CBK is on the payroll of TCL he can't really say that it is an overpriced phone, and that you should spend your money elsewhere. He was even praising the never existing speed of the KeyOne when it was released. If he would be honest he would admit that updates are never on time, speed of the device is midrange and build quality of keyboards is varying heavily from device to device.... Dunno why it is that difficult to built a decent phone with the keyboard of the Classic, proper screen and camera. Then, I would be actually willing to pay 699€ for that.
Completely agree with you Ole. Management of this company should be changed, all that they have been doing is degrade the Blackberry brand. I still have my Blackberry Silver Passport and you can tell it was manufactured with the criteria of quality first. Not the case anymore, should they continue in this path the brand will disappear and my Passport will become a valuable relic.
Passport se really was the peak of bb. I remembered I daily beat up the se drops crushing by pallets and it only ever had 1 dent. Not to mention the amazing batterylife. I really miss the durable blackberry phones. Imo if it has a phys keyboard it needs to be very durable.
@@EdgarDeSola I personally didnt like the lack of apps on it. I would personally still be on the passport if it had netflix, amazon video, ebay, etrade. And a handfull of others. That is literally it. The lack of good apps. I mean the stereo was phenomenal! And the fact that they keytwo doesnt have two speakers is unbearable. I used my passport for conference calls.
+Edgar de Sola bad design ,too big in hands,i like having number and punctuation etc on the keyboard to type with the alt button that wasn't the case of the passeport. other than that it was ok but then again that's only if we ignore the lack of apps
Really disappointed with the pricing of these phones. The Key 2 and Key 2 LE are absolutely overpriced for what they offer. Imagine comparing this to the Poco F1 of $300... Sad.
while it's true i think you shouldn't compare it to the pocophone since this phone destroys every other phone out there and xiaomi doesn't really gain much from hardware while bb or tcl are just a dying company that want to gain as much as it can how ever even if we compare it to 700 dollars phones they are still so overpriced and that's disapointing...i still can' figure out what the point of a bb with no capacitive keybad and only a 3000mah battery...
+RagingUtai it's because of idiots like you that compagnies overprice their products and get away with it XD no man this ain't a premiul expensive pkb not more expensive than another phone with no pkb but bigger screen and an actual glass or metal design but sure be a fanboy i mean that's how compagnies like apple succed and bb still not dying
+RagingUtai dude i never use cases i hate cases nor film protections for screen yet never have i ever crashed a phone and honestly phones llke samsung or huawei or lg are designed better than this bb and aren't all fragile (shoutout to me g6 standing like a beast) i unlike you ain't a dumb fanboy who pays an overpriced phone just for the brand name XD you're just like apple fanboys no valid arguments just dumb barking and insults
I've always been a BB lover. Loved it for what it is, for never letting me down and more. It breaks my heart to say this but KEY2 and KEY2 LE is a joke...
Jan Ole, good review! Like you I wish that BlackBerry (Mobile) would get the camera right. I mean a good one as well in low light. Also I see a need to be consistent with a Bold type keyboard for all models. Then price them based on the other factors: construction type, ram capacity, processor speed, etc. I got my Bold 9900 out of storage just to feel the magic of those keys again. I haven't tried the KEY2 keys. I hope you can go back to BlackBerry in the not too distant future.
I'm at the point with my Blackberry Classic where I have to upgrade....and now reading the terrible Key 2 reviews I'm at a loss. Would you recommend the Key 1 at this stage or it is already super outdated?
Blackberry is becoming socially acceptable again. This is very important to BlackBerry. Un like IPhone you have to buy a new one every 6 months for a dead battery. You want to control the world use BlackBerry best for security. Thank you
I wish blackberry will come out with the new classic which fully runs Android with bigger specs, better screen, better camera, stereo speakers and touch sensitive keyboard. I would buy it even it looks exactly the same. Classic is just perfect in size and feels like a proper phone to me.
I have to say, I own a Key2. And the Android part is my least favorite feature and my most hated one. I really dont like google and their need for data, so I think it is suspicious on my phone. I dislike the settings menue, cant find my hub with swiping left, bbm isnt as much integrated as it should be. I used it for a week and returned to my classic ^^ But if this will stop working ..Im using my passport or Q10 X D
Sadly he passed away. car accident ( driving under the influence ) and also blackberry is discontinuing their phone lineup , i'd recommend searching for a different brand , doesn't have to be expensive.
Hey oleh, man I used this technique you are talking about in the video where you talk about deleting android apk files, and went for the blackberry link you suggested there. My android apps have been deleted properly and completely. I am using a BlackBerry 10 Classic. I have a problem though, the sapce in my internal storage is becoming full and I don't see the cause. I have nothing in my files, it's just apps in my phone. My memory card is having lots of free space. How do I make sure that the internal storage gets freed up? It has 16 gig of storage and it's now left with 500MB. It's a problem. Any solutions? I want to have space. I tried everything. Any solutions you have there? I left a comment in the video and you haven't replied.
Not sure if anyone will see this, but was wondering if Jan stopped making You Tube Videos? or maybe he started another channel? I know Blackberry is pretty dead these days but I really enjoyed his videos
+izzudin well there is exactly 0 benefit he doesn't use bb , he never handled used or even saw this smartphone and he doesn't use bb anymore to begin with so i don't the benefit of this video
honestly you could'nt find a worse argument? XD just don't drop it or get a case plus the build quality of bb did you forget about it? this thing won't crack if you drop it keyone is definitly better
Good job with the review, mate. Really nice how fast your subscribers have grown in a year as well. I held off in buying the over priced Key2 waiting for the LE reviews. And as much I a like the look of the red color, I have to agree that if they took away the keyboard swipe, that totally messes up productivity. Although I am happy to hear that the camera version is a little better. Look they just can't seem to get it completely right. They should have just knocked off $150 from the Key2 and add various colors like they did with the LE. What the heck is wrong with this staggering company that can't pay attention to consumer and get it right? Now I think that I will just wait for the "buy like new" version of the Key2 as more people will likely start to sell theirs for the price that I would not mind paying $450-$500 and I will buy some red trimmers. Finally, don't worry about Blackberry hating your honesty. They need you and any other remaining support out there.
Also, the premium in the price is the bread and butter of Blackberry, which is "security." It's a fixed cost in the production of every phone BB has made in the past. Now BB farms out the manufacturing and charges the manufacturer money for the use of the Blackberry brand while simultaneously mandating that every Blackberry branded phone be equipped with BB's mobile security technology.
Momin Khan Niazi if u want the keyboard scrolling and using the keyboard as a cursor to copy n paste text ,then the keyone Black edition would be better ,since this phone doesn't have that. Key2 Le has a bit better processor ,is newer and looks more like a key2 in design...
faithful client for years, I defended it until the last moment but finally with this I understand that it is the end for blackberry, RENEW OR DIE “ CYCLE ENDED “
I think the device isn't that bad. People who don't take a lot of photos but are still active in social media can certainly benefit from it. But only if they absolutely want a keyboard and don't want to spend a lot of money ;) I am grateful for the videos and can understand your point of view, but please keep in mind that there may be people who could find the device useful. Mache weiter so und fühle Dich nicht gezwungen, nur BB-Videos zu machen!
I so agree with you. I find the predicament that most r reviewers find themselves i in is they're of a certain age group and their interest are kind of the same. I respect they have to cater to where their demographic is but, when it comes to certain product and other's needs, how useful is this opinion? I don't need a camera on my mobile but, I can use a keyboard, security, full day battery, good size screen. I could care less about gaming but, I could use a processor that can keep up with documents and the suite of production software I use. The ability to sync with other hardware like printers, larger monitors and projection equipment; where is that review. This is the reason why companies like BlackBerry and Microsoft are scrambling to keep up because people are being put in a box, and everyone is being lead in one direction.
400+ $/€ for a Snapdragon 636 with a BAD camera and 3000 mAh battery. Not cool. The only selling point they WOULD have is the keyboard, but even there they cut corners, since its smaller and not touch senstitive. Why would anybody buy this?
+ragingUtai are you dumb bro? 400 ain't nothing plus even if it was why would i pay it for something that is just flat out overpriced as far as i'm concerned the keyone black edition is the same price as this phone and is better in every aspect except a bit slower soc which i don't give a fuck about cause i don't game on my phone anw so what's the point of this phone?
I just bought the Key2 LE in Slate, to upgrade my Keyone due to to the fact the Key2 LE is the only new BB device that will work on Verizon in the States. Honestly I love it, my Keyone just slowed to a crawl and call quality was getting pretty bad. Maybe due to the fact it only had 3GB of Ram or maybe another reason. Bottom line is while its not perfect camera cough cough the performance is pretty descent and I am pretty happy with it!!
Wenn Jan Ole schon keinen BlackBerry mehr benutzen will, dann war’s das wohl demnächst. Die Begeisterung die du sonst an den Tag gelegt hast in Verbindung mit den BlackBerry Geräten, fehlt seit dem letzten Clip vollständig. Man merkt dir die Enttäuschung geradezu an und ich kann es nachvollziehen. Schade, dass es ab jetzt keine vernünftigen Geräte mehr mit physischer Tastatur gibt, die auch gehobeneren Ansprüchen gerecht werden.
Ich will tatsächlich gerne ein BlackBerry benutzen! Aber momentan ist es leider wirklich nicht mehr möglich für mich. Trotz meiner Anwendung als Geschäftshandy, muss es eben den ein oder anderen Social Media Dingen oder Ähnlichem standhalten - und das konnte das KEY1 deutlich besser. Ich hoffe es kommen passende Updates und Lösungen, die diese Probleme lösen!
You make excellent videos, Ole. As far as Blackberry, I never have understood why BB abandons models after the first go, so I was happy to see the Key2. The Q10 with a touch sensitive keyboard that scrolls and and a faster processor would be a hit IMO. Thanks for the review!
i agree with your view, cutting the touch sensitive keyboard was too much. maybe if you are putting cheaper components maybe the camera they should have just gone with one lens but put a good sensor in there instead of 2 cheaper sensors.
The thing I never understood was why they decided to keep the dual camera but remove the touch sensitive keyboard, when the selling point of the phone IS the keyboard. Focus on competencies, not doubling down to chase fads.
I still am, I still like BlackBerry, that does not mean I have to love everything they do and I never hid any criticism. BTW, no phone company ever paid me any money.
A much better film than your last. Less rushed, and the content felt better controlled. Agree losing the capacitive keyboard a major no no. Not sure who the phone is aimed at. Surely losing the keyboard features spoils the phone completely. The upside is the great colours, though that isn't enough as you say. Thank you as ever for your film.
The only possible argument - which I'm not totally sure I buy - is that they will likely support [i.e., update] the Key2LE for longer than the KEYone. Also, BB - sort your shit out on the naming spelling, geez...!
@@EmeraldLavigne I don't trust blackberry mobile to update these so called cheap downsized spec Key2 with an OS update to Android Pie. Plus their specs probably couldn't handle a gesture based OS update to begin with. Hell, they're horrible at sending out monthly security updates as it is now.
Sorry Jan. Anyone of us can talk specs and price. I was hoping you went to the Key2 LE launch event and actually handled the phone. I can see now that you haven't.
Thanks I value your opinion and I am willing to pay extra premium for Keyboard, security, and quality. All three matter and with BlackBerry if either one is compromised THAT to me is the deal breaker. I still have my Passport SE because of Keyboard, security, quality. I've not been convinced to change to any other phone I am not wanting to lose those three. Especially given the added bonus of my Passport's uniqueness compared to other phones. I wish BlackBerry would have focused on transitioning the Passport model into a reliable and secure android operating system instead of inventing the lesser quality/decreased functionality of the newer Blackberries. Once again, I am left feeling grateful and resolute that for now I'm still uber satisfied with my Passport SE
You see, this is what I don't understand with people comparing BB devices to other slabs. All these "sooo good for the value" $299 slabs are just that, SLABS. They'll offer virtually the same experience as any other boring piece of glass. Typing on glass will always feel stale. The BB keyboard experience is a unique one in this overcrowded and saturated market, filled with options that don't really do anything different from one another. Yawn.
And they're doing a really poor job with the software. They promised monthly updates and they're always months behind. The BlackBerry android software is laggy and a resource hog. It doesn't help that they put such low-end processors inside the devices. I'd wish for a top-spec BB but they would probably try to charge more than Apple. Fucking idiots, they are.
Great video as always, nothing to hate you for, you are just being honest as usual which is what most of us expect. BlackBerry is all about the keyboard so not making it touch sensitive is just kills this phone, I can see that they are trying to make a budget phone but this was just a bad move. Personally I would spend my money on the KeyOne rather than the LE.
I'm confused here. Why would Blackberry actually release a "Cheaper" version of the Key2 which equals to a crappier version of the Key2 as well. The Key2 by all standards in 2018, was already a disappointment when compared to other Flagship devices in the same Price range. How I miss the the times when the Bold 9900 was released. That phone made a much bigger impression on the world than the Key2 or even yet, the Key2 LE...
Gosh - I did not think of the businesses buying the phone - for cash really; for their employees. So that $400 or $450 USD price point might be a big deal; and "status quo Android users" .. well you won't miss what you never had .. and the regular one for folks who need that productivity. We also all know cellphone contracts contain $10-$25 of payment for the cellphone in it .. which if you crunch some number .. that $400-$500 figure is what that covers for $0 up front cost AND that allows retail pricing (ie profit) for the provider. Battery, I was thinking .. how much could it have cost .. $1 .. my suspicion is that with the lower processor they did not want the "LE" to have longer battery life than the regular KEY2 (figuring the boss will get the regular one, and staff the LE). Camera .. my KEYone is actually really nice .. but as someone said "in a vacuum" .. so I love the quality of the photos but if someone beside me has say a Samsung or Apple .. oh .. now mine are not nearly as nice often (if I use the aperture adjustment, it does help a lot). I wonder why InstaGram would have an issue .. I will have to look at your video on it (a lot of people do use the instagram stories so that should have been tested .. or repaired soon). Lastly the KEY2 price, I think they have a cushion in there .. cellphone companies want that profit .. so say an Apple $1000 has $300 for the cellphone company) .. KEYone I bet it was tight at $100 .. KEY2 they wanted to get that $250 to $300 profit in there so that the vendors will actually "try to sell" the phones .. right now it is a bit like pulling teeth as I'm sure the salespeople make more commission off other phones.
emerging markets using BBOS Bold phones can move to a cheaper KEY2 at a better price but yes Germany and the Rest of the world will stick with KEY2 vs KEY2 LE. Aso the BlackBerry Key2 and KEY2 LE have a harden kernel so with BlackBerry UEM it can lock down these KEY2 and KEY2 LE Android phones.
It was hard watching this video after he said that the champagne KEY2 LE was for the Arabs and stuff. That was soooo wrong to say on many levels! I don't think Jan Ole is a racist but that was an insensitive racial comment. The look on his face afterwards, he seemed to know that was the wrong thing to say. That should have been edited out.
@@Dr.Ijaz_ab Champagne is a color. People of many races might like that color. It isn't just a Arab or eastern color and to say it is a very racial thing to say. Now if BlackBerry is indeed marketing the champagne gold color just towards Arab and the eastern nations then BlackBerry is wrong too.
I did not mean to be racist in any way. I was just referring to some years ago, where BlackBerry f.e. released a gold q10 just for the middle eastern market. Also, gold items just seem to sell better in those markets.
Blackberry is joking with their pricing. Now I know that those keyboards , blackberry software and security updates surely do add value. However I'm not (surely alot of bb fans too) willing to pay for hardware that does not translate to on paper. Android is not iOS or BB10 , it is simply a monster that needs shit ton of power to keep itself running. Blackberry was not about raw power but consistent performance , so atleast put a SD 835.
Every year I hope the BlackBerry product lineup makes sense and is attractive again but I always end up disappointed. It seems that BlackBerry still can’t find its place in the market. it's a shame because they can’t keep living from focusing on such a small niche.
That's the thing. Wjen you don't have developers, people would be less likely to use your OS. And the other problem is Android and OIS. Android can deny their apps on BBOS so you're limited to the web browser and other basic apps. And with IOS, Apple built upan eco system that people don't want to leave. And the same could be said with Android. You may like an OS but there's no denying that it'll be hard using that OS if it isn't Android or IOS. Also, Blackberry was baught out by TCL so Blackberry just became a name instead of an independent company. So even if Blackberry wants to revive BBOS, chances are, they can't unless TCL gives the OS the green light.
Talks about the key2's price and how it's expensive but they took out the touch sensitivity of the keyboard on LE and makes a shit face and say that's sad.. Mate that cost a lot and they took it out to make the device cheap and available to a larger section who prefer anything below $500.
Blackberry as we know it is dead. It survives only with its last creatures with BB 10. Blackberry was mainly a software company which reached the top too late with its software BB 10. BB 10 is still usable and it will be in the future even though they will shut down BB store at the end of 2019 and you won't be able to use all the apps. I have a Passport SE and I am buying a Q 10 for practical reason. I want you guys do a practical task: Try and scan a more documents put them together in pdf and send them via mail for three times in a row. Do it with a passport, do it with whatever machine running android you choose, and do it with ios. that is the answer to all your questions. But of course phoines are no longer done for business purpose but for entertainment, tha's is why all the discussion about camera, apps and games. If you want to have a no thrill business machine, BB 10 is the way to go.
I miss this guy's videos. They're great.
When Ole is making more sense than CrackBerry Kevin
Fatberry Kevin. He is 40 and wears a "Supreme"-hat and acts like hipster with his double chin at the Key2 LE review. Hilarious
CBK is on the payroll of TCL he can't really say that it is an overpriced phone, and that you should spend your money elsewhere. He was even praising the never existing speed of the KeyOne when it was released. If he would be honest he would admit that updates are never on time, speed of the device is midrange and build quality of keyboards is varying heavily from device to device.... Dunno why it is that difficult to built a decent phone with the keyboard of the Classic, proper screen and camera. Then, I would be actually willing to pay 699€ for that.
Dude just stop making videos. Insufferable
@@BDV000 dude i think you should rethink your bs, what your are writing... cause Ole is totally right...
Completely agree with you Ole. Management of this company should be changed, all that they have been doing is degrade the Blackberry brand. I still have my Blackberry Silver Passport and you can tell it was manufactured with the criteria of quality first. Not the case anymore, should they continue in this path the brand will disappear and my Passport will become a valuable relic.
Passport se really was the peak of bb. I remembered I daily beat up the se drops crushing by pallets and it only ever had 1 dent. Not to mention the amazing batterylife. I really miss the durable blackberry phones. Imo if it has a phys keyboard it needs to be very durable.
i will have to disagree i hated the passport i would say the peak of bb was z10,z30,q10 these were beasts and app were still a bit there
What didn't you like on the Passport?
@@EdgarDeSola I personally didnt like the lack of apps on it. I would personally still be on the passport if it had netflix, amazon video, ebay, etrade. And a handfull of others. That is literally it. The lack of good apps. I mean the stereo was phenomenal! And the fact that they keytwo doesnt have two speakers is unbearable. I used my passport for conference calls.
+Edgar de Sola bad design ,too big in hands,i like having number and punctuation etc on the keyboard to type with the alt button that wasn't the case of the passeport. other than that it was ok but then again that's only if we ignore the lack of apps
Really disappointed with the pricing of these phones. The Key 2 and Key 2 LE are absolutely overpriced for what they offer. Imagine comparing this to the Poco F1 of $300... Sad.
To be honest, everything is overpriced compared to Pocophone F1
while it's true i think you shouldn't compare it to the pocophone since this phone destroys every other phone out there and xiaomi doesn't really gain much from hardware while bb or tcl are just a dying company that want to gain as much as it can how ever even if we compare it to 700 dollars phones they are still so overpriced and that's disapointing...i still can' figure out what the point of a bb with no capacitive keybad and only a 3000mah battery...
^ Yep they should have done this version with the no PK BBs
+RagingUtai it's because of idiots like you that compagnies overprice their products and get away with it XD no man this ain't a premiul expensive pkb not more expensive than another phone with no pkb but bigger screen and an actual glass or metal design but sure be a fanboy i mean that's how compagnies like apple succed and bb still not dying
+RagingUtai dude i never use cases i hate cases nor film protections for screen yet never have i ever crashed a phone and honestly phones llke samsung or huawei or lg are designed better than this bb and aren't all fragile (shoutout to me g6 standing like a beast) i unlike you ain't a dumb fanboy who pays an overpriced phone just for the brand name XD you're just like apple fanboys no valid arguments just dumb barking and insults
I am still waiting on the Passport 2 - If they make that Take my money lol
they can't android doesnt support squarre pannels (ratio) so no 1:1 squarre passport 2 on android
Are you coming back?
He passed away. car accident ( driving under the influence )
Where are you bro? It's been a whole year no update from you
Where did he go?
He passed away. car accident ( driving under the influence )
Can we delete the operating system and put other mode (system) for old blackberry
I have the Key 2 and I would miss those features but I think after time you would get used to the LE. When is a new device coming? Getting bored lol
So far, as I know, TLC stopped production of devices because the licence for them is running out.
Blackberry wont make more devices as it seems.
I've always been a BB lover. Loved it for what it is, for never letting me down and more. It breaks my heart to say this but KEY2 and KEY2 LE is a joke...
Yup - sad.
key2 is a joke too, bb is fuckin up again and for the same reasons overprincing....
They're better than KEYone, so doesn't that mean KEYone is a joke, by your logic?
I know this is a KEY2 LE video, but can I ask why you think the KEY2 is a joke?
+the_boon keyone is actually better than the key2 le in every aspect except soc
Did they actually say what markets they are releasing the colors?
I know the Bronze-Berry *WAS* only released in the middle east & India [I think].
Jan Ole, good review! Like you I wish that BlackBerry (Mobile) would get the camera right. I mean a good one as well in low light. Also I see a need to be consistent with a Bold type keyboard for all models. Then price them based on the other factors: construction type, ram capacity, processor speed, etc. I got my Bold 9900 out of storage just to feel the magic of those keys again. I haven't tried the KEY2 keys. I hope you can go back to BlackBerry in the not too distant future.
Need a new video soon 👍
Where are you? Hope all is well??
Kind of like the Q5 was to the Q10...
I'm at the point with my Blackberry Classic where I have to upgrade....and now reading the terrible Key 2 reviews I'm at a loss. Would you recommend the Key 1 at this stage or it is already super outdated?
Get a Blackberry Priv.
Blackberry is becoming socially acceptable again. This is very important to BlackBerry. Un like IPhone you have to buy a new one every 6 months for a dead battery. You want to control the world use BlackBerry best for security. Thank you
As a German guy have you been in IFA 2018?!!
It's over 500km away. I sadly wasn't able to attend :(
I wish blackberry will come out with the new classic which fully runs Android with bigger specs, better screen, better camera, stereo speakers and touch sensitive keyboard. I would buy it even it looks exactly the same. Classic is just perfect in size and feels like a proper phone to me.
I have to say, I own a Key2. And the Android part is my least favorite feature and my most hated one. I really dont like google and their need for data, so I think it is suspicious on my phone. I dislike the settings menue, cant find my hub with swiping left, bbm isnt as much integrated as it should be.
I used it for a week and returned to my classic ^^
But if this will stop working
..Im using my passport or Q10 X D
Nice ... agree with your assessment ... the "Atomic' is really nice looking.
Hey ole , love this content. I was wondering of you would still recommend a blackberry classic as a working device?
Sadly he passed away. car accident ( driving under the influence )
and also blackberry is discontinuing their phone lineup , i'd recommend searching for a different brand , doesn't have to be expensive.
Timotarius what the fuck??
Hey oleh, man I used this technique you are talking about in the video where you talk about deleting android apk files, and went for the blackberry link you suggested there. My android apps have been deleted properly and completely. I am using a BlackBerry 10 Classic. I have a problem though, the sapce in my internal storage is becoming full and I don't see the cause. I have nothing in my files, it's just apps in my phone. My memory card is having lots of free space. How do I make sure that the internal storage gets freed up? It has 16 gig of storage and it's now left with 500MB. It's a problem. Any solutions? I want to have space. I tried everything. Any solutions you have there? I left a comment in the video and you haven't replied.
Not sure if anyone will see this, but was wondering if Jan stopped making You Tube Videos? or maybe he started another channel? I know Blackberry is pretty dead these days but I really enjoyed his videos
Sir need your help,
Bought a refurbished blackberry passport and there is no default apps like music player , file manager , gallery etc what to do?
Where are you bro??
He passed away. car accident ( driving under the influence )
Why does blackberry keep releasing devices?
I want ask,...do you still use blackberry devices?
he said no he uses iphone x now
@@VampsBoy4 so what the benefit of this video? Better way I could watch kevin crackberry
+izzudin well there is exactly 0 benefit he doesn't use bb , he never handled used or even saw this smartphone and he doesn't use bb anymore to begin with so i don't the benefit of this video
but this smartphone i'm talking about the key2 le
he has became a young hipster and sell-out. iSheep now. He needs social media like a junkie. LOL
Where is in the earth I can get a blackberry priv 2?
Amazon
Agree that the Key2 LE should have been priced around $350 for the 64gb version since that's the only one available in the U.S. market.
Ole what will happen if i buy passport in 2019?
Is it required to do anything really productive like work on documents, or print contracts or make presentations?
Why you stop making videos?
He passed away. car accident ( driving under the influence )
i love these phone it is very good and very beauty. one of the best
Keyone vs Key2 le? Keyone! Better battery life, better price, more solid, probably better performance and build quality!
better performance i doubt and it's the same price (black edition) but yeah all in all keyone black is definitely better
Keyone is heavier and that's a disadvantage if you drop it, as the 180g will hit the ground with greater force than 156g of the LE
honestly you could'nt find a worse argument? XD just don't drop it or get a case plus the build quality of bb did you forget about it? this thing won't crack if you drop it keyone is definitly better
Good job with the review, mate. Really nice how fast your subscribers have grown in a year as well. I held off in buying the over priced Key2 waiting for the LE reviews. And as much I a like the look of the red color, I have to agree that if they took away the keyboard swipe, that totally messes up productivity. Although I am happy to hear that the camera version is a little better. Look they just can't seem to get it completely right. They should have just knocked off $150 from the Key2 and add various colors like they did with the LE. What the heck is wrong with this staggering company that can't pay attention to consumer and get it right? Now I think that I will just wait for the "buy like new" version of the Key2 as more people will likely start to sell theirs for the price that I would not mind paying $450-$500 and I will buy some red trimmers. Finally, don't worry about Blackberry hating your honesty. They need you and any other remaining support out there.
Same here. I'm waiting for a key2 sale. Would've considered the key2LE but if it's barely better than my priv why bother?
Thank you! I absolutely agree with you and thank you for your support!! :)
Key 2 will have the price of key 2 le now has in one year. Than I buy it.
Or, the priv2 will finally come out
I will also wait. I bought the KeyOne when it first came out and overpaid. Never again.
Also, the premium in the price is the bread and butter of Blackberry, which is "security." It's a fixed cost in the production of every phone BB has made in the past. Now BB farms out the manufacturing and charges the manufacturer money for the use of the Blackberry brand while simultaneously mandating that every Blackberry branded phone be equipped with BB's mobile security technology.
Is key2 LE is better than keyone? 🤔
It is. More ram, better processor better camera.
Momin Khan Niazi if u want the keyboard scrolling and using the keyboard as a cursor to copy n paste text ,then the keyone Black edition would be better ,since this phone doesn't have that. Key2 Le has a bit better processor ,is newer and looks more like a key2 in design...
Agree Key2 and Key2 Le should be priced at 500 and 300-350(64gn) range. Can i ask you guys Key LE or KeyOne?
Simple (not capacitive) keyboard. Just what a lot of people want. The KEY2 keyboard is too sensitive, I actually ended up disabling it.
faithful client for years, I defended it until the last moment but finally with this I understand that it is the end for blackberry, RENEW OR DIE “ CYCLE ENDED “
I think the device isn't that bad. People who don't take a lot of photos but are still active in social media can certainly benefit from it. But only if they absolutely want a keyboard and don't want to spend a lot of money ;)
I am grateful for the videos and can understand your point of view, but please keep in mind that there may be people who could find the device useful.
Mache weiter so und fühle Dich nicht gezwungen, nur BB-Videos zu machen!
I so agree with you. I find the predicament that most r reviewers find themselves i in is they're of a certain age group and their interest are kind of the same. I respect they have to cater to where their demographic is but, when it comes to certain product and other's needs, how useful is this opinion? I don't need a camera on my mobile but, I can use a keyboard, security, full day battery, good size screen. I could care less about gaming but, I could use a processor that can keep up with documents and the suite of production software I use. The ability to sync with other hardware like printers, larger monitors and projection equipment; where is that review. This is the reason why companies like BlackBerry and Microsoft are scrambling to keep up because people are being put in a box, and everyone is being lead in one direction.
400+ $/€ for a Snapdragon 636 with a BAD camera and 3000 mAh battery. Not cool.
The only selling point they WOULD have is the keyboard, but even there they cut corners, since its smaller and not touch senstitive.
Why would anybody buy this?
Would it be more acceptable to charge $400-whatever if it had the capacitive keyboard?
Still not. I would expect a stronger SoC aswell.
The 636 is a decent chip regarding CPU performance, but lacking in the graphics department.
@@RagingUtai Stop raging, Utai. Nobody spoke about gaming.
+johnny if there was a capacitive keyboard and a 3750-4000 mah battery this would have been a no brainer but they love to overprice stuff don't they?
+ragingUtai are you dumb bro? 400 ain't nothing plus even if it was why would i pay it for something that is just flat out overpriced as far as i'm concerned the keyone black edition is the same price as this phone and is better in every aspect except a bit slower soc which i don't give a fuck about cause i don't game on my phone anw so what's the point of this phone?
Blackberry Key2 Lifeless Edition...
1 ans sans video que deviens tu ?
hey! what`s up with your videos?
I just bought the Key2 LE in Slate, to upgrade my Keyone due to to the fact the Key2 LE is the only new BB device that will work on Verizon in the States. Honestly I love it, my Keyone just slowed to a crawl and call quality was getting pretty bad. Maybe due to the fact it only had 3GB of Ram or maybe another reason. Bottom line is while its not perfect camera cough cough the performance is pretty descent and I am pretty happy with it!!
BlackBerry Mobile whyyy!?
Wenn Jan Ole schon keinen BlackBerry mehr benutzen will, dann war’s das wohl demnächst. Die Begeisterung die du sonst an den Tag gelegt hast in Verbindung mit den BlackBerry Geräten, fehlt seit dem letzten Clip vollständig. Man merkt dir die Enttäuschung geradezu an und ich kann es nachvollziehen. Schade, dass es ab jetzt keine vernünftigen Geräte mehr mit physischer Tastatur gibt, die auch gehobeneren Ansprüchen gerecht werden.
Ich will tatsächlich gerne ein BlackBerry benutzen! Aber momentan ist es leider wirklich nicht mehr möglich für mich. Trotz meiner Anwendung als Geschäftshandy, muss es eben den ein oder anderen Social Media Dingen oder Ähnlichem standhalten - und das konnte das KEY1 deutlich besser. Ich hoffe es kommen passende Updates und Lösungen, die diese Probleme lösen!
This blackberry is 150$ worth only!
You make excellent videos, Ole.
As far as Blackberry, I never have understood why BB abandons models after the first go, so I was happy to see the Key2. The Q10 with a touch sensitive keyboard that scrolls and and a faster processor would be a hit IMO.
Thanks for the review!
Blackberry wants to release their device as per market......... And again Nice video Jan , Hope you get one in hand soon....
thank you!
god, Ole sure is pretty...
Dude can you make another giveaway but with Q20?
Still using my Classic and Passport. Really miss BB10 and Thorsten Heins.
i agree with your view, cutting the touch sensitive keyboard was too much. maybe if you are putting cheaper components maybe the camera they should have just gone with one lens but put a good sensor in there instead of 2 cheaper sensors.
My second BlackBerry was a red Curve so I would be more apt to get the Atomic red model
Although the non-touch sensitive keyboard is a downside
Nice observations as always Jan Ole!
I think they should've left the touch sensitive keyboard in for the price.
The thing I never understood was why they decided to keep the dual camera but remove the touch sensitive keyboard, when the selling point of the phone IS the keyboard. Focus on competencies, not doubling down to chase fads.
I agree on what you said about this device
The price is for bb fans. That's the market that they are after.
I see why you switched to iPhone now.
Golden lol its not cheap enough though
I will use the classic rather than key 2, I still had my passport SE, but ketone don't convence me tu upgrade
"UMA MARCA QUE , NÃO ARREPENDO "!BlackBerry.
Jan, you're not the same guy. Sad. I guess you had to eventually follow the money.
Derrick Searles lol what money?!
The money is wherever the other phones are.
I still am, I still like BlackBerry, that does not mean I have to love everything they do and I never hid any criticism. BTW, no phone company ever paid me any money.
Jan Ole Helmbold So do you dual carry the KEY2/KEYone with your iPhone X?
@@JanOleHelmbold some people have no sense of objectivity. Keep up the awesome work.
A much better film than your last. Less rushed, and the content felt better controlled. Agree losing the capacitive keyboard a major no no. Not sure who the phone is aimed at. Surely losing the keyboard features spoils the phone completely. The upside is the great colours, though that isn't enough as you say. Thank you as ever for your film.
thank you! :) I agree!
Good video mate!!
So. A keyone is better... and cheaper..
Buy the KEYone version with the 4gb of ram. It's around the same price as the Key2 LE. Better specs all around
@@Amnbluegrass I agree. Its short in a few areas, but track pad, better battery, better camera make it a clear winner imo
The only possible argument - which I'm not totally sure I buy - is that they will likely support [i.e., update] the Key2LE for longer than the KEYone.
Also, BB - sort your shit out on the naming spelling, geez...!
@@EmeraldLavigne I don't trust blackberry mobile to update these so called cheap downsized spec Key2 with an OS update to Android Pie. Plus their specs probably couldn't handle a gesture based OS update to begin with. Hell, they're horrible at sending out monthly security updates as it is now.
@@RagingUtai it has worse battery life. 500MA less.
Sorry Jan. Anyone of us can talk specs and price. I was hoping you went to the Key2 LE launch event and actually handled the phone. I can see now that you haven't.
Yep, he's not interested in BlackBerry phones anymore. It's obvious. Sad.
he is a fraud now,
He can do whatever he want, it's his channel. Don't like it? Piss off
Thanks I value your opinion and I am willing to pay extra premium for Keyboard, security, and quality. All three matter and with BlackBerry if either one is compromised THAT to me is the deal breaker. I still have my Passport SE because of Keyboard, security, quality. I've not been convinced to change to any other phone I am not wanting to lose those three. Especially given the added bonus of my Passport's uniqueness compared to other phones. I wish BlackBerry would have focused on transitioning the Passport model into a reliable and secure android operating system instead of inventing the lesser quality/decreased functionality of the newer Blackberries. Once again, I am left feeling grateful and resolute that for now I'm still uber satisfied with my Passport SE
Who the hell disliked this video? Good review as usual . Keep up the good work bro.
your mother
@@fairrttg989 thanks for being rude .
@@8bit939 okay. That was harsh and I apologise.
@@fairrttg989 no problem . its okay.
bro you should do a video about bbm closing down
You see, this is what I don't understand with people comparing BB devices to other slabs. All these "sooo good for the value" $299 slabs are just that, SLABS. They'll offer virtually the same experience as any other boring piece of glass.
Typing on glass will always feel stale. The BB keyboard experience is a unique one in this overcrowded and saturated market, filled with options that don't really do anything different from one another. Yawn.
Make more videos, not only for BB, travel can be
100% AGREE!!!
Jan Ole...Please make videos on BlackBerry Passport
You correct then this is still to expensive. Why Blackberry don't work on fold phones like Samsung will come with.
With your knowledge Jan do you think we will ever see Blackberry hardware in the future years ? Too many Blackberry diehards still here.
Blackberry Mobile is in trouble lol
And they're doing a really poor job with the software. They promised monthly updates and they're always months behind. The BlackBerry android software is laggy and a resource hog. It doesn't help that they put such low-end processors inside the devices. I'd wish for a top-spec BB but they would probably try to charge more than Apple. Fucking idiots, they are.
Great video as always, nothing to hate you for, you are just being honest as usual which is what most of us expect. BlackBerry is all about the keyboard so not making it touch sensitive is just kills this phone, I can see that they are trying to make a budget phone but this was just a bad move. Personally I would spend my money on the KeyOne rather than the LE.
Thank you so much! :) Really appreciate your comment!
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I'm confused here. Why would Blackberry actually release a "Cheaper" version of the Key2 which equals to a crappier version of the Key2 as well. The Key2 by all standards in 2018, was already a disappointment when compared to other Flagship devices in the same Price range. How I miss the the times when the Bold 9900 was released. That phone made a much bigger impression on the world than the Key2 or even yet, the Key2 LE...
Gonna stick to my iPhone X.
Gosh - I did not think of the businesses buying the phone - for cash really; for their employees. So that $400 or $450 USD price point might be a big deal; and "status quo Android users" .. well you won't miss what you never had .. and the regular one for folks who need that productivity. We also all know cellphone contracts contain $10-$25 of payment for the cellphone in it .. which if you crunch some number .. that $400-$500 figure is what that covers for $0 up front cost AND that allows retail pricing (ie profit) for the provider. Battery, I was thinking .. how much could it have cost .. $1 .. my suspicion is that with the lower processor they did not want the "LE" to have longer battery life than the regular KEY2 (figuring the boss will get the regular one, and staff the LE). Camera .. my KEYone is actually really nice .. but as someone said "in a vacuum" .. so I love the quality of the photos but if someone beside me has say a Samsung or Apple .. oh .. now mine are not nearly as nice often (if I use the aperture adjustment, it does help a lot). I wonder why InstaGram would have an issue .. I will have to look at your video on it (a lot of people do use the instagram stories so that should have been tested .. or repaired soon). Lastly the KEY2 price, I think they have a cushion in there .. cellphone companies want that profit .. so say an Apple $1000 has $300 for the cellphone company) .. KEYone I bet it was tight at $100 .. KEY2 they wanted to get that $250 to $300 profit in there so that the vendors will actually "try to sell" the phones .. right now it is a bit like pulling teeth as I'm sure the salespeople make more commission off other phones.
emerging markets using BBOS Bold phones can move to a cheaper KEY2 at a better price but yes Germany and the Rest of the world will stick with KEY2 vs KEY2 LE. Aso the BlackBerry Key2 and KEY2 LE have a harden kernel so with BlackBerry UEM it can lock down these KEY2 and KEY2 LE Android phones.
It was hard watching this video after he said that the champagne KEY2 LE was for the Arabs and stuff. That was soooo wrong to say on many levels! I don't think Jan Ole is a racist but that was an insensitive racial comment. The look on his face afterwards, he seemed to know that was the wrong thing to say. That should have been edited out.
Christopher Thomas he just meant that the gold colour is primarily oriented to the middle East markets and which is true I guess
@@Dr.Ijaz_ab Champagne is a color. People of many races might like that color. It isn't just a Arab or eastern color and to say it is a very racial thing to say. Now if BlackBerry is indeed marketing the champagne gold color just towards Arab and the eastern nations then BlackBerry is wrong too.
I did not mean to be racist in any way. I was just referring to some years ago, where BlackBerry f.e. released a gold q10 just for the middle eastern market. Also, gold items just seem to sell better in those markets.
He is German so being racist comes naturally to them.
Much ado about nothing He made an awkward choice of terms, realized it and corrected himself.
Nice work
John ole sir awesome video
Blackberry is joking with their pricing. Now I know that those keyboards , blackberry software and security updates surely do add value. However I'm not (surely alot of bb fans too) willing to pay for hardware that does not translate to on paper. Android is not iOS or BB10 , it is simply a monster that needs shit ton of power to keep itself running. Blackberry was not about raw power but consistent performance , so atleast put a SD 835.
RIP
BlackBerry is really dead???
Every year I hope the BlackBerry product lineup makes sense and is attractive again but I always end up disappointed. It seems that BlackBerry still can’t find its place in the market. it's a shame because they can’t keep living from focusing on such a small niche.
I think blackberry should go back to BB10, the big problem was just developer.
That's the thing. Wjen you don't have developers, people would be less likely to use your OS. And the other problem is Android and OIS. Android can deny their apps on BBOS so you're limited to the web browser and other basic apps. And with IOS, Apple built upan eco system that people don't want to leave. And the same could be said with Android. You may like an OS but there's no denying that it'll be hard using that OS if it isn't Android or IOS. Also, Blackberry was baught out by TCL so Blackberry just became a name instead of an independent company. So even if Blackberry wants to revive BBOS, chances are, they can't unless TCL gives the OS the green light.
Talks about the key2's price and how it's expensive but they took out the touch sensitivity of the keyboard on LE and makes a shit face and say that's sad.. Mate that cost a lot and they took it out to make the device cheap and available to a larger section who prefer anything below $500.
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I have the exact same thoughts on the LE and Key2. Both are overpriced and LE is just not worth it.
Blackberry as we know it is dead. It survives only with its last creatures with BB 10. Blackberry was mainly a software company which reached the top too late with its software BB 10. BB 10 is still usable and it will be in the future even though they will shut down BB store at the end of 2019 and you won't be able to use all the apps. I have a Passport SE and I am buying a Q 10 for practical reason. I want you guys do a practical task: Try and scan a more documents put them together in pdf and send them via mail for three times in a row. Do it with a passport, do it with whatever machine running android you choose, and do it with ios. that is the answer to all your questions. But of course phoines are no longer done for business purpose but for entertainment, tha's is why all the discussion about camera, apps and games. If you want to have a no thrill business machine, BB 10 is the way to go.
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