor on stream
is it a coincidence that the same minor posted a I guess "meme" tiktok today to the kendrick pedo song saying certified minor, he was clearly set up, and she is milking it for clout, disgusting, Zherka once he found out she may not be of age immediately stopped talking to her and freaked out, mike is the one who said all the crazy stuff, Zherka is innocent
And ironically enough, that guy is some sort of Christian Bible thumper conservative.
They're NOT beating the allegations lmao.
@@hiroshi7025 100%
So is Ethan Ralph.
I very much hope the feds will investigate these fools.
The "joke" could be a reference to when MiniLad used the Mario model in that one Gmod video long ago for his Pedro character, but could be wrong
Props to you for showing the state’s age of consent. Some people forget how important age of consent is within a state/country and assume
Mario.. as in a character used by another PDF File in Garry's Mod. That's the conspiracy I'm thinking.
1:08 *MiniLadd has returned as Pablo*
Just arrest these people. Get em outta here.
Woah buddy, cool it with the alt right comments!
"Guilty until proven innocent" goofy ahh comment
@@zenixkiryuthis is stupid. They literally admit their guilt.
3:19 i wish i was that coke can
as my last comment, i don't think these guys understand the seriousness of the situation, given their lack of maturity I think they just don't understand that they are in fact potentially breaking a federal law, not just "being cancelled" by some angry 15 year olds on twitter. This could actually potentially ruin you IRL. It's all shits and giggles until you hear the words GUILTY coming from the judge.
I don’t think that was Mario. That was Pablo.
Chris Hansen or Skeeter Jean need to catch these kick streamers.
Or vitaly
@@Shuman777 bro tried to sneak in vitaly
@@Shuman777 we don't mention that pdf
That's a job for Gordon Flowers.
Both are hacks
mini ladd reference
Friendly reminder that David Bowie was a documented and notorious PDF file. The term "baby groupie" was coined specifically for him. Cheers!
Imagine saying "you're trolling me" to somebody in real like
Thats not the weird part, thats just generational slang
consent is 18 in Canada. 16 and 17 have to do with something about being able to date with parental consent but it is not consent for intercourse. The weirdos on kick like to say consent in Canada is 16 but I had to check for myself and that's what came up
For real I double checked myself crazy how people will blatantly lie like that 🤡🤡🤡
That's actually not true at all
@@charliekelly735 you don't know anything
No. The first result litterally says its 16. Stop spreading misinfo
you know its bad when you make EDP look like an upstanding guy
Make EDP look like an upstanding guy because what, EDP didn’t explicitly and proudly state that he likes teens?
@@MonolithicCyanTsunami well he also did not sleep with them and kiss them still a POS but sleeping with a minor or at least someone not telling their actual age is way worse
When Kick bans your ass that quick, you know you done fucked up
Zherka is a rock spider that needs squashing on site
Listening to this at work and My headphones go bye bye while opening the door to a resident... Pretty funny and awkard
I once had a dream where Muta was speaking spanish
I bet his Mario costume is a reference to Mini Ladd’s Pablo skit with the Mario avatar
Diddy and Drake got these people feeling _reeaaaal_ comfortable lately
AND THEY HAD THE NERVE TO BE LISTENING TO KENDRICK??? 😂
Somebody needs to get in touch with those girls' parents, let them know what these creeps are doing
Bro over here trying to do the Batman voice and creeping on kids. Put his ass in jail for life.
Being banned from kick is like being banned from the klan for being too racist.
Seeing "Mario" my mind went to "Pablo"
10:10 when soap gets in your eyes when ur taking a shower
@ 0:15 weak constitution? IM AMERICAN MF!
💀
@@tobyandahalfit’s an old saying.😂