This tripped me off so bad, I fucking hate this kind of bullshit :DDD Like seriously, on his on DVD he leaves an entire arpeggio out and here he plays... one more? A phantom arpeggio that doesn't even exist in the song? C'mon, have some quality control for godsakes! :D I love Jeff for everything he does but these instructional videos are very dangerous - they may be just downright wrong, and you won't question authority since it's the dude who wrote it and played a 1000 times live. But still, you gotta be on your toes all the time :D
It's the way it was edited for sure. The chord clips are on time with the audio, and even the the arpeggios AFTER the cut. At second 35 he starts the riff and the audio doesn't begin till the 36th second. Once the audio catches up to the video its on time until the next cut. You can't notice it as much because Jeff doesn't start playing right at the cut.
Is this schecter the hellraiser? i thinks its is but the body is completely black,in the site the model has some bright tape around the body,is that an older version of hellraiser?
can anybody tell me what does jeff play on first few arppegios, the 3-string arppegio part... i've looked it up and found 5 different versions and dont know wich one to trust... and yeah, i cant really catch that part on video when jeff plays it slow...
lol Jeff even explains in a bunch of videos it's hard for him to play what he plays slow....but since this was done he has improved a great deal in accuracy in playing slow and demonstrating. He still is a guitar god regardless.
Oh! I forgot to mention that I recently bought his signature Shecter guitar because It's the perfect 7-sting guitar that exists for the price! Jeff Loomis FUCKING RULES!!!
jeff is so interesting, he practiced for 9-10 hours a day in his room for like 5 years and by the time he was 16 he was doing solos almost as good as he does em now
Thanks for your understating and tender attitude. Yeah, it indeed would be. Chris is really an underrated guitarist. Despite the fact, he's in Megadeth, I think he's sort of unappreciated. If I would have a guy, like Broderick in my band, I would give him an endless freedom of creating, instantly. Solo album would be off the charts! I would acquire that for sure. Cheers, dude \m/
He's arpegio tecnique changes a lot when he does the slow version, he plays each note in the same picking direction but in independent strokes not in a unique motion as opposite as when played in the actual tempo
It's A# Eb Ab C# F# A# Eb He's playing a 7 string. That might have confused some people when the were trying to mock him and couldn't figure out why his guitar sound so low...
Oh you guys are talking about the SLOW version - irrelevant if you ask me. Its all about the muscle memory, slowing things down messes stuff up for most musicians, especially when theyve trained themselves to do things without thinking. The only reason Jeff has done it slow is cause SOME people cant work this stuff out by ear so they have to watch his hands.
@Symphonication They're all really good at different things (Paul for string skipping, Jeff for sweeping, Vai for facial expressions). There's no overall "best". Although for pure technique I'd maybe give it to Petrucci. Buckethead is the wrong answer in any case.
@AgnonOfMetal yap I knew that it was a teqhnique in 17th century, but i meant like you know , like petrucci and Romeo do their stuff, they use sweap picking often. And I thought that loomis had taken guitar lessons, 'cause he's so awesome, but that prove that he's completely selflearnt. And that's awesome too.
Actually, I already saw it and as the matter of fact, I looked up for the tabs and I'm trying to learn it. I just got the intro right, the further parts' left hand work is a damn killer. I think it just has to develop 'cause I started playing classical guitar, like 4-5 months ago. And yeah, it indeed sounds marvelously.
@EBBadd1 the guitartaalk part wasnt dedicated to me i think. that murphy guy is damn good, he reminds me alot of petrucci. schecter and carvin have probably the best value for price, along with charvel and ltd (i hate ltd and ESP, but you get quite a lot for your bucks.)
sweep picking doesnt take long to get down. ive been playing for 5 years now and ive only been practicing sweep picking for about 2 months and im decent at it.
Cheers! Look up 'Downward Fall' for a 'taste' of what his solo stuff might sound like. He wrote it for Jag Panzer, and it's probably the only known example of a complete song written by him (other than the ancient Industrial Eden tracks, which sound kinda messy, although the shredding is solid)
saying a guitar strings notes backwards doesn't mean he doesn't know music, he just doesn't play guitar, how should anyone know that you go from top to bottom on a guitar if they have never played? I play guitar but idk what order to name the notes on a piano in :-P
ever heard of a practice amp buddy? It's Jeff Loomis, he can't afford to take his stage gear into the Guitar World studio. Not everyone is like yngwie and has a stack everywhere they go. AND if by "upper notes" you mean the higher pitched notes aren't coming out well I can hear them perfectly, it's just the amp that makes them sound dirty. On his live and studio rig he uses a tight gain and that helps the "upper" notes come out but I wouldn't say he's playing sloppily.
no...it's because he's doing it slow... it's almost 10x harder to make slow sweeps clean.... he was just showing you the notes he played... if you think about it, it'd be impossible to down pick all those notes not sweeping that fast...
Yeah, I agree. Jeff may be a better musician, but Chris has an upper hand when it comes to technical abilities, for sure. Testosterone just hit my cells at that time and I got kinda nervous, so sorry for that.
Ignore the last comment, it was my brother on my account. I agree with you that STH's solo is better than FFWF, but that's because you're comparing arguably one of the best solos ever written to a moderate solo. Any real musician knows speed is not as important as soul. I recommend you listen to Jeff Loomis' Miles of Machines, if you haven't already. The structure and feeling in that song is incredible.
No need to apologize man, you're entitled to your opinion and Chris is the better guitarist in the technical sense. I can't wait for Chris to do solo work or a collab with Jeff; it'd be fan-fucking-tastic!
@ThePurplekush666 that's a good outlook but a certain guitarist can be better than another on a certain style say there was some kid who only played metal another player could also play metal and blues which makes him more well rounded but not exactly better
I'm the biggest Broderick nuthugger around, but you can't deny that while Chris has the technical edge, Jeff has written far more memorable compositions. Not saying that Chris sucks at writing, but he needs to be in a band where he is the primary songwriter before any of us can truly judge his composing skills. Until then, Chris will never be 'way' better, as writing is just as important as playing, and he hasn't written much.
well, it can happen that after you learn to play something fast, then in some cases you are unable of playing it correctly at a slow pace, cause your mind has been adapted to the fast one...
Haha. Like "Hey jeff! Check it out! I can finally do my sweeps at 150 BPM!" Jeff- "Ahhh. That's cool bro. Check mine at 7 billion BPM!" "Okay. I'm going to go smash my guitar and cry myself to sleep now. Bye Jeff!"
@mikepshena I know a lot about music theory, trust me And yes, I was basing whos faster, lol Playing a lot of different styles is easy and I bet Rusty could play a lot of different styles too He has studied music theory and with these skills and with the knowledge Rusty he has, hes able to play a lot more than he is doing
He obviously thought that the "Fast" version was slow already... so he was hella confused when they asked him to go any slower... how can you slow down his awesome sweeps really...
@justin2354 Because that when you sweep slowly, every note must be perfect. But when you sweep fast you can "disguise" a lot of mistakes, especially if you have a lot of distortion. Before you say it, I'm a guitarplayer, so i actually know what I'm talking about. The 10 x was apperantly just an estimation/ exaggeration to illustrate how much harder a slow sweep is, it seems like no one else took it literally and you shouldn't have either.
Guitar One or Guitar World or who ever puts out this video needs to learn that an instructional video used to demonstrate to musicians how a certain piece is played shouldn't have cuts that start the video first and allow the audio to catch up. Yeah it's a cool cut in some places, but don't put it where it doesn't belong. Most notably the cut at 0:34
man i'd hate to play in a band with loomis, like sure it sounds awesome bu thtink about it no matter how awesome of a solo you wrote jeff would always be able to say "ya thats a cool solo, but I wrote this one in half the time, oh and its twice as good"
So this is really weird....I purchased a schecter hellraiser 7 string from guitar center near where I live and it was really dirty n what not. I cleaned it up and got it to be amazingly playable. The hellraiser 7 string is exactly this one that he plays in this video. At least now I know for sure that the seven string i have is well worth the 500 dollars used lol
@tumbee111 Seriously bro. We all have our own way of doing things. Just because he doesn't sweep the conventional way doesn't make it wrong. And sweeping isn't progressive metal. It's a classical lute technique used in the 17the century.
This guy is Jeff Loomis, the only one who ever made Chris Broderick play Rhythm for him
lol, you're right
holy shit
And now Michael Amott has made Loomis into his rhythm player 🤣
@@ben14326 but ammot is shit compared to loomis technically
@@Guitareye90 I know, that's why It's funny, he also won't let Loomis write anything which sucks.
Lol I love how he adds an extra sweep in whilst playing it slow.
I don’t fuck makes it so much harder to figure his shit out when he’ll add extra parts that won’t fit on the original tempo or leave some stuff out.
This tripped me off so bad, I fucking hate this kind of bullshit :DDD Like seriously, on his on DVD he leaves an entire arpeggio out and here he plays... one more? A phantom arpeggio that doesn't even exist in the song? C'mon, have some quality control for godsakes! :D
I love Jeff for everything he does but these instructional videos are very dangerous - they may be just downright wrong, and you won't question authority since it's the dude who wrote it and played a 1000 times live. But still, you gotta be on your toes all the time :D
damn you must be damn good if someone makes a whole video to point out a mistake. Good job Jeff Loomis. You do remember he is human right?
Jeff is such an awesome sweep picker-sooooo clean.
It's the way it was edited for sure. The chord clips are on time with the audio, and even the the arpeggios AFTER the cut. At second 35 he starts the riff and the audio doesn't begin till the 36th second. Once the audio catches up to the video its on time until the next cut. You can't notice it as much because Jeff doesn't start playing right at the cut.
This is the best intro to any song I can think of
Is this schecter the hellraiser?
i thinks its is but the body is completely black,in the site the model has some bright tape around the body,is that an older version of hellraiser?
@Lymesloop Ledsen, trodde du var nån slags utlänning :). Förresten, var är du från?
can anybody tell me what does jeff play on first few arppegios, the 3-string arppegio part... i've looked it up and found 5 different versions and dont know wich one to trust...
and yeah, i cant really catch that part on video when jeff plays it slow...
lol Jeff even explains in a bunch of videos it's hard for him to play what he plays slow....but since this was done he has improved a great deal in accuracy in playing slow and demonstrating. He still is a guitar god regardless.
Oh! I forgot to mention that I recently bought his signature Shecter guitar because It's the perfect 7-sting guitar that exists for the price! Jeff Loomis FUCKING RULES!!!
Fuck Yeah! He´s having a guitar clinic here in gothenburg tomorrow!!! I finally get to meet and see my hero play!!! So fucking awesome!!!
jeff is so interesting, he practiced for 9-10 hours a day in his room for like 5 years and by the time he was 16 he was doing solos almost as good as he does em now
WOW! That sweep literally melted my face!
Very good technique of playing instruments 👏👏👏
His sweeping is sick as hell
i don't know anyone who can do it better
@MrFreddiebrandt I'm guessing a Schecter C-7 Hellraiser.
Thanks for your understating and tender attitude. Yeah, it indeed would be. Chris is really an underrated guitarist. Despite the fact, he's in Megadeth, I think he's sort of unappreciated. If I would have a guy, like Broderick in my band, I would give him an endless freedom of creating, instantly. Solo album would be off the charts! I would acquire that for sure. Cheers, dude \m/
@roas2 change your amp settings if you are getting feedback when the strings are muted, if your pickups are active lower the gain abit :P
where can I find the complete video? can't find it through google :(
this guy is freaking amazing!!!!
@Lymesloop Alldeles i södra dalarna, Hedemora. Hört talas om et'?
i see him in a clinic in lille , i see him too , and meet him he's a god and a good guy ! awesome
@Munmo I fucking woke my family up chuckling.
What's funny about this is the fact that Loomis has gotten better since this lol.
He's arpegio tecnique changes a lot when he does the slow version, he plays each note in the same picking direction but in independent strokes not in a unique motion as opposite as when played in the actual tempo
what is the correct tunning is it C or drop
D?
It's
A#
Eb
Ab
C#
F#
A#
Eb
He's playing a 7 string. That might have confused some people when the were trying to mock him and couldn't figure out why his guitar sound so low...
clean sound s good anyone knowing what amp he uses?
jeff loomis can do no wrong, i got vip tickets to meet him tomorrow!!!!!! (lump grows in front of pants)
Oh you guys are talking about the SLOW version - irrelevant if you ask me. Its all about the muscle memory, slowing things down messes stuff up for most musicians, especially when theyve trained themselves to do things without thinking.
The only reason Jeff has done it slow is cause SOME people cant work this stuff out by ear so they have to watch his hands.
I totally understand you. Same thing is with me, but I'm still struggling .But you have too agree that rhythm is sometimes even cooler than lead.
Narr def nice dream. Open up a new tab on browser and in youtube and listen to them both one after another
all ive done this weekend was play guitar cause i had no plans, but i was miserable regardless of how much i love guitar, people get lonley.
cleanest sweeping ever?
what guitar is he using in this vid
@Symphonication
They're all really good at different things (Paul for string skipping, Jeff for sweeping, Vai for facial expressions). There's no overall "best". Although for pure technique I'd maybe give it to Petrucci.
Buckethead is the wrong answer in any case.
nah buckethead is insanely creative
@espltd12 the 3rd major one is a 6 string sweep
Anybody have the tabs for the arpeggios?
Dude, mesa boogie dual rectifier!?
Jeff Loomis is such a fantastic guitar player.
@Abyssvx ..whats wrong with trivium??
I think what the guy meant was he did it slightly differently slow to what he did fast.
is that the blackjack model or the hellraiser?
@AgnonOfMetal yap I knew that it was a teqhnique in 17th century, but i meant like you know , like petrucci and Romeo do their stuff, they use sweap picking often. And I thought that loomis had taken guitar lessons, 'cause he's so awesome, but that prove that he's completely selflearnt. And that's awesome too.
Does anybody know the tuning?
mates i can't see somewere the title "Betcha can't play this"(i still can't play it)...
im pretty sure its not the maker of the video, but the way it was uploaded to u tube the whole video is like a second off
Actually, I already saw it and as the matter of fact, I looked up for the tabs and I'm trying to learn it. I just got the intro right, the further parts' left hand work is a damn killer. I think it just has to develop 'cause I started playing classical guitar, like 4-5 months ago. And yeah, it indeed sounds marvelously.
@EBBadd1 the guitartaalk part wasnt dedicated to me i think. that murphy guy is damn good, he reminds me alot of petrucci. schecter and carvin have probably the best value for price, along with charvel and ltd (i hate ltd and ESP, but you get quite a lot for your bucks.)
@Lymesloop He's from sweden, "varulv" means werewolf.
sweep picking doesnt take long to get down. ive been playing for 5 years now and ive only been practicing sweep picking for about 2 months and im decent at it.
Cheers! Look up 'Downward Fall' for a 'taste' of what his solo stuff might sound like.
He wrote it for Jag Panzer, and it's probably the only known example of a complete song written by him (other than the ancient Industrial Eden tracks, which sound kinda messy, although the shredding is solid)
saying a guitar strings notes backwards doesn't mean he doesn't know music, he just doesn't play guitar, how should anyone know that you go from top to bottom on a guitar if they have never played? I play guitar but idk what order to name the notes on a piano in :-P
@nneevveerrmmoorree He only said that the cleanest sweep picker ever was Jason Becker, which I think it's true. But Loomis plays very clean too.
Jeff Loomis, Chris Broderick, Joe Satriani, John Petrucci, Paul Gilbert, Steve Vai. Who's the best?
Who care IF he was wrong,he still amazing guitar player!
Holy christ! @_@ I didn't even notice those taps! O_o
Dude, its the video. his hands moved really fast at the point when he was hardly playing anything
Chris and Jeff are both godly. The end.
ever heard of a practice amp buddy? It's Jeff Loomis, he can't afford to take his stage gear into the Guitar World studio. Not everyone is like yngwie and has a stack everywhere they go. AND if by "upper notes" you mean the higher pitched notes aren't coming out well I can hear them perfectly, it's just the amp that makes them sound dirty. On his live and studio rig he uses a tight gain and that helps the "upper" notes come out but I wouldn't say he's playing sloppily.
no...it's because he's doing it slow... it's almost 10x harder to make slow sweeps clean.... he was just showing you the notes he played... if you think about it, it'd be impossible to down pick all those notes not sweeping that fast...
Yeah, I agree. Jeff may be a better musician, but Chris has an upper hand when it comes to technical abilities, for sure. Testosterone just hit my cells at that time and I got kinda nervous, so sorry for that.
which guitar is that?
I saw 1 or 2 mistakes. Unbelievable but it shows, that he is a human, too :D
how can it be wrong? its his song. whichever way he plays it is right
He said it in an interview somwhere.
i know and you too that it was almost randomly written cuz the intention was just to have a fast solo but that dosen't make it a good compostion
@chewychewy1213 Schecter is actually pretty decent, especially in the higher price range. His signature is awesome, perfect in every way
makes me just wanta park my guitar for good! complete badassness.
Ignore the last comment, it was my brother on my account. I agree with you that STH's solo is better than FFWF, but that's because you're comparing arguably one of the best solos ever written to a moderate solo. Any real musician knows speed is not as important as soul. I recommend you listen to Jeff Loomis' Miles of Machines, if you haven't already. The structure and feeling in that song is incredible.
he's like: "How dare you make me slow my awsomeness down so people can comprehend it?"
No need to apologize man, you're entitled to your opinion and Chris is the better guitarist in the technical sense.
I can't wait for Chris to do solo work or a collab with Jeff; it'd be fan-fucking-tastic!
2+2=5?
It's probably because they never play that song live so I doubt he has much practice doing it.
which dvd is this?
@ThePurplekush666 that's a good outlook but a certain guitarist can be better than another on a certain style say there was some kid who only played metal another player could also play metal and blues which makes him more well rounded but not exactly better
I'm the biggest Broderick nuthugger around, but you can't deny that while Chris has the technical edge, Jeff has written far more memorable compositions.
Not saying that Chris sucks at writing, but he needs to be in a band where he is the primary songwriter before any of us can truly judge his composing skills. Until then, Chris will never be 'way' better, as writing is just as important as playing, and he hasn't written much.
1:20 sounds straight out of diablo
my thoughts exactly :)
FUCK ME! thats is the most insane thing ever! And so clean.
well, it can happen that after you learn to play something fast, then in some cases you are unable of playing it correctly at a slow pace, cause your mind has been adapted to the fast one...
Haha. Like "Hey jeff! Check it out! I can finally do my sweeps at 150 BPM!"
Jeff- "Ahhh. That's cool bro. Check mine at 7 billion BPM!"
"Okay. I'm going to go smash my guitar and cry myself to sleep now. Bye Jeff!"
@mikepshena I know a lot about music theory, trust me
And yes, I was basing whos faster, lol
Playing a lot of different styles is easy and I bet Rusty could play a lot of different styles too
He has studied music theory and with these skills and with the knowledge Rusty he has, hes able to play a lot more than he is doing
why? whats wrong with a schecter?
His tone is so good. :(
He obviously thought that the "Fast" version was slow already... so he was hella confused when they asked him to go any slower... how can you slow down his awesome sweeps really...
@justin2354 Because that when you sweep slowly, every note must be perfect. But when you sweep fast you can "disguise" a lot of mistakes, especially if you have a lot of distortion. Before you say it, I'm a guitarplayer, so i actually know what I'm talking about. The 10 x was apperantly just an estimation/ exaggeration to illustrate how much harder a slow sweep is, it seems like no one else took it literally and you shouldn't have either.
the best sweeper, no doubt
I love that rythm part!
@PreedyM2k nah, not as awesome as jason. but if jason is odin, petrucci is thor, and loomis is loki.
Guitar One or Guitar World or who ever puts out this video needs to learn that an instructional video used to demonstrate to musicians how a certain piece is played shouldn't have cuts that start the video first and allow the audio to catch up. Yeah it's a cool cut in some places, but don't put it where it doesn't belong. Most notably the cut at 0:34
Well a "C" is a "C" and a "Dd" is a "Dd" no matter what instrument u play, thats how I meant it, not the order itself
He'd be like "Hey bro, ima let you finish, but my solo is best of the year."
the master at work
man i'd hate to play in a band with loomis, like sure it sounds awesome bu thtink about it no matter how awesome of a solo you wrote jeff would always be able to say "ya thats a cool solo, but I wrote this one in half the time, oh and its twice as good"
@soadilias its a c7 i think
Can't See The Tapping At Regular Speed...
Hail Jeff \m/ \m/
So this is really weird....I purchased a schecter hellraiser 7 string from guitar center near where I live and it was really dirty n what not. I cleaned it up and got it to be amazingly playable. The hellraiser 7 string is exactly this one that he plays in this video. At least now I know for sure that the seven string i have is well worth the 500 dollars used lol
Hands down to you my friend
@tumbee111 Seriously bro. We all have our own way of doing things. Just because he doesn't sweep the conventional way doesn't make it wrong. And sweeping isn't progressive metal. It's a classical lute technique used in the 17the century.