MTG Top 10: Lhurgoyfs | Magic: the Gathering
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Lhurgoyf is a creature type that is original to Magic: the Gathering. These strange looking monsters tend to feed off of the contents of the graveyard. In this video, we take a look at Magic's 10 Lhurgoyfs, and rank them based on how they've performed in competitive Magic.
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When I first got into the game, I thought Tarmogoyf was terrible. But now I wish Tarmogoyf was good again, since there are more creatures that do more and more things.
Tarmogoyf is actually very good right now again
It's not as busted as it was for awhile, but it's still very playable in Modern and Legacy.
@@NizzahonMagic Its really good in prowess right now and prowess is one of the best decks in the format right now. Also its really good in timeless too.
Tarmogoyf is one of those cards that is so efficient at what it does. It is already so roided with stats, it is hard to even truly powercreep as it is unlikely we will ever see a 2-drop with as many raw stats that is so easy to fuel. With so many decks relying on the graveyard for the decks to function, it will never be "bad." Just not always meta.
Creatures needed to get better because of prevalence of controlling strategies and the amount of cheap removal spells
Ach! Hans, run! is the new Nizzahon's top 10 video
What I never understood: Germans don't say Ach. I mean, there is the word but it is almost never used. Where did this come from?
"Ach" in german is used in the same way that "oh" is in english @@TheSteve_1992
GoyfGoyf: Power and toughness equal to the power and toughness of all Goyf cards in the graveyard added together.
Clause: "not named GoyfGoyf", otherwise you would infinitely add itself to the sum, making an undetermined, uncomputable amount
It leads to a circular definition, therefore infinite recursion -> "stack overflow"
While I get the AtogAtog reference, I feel like it should probably be "Goyfvore" as per the "-vore" cycle
LhurLhur: Power and toughness equal to the power and toughness of all Goyf cards NOT in the graveyard added together.
I think Nizzahon just likes to show off that he can pronounce Asmo's name lol
It is quite impressive!
IT IS... Tried It a few Times after i Saw the Video from rhystic studies
With practice anyone can pronounce Asmoranomardicadaistinaculdacar. Even spell it from memory!
Wow, for 29 years I thought the original Lhurgoyf art just had a really bizarre, long face. Never realized until you blew up the image that it’s eating poor Hans. I am an idiot.
That's Saffi. Hans got away.
@Milkybetrayal is it like draining her or something? Why does she look like that?
man, i am such a magic boomer, tarmogoyf being 9$ really put me off. That was once a 200$ cards lol
Admittedly I only remembered 3 goyfs. Btw, the timeframe where Tarmogoyf achieved success should be much longer than just 2007-2009.
On a side note, I like this new visual format of the videos.
I thought there were more because there were so many of them in Odyssey block... Should have counted them.
i think it might have been a typo and they meant 2019 and not 2009?
I was playing during Time Spiral block, and opened four Tarmogoyfs from Future Sight packs. So I never had to worry about that expense.
for me, alone the fact that they invented such creatures and named them Lhurgoyfs is just mind boggling
I remember back when Tarmogoyf was printed and thinking "wtf is this planeswalker card type?". Showing the people at Wizards already had things planned long in advance. Too far in advance you ask me, when working on too much can lead to things falling through the cracks like Oko.
Fun fact: Planeswalkers were planned to debut in Time Spiral block, but they didn't get the mechanic quite right until Lorwin. The original design was something similar to Sagas.
@@eduardobarros3986 That's a fun fact that's good to know!
What about altar of the goyf? Isn't that also a goyf by creature type?
Lhurgoyf is not its creature type, it’s not a creature. Lhurgoyf is its tribal type
Kindred lets non creature cards have creature types, so it technically does have the lhurgoyf creature type. However, nizza was probably looking at specifically creatures
What is the difference between kindred and tribal?@@jackvogel701
Wasn’t tarmagoyf’s time frame to Present rather than to 2009?
It should probably say 2019 for when it got power kept out of the game
He just forgot to update it from the #2 slot
2:00 tbh now this card makes me think about playing a enchantment sacrifice deck
Boy, I sure do wonder what the #1 card could possibly be. It's almost as predictable as me asking for "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
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Ohh those times.. I miss those times when I played my underdog UG deck and from nowhere I casted classic Lhurgoyf. The face of my oponents realizing that I was not just blocking/killing my low p/t creatures just to survive his attacks warms my nostalgic heart. Good memories 💙💚
That "Ach! Hans Run" flavor text on Lhurgoyf! Thats awesome!
Probably the most obvious number one in any Nizzahon video on this one
Nethergoyf is amazing, and will see crazy play.
Yo, calling it now. That points graph would be a hockey stick
"ACK! HANS! RUN! IT'S THE LHURGOYF!!!!"
It's always fun to hear about your adventures in land destruction. Also, lol, can't-ivore
While I don’t want to spoil too much, it does look like support for the Llurgoyf type will be in MH3 going by leaks
I know that Premodern technically isn't official, but Terravore is nonetheless incredibly good in that format.
Nizz reminding us again that he was that land destroyer back in the day.
I've played Magnivore in Modern R/B Land Destruction decks. Stone Rain, Molten Rain, and Pillage as well other nice sorceries like Thoughtseize, general burn spells and Angrath's Rampage among other things. It was fun before the advent of insane amounts of extremely efficient removal in Modern. Totally a meme deck that won with sometimes when an opponent simply had no resources nor significant board presence, and was a frankly unfun to play against in some cases.
Here's some matchup analyses to consider and also give you an idea of what timeframe I was playing this in.
**Burn** suffered heavily. The density of land destruction cards made their resources quickly dwindle by turn three. Creatures wouldn't stick around for very long. If I lived until turn three, which was reasonable, I pretty much had the game. I could get caught off guard on rare occasions though.
**Control** had a rough time. Be it Azorius, Jeskai, or Temur, I could still be a problem. It was the days of Path to Exile, and if the control player didn't have it or had it Thoughseized away, Magnivore could swing a few good times before they found another. Counter magic then wasn't what is today, but could still prove to be a probelm. Burn and Discard spells had to carry some extra weight in that match.
**Storm** was a pretty fast deck, but if could consistently keep the enabler off of the board I could manage. They don't run removal spells, so once Magnivore hit the field the clock was ticking. That matchup was still mostly a coin toss. If they stuck an enabler and went off on the same turn, I couldn't do anything.
**Infect** could be rough. I needed that early removal spell. No instants meant that the Infect player never got two-for-one'd by a removal spell since I had to play them on my turn and during my mainphases. I could get there, but I had to get lucky and didn't have many turns to do so.
**Tron** suffered. You know damn well why.
**Death's Shadow** was a weird matchup. We both suffered from the same problems and had very similar strategies. Clear a path for a big creature while denying opponent resources. It became even worse for me when it was Grixis and they had counter magic. However, depriving an opponent of their lands was pretty devastating. I think this matchup favors Grixis Death's Shadow decks, but is a coin toss against Rakdos versions.
**Humans** was a pretty bad matchup for me. I had Anger of the Gods in the sideboard, but that sometimes wasn't enough. They went wide and I would find I couldn't keep up with the creature density. Humans decks can function well on low land counts especially if I didn't have the Pillage or sideboard artifact hate for the Aether Vial which had often already cranked out one or two creatures. It was a bad matchup.
Lhurgoyf was the first foil card i ever got in magic and it was one of my favorite cards.
Wonder how those Tarmo tokens - _with mana cost_ - are going to work out.
Detritivore probably has some interesting synergy with the Doctor Who stuff.
Didn't even know Cantivore existed in Odyssey
Tarmo had almost nothing to work with when it came out compared to today. And time only makes it stronger.
What dies grows the Tarmogoyf.
I'm finally getting to build my Lhurgoyf Tribal
So in Modern Horizons 3 there will be cards that make Tarmogoyf tokens
It’s like Atog but slightly different. I like it
Nethergoyf seems like it's being pulled in two different directions, it seems like it wants to be in a turbo self mill deck, but there are better things you can do for 3 mana than bring it back. At the same time, if you are trying to use it as a resilient threat in a midrange deck you are gatekept by whatever the least frequent cardtype in your deck. Honestly the most interesting part of the card is that you can exile any number of cards from your graveyard when you escape it. Maybe it can help make inverter a playable deck in modern?
i don’t think you bother building around it, it’s more than appealing enough as a recursive 1 drop that’ll usually be a 3/4 or so just by playing the game as normal
Urbog Llurgoyf is The Rural Juror's favorite card.
I like that you said Asmo's full name so easily. I hope it was just because you are so eloquent rather than you practiced that line in the script thirty times.
absolutely no mercy for Cantivore 💀
Terravore is one of the best creatures in Premodern, but not a single word about it.
Nope. I can't talk about every format, so I restrict myself to the sanctioned ones.
How many points does Altar of the Goyf have?
What about altar of the gyof?
omg my favorite tribe
So you said there are only 10 Lhurgoyf,s in magic prior to the mg3 but there are actually 11 since technically speaking altar of the Lhurgoyf is as the name implies a Lhurgoyf card
I'm going to guess that Tarmogoyf goes pretty high in this list
Is this the biggest gap between card 1 and 2 in a list?
I think you forgot the timeframe on Tarmogoyf
I suspect Nethergoyf is just going to be in the same decks as Tarmogoyf. What's wrong with having more "Tarmogofy"?
Biggest ever point difference between #1 and #2 in one of these Top 10s?🤔
Almost definitely. Haha.
The oracle text for Tarmogoyf hasn't been updated for Battles yet, so clearly it hasn't gotten stronger.
A distinct card type is still a distinct card type, whether it appears on reminder text from 2007 or not.
@@davidlundquist1979 I said oracle not card text :p
Reminder text is not rules text
@@jonothanthrace1530 Yes, I can read. You don't seem to have comprehended that I'm saying you're wrong. Nothing in Tarmogoyf's actual rules text would keep it from recognizing battles as a card type.
@@davidlundquist1979 What I'm saying is that Wizards needs to push the Battle update to Gatherer.
There are Lhurgoyfs in total, not sure wether that warrants a list
What's going to be number 1? I sure wonder.......
Times change. New cards are released, but in the end, Tarmogoyf will always be king.
Ok, so easy number 1 of the Tarmogoyf as my guess, so let's make it hard and guess the number two as well, Urborg Lhurgoyf?
Edit:
Nope, not even close :D
Nethergoyf will never in a million years catch Tarma.
You forgot to say "However Tarmogoyf hasn't gained any points since 2009."
He actually said it's still gaining points to this day, so I suspect the window of activity shown in the video might be an error.
it has. he just didnt edit that section of the video from 2009 to present. if you notice its the dates from the previous slide
Top 10 Lhurgoyfs. There's only 10, LOL.
top 10 most obvious top 1s
Has there been a more unbalanced top 10?