NOTE: We haven't forgotten about the Lies and "music video" for Majaphit! Those will be coming out next Saturday! For now, enjoy our one-off before the next series airs. In 1687, a court convicts a young woman of kidnapping, bodysnatching, and arson. They sentence her to burn at the stake-but they convict an empty chair. Julie D’Aubigny is far too busy fighting tavern duels and living on the run with her girlfriend. And instead of an execution, she’ll get a starring role at the Paris Opera.
Reminds me just a little of Émilie du Châtelet. For both their gender was the least interesting thing about them. She'd actually make a good subject for a one off too.
@@jootan91 And besides, this world is a very strange place to live. Far stranger than what fiction depicts (perhaps even moreso than what fiction CAN depict). Might as well have fun with crazy tales.
well, Alexander the great also died at the age of 33, and she did enough to be on the same tier of eternal glory as him, if this video is to be believed
This somehow is the most depressing way to cast the difference between the extraordinary and the "just, you know, people" I've ever seen haha. My NPlife will never be the same...
@@jasonandriulaitis7885 Ngl I could easily see Otto as a dope father figure to Julie if they'd ever gotten a chance to meet each other; trying a teensy bit to keep her in line but also not really caring and even going on crazy mishaps together.
*The court:* you've been charged with kidnapping and murder *Julie:* yes but consider this........................I'm bi *The king:* mm true, understandable *The Court:* sir that's not a valid defence- *The king:* PARDONED
Potatoes: your starving after this court case, please eat us. We potatoes don’t care if you’re lgbt or not, please eat us. Potatoes! The most diverse food! For rich and poor, the straight and lgbt, the vegans and vegetarians and meat eaters, in thanksgiving and Christmas. POTATOES!
"Where she died... at the age of 33." o.0 All of that happened before she was even in her 30s?? Geez, what have I been doing with my life? I haven't even fought a *single* duel!
Modern experts say that if you have not fought a duel, fled the country, stared in an opera, and burned down a religious institute by age 30 what's the point
When you said "died at 33" I fell off my chair. I thought she'd be 45 by the point the Marquise de Florensac died. I checked and I saw that I only had three years to live essentially ALL of her life. Then I fell into a deep grief and joined a convent.
Actually, from what I read, Louis XIV found the whole 3v1 duel hilarious, and immediately pardon her on the grounds that the prohibition aplayed only to men. She left mostly because despite the pardon it was still a massive scandal. Also, that was her second 3v1 duel. She fought her first duel like that some years prior, against a man who disrespected her. She later felt sorry for him, seduced him and had a quick romance with him. After that, they were life long friend... because why let a little something like a duel get in the way of a good friendship.
L XIV probably didn't care all that much himself but he had to keep up appearances and when he liked someone he cherished that person, similarly he went to get Molière out of jail regularly, before saying the equivalent of: "dude could you please tone your plays down I'm tired of getting your ass out of jail at each première".
Yeah, life expectancy statistics are low because of high child mortality rate. While still low compared to today, people who lived through their teens could usually enjoy a life until their fifties/sixties, excluding external influences like war, murder, disease etc.
"Julie died at the age of 33" Whait! She did all these things in less than 20 years of adult life?! WTF?! XD Okay, never heard of her before, but she truly was a very interesting woman. Proud that she was french :D
I'm sure there are anime characters based off of her. I think there's a fate stay night character who is a version or reincarnation or something of her. I could be wrong. I saw pictures on Google and haven't watched that anime yet. I want to tho.
"Defeating _THREE_ duelists on the same evening; whilst juggling affairs with men _AND_ women? Sorry d'Artagnan. That fourth position has just been filled." _WWJd'AD?_
BTW: It wasn't three duelists in the same evening. It was three duelists AT THE SAME TIME (in the actual duel they didn't wait in line, they all rushed her together). And she actually did that TWICE (the video leaves out her duel/affair with Louis-Joseph d'Albert).
They left out that the King eventually pardoned her, because he used the logic that since his degree specifically said that "men" were not allowed to duel, it did not technically apply to a woman. She still wisely left town for a spell. It may or may not be true that she might have actually helped nurse one of the noblemen back to health after the affair. This woman was amazing. You can find accounts of her in books dedicated to the history of swordsmanship as well as books about the history of opera.
@Zacharie Guillerey Actually, from everything I read about the incident in the past the King actually found the entire deal hilarious. He only punished her because the duel went down while his brother was in attendance (Louis himself was away from Paris at the time) and to keep up appearances. Otherwise he gave her plenty of warning and time to get out of dodge in the aftermath before actually putting out the warrant, and it's also why she was relatively easily forgiven.
To be honest, the records do not actually say she died there. She basically went off radar from all records at this point. No records of death, nothing. Which considering what she did in the past may have been a rehash of what she did previously with her girlfriend, passing for dead, and taking a new identity so she would no longer face potential justice rulings.
The brightest stars? she was a flipping MURDERER and an arson!? she should have been hung then shot then hung a again for what she did. holy crap people are stupid to idolize her.
@@aelitastones3110 her "murders" are kills in duels, which is different than murder per say. if not, by that logic you could say an executioner and a doctor involved in legal, consented euthanasia do the same thing
OMG, Extra Credits knows about Citation Needed! For some reason that makes me giddy! Edit: Wait, they promoted Tom Scott's channel about a year or so ago as part of a larger recommendation video... so duh. But still!
As a habitual podcast listener, Citation Needed is one of my all time favorites. Here's hoping Extra History also covers the Goiania Accident, Chung Ling Soo, or the Dreadnought Hoax.
If yall like history, id highly recommend Epic History as well as Marche History and Invicta. Very in depth without getting boring, great visuals on the battles they cover, and the narration is top notch. Invicta (an ex Total War TH-camr) does some really interesting looks into what ancient life was like. For example one is “serial killers of antiquity” “how did they declare war in Ancient Rome” (which is hilarious how they did it) “everyday moments of history - a Roman soldier prepares dinner” “the Nika Riots” and best of all “intoxicated moments in history - Nazis on Drugs”
Lmfao I realized that too...it made me wonder "I wonder which illustrations the artist of this channel made him crack up the most. I'd love to see a list"
Thou shalt not stand in the way of a woman confidently gripping a blade... For she is used to bulldozing through barriers and you do not want to become a speedbump.
Not really accurate, just because you’re confident doesn’t mean you’re good. This goes for literally everyone. I can pick up a sword and be confident but I’d still lose.
Honestly accurate in my experience. The ladies tend to be absolutely brutal fighters, at least in the reenactment groups I run with, like, with the guys they tend to run the spread between newbie who can't hold his stick to ungodly threat, but the women tend to be highly focused on the field and above average for the spread.
I kinda like the fact that the duelists treated her as an equal. They treated her as a rival suitor under their rules and didn't pull any malarkey. They had beef, they settled the beef.
I’d really love to see even more units focusing on prominent LGBT people in history. It’s really important for people to see that these communities have always existed and how they have influenced history. Growing up, you’d never hear stories like this in a classroom.
This. I'm sick of people claiming that being LGBT+ is "some newfangled thing". It's not. Look up the twin spirits of some Native American tribes, the fa'afafine of the Samoas, the hijra of India, Pakistan, and Nepal, and the Mahu of the Kanaka Maoli and Maohi people.
@@animequeen78 Same here! Some people love to pretend it's all new when really it's just that LGBT+ people aren't as widely discriminated against as before.
My favorite historical person ever. Someone needs to do a biopic (yes, there's been "very loosely based on" but I want a REAL one). What it ultimately boils down to is that Julie was SO over the top no one knew what the hell to actually DO with her. It also helped that the King found the whole matter hilarious (even the fight at the royal ball he privately thought was funny as hell). And shame on you for not mentioning her duel/affair with d'Albert, tho. I mean come on; d'Albert makes a move on her, she fights him AND two of his flunkies at the same time, stabs him in the shoulder, hooks up with him ANYWAY and becomes life-long BFFs and @#$% buddies?
Well aparently there is a french mini-series about her.... who romancize her roman-style life by making her saved by an opera woman while she was about to be executed in a black mess....
She once stabbed herself on stage during one scene with a REAL dagger. Her then-boyfriend promptly ran off, leaving a letter telling her to leave him alone as well as some bribe money.
I know Hollywood has a problem with originality these days, but hearing these stories week after week just reinforces my belief that the only reason for this lack of originality is because they are too occupied with their own self-worth to even begin looking through history for interesting stories to tell.
@@mrnobody-unowen What's really sad is if you go to a website called Rejected Princess, there's alot of of women from history Hollywood can produce movies from it.
@MyHero Deku Nope. What you're describing is the Spartan shield. That's the Greek letter lambda, which correlates to our L, the first letter in Lacedaemon or Laconia, the names for Sparta in antiquity. Athenian shields often featured an owl, a bird sacred to the goddess Athena. But Athena herself possessed the Aegis, a shield given to her by Zeus which had the face of the gorgon Medusa on it.
@@DireBeagle Well, of course Sparta worshipped Athena too, I mean, when you believed in Gods, you do not want to disappoint any of them ^^' But their favourite gods were Zeus and Ares, not Athena.
As a fan of Citation Needed, I would like to say "And the wheel spins, and lands on France!" And would like to complain that Julie d'Aubigny never dressed up as a doctor, and said "This Nun has a terrible disease!"
Louis XIV: *hears about the metaphorical balls on Julie* I like her Julie: *proceeds to continue being a bi badass* Check this out! I am gonna do a thing!!! :D :P
Even her date of death is somewhat controversial. She has no known grave site, the convent she retired to was (to my knowledge) never recorded, and IIRC she simply vanishes from the historical record around that time. There's at least some evidence that she ultimately retired quietly with her husband, and the "dead in a convent at 33" was fabricated as a morality tale.
I dunno, most of the people I know into hema are physically fit, and generally fairly decent looking. Getting in a few scraps here and there (especially when you don't get injured) doesn't necessarily equal you looking old an haggard after a while.
Her father was very strict and raised her like a boy. Forced her to train swordfighting etc with the other boys. He also wouldn't let her marry, rejecting (assaulting) everyone that came to him to ask to marry her. So she got involved with her dad's boss. Which was the only man at Versailles her father couldn't "reject". Later, she got involved with a swordmaster at Versailles. The swordmaster committed some crime and had to leave in a hurry to live the life of a fugitive...on the run. Julie desided to join him in living a life as a fugative. The swordmaster had her disguised as a man. The swordmaster spent a lot of this time hopping from tavern to tavern...and Julie was with him...still disguised as a man, pretending to be a man. Of course, drunk men in taverns tended to fight other men. Meaning disguising yourself as a man and spending most of your time in taverns will eventually lead to such situations Luckily whe was very good at fencing. Thanx to her father forcing her to train since childhood with other boys at Versailles.
Imagine being so rad that when the king hears your story and crimes, he says "You know what, that's badass as hell" and pardons you so you can preform in the opera and roast the church.
How as this woman's life not been made into a movie? I loved her from the moment they said she won fist fights! If she were bi, then she was my kind of woman.
The reason her life hasn't been made into a movie is generally because of cultural feelings on homosexuality and bisexuality til recently. And then once homosexuality became popular, movies about 17th century france became less of a theatrical draw.
Click the wheel in the lower right corner, choose "Subtitles -> Add subtitles", and go from there. Submit when you're done, and after a while (not sure how long) they should be available. ¡Mucho éxito! :)
Cheng I Sao is awesome in what she achieved but wasn't like Julie really (Not worse or better. Just different). A closer comparison to Julie would probably be the Pirate Anne Bonny though I like to think of her of a combination of both Julie and Cheng wrapped up in Irish and is awesome for her own separate reasons too. Would love to see a series on here about her!
Take Anne Bonny, Julie, and Cheng...and then add royalty to their occupation list and the iron ovaries to stand up to Elizabeth I in her face, and you've got Grace O'Malley (who's gaelic name I am not even going to try and spell here), the ax-wielding Pirate Queen of Ireland.
they probably would have. IF they where part of the same country. At Otto Von Bisarck's time Germany and France where NOT friends. and I highly dought Bismarck would have wanted to be friends with a Frenchy
"I would hate to be, myself, one of those people in history that's only remembered as being the guy that got stabbed through a shoulder, potentially stuck to a tree, by that lady that pretended to be a nun, who sang opera, that burnt the convent down 'cos that's not a great way to be remembered, let's face it." - Everybody's favorite Gary Brannan, Gary Brannan
If you were Louis-Joseph d'Albert it meant hooking up with her afterwards. And oh yeah, she happened to have been one of the hottest women in all of France in her day, too. Worth it.
@@alexanderrowley9870 Not quite either since he was never proclaimed. It's like saying Michael II was the last Russian Tsar since Nicholas II abdicated the throne for him, which he abdicated after a day. He's a legitimate pretender, but after Charles X, the King of France was abolished in favor of the King of the French in LP I, who abdicated 18 years later with a 2nd French Republic, which became the 2nd French Empire with Napoleon III who abdicated after 18 years........a lot of abdications.
Hey guys, if you're looking for other incredible figures from a bit later than this period with many of the same very modern persuasions, you guys should check out the Chevalier D'Eon - a gender-ambiguous (right up until their death!) diplomat and dueling spy. Very cool and interesting story here though. Thank you for bringing Julie's story to the forefront!
d'Eon even managed to survive the French Revolution and died of old age. Which for an aristocrat is quite an accomplishment. Even more so for a genderfluid aristocrat.
She is incredibly badass, I wish she had, had a happier ending, but at least it wasn't as tragic as it could have been, also she needs several movies, TV shows and comic books.
vazak11 She doesn’t have a known grave, and we don’t know which convent she’s reported to have died in. For all we know, it’s possible she went into hiding and went to one of the early French colonies in America and wandered around some to get over her past, somehow used the whole convent thing as a cover story, and died of some disease in the Bayou somewhere in Louisiana or some shite.
She is an inspiration to all of us crazy bisexuals (or pansexuals in my case) out there (not to say all of us are crazy, some of us just more so than others and I mean it in no bad way)!
I actually yelled WHAT several times during this. For the record, the D&D 5e build I'd use is 14 swords bard, 6 swashbuckler rogue. Point buy at level 1 is variant human (prodigy feat for performance) 11/16/12/10/8/16. Later take tavern brawler for 12 str because you have to be able to punch people in the face sometimes.
Im convinced her life was actually in the dnd world and shes a chaotic neutral bard that split from the party to go on her own adventures and rolled a 20 to seduce every time
OH MY GOD THANK YOU EXTRA CREDITS FOR COVERING THIS HERO ! As a french wlw myself, D'aubigny is one of my favorite historical figures. 20gayteen keeps on giving !
Mike Leslie Think about it, if Julie is a fictional character, people will most definitely criticize her story of being ridiculous or non-realistic, but it seems like real life could be more dramatic than stories.
And she had her fair share of people who didn't like her for some real reasons. On top of that, she actually had some real flaws, if you figure a wild lifestyle a flaw.
NOTE: We haven't forgotten about the Lies and "music video" for Majaphit! Those will be coming out next Saturday! For now, enjoy our one-off before the next series airs.
In 1687, a court convicts a young woman of kidnapping, bodysnatching, and arson. They sentence her to burn at the stake-but they convict an empty chair. Julie D’Aubigny is far too busy fighting tavern duels and living on the run with her girlfriend. And instead of an execution, she’ll get a starring role at the Paris Opera.
Can't wait for the lies episode 🤓
Could you sometime make an episode about Egill Skallgrímson ?
Reminds me just a little of Émilie du Châtelet. For both their gender was the least interesting thing about them. She'd actually make a good subject for a one off too.
Toast of London reference! Love it!! Amazing work!
Make a t-shirt for the always has a plan moment
If Julie were around today, she’d definitely have a motorcycle.
also, my heart, soul and underwear
@@kariscoyne1886 Bread, milk, eggs, and squick.
Exactly
@@kariscoyne1886 Exactly
And twitter
"I came here for a fun time not a long time."
-Julie d'Aubginy.... probably.
C-can she reincarnate and be my girlfriend?
Bismarck has a plan, Bismarck always has a plan
I love extra history's about people I have never heard of😊
Clearly, she was an open-world RPG protagonist.
I was just thinking I had been unknowingly playing an Ancient Greek version of Julie in Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
that is exactly what this is
Now, I wanted to play an open RPG in the last decades of the century of Louis XIV XD
Oh my God, she's literally a chaotic good bard. High charisma, casually sexually active, she even sings for crying out loud.
Clearly indeed!
This woman is the closest thing to a D&D Bard that has ever graced this planet.
Hot damn, you right
I actually kinda want to make a college of swords bard based on her now.
That’s exactly what I was thinking!
If I remember right she was literally the inspiration for them.
I am so proud of this comment
“Louis the Fourteenth’s own brother was gay, and crossdressed”
So when is the new anime coming out
And that Mr King's Brother was also one of the most proeminent warriors in the King's army during wartimes.
@@quoniam426 i like to think he was very bad at crossdressing and he fought wile crossdressed
David McConville Astolfo and d'Eon: "One of us. One of us…"
Look up Versailles. Unfortunately, no Julie there, much to my disappointment.
Philippe, Duke of Orléans
So, a female bisexual, cross dressing, traveling singer, dancer and master fencer? Im surprised Hollywood isnt climbing all over this one.
I personally would cast Natalie Dormer as her if there ever was a biopic about her.
I think they would if this story did not already sound like an extremely cheesy film
@@Redbird-dh7mu cheesy or not, historically based movies is always interesting to watch.
@@jootan91 And besides, this world is a very strange place to live. Far stranger than what fiction depicts (perhaps even moreso than what fiction CAN depict). Might as well have fun with crazy tales.
Agreed
"...and she died there" >yeah, fair enough
"... at the age of 33."
w h a t
I know, right?
well, Alexander the great also died at the age of 33, and she did enough to be on the same tier of eternal glory as him, if this video is to be believed
@@tntimothyroditi1576 So did Jesus!
she actually died at 37 but still remarkably young.
That was normal at the time, they died very early.
That woman was clearly just a player character, my fellow NPCs
Dont Panic
C H A O T I C N E U T R A L
Well met.
I wonder who the other players were.
@@ninjabluefyre3815 what other players?
This somehow is the most depressing way to cast the difference between the extraordinary and the "just, you know, people" I've ever seen haha. My NPlife will never be the same...
Of course sword duels are banned, everyone knows duels are done with children's card game.
+
Duel monsters?
It's a children's card game! Ancient Egyptians loved it!
Fuck I'm down how do we play?
I wonder if Julie sent the people she defeated to the shadow realm
When all else fails, BLAST EM WITH YOUR BLUE EYES AGAIN
IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!
"Julie had a plan. Julie ALWAYS had a plan."
*Otto Von Bismarck would like to know your location.*
Hahahahahhahaahahahaha
They would probably “get along well”, if you know what I mean.
@@jasonandriulaitis7885 Ngl I could easily see Otto as a dope father figure to Julie if they'd ever gotten a chance to meet each other; trying a teensy bit to keep her in line but also not really caring and even going on crazy mishaps together.
MrReyes 500 they could drink a lot of brandy with their pet PANTHERS?
I was surprised when the Otto got bismark shirt didn’t show up
*The court:* you've been charged with kidnapping and murder
*Julie:* yes but consider this........................I'm bi
*The king:* mm true, understandable
*The Court:* sir that's not a valid defence-
*The king:* PARDONED
*The Church:* YOU'RE WHAT
Potatoes: your starving after this court case, please eat us. We potatoes don’t care if you’re lgbt or not, please eat us.
Potatoes! The most diverse food! For rich and poor, the straight and lgbt, the vegans and vegetarians and meat eaters, in thanksgiving and Christmas. POTATOES!
@@hexaltheninjawow9531 are you Irish
the bookworm hotel I’m a viet
@@hexaltheninjawow9531 I'm Irish and I love potatoes
"Where she died... at the age of 33." o.0 All of that happened before she was even in her 30s??
Geez, what have I been doing with my life? I haven't even fought a *single* duel!
Give me a time and place to meet and I'll fix that
I doubt someone can duel properly. We aren't trained for duelling. Back then, they were.
Modern experts say that if you have not fought a duel, fled the country, stared in an opera, and burned down a religious institute by age 30 what's the point
Time to join a convent, probably.
@@teigantheisen2549 I haven't played Yugioh in years, please go easy on me.
So she was basically what all D&D bards aspire to be.
Well College of swords bard
Or lore, since they aren't really known to hold their tongues.
A bisexual, wine drinking, dueling, opera singer... That is the most french thing I have ever heard.
Agreed.
And why isn't there an R rated HBO or Netflix series about her?
She was too french even for the french... I guess that was her crime XD
**modern* French stereotype
Well, they's already made at least one movie loosely based on her life, but frankly the real thing sounds more interesting.
Louis XIV: Holy shit, that's the greatest story I've ever heard. PARDONED!
How did she get her girlfriend?
_She pretended to be a doctor._
Nice citation needed reference.
And she’d say “This nun has a terrible disease! She must come with me immediately!”
Panthers?
MYSTERY BISCUITS! (Oh yeah!)
@@nyettubernl1983 and also the doctor has a sword
When u multiclass into bard and fighter
I was just thinking college of swords from Xanathar's Guide to Everything
These people clearly don't realize how important action surge or starting with con saves are to a melee oriented bard.
the right type of Bard can use CHA for sword fighting, don't need to waste time on Fighter.
Hardest historical multi class lol
@@sea-envy3137 lmao just dex rapier
When you said "died at 33" I fell off my chair. I thought she'd be 45 by the point the Marquise de Florensac died. I checked and I saw that I only had three years to live essentially ALL of her life. Then I fell into a deep grief and joined a convent.
Get up off your butt and start dueling right now!
Who said she actually died
It was actually 37.
Don’t judge yourself
@@alpacaofthemountain8760 Especially now that I'm past that time xD
Actually, from what I read, Louis XIV found the whole 3v1 duel hilarious, and immediately pardon her on the grounds that the prohibition aplayed only to men. She left mostly because despite the pardon it was still a massive scandal.
Also, that was her second 3v1 duel. She fought her first duel like that some years prior, against a man who disrespected her. She later felt sorry for him, seduced him and had a quick romance with him. After that, they were life long friend... because why let a little something like a duel get in the way of a good friendship.
"Honor duels"
"3v1"
Pick one.
She defeated them one on one, not all at the same time.
Patrik fighting 3 1v1 duels in a night is still an accomplishment
That actually makes sense considering what else we knew about the king. Also explains why she went back despite that crime.
ArgentumFox "Sorry about that duel thing. Wanna kiss?"
@@Pottan23 I think the only way to have an honorable and fair duel with Julie WOULD be a 3v1... or like 15v1
She’s the most French woman in history.
No she isnt
She actually wins
@gipcambero i know im just memeing
@gipcambero you didn't get the joke.
@gipcambero Canada never lost a war
@@chava2956IF SOMEONE CRITIQUE JOKE JUST SAY WOOSOODOSSHSHS
You guys have no way out of this one: You have to make an Extra History of Louis XIV now.
Ikr! He's super woke even to today's standard, and he was also such a cunning leader, too.
THEY HAVENT YET
@@vanphung7270 The only thing being he's nowhere near as nuts as the modern woke crowd.
L XIV : Arrest Julie !!
*1 year later*
Julie : Um hey Louis…
L XIV : Oh hey, been a while right ? Want a role in the opera ?
L XIV probably didn't care all that much himself but he had to keep up appearances and when he liked someone he cherished that person, similarly he went to get Molière out of jail regularly, before saying the equivalent of: "dude could you please tone your plays down I'm tired of getting your ass out of jail at each première".
Absolute power corrupts minds...
L'etat c'est moi
@@toasterofdoom9629 the state is me
Add Julie to "list of historical people I most want to get a drink with" right between Julius ceaser and Ben franklin
If it's the young frankly, I think they'd all be fine with that threesome.
No, if is Giacomo Casanova wasn't in the mix I wouldn't show up.
Caesar? I'm out
Cleopatra as well
We also need to get Khutulun to join us.
So this is the historical version of "be gay, do crimes"?
Yes
Well, she’d have to have only slept with women to be ‘be gay, do crimes.’ So more like ‘be bi, do crimes.’
Wut dat?
Ruth Nield more like “Bi crimes”
"Hello, Julie, my name is Madame La Marquis de Florensac. They call me "Crimes".
Goddamn, what a gal. She's been dead for centuries but now I have a massive crush on her!
That is called necrophilia
Well you can still do her in your dreams , Im sure she to still have lovers after all those years .
I have a few questions...
Nothin' hotter than a gal that could literally murder ya. Bi culture.
@@steinmaniac7920 that sounds very illegal
Rejected Princesses described her best:
"Bugs Bunny, but hornier."
Chaotic Neutral
Lvl 20 bard
Nadia & Asia lvl 30 rogue
Nah fam Chaotic Good Bard-Rogue with a +13 in persuasion.
All this...by 33...
Daaaaang! She wasted NO TIME.
On the other side, she burned through it as well. :O
life were pretty short at the time...disease and whatnot...
Well, if you were in the higher classes of society (she was quite so), you had way more chance to become old
Yeah, life expectancy statistics are low because of high child mortality rate. While still low compared to today, people who lived through their teens could usually enjoy a life until their fifties/sixties, excluding external influences like war, murder, disease etc.
I have hear it said; go big or go home. She went big and bold.
"Julie died at the age of 33"
Whait! She did all these things in less than 20 years of adult life?! WTF?! XD
Okay, never heard of her before, but she truly was a very interesting woman. Proud that she was french :D
Almost TOO French
She did most of that before 21
@@TheSpiritombsableyedang
She pretended to be a doctor and said :
"Everyone here has a terrible disease!"
Citation Needed?
Panthers?
Burning down a convent?
She did get help?
Well that was a rollercoaster of a life.
Antti Björklund more like a level 5 tornado of a life
Kataru King scribe MORE like a category 5 hurricane and tornado plus an earthquake of a life
I think we can just say category five of a life
A short one, but a rollercoaster nonetheless.
I feel like her life is just a "you can't say history never gave you anything" story.
I don't think Julie can really be described as planning anything.
The plans are too slow and can't keep up
So basically your saying a vague line from The Dark Knight’s Joker heath ledger
She lived more in 33 years than I could live in 33,000
Mateo Gg Then do something.
Too bad this lady lived 400 years ago, she sounds like my type
This would make a very popular Shoujo Anime, HolyShit.
Are you familiar with Utena?
I'm sure the Rose of Versailles is loosely based on this
@@ezekielriveros4029 except that Rose of Versailles is set a few decades later at about the time of the revolution
@@natesmodelsdoodles5403 that's why he said "loosely based"
I'm sure there are anime characters based off of her. I think there's a fate stay night character who is a version or reincarnation or something of her. I could be wrong. I saw pictures on Google and haven't watched that anime yet. I want to tho.
This is a Grade A case of real life is stranger than fiction
The difference between history and fiction is that fiction needs to be believable.
ethan hatcher
Life is strange was shit don't go comparing that to this
The two brain dead main character don't even compare to this badass woman
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@@sammysaito529 I think they were going for the trope reference, not the show which i believe is named after the same trope.
"Defeating _THREE_ duelists on the same evening; whilst juggling affairs with men _AND_ women? Sorry d'Artagnan. That fourth position has just been filled." _WWJd'AD?_
BTW: It wasn't three duelists in the same evening. It was three duelists AT THE SAME TIME (in the actual duel they didn't wait in line, they all rushed her together). And she actually did that TWICE (the video leaves out her duel/affair with Louis-Joseph d'Albert).
They left out that the King eventually pardoned her, because he used the logic that since his degree specifically said that "men" were not allowed to duel, it did not technically apply to a woman. She still wisely left town for a spell.
It may or may not be true that she might have actually helped nurse one of the noblemen back to health after the affair.
This woman was amazing. You can find accounts of her in books dedicated to the history of swordsmanship as well as books about the history of opera.
@Zacharie Guillerey Actually, from everything I read about the incident in the past the King actually found the entire deal hilarious. He only punished her because the duel went down while his brother was in attendance (Louis himself was away from Paris at the time) and to keep up appearances. Otherwise he gave her plenty of warning and time to get out of dodge in the aftermath before actually putting out the warrant, and it's also why she was relatively easily forgiven.
I was totally shocked when the video said she died at 33. I guess the brightest stars really do burn the fastest.
To be honest, the records do not actually say she died there. She basically went off radar from all records at this point. No records of death, nothing. Which considering what she did in the past may have been a rehash of what she did previously with her girlfriend, passing for dead, and taking a new identity so she would no longer face potential justice rulings.
No, she later became Otto van Bismark
@@eleanorcarpenter37 That would also be a more than likely possibility
The brightest stars? she was a flipping MURDERER and an arson!? she should have been hung then shot then hung a again for what she did. holy crap people are stupid to idolize her.
@@aelitastones3110 her "murders" are kills in duels, which is different than murder per say. if not, by that logic you could say an executioner and a doctor involved in legal, consented euthanasia do the same thing
She died there, at the age of 33
wait wait wait
33? Way to bury the lead!
she was bisexual jesus
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Otto von Bismarck approves of this plan of action
All hail the queen of chaotic bisexuals.
Her and Anne Bonny are chilling out somewhere in paradise
So what you're saying is, she was a Bard. *Roll for seduction*
bisexuals are bisexuals
Not a counter culture dingus
She was a true chaotic neutral
The og chaos bi
Extra Credits: The Educational Version
Citation Needed: The Humorous Version
OMG, Extra Credits knows about Citation Needed! For some reason that makes me giddy!
Edit: Wait, they promoted Tom Scott's channel about a year or so ago as part of a larger recommendation video... so duh. But still!
As a habitual podcast listener, Citation Needed is one of my all time favorites. Here's hoping Extra History also covers the Goiania Accident, Chung Ling Soo, or the Dreadnought Hoax.
If yall like history, id highly recommend Epic History as well as Marche History and Invicta. Very in depth without getting boring, great visuals on the battles they cover, and the narration is top notch.
Invicta (an ex Total War TH-camr) does some really interesting looks into what ancient life was like. For example one is “serial killers of antiquity” “how did they declare war in Ancient Rome” (which is hilarious how they did it) “everyday moments of history - a Roman soldier prepares dinner” “the Nika Riots” and best of all “intoxicated moments in history - Nazis on Drugs”
"...What was illegal in Paris at that time?"
"Dueling more than two people in the same day! It was considered greedy."
_She pretended to be a doctor_
7:15 "Eventually, Julie pushed _things_ too far." That visual pun is GENIUS.
Lmfao I realized that too...it made me wonder "I wonder which illustrations the artist of this channel made him crack up the most. I'd love to see a list"
I loved the john carpenter reference they threw in "the thing" was an amazing horror movie
I did not notice that until you pointed it out.
Thou shalt not stand in the way of a woman confidently gripping a blade...
For she is used to bulldozing through barriers and you do not want to become a speedbump.
Not really accurate, just because you’re confident doesn’t mean you’re good. This goes for literally everyone. I can pick up a sword and be confident but I’d still lose.
My dude... don't go full Sheldon on something this waxy poeticy.
Honestly accurate in my experience. The ladies tend to be absolutely brutal fighters, at least in the reenactment groups I run with, like, with the guys they tend to run the spread between newbie who can't hold his stick to ungodly threat, but the women tend to be highly focused on the field and above average for the spread.
I kinda like the fact that the duelists treated her as an equal. They treated her as a rival suitor under their rules and didn't pull any malarkey. They had beef, they settled the beef.
I’d really love to see even more units focusing on prominent LGBT people in history. It’s really important for people to see that these communities have always existed and how they have influenced history. Growing up, you’d never hear stories like this in a classroom.
Check the Internet for d'Eon de Beaumont. He was a famous crossdresser, swords master and spy.
This. I'm sick of people claiming that being LGBT+ is "some newfangled thing". It's not. Look up the twin spirits of some Native American tribes, the fa'afafine of the Samoas, the hijra of India, Pakistan, and Nepal, and the Mahu of the Kanaka Maoli and Maohi people.
@@animequeen78 Same here! Some people love to pretend it's all new when really it's just that LGBT+ people aren't as widely discriminated against as before.
So we have a bisexual, fistfighting, wine drinking, sword dueling, opera singer in 17th-Century France....hey Hollywood get to work
I mean the script damn near writes it self.
Y'know
Just French things
3:02 Bismark approves
weldonwin but does Walpole approves?
just gotta always have a plan
French people aren't allowed to use my motto.
Bismarcking
Well they can if they pay the fine. One Alsace- Lorraine.
No plans
*Bismark.exe has stopped working*
My favorite historical person ever. Someone needs to do a biopic (yes, there's been "very loosely based on" but I want a REAL one).
What it ultimately boils down to is that Julie was SO over the top no one knew what the hell to actually DO with her. It also helped that the King found the whole matter hilarious (even the fight at the royal ball he privately thought was funny as hell).
And shame on you for not mentioning her duel/affair with d'Albert, tho. I mean come on; d'Albert makes a move on her, she fights him AND two of his flunkies at the same time, stabs him in the shoulder, hooks up with him ANYWAY and becomes life-long BFFs and @#$% buddies?
Well aparently there is a french mini-series about her.... who romancize her roman-style life by making her saved by an opera woman while she was about to be executed in a black mess....
You mean a bi-opic
I'll leave
The inately hillarious son of the duke of loins ^^
She once stabbed herself on stage during one scene with a REAL dagger. Her then-boyfriend promptly ran off, leaving a letter telling her to leave him alone as well as some bribe money.
@@angelaphsiao why your right
Americans: Florida is pretty wild huh?
Julie: hold my beer.
Correction
Julie :hold my sword
EC: And she died there.
Me, out loud: Awww...
EC: At the age of 33.
Me, out louder: 33!?!?!
I know Hollywood has a problem with originality these days, but hearing these stories week after week just reinforces my belief that the only reason for this lack of originality is because they are too occupied with their own self-worth to even begin looking through history for interesting stories to tell.
"1.6m subs" "94k views" Or people aren't that interested in watching history stuff
ocadioan You know what? Fuck it. Let’s make a movie about her
I think this movie would make waves.
@@mrnobody-unowen
What's really sad is if you go to a website called Rejected Princess, there's alot of of women from history Hollywood can produce movies from it.
Tabula Rasa your name is the name I picked for my main OC, XD
If you say your bi, but you don't regularly duel and light covens on fire, are you even really bi?
To be fair, she only lit that one coven on fire. xD
You light ONE convent, and people think of you as an arsonist for the rest of your life... So uncool !
Honestly, I think Julie was just fine with covens (witches’ gatherings) To my knowledge she only burned down a CONVENT (monastery)
Sorry, English not my mother language...
Im a sham...
Someone needs to MAKE 👏 THIS 👏 A MOVIE 👏
Someone has: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madamigella_di_Maupin
Agreed!
Would be up for a séries out of it!
We'll make another one.
With Keira Knightly
But she lives at the end. You can't put that in movie.
i think i speak for all bisexuals when i say Julie d'Aubigny is literally the greatest form of representation you could wish for.
Me, seeing video: okay a lady who can kick some ass, seems interesting.
Video: ... with her girlfriend
Me: AW YEAH THIS IS THE GREATEST THING EVER
Shows Athena, patron goddess of Athens, but gives her a Spartan shield, major rival of the Athenians. Hmmmm... Something isn't right about that.
@MyHero Deku Nope. What you're describing is the Spartan shield. That's the Greek letter lambda, which correlates to our L, the first letter in Lacedaemon or Laconia, the names for Sparta in antiquity. Athenian shields often featured an owl, a bird sacred to the goddess Athena. But Athena herself possessed the Aegis, a shield given to her by Zeus which had the face of the gorgon Medusa on it.
Lmao dumbass! Athena was ALSO patron go of Sparta. They both worshipped her as chief god.
are they even rivals?
@@DireBeagle Well, of course Sparta worshipped Athena too, I mean, when you believed in Gods, you do not want to disappoint any of them ^^'
But their favourite gods were Zeus and Ares, not Athena.
@@DireBeagle She goes B O T H ways. She gets both.
As a fan of Citation Needed, I would like to say "And the wheel spins, and lands on France!" And would like to complain that Julie d'Aubigny never dressed up as a doctor, and said "This Nun has a terrible disease!"
These feelings are seconded!
Don't forget, with the swords hidden down her pant legs.
Oooh Le France!!! *Gary Brennan intensifies*
Sadly, Matt doesn't have Tom's expert french name pronunciation skills...
That episode was amazing. Everyone should check out this podcast.
I'm surprised any nunnery let her join after what happened the first time.
Nuns: are you kidding that badass lesbian display was the best thing ever. Also that convent sucked so we don't care.
They're kind of big on second chances and repentance.
@@martytu20 Yep, that's kind of their deal.
Probably was a different convent
@@AnimeAngel88 you don't say !
why is this story not an original netflix series?
Louis XIV: *hears about the metaphorical balls on Julie* I like her
Julie: *proceeds to continue being a bi badass* Check this out! I am gonna do a thing!!! :D :P
*They should make a religion out of this*
I would, but I'm too busy worrying about how the sun is a deadly laser
Nah, not anymore theirs a blanket.
bold of you to assume she's not already my religion
@@asandysoldier3164 the blanket never got to Ethiopia.
And after that it's time to conquer all of India
*glances over her wikipedia page*
*died c. 33*
It's gonna be one of these tragic stories huh
*watches the video*
lol nvr mind
Julie: "Well, I've seen everything, fucked up everyone, and fucked everyone. Nothin' left for this bitch to do. JD out!" *dies*
Even her date of death is somewhat controversial. She has no known grave site, the convent she retired to was (to my knowledge) never recorded, and IIRC she simply vanishes from the historical record around that time. There's at least some evidence that she ultimately retired quietly with her husband, and the "dead in a convent at 33" was fabricated as a morality tale.
Live fast, die young, leave a good looking corpse.
given her propensity for duels and a hard life.... she would have left a haggared corpse.
I dunno, most of the people I know into hema are physically fit, and generally fairly decent looking. Getting in a few scraps here and there (especially when you don't get injured) doesn't necessarily equal you looking old an haggard after a while.
How the hell does a person go from a semi normal singer-duelist to some gay criminal because of....boredom of a previous lover....?
Life is an open world RPG and Julie d'Aubigny is the player character
Just her stun to fake dead and gone with the wind 🤣 unless she have some illness i doubt that she could just pass away inthat age 🤣🤣
Well...Yes.
Men are really really boring lmao
Her father was very strict and raised her like a boy. Forced her to train swordfighting etc with the other boys. He also wouldn't let her marry, rejecting (assaulting) everyone that came to him to ask to marry her.
So she got involved with her dad's boss. Which was the only man at Versailles her father couldn't "reject".
Later, she got involved with a swordmaster at Versailles. The swordmaster committed some crime and had to leave in a hurry to live the life of a fugitive...on the run.
Julie desided to join him in living a life as a fugative. The swordmaster had her disguised as a man. The swordmaster spent a lot of this time hopping from tavern to tavern...and Julie was with him...still disguised as a man, pretending to be a man.
Of course, drunk men in taverns tended to fight other men. Meaning disguising yourself as a man and spending most of your time in taverns will eventually lead to such situations
Luckily whe was very good at fencing. Thanx to her father forcing her to train since childhood with other boys at Versailles.
The 1k dislikes are men with bruised egos.
Imagine being so rad that when the king hears your story and crimes, he says "You know what, that's badass as hell" and pardons you so you can preform in the opera and roast the church.
How as this woman's life not been made into a movie? I loved her from the moment they said she won fist fights! If she were bi, then she was my kind of woman.
she was bi, she got with doods as well as dood-ettes
@@ZeroTheHeartlessKing well now i know what i wanna do with a time machine! (No inuendo intended)
The reason her life hasn't been made into a movie is generally because of cultural feelings on homosexuality and bisexuality til recently.
And then once homosexuality became popular, movies about 17th century france became less of a theatrical draw.
I say that about EVERY Extra History videos.... so many good stories, so many wasted opportunities by a feckless hollywood
I ask my self this when I first read about her. Of course some people might think her story is to wild to be believable. ;)
Guys, can I caption this in Spanish? I want to share it with my friends! But some of them don't speak English.
Click the wheel in the lower right corner, choose "Subtitles -> Add subtitles", and go from there. Submit when you're done, and after a while (not sure how long) they should be available. ¡Mucho éxito! :)
You can just press subtitles then find Spanish
Itstheplayer277 people have to make it. They don’t randomly appear
The subtitles never were made in Spanish though
@@varana I've done just that. I hope they like them! Did my best on the idioms, though. Not really translatable.
Good heavens. What is this, a dungeons and dragons campaign?
A JRPG
Live fast, die young, bad girls do it well...
Sidekick? More like…
*Side Chick*
Bum dum tss
Codes320 leave
"No one before or since was quite like Julie La Maupin"
(shows the link to Cheng I Sao)
They were both very accomplished women for their respective times but in completely different ways!
Pika Zilla and they were born on different days and died on different days so that’s a difference :-;
well if you put it that way; they were born on different seconds from different mothers
Cheng I Sao is awesome in what she achieved but wasn't like Julie really (Not worse or better. Just different). A closer comparison to Julie would probably be the Pirate Anne Bonny though I like to think of her of a combination of both Julie and Cheng wrapped up in Irish and is awesome for her own separate reasons too. Would love to see a series on here about her!
Take Anne Bonny, Julie, and Cheng...and then add royalty to their occupation list and the iron ovaries to stand up to Elizabeth I in her face, and you've got Grace O'Malley (who's gaelic name I am not even going to try and spell here), the ax-wielding Pirate Queen of Ireland.
"A Slightly wild, unhinged plan."'
The best kind of plans.
3:02 If only she'd been around 200 years later, she'd have been good friends with Otto Von Bismarck.
I'm fairly certain her plan was on par with one of Young Bismark's plans.
As he was an extreme conservative, probably not.
they probably would have. IF they where part of the same country. At Otto Von Bisarck's time Germany and France where NOT friends. and I highly dought Bismarck would have wanted to be friends with a Frenchy
Jimmy Kedge yeah, and the fact that well, bisexuals werent looked kindly upon.
Yeah, I don't think they would've been friends more like friendly rivals tbh.
* violently waves pansexual and France flag * *ALLONS ENFANTS DE LA PATRIIIIIE LE JOUR DE GLOIRE EST ARRIVÉ*
I aspire to have this much chaotic energy
"I would hate to be, myself, one of those people in history that's only remembered as being the guy that got stabbed through a shoulder, potentially stuck to a tree, by that lady that pretended to be a nun, who sang opera, that burnt the convent down 'cos that's not a great way to be remembered, let's face it." - Everybody's favorite Gary Brannan, Gary Brannan
If you were Louis-Joseph d'Albert it meant hooking up with her afterwards. And oh yeah, she happened to have been one of the hottest women in all of France in her day, too.
Worth it.
I must say that I love the "L XIV" badge Louis has; because there are too many King Louises in France. XIII is a much different king than XVI and XIX.
XIX != XIX?
I don't remember a XIX being a king, the last L was XVIII
That's because he literally only lasted 20 minutes. I just looked it up xD
There was also a pretender XX
@@alexanderrowley9870 Not quite either since he was never proclaimed. It's like saying Michael II was the last Russian Tsar since Nicholas II abdicated the throne for him, which he abdicated after a day. He's a legitimate pretender, but after Charles X, the King of France was abolished in favor of the King of the French in LP I, who abdicated 18 years later with a 2nd French Republic, which became the 2nd French Empire with Napoleon III who abdicated after 18 years........a lot of abdications.
Hey guys, if you're looking for other incredible figures from a bit later than this period with many of the same very modern persuasions, you guys should check out the Chevalier D'Eon - a gender-ambiguous (right up until their death!) diplomat and dueling spy. Very cool and interesting story here though. Thank you for bringing Julie's story to the forefront!
d'Eon even managed to survive the French Revolution and died of old age. Which for an aristocrat is quite an accomplishment. Even more so for a genderfluid aristocrat.
Yes, the story of how he cuckolded the english embassador in russia is particularly hilarious.
There is a anime about him, don't know how accurate it is just know it exists.
So epic, they've even got their own anime
Douglas Slaughter interesting
She is incredibly badass, I wish she had, had a happier ending, but at least it wasn't as tragic as it could have been, also she needs several movies, TV shows and comic books.
DND adaptions
vazak11 She doesn’t have a known grave, and we don’t know which convent she’s reported to have died in.
For all we know, it’s possible she went into hiding and went to one of the early French colonies in America and wandered around some to get over her past, somehow used the whole convent thing as a cover story, and died of some disease in the Bayou somewhere in Louisiana or some shite.
That bi flag when you said “rise in society”… nice :)
And the lGBTQ surfboard, and 6:25 Julie and her costars make the pan colours!
note julie is not a bismarck she cant always have plans
You dont have to be a Bismark. But you must be a Legend and she sertanly is.
Well she only had the one. But one was enough !
ah ı say bismarck is more of a legend than this girl
and one idea was foolish enough that it worked
napoleon shut up Napoleon! Go back to Elbe!
A strong woman traveling across the country and fighting ? Yeah, welcome to the eurasian steppe
*laughs in tuvan throat singing*
Kebabini Kebabsøn *Imperial Russia Arrives*
Fancy Cat Gaming FCG more like Timur arrives but ok
She is an inspiration to all of us crazy bisexuals (or pansexuals in my case) out there (not to say all of us are crazy, some of us just more so than others and I mean it in no bad way)!
Live fast, die young, and leave a beautiful corpse
One of my d&d character's last name is D'Aubigny
Please tell me they're a bard.
@@thomaskilmer Rogue. But not the bloody assassin type, the flamboyant fencer type.
@@beretperson what is this the secret son or daughter
@@beretperson Just at good. 😂
Daubeny!Daubeny!Daubeny!
Daubeny!Daubeny!
Daubeny!Daubeny!Daubeny!
What about the Chevalier d'Eon in the mid 1700's, sometimes a man, sometimes a woman, and even in death no one was quite sure which?
I actually yelled WHAT several times during this.
For the record, the D&D 5e build I'd use is 14 swords bard, 6 swashbuckler rogue. Point buy at level 1 is variant human (prodigy feat for performance) 11/16/12/10/8/16. Later take tavern brawler for 12 str because you have to be able to punch people in the face sometimes.
7:15 "...pushed things too far."
Now that's a clever joke.
Thank you!
"Julie always has a plan"
Bismarck: "Orly?"
Edit: Julie vs Bismarck Duels, Winner Takes Europe!
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
Bismarck! Bismarck! Bismarck! Bismarck!
Julie! Julie! Julie!
If it involves artillery, I'd go Bismark. If it's rapiers at sunrise, I'm affraid ol' Otto doesn't have much of a chance.
"And that, children, was the bdgining of the end".
Im convinced her life was actually in the dnd world and shes a chaotic neutral bard that split from the party to go on her own adventures and rolled a 20 to seduce every time
Louis the 14th did ballet?! Forget Julie, I'm sticking with the King!
There's a movie about that, called "Le roi danse".
Not gonna lie ballet is fun af
He was also an accomplished musician, he played the back in the day equivalent to the guitar.
wow louie the 14th was more progressive than most people today
the sun King man ...the Sun King .
More like, he cared about one of his family members enough to go against the church, which is some amazing sibling love right there
529 people had their girlfriends stolen and were defeated in a duel by Julie d'Aubigny
OH MY GOD THANK YOU EXTRA CREDITS FOR COVERING THIS HERO ! As a french wlw myself, D'aubigny is one of my favorite historical figures. 20gayteen keeps on giving !
Ah, the original Mary Sue.
(jk please don't kill me)
I wont kill you but I will point out that you would have to severely skew the meaning of "mary sue" in order for it to apply to this woman
Mike Leslie Think about it, if Julie is a fictional character, people will most definitely criticize her story of being ridiculous or non-realistic, but it seems like real life could be more dramatic than stories.
Mike Leslie at least she had training and was educated.
And she had her fair share of people who didn't like her for some real reasons. On top of that, she actually had some real flaws, if you figure a wild lifestyle a flaw.
* kills you*
3:03: Exists*
Bismarck: I’m so proud