@@inconsistentbubbles7632 They took the stats from the Negro League and added them to MLB's record books. This retroactively makes the Negro League a part of MLB.
I'll never forget the time I got in trouble at school for using the term "negro league" when answering a question in class, Our public school teachers are disturbingly uneducated
Malcom X once stated: "We need more light about each other. Light creates understanding, understanding creates love, love creates patience, and patience creates unity"
You do realize he preached for separation of the races? Its nearly impossible to find these days thanks to Google's whitewashing but he was a vehement racist.
@@gemineyeduality764 he stated he loved when he went to Meka that nobody cared about the race and there were people from all over the world there all worshiping Allah. Dont see how he can be racist while stating things like this,
Unless the MLB integrated into the Negro League. Quite hard for a National Sport to have 2 separate leagues. Unless they changed the system into a promotion/relegated one like in Europe. Edit: If follow Europe, then people might complain why the Negro League is under the MLB. So more issues will arise
I lived in Kansas City in the 1970s. I was privileged to know Satchell Paige. He was a friend of one of my neighbours. We used to sit on the neighbour's porch drinking sweet tea. He was an interesting character.
I think you missed something, that Robinson played in Montréal for a bit where he was warmly welcome. His wife said her time in Montréal was almost paradise like. I think it's important to show how racist was the US even for it's time.
@@MrTaxiRob Honestly? I can't imagine non-holodeck bats surviving a Vulcan's proper swing. Though they probably do have a certain amount of strength control.
Excellent video, though 238 "pitches" should be 238 home runs for Gibson. Would also have been fun to talk about Paige's massive repertoire of pitches, and Gibson's supposed feat of hitting a ball out of Yankee Stadium (while likely not true, serves as a testament to the kind of power he had).
I think we only half-remember how nuts Jackie Robinson was as an athlete. He was an All American at UCLA in football, basketball, and track. Statistically, baseball was his worst sport in college and he has one of the highest WAR to this day. I think you can reasonably claim that he is not only one of baseball's all time top 50, but also one of the greatest athletes who ever lived
Despite some controversial takes in the past, EC has consistently made educating and interesting videos such as this. The few bad just has to be taken with the many, many good.
1% chance they found some kind of legitimate issue with the video, 99% chance they're really really butthurt about a spotlight being shone on how obscenely fucking racist the US has been for virtually its entire history.
I read when Jackie Robinson played for the Montreal Royals he didn’t get anywhere near the gate he got in the south. I also heard he had fond memories of the city.
As someone from Kansas City, I thank you for bringing some spotlight to the Negro League, and recommend everyone to visite theNegro League Museum in KC.
My grandfather was a friend of Branch Rickey because he had nursed Rickey through the flu on the troopship after WWI. Granddad was one of the people RIckey consulted when he was thinking about hiring Robinson.
I have to admit, I have a deep love for baseball, but I do also prefer when it’s the minors, because that’s where you see the way they are and how good they will be, and though Jackie Robinson was an unknown he remains to this day as one of the 10 greatest baseball players
Enjoyed the video but you left out one key individual in the integration of baseball. The Major League’s Second Commissioner, A.B. “Happy”Chandler. He became Commissioner after Kennesaw Mountain Landis’s death in 1945. It was under Chandler’s leadership, which was only for one term by the way, which allowed Branch Rickey to sign Jackie Robinson to the Dodgers. Chandler’s efforts to integrate baseball eventually earned him a place in the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY. Please do what you can to correct this oversight.
Thank you so much for this video, especially beginning with some of my hometown's own history in this subject. Just a heads up, after 1911, Pittsburgh PA was officially spelled with an H at the end. It's actually an interesting story on its own. For two decades, the city government refused to acknowledge the federal government's respelling of the city name.
@@Easy-Eight last time I checked, history and sociology were also important parts of a well-rounded education. Because let's be fucking real, what the right calls "critical race theory" (which isn't actually what that term refers to, to be clear) is anything that doesn't paint America as a magical place where racism never existed.
Nothing about Jackie Robinson's 1946 season in Montreal, the Canadian city that was an oasis for Robinson where he was the summer hero in a year when the pressure on the road nearly drove him into a nervous breakdown?
John McGraw, Hall of Fame manager for first the Orioles and then the Giants hated the segregation of baseball. In 1901, while managing the Orioles, he tried to sneak a black player named Grant onto his roster by claiming that he was a Native American. The owner of the White Sox recognized Grant and called McGraw out. McGraw managed the New York Giants for 30 years and retired in 1932, 14 years before MLB was finally integrated. After he passed, his widow found papers with scouting reports and “wishlists” of Negro League players McGraw wanted to sign to his team.
According to the Canadian Encyclopedia website, Jackie Robinson played only a month in Florida and it was a nightmare. Then, he played a year for the Royals in Montreal where he was loved. The Royals won the series that year and Jackie may have been the best player. I am not sure why you did not mention the contrast between Florida and Montreal.
At 4:27 the video states “Josh Gibson officially hit 238 pitches”, which doesn’t really make sense. Did you mean to say “Home Runs” instead of pitches?
Jackie will past away in 1972 and still today all teams and he played for the Padres and the Dodgers but we still know him as the greatest player in the mlb who broke the barrier
Please talk about Louis Francis Sockalexis the Native American baseball player from Cleveland, he was in the major leagues before even Jackie Robinson . He is why the Cleveland Indians name exists
@Extra Credits 0:31 The Grey's tying run is coming to bat in that situation, not the winning run. Other than that, the video is an informative one about the history of black baseball.
And now for the 2024 season, the MLB made a big thing about how cool it was that they finally integrated baseball statistics by merging the negro league’s statistics into their own historical stats. It’s pretty shameful that it took this long imo
I love the fact that they backported the Negro League's stats. It's a very public way of admitting you were wrong to exclude them.
Yeah. Very honest and good way of showing “Yeah we were wrong. Those guys are good.”
fact
What is backporting?
@@inconsistentbubbles7632 They took the stats from the Negro League and added them to MLB's record books. This retroactively makes the Negro League a part of MLB.
@@paulbutkovich6103 thank you :)
I'll never forget the time I got in trouble at school for using the term "negro league" when answering a question in class, Our public school teachers are disturbingly uneducated
disturbingly, but also purposefully. the USA makes good education highly inaccessible for a reason
That’s terrible.
@@kettleworks good education is rare as all good things
@@paweandonisgawralidisdobrz2522 Except in Finland.
@ Maailman onnellisin kansa!
Seeing the unanimated version of this human at the end made me feel weird.
I like how he repeated the coffee addiction trope of the latest Extra Mythology video 😁
@@EduardoEscarez i mean they're the same guys so of course they have the same coffee addiction
Surprised that extra history has yet to talk about the Tuskeegee Airmen
They don’t like to do things after WW2 unless sponsored
@@njvikesfan0162 weren't they with WWII just most of the tragedy is after
@@larrychilders6599 Yeah there’s that. Who knows. I’m 90% sure most of if not all their ww2 stuff is sponsored tho
@@njvikesfan0162They will need to break that rule. Ignoring modern history is a bad decission.
Modern history is so important but also so well already documented that either decision is a good one
Malcom X once stated:
"We need more light about each other. Light creates understanding, understanding creates love, love creates patience, and patience creates unity"
You do realize he preached for separation of the races? Its nearly impossible to find these days thanks to Google's whitewashing but he was a vehement racist.
@@gemineyeduality764 he stated he loved when he went to Meka that nobody cared about the race and there were people from all over the world there all worshiping Allah. Dont see how he can be racist while stating things like this,
Every time I think of this channel. There’s a new video. I don’t hate that fact
think more
@@tomendruweit9386 seconded
Chadwick Boseman’s performance as Jackie Robinson was unforgettable.
Probably a minority opinion, but I think I'll remember him more for _that_ role than any other.
R.I.P
It’s sad that integration into the MLB in turn destroyed the Negro League.
Sad and ironic
Unless the MLB integrated into the Negro League.
Quite hard for a National Sport to have 2 separate leagues. Unless they changed the system into a promotion/relegated one like in Europe.
Edit: If follow Europe, then people might complain why the Negro League is under the MLB. So more issues will arise
But as Buck o Neil said “but who cared?”
I wish they combined the league instead of just integrating the league
0:02 As a Pittsburgh native, I am extremely triggered by the lack of H at the end of the word
Can confirm
Pronounced "Pittsburruh"
I lived in Kansas City in the 1970s. I was privileged to know Satchell Paige. He was a friend of one of my neighbours. We used to sit on the neighbour's porch drinking sweet tea. He was an interesting character.
Baseball is about as interesting as watching paint dry but I find the historical aspect of integration to be fascinating.
I'm sorry you don't meet the Prerequisite for the "Thinking Man's Game" feat of INT 13.
I feel like baseball isn’t interesting until you have learned a bunch already.
@@matthewcox4997 that rule can probably apply to a lot of things (though personally I’m not sure if Baseball’s one of them).
@@OGNoNameNobody - lolwhat? Is Baseball Elitism really a thing? 🤣 I'm sure we're all in awe of your 10,000+ IQ.
Someone agrees with me
It really is a testament to EH that they can get me interested in the history of a sport I have never, in my life, watched before 😊
I think you missed something, that Robinson played in Montréal for a bit where he was warmly welcome. His wife said her time in Montréal was almost paradise like. I think it's important to show how racist was the US even for it's time.
"Warmly welcomed" us a stretch. Canada is just as racist as amerikkka. Just ask the indigenous ppl of Canada about that.
You know nothing then. @@scj3188
Damn, the Deep Space 9 baseball against vulcans episode was way more meaningful than I thought
seems like Vulcans would excel at baseball
@@MrTaxiRob Honestly? I can't imagine non-holodeck bats surviving a Vulcan's proper swing. Though they probably do have a certain amount of strength control.
Jackie Robinson spent more time with the Montreal royals than in florida before moving up to the mlb
Was thinking "Ah yes, yet another America-is-more-important-than-other-countries so screw them."
I wasn’t expecting a video today (extra history is usually a different day) but I’m not complaining.
Man these videos are great.
I like the new art style. (Well, I say new, it has been like this for a little while).
Isn't this the art style for extra scifi?
I personally like the artstyle of series like the 3rd century crisis
@@spritemon98 I think so.
@@jamier65551 Me too, but I also like this one.
The CGI human and cat near the end were completely unrealistic, though.
Them choosing Jackie Robinson kind of reminds me of how Captain America was picked out. It’s about your character, you have to be the better person.
interesting, considering Falcon and Wimter Soldier
Those guys were all good people. Jackie was just the most likely to bite his tongue.
This could be the beginning of a new series here: Extra Sports. Hit me up, I’d be cool with that.
Would actually love that, sports history videos would REALLY benefit from the drawings in this chibi style.
Thank you for putting this so well. I love when attention is brought to the negro leagues and how truly important it was
I love the new art style at the end, so realistic
Excellent video, though 238 "pitches" should be 238 home runs for Gibson. Would also have been fun to talk about Paige's massive repertoire of pitches, and Gibson's supposed feat of hitting a ball out of Yankee Stadium (while likely not true, serves as a testament to the kind of power he had).
I think we only half-remember how nuts Jackie Robinson was as an athlete. He was an All American at UCLA in football, basketball, and track. Statistically, baseball was his worst sport in college and he has one of the highest WAR to this day. I think you can reasonably claim that he is not only one of baseball's all time top 50, but also one of the greatest athletes who ever lived
Despite some controversial takes in the past, EC has consistently made educating and interesting videos such as this. The few bad just has to be taken with the many, many good.
What controversial takes
dont remember any controversial takes
@@roquejo6194 *are fantasy evil races racists?
@@yuvalgabay1023 ohhhhh, never knew that was controversial
@@roquejo6194 It's mostly controversial to people who don't like to critically analyze fiction for real life biases.
Please make a video on the residential schools in Canada and the US.
I agree
especially given recent events in Kamloops
Also maybe the lost generation in australia
Something fucked up is that the last residential school didn't close until 1996.
The only time the kkk as cartoon people looked adorable and harmless.
I know. Even Attila the hun looked sweet and innocent😆
My father played for the negro leagues (Philadelphia Stars) thank you for covering it. It doesn't get mentioned much at all
This game made of over 100+ years of legends and stories... I adore this game!
I'm a dodgers fan and this might be my favorite extra history video also 42!!!!
All I know is the Washington Grays were the most winning team in dc for a long while
PANR has tuned in.
Why would people dislike this video
Closet conservatives 🤦♂️
1% chance they found some kind of legitimate issue with the video, 99% chance they're really really butthurt about a spotlight being shone on how obscenely fucking racist the US has been for virtually its entire history.
I read when Jackie Robinson played for the Montreal Royals he didn’t get anywhere near the gate he got in the south. I also heard he had fond memories of the city.
Aaaaand 'Heritage Moments' flashbacks...
That title popping up in my notifs
Josh Gibson finally recognized and included in the record books!
Hey Extra History! I would love to see a series done on Henry Every's pirate heist and the Henry Every trials afterwards.
As someone from Kansas City, I thank you for bringing some spotlight to the Negro League, and recommend everyone to visite theNegro League Museum in KC.
My grandfather was a friend of Branch Rickey because he had nursed Rickey through the flu on the troopship after WWI. Granddad was one of the people RIckey consulted when he was thinking about hiring Robinson.
My reaction to seeing you IRL: Oh gosh he's cute. I have been blessed.
This is a great video, honestly never heard of Gibson before and I love baseball. Good to learn more about these players
I have to admit, I have a deep love for baseball, but I do also prefer when it’s the minors, because that’s where you see the way they are and how good they will be, and though Jackie Robinson was an unknown he remains to this day as one of the 10 greatest baseball players
You should make a series about NASA and how I made it to Florida
I don’t know much about baseball but these all sound like great men
I love the sports history video, hope to see more in the future!
can you talk about the Central American Wars of 1856?
Nobody cares about central america
Yes, do so.
@@theoutlook55 no
@@desmondmolina3142 Pretty sure people in Central America do.
@@speedy01247 I am from honduras
Ughh...this channel is AWESOME!!! ❤️✌🏼🙏🏼
a fascinating piece of history not enough people talk about
i have a suggestion for one of your videos - you could cover Operation Arsenal, one of the bravest polish scout operations
Don't care a BIT about baseball, but keep this up! This is American history!! It's all important!
Jackie played in Montreal (which was a minor league affiliate of Brooklyn Dodgers) before coming to the Dodgers. If memory serves.
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The Montreal Royals.
Love this - Women's League next?
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Enjoyed the video but you left out one key individual in the integration of baseball. The Major League’s Second Commissioner, A.B. “Happy”Chandler. He became Commissioner after Kennesaw Mountain Landis’s death in 1945. It was under Chandler’s leadership, which was only for one term by the way, which allowed Branch Rickey to sign Jackie Robinson to the Dodgers. Chandler’s efforts to integrate baseball eventually earned him a place in the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, NY. Please do what you can to correct this oversight.
Robinson started playing for the Montréal Royals. He faces racism when playing in the US, but in Montréal, he was loved by fans.
Thank you so much for this video, especially beginning with some of my hometown's own history in this subject. Just a heads up, after 1911, Pittsburgh PA was officially spelled with an H at the end. It's actually an interesting story on its own. For two decades, the city government refused to acknowledge the federal government's respelling of the city name.
Also in this video: A face reveal.
1. Salute to those early trail blazers
2. IRL Matt’s lack of a beard is borderline betrayal
you guys are so awesome
I... didn't expect to cry at this.
I don't know why but this video almost made me cry
I'd watch a lot more baseball if there were more pitchers like Paige. That level of showmanship sounds super entertaining!
Zack Grenke is like that. He’s one of my favorites to watch.
Please continue this kind of historical retelling as more and more States begin to go against critical race thinking be taught in school
Americans school kids are nearly dead last in math, geography, and science. Nice you want more distractions.
@@Easy-Eight last time I checked, history and sociology were also important parts of a well-rounded education. Because let's be fucking real, what the right calls "critical race theory" (which isn't actually what that term refers to, to be clear) is anything that doesn't paint America as a magical place where racism never existed.
Nothing about Jackie Robinson's 1946 season in Montreal, the Canadian city that was an oasis for Robinson where he was the summer hero in a year when the pressure on the road nearly drove him into a nervous breakdown?
oh god 3D Zoe is ADORABLE!!!!
Thank you for the video.
John McGraw, Hall of Fame manager for first the Orioles and then the Giants hated the segregation of baseball.
In 1901, while managing the Orioles, he tried to sneak a black player named Grant onto his roster by claiming that he was a Native American. The owner of the White Sox recognized Grant and called McGraw out.
McGraw managed the New York Giants for 30 years and retired in 1932, 14 years before MLB was finally integrated. After he passed, his widow found papers with scouting reports and “wishlists” of Negro League players McGraw wanted to sign to his team.
Cap Anson really needs to be called out by name as the primary force behind the segregating of baseball
According to the Canadian Encyclopedia website, Jackie Robinson played only a month in Florida and it was a nightmare. Then, he played a year for the Royals in Montreal where he was loved. The Royals won the series that year and Jackie may have been the best player. I am not sure why you did not mention the contrast between Florida and Montreal.
I was watching the videos regarding Sun Yat-sen, and then a new video.
At 4:27 the video states “Josh Gibson officially hit 238 pitches”, which doesn’t really make sense. Did you mean to say “Home Runs” instead of pitches?
Do a video on George Stinney's case.
Jackie will past away in 1972 and still today all teams and he played for the Padres and the Dodgers but we still know him as the greatest player in the mlb who broke the barrier
He never played for the Padres lol wtf
@@brennanroy7842 oops my bad XD
At least they're finally getting recognition.
Has anyone else read the book "Summerland'? This video reminded me of it.
fun fact-did you know the 1st baseball game ever was played in OXFORD CO ONT
Plus Gibson and Paige were almost past their prime versus Jackie Robinson starting his prime
I hope you do a special on the all American girls professional baseball league
I have not clicked this fast in a long time XD
Moses Fleetwood walker paved the way for Jackie Robinson
Cries in Ken Griffey Jr
Vladimir Guerrero and Guerrero Jr too
Could you please make a series on the Tennessee valley authority
Lol I see you buck oneil!!! RIP middle chair 7:56.
Please cover Tulsa race riots.
In the opening shot, why is Pittsburgh spelled without an h? Was this intentional or just a spelling mistake?
I can recommend the series "Baseball" by Ken Burns.
Considering recent events and what happened to Lt. Col. Barnard Kemter, I'd kinda like to know more about the origins of Memorial Day.
Please talk about Louis Francis Sockalexis the Native American baseball player from Cleveland, he was in the major leagues before even Jackie Robinson . He is why the Cleveland Indians name exists
A lot of people where there before Jackie Hiram Bithorn some Colombian prolly more but idk
Remember when this channel was mainly about vidya gaems?
where do you get your info from
@Extra Credits 0:31 The Grey's tying run is coming to bat in that situation, not the winning run. Other than that, the video is an informative one about the history of black baseball.
It is cool the think that one of the very first African American player played for my hometown team in Toledo Ohio
Yay
Do you have any LGBT stories for pride month? I would be so excited to see one.
Sure but hell no
Finally I saw Zoe❤
Mexico broke the color barrier for Baseball
Finally first comment on a extra history video
I love this
"It's not a toomur!"
And now for the 2024 season, the MLB made a big thing about how cool it was that they finally integrated baseball statistics by merging the negro league’s statistics into their own historical stats. It’s pretty shameful that it took this long imo
Wait, Matt has a face! *Mind blown*