Voting in America | From Barkers to Booths | US History | Extra History
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- Voting in America: From Barkers to Booths - Voting can be a bit of an ordeal in America, but that's been true for as long as we've decided to put the chips down on democracy. Before secret ballots and booths, we used to vote loud and proud. Literally. Just yell out the person you wanted to vote for at the carnival. What could possibly go wrong? We talk about all the different voting systems we've tried in America from shouting your vote, to colored slips that were an entire party, to ballot boxes, booths, and even touch on mail-in voting.
Wanna learn more? Swoop on over to @LegalEagle at • Problems with the Elec... to find out about how the Electoral College works... or doesn't.
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fun fact: the famous "eagle cry/screech" is actually a sound made by the red-tailed hawk, real bald eagles sound tragically similar to seagulls.
That was interesting
That was a very fun fact! Thank you!
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
If a giant bald eagle got that size, just imagine the size of a giant harpy eagle from Amazon, the greatest carnivorous eagle in the world...
@@abcdef27669 ... and ask why they're not available to order from Amazon's "dot co dot uck" site.
I'm just stunned by how accurately his stubble is rendered.
U yuh yuh I I yy
it's quite beautiful
The haircut is magnificent as well.
Agreed!
I assume the suit was Indobeano
Im not even American, but a bald eagle named Justice is the second most American thing I've ever heard
what's the first?
I’m curious. What’s the most American thing you’ve ever heard?
@@ANTICENA571 I had a slice of deep-fried cheesecake during a two week work visit to California...so maybe that?
@@Slaeowulf well, homie, pal, my man, have you ever heard of deep-fried butter and would it surprise you to know an american invented it?
@@Slaeowulf that's not even notable. Get back to me when you have some deep fried ice cream on a stick
"And due to an accidental wording in its Constitution, women could also vote in New Jersey"
Yep, sounds like New Jersey.
Everything is legal in new jersey
@@sakanagakyoko New Jersey got bullied by New York so they just want friends
@@ATemplarIGuess I'm a Jerseyan, can confirm :)
@@sakanagakyoko Everything?
Would not be the last time my state stumbled into a progressive policy
I had no idea that people used to just have to publicly declare who they were voting for. I can only imagine how many fights broke out thanks to that system.
simple. you have a gun
Um that's called murder
@@TheDiloEmpire "self defence"
@@TheDiloEmpire No, duels we’re still legal back then
The big issue was if you're boss or landowner (for tenant farmers) had a preferred candidate you had to vote for them or else. Which is why secret ballots are so important.
6:20 “The KKK and other terrorist militias”
Good take
Shortly after the Civil War - that group was one of many similar groups.
By sheer technicality I wouldn't count them as terrorists at that point because the word didn't exist but yes by our standards those f****** were terrorists
@@spartanx9293
"were terrorists"
no they ARE terrorists, they still exist and they still commit terrorist type actions.
@@spartanx9293
That's like saying someone technically can't be called a douchebag because they were born before the word came into use as an insult.
@@CaBarry374 what part of by shear technicaliti did you not understand I don't support the kkk
This would be a rough election if people had to publicly declare their vote
People do in my area with yard signs. It's about 3-to-1 for Trump and I'm in a blue county.
Any election would. People used to sell their vote in the UK and gangs would hang around and beat them if they voted for someone else or just the same situation without money
I don't even wanna think about that scenario. It already looks like its gonna be a rough election with armed militias (3%'ers Proudboys and other like-minded groups) trying to intimidate voters outside the polling places. To all americans out there i wish you the best of luck with getting through this election without bloodshed occurring.
Sweden kinda had a problem with that for a while, even up until 2019, where the ballots weren't exactly private, although not nearly as bad as just going up and declaring who you are voting for before a returning officer.
@@tomjack1000000 Source on that in the UK?
"Women could vote in New Jersey (until they closed the loophole in 1807)."
Of course. Everything is legal in New Jersey.
I see that Hamilton reference
Funny joke
I can confirm that’s true
This is what you’re gonna do. Stand there like a man, mr Eacker right in front of you.
I used to live in New Jersey. License plates contained the text: "Garden State". They should say "Police State".
Me in 2000: Wow, it's never gonna get worse than this election!
Me in 2020: Oh sweet summer child...
and we now have 3 SCOTUS justices who were on Bush's legal team
I had no idea that people used to just have to publicly declare who they were voting for. I can only imagine how many fights broke out thanks to that system.
@@homeschoolingmadeeasy7798 wait, who are the three that were on Bush's legal team
What really grinds my gears are three interlocking gears
Don't you see? They were making a point about the electoral process!
100% agree. I can see the stress if someone tries to turn a gear.
indeed, i hate how common it's used
Yes
Voting is actually....surprisingly...pretty safe and reliable.
Unless you’re from the past, in a third world county, or living in a country governed by a corrupt system. In that case, it’s reliable to the point of which your count will, without hesitation, be completely altered or ignored.
True! I mailed mine in weeks ago, and the state emailed me confirmation a few days later. Safe and Reliable for sure!!
unless you are under certain eastern european dictators who don't care for the election
Unless you use certain electronic systems that are easily tampered with even by chimps (hint: avoid electronic where possible)
@@angry_eck Lukashenko has joined the chat.
It is also worth noting that the Australian vote system was also controversial in the U.S. because, despite it being more private it was a de facto literacy test because the ballot had to be read rather than recognized by color. This sort of disenfranchised the poor of its time (Including newly freed African Americans) because this was before the era of widespread public education.
In fact it was one of the reasons for public education - so people could read the ballot. Now they are dismantling the education system in various places. I guess too many people read the ballot.
I like that point
Third world countries with high illiteracy rates print each party’s or candidate’s logo on the ballot for each office. You’re welcome!
2:42 "new technologies" while showing gears which would not turn as drawn.
Ahahah, that graphic is shown all the time giving those of us who can recognize it a sense of the irony.
... ... ...
StandUpMaths
@@mrmangoberry8394 yus!
Gear 2.0 ; new and improved!
My brain screamed every time they showed that graphic.
Elections in the USA are nuts. The whole process. In Spain, when you turn 18 you automatically are allowed to vote, you don't have to register or anything, you just go with your ID to your local voting station and vote. Also, the elections are always on Sunday.
Imagine having a national ID. Here that’s an extremely controversial issue that for reasons only an American can understand, is not popular.
Crazy huh? Kinda like how Catalans and Basque all live happily under the Madrid government right? Every country has is peculiarities.
It's the same in Mexico. The ID is even completely free, you only need to bring some documents, they take a photo of you and some weeks later you can go pick it up.
@@MilSF1 that has nothing to do with the voting process
@@eamartig technically we already do the social security number
"How's it hanging Chad?"
Dang it, you made me laugh cider up my nose.
Isn't that stuff sticky
3:30 "Everything is legal in New Jersey!"
Soon weed
Everything is legal in Nevada too, but I get the joke
So where can I buy a doomsday weapon?
Except a gun with more than 10 rounds.
So the original Action Park.
I just wanna shout out the artist that did homegirl's dreads at 8:45 . That's great styling.
7:16 soldiers are using magazine-fed bolt action rifles, at this time Prussia was the only country that used a bolt action rifle, in the 1860s the US was still using rifled muskets. Off topic and VERY good video and art, just felt like sharing a cool historical fact
@ALSO-RAN ! yeah but those werent standard by any means, in fact the only lever guns that could have been used during the Civil War was the 1860 Henry and the Spenser
Paper isn't just _believed_ to be more secure than electronic voting, it _is_ more secure. Just look at DEF CON's Voting Village.
Florida in 2000 proved paper votes are just as unreliable.
@@ElBandito Their weird punch-out system was. Usually paper ballots are understood to be a list where you make a cross in the box/circle next to your chosen candidate.
@@rolfs2165 Exactly. Voting machines (including this punch-out system) are a horrible idea.
There were decades of stuffing ballot boxes that challenge your assertion.
There is also how voting for the Oscars is done strictly via paper and counted by hand in rooms where no Internet-accessible devices are allowed. They go to great lengths for voting security (even down to the ballots being split in two and delivered to the Oscars Ceremony in two different routes in the event one of the cars is intercepted and the votes stolen).
Therapist: "LegalEagle riding a legal eagle isn't real, LegalEagle riding a legal eagle can't hurt you."
LegalEagle riding a legal eagle:
2:12 That's not the sound an eagle makes, that's a hawk
"How's it hanging, chad"
Idk whether to laugh or cry at this joke
Yes.
As someone who is named Chad, I basically got war flashbacks
Just curious, What’s the timestamp?
@@ryanjapan3113 8:41
3:32
me: "Everything is legal in new jersey."
OK when the time comes fire your pistol in the air this will put an end to the whole affair
Correct
Except pumping your own gas...
"He must have just destroyed the ring!"
Me: wh...oh nice one.
"It is 1796, and you're going to vote".
(sad black and women noises)
except in New Jersy
chris morgan Everything is legal in New Jersey
69th like.noice
I could not vote
Also add that during this time, poor whites did not have suffrage as well
That one time New Jersey was the bastion of women's Sufferage
@Trashthlete Classic New Jersey tbf
@Trashthlete *highkey
Yup, everything, except ceiling fans oddly enough.
@@Dartowl1 why
@@Wisegirl6521 honestly, I got no clue.
I still won't vote
as a European living in Europe I can't so I won't
they had us in the first half not gonna lie
And yet, it's also your climate they're ruining.
@@ImaginaryMdA Of course. That one anti-American
Somewhere, a member of the FSB is chuckling (at the idea of respecting another country's right to free and fair elections).
@@ImaginaryMdA it’s everyone’s climate being ruined
Anyone come here from Legal Eagle?
You should check out some of their other videos.
@@MrBrainfreeze43 will do 👍
Yeah, but I was running away after seeing the "Vote for Biden" video
Imma go there after this video
@@damiang888 same
the Florida 2000 debacle was a machine problem, not a paper problem
It was a ballot design problem.
It was a mix of both, the machines couldn't read ballots due to the chads
Was it electronic?
Still, there was some controversy over the ballot design.
The 2000 debacle was because punch ballots are a bad idea, just have people fill in a bubble we all know how to do that.
My school day ends in two minutes, so perfect timing!
My school day is going on right now
Mine ends in fourty but I’m going to watch this anyways
I still got 2 hours of school and I’m watching in my lunch break
"Play it close to the vest."
2:22 I really liked the way they slipped in a LOTR reference 😂
First: awesome video!
Second: try adding ft."whoever you're collabing with" at the end of the title.
I'm not an expert or anything but it does get you a better chance of your video showing on random people's feeds😃😘
@Mumfy Oh good to know.
Seeing LegalEagle here was a pleasant surprise
1:39 Why is your cat driving and how did she park so bad to get so many?
"Away home, Justice!" I love LE.
A Crossover between two of my favorite channels!!! Yes! And even in Cartoon form, that suit and tie are top notch.
And a perfect topic for them to collaborate on!
2:13 - that's a red-tailed hawk sound, would be nice to use actual eagle sounds to help educate people on how a bald eagle actually sounds :)
@Josh Field Well, that's what was picked as the national bird, so that's what US is stuck with until that's changed or someone invents a different sounding bald eagle.
Everybody used to vote while intoxicated? That explains why politics has always been screwed up.
before the US, a young man tried to run on policies as an upstanding candidate for the House of Burgesses and he lost terribly--40 to 271. The next time he offered to buy anyone who voted for him alcohol and won with 331 votes. That young man was George Washington.
@@homeschoolingmadeeasy7798 That is the U.S in a nutshell
damn guys our voting system is so wack right now they had to get extra credits involved
Their other parties in america but when you vote it only dem and gop and worst the mainstream media don't talk about them
donald trump : *wistles as he dies of coronavirus since he voted*
What isn't wack about the USA? The wars? The environment? The crumbling infrastructure?
Thanks for calling the kkk terrorist. Even today people don't call terrorist terrorist, like how the terrorist who tried to kidnap Governor Whitmore where called alt right militias not alt right terrorist, which is what they are.
Or the antifa communist trying to burn down cities to push a political narrative via force......
Yea, just like we ain’t call antifa terrorists when they are.
@@quickshot4050 Both sides have their terrorist elements, but from my knowledge, the right often has more terrorist incidents compared to the left.
@@khodexus4963 the only cities burning down are due to fires from some yt people's gender reveal.
The protests have died down since August, and maybe you should bring up what caused all the civil unrest when referencing the protests.
@@mattsw104 “the only fires are from parties”..... I guess the video evidence of blm and antifa chucking Molotov cocktails in business windows or hurling IED’s at the Portland courthouse are just made up then. All the evidence of their terroristic activity must be fabricated because you said so. And you are obviously more knowledgeable then the locals in the town with cameras and smartphones or the police giving statements. After all, you watch CNN.
"Jefferson or..."
Man, I'm so fucked in the head when I'm surprised that didn't end with "Burr"
An unlikely yet perfectly matched colab.
I think hands down you have the best channel on TH-cam. This is what educational videos are supposed to be.
Sadly I am not of age to vote for this election, but I will be dedicating my time being a Poll Manager for my precinct!
3:05 Maine was actually part of Massachusetts until the Missouri compromise
"Everything is legal in New Jersey"
Mwah! Goodnight, everybody!
That's a funky ballot box. In Canada, we still use paper slips and a cardboard box. Your ballot was a tear off piece with a number that corresponds to the book the ballot came from. The rip off part and the book are used to confirm that there are the right number of ballots in the box.
People criticize the electoral college for being “undemocratic” as if that’s not the point
I'm from North Carolina where, in living memory, there used to be a tradition in local elections where an event would be thrown where both candidates are invited, stages are set up on opposite sides of the space, and they give their stump speeches - all while their staffers served free barbecue, and of course you're going within earshot of both speeches to test who has the better barbecue, and of course they both hire the best cook they can so as to entice you to listen more to theirs.
I want that to make a comeback, although if it does I'm bringing earplugs.
Huh. That sounds like a great idea. Remind me to pitch this for midterms this year
I love early American history. I'd include the hodanashoni confederation in that.
Haudenosaunee, but points for trying.
You're a crisp Tuesday morning. You don't know me! YOU AREN'T MY REAL DAD!!!
The crossover I didn't know I needed.
Hold up, Legal Eagle dropping in on an EH video? That’s gonna be a thumbs up from me.
Same here. I am a big fan of his work
Extra credits apeared in legal eagal's new video too
@@Jay-qe8kx Why yes Matt did. It was a good day for my Subscriptions tab.
He just showed up on one of Lindsay Ellis' videos, too :)
All (?) Voting in Oregon is done by mail. It's fantastic and nobody has made any issues until now.
As a computer engineer, I can't think of a proper way how you could vote digitally whilst guaranteeing the fundamental principle of elections: Secrecy/Confidentially and Confirmability... In principle: Everyone needs to be able to verify that the vote was done correctly without mistakes or fraud. And this needs to be possible without needing every voter to disclose what he voted for...
The double-edged sword of the secret ballot is while it does offer privacy to the voter without necessarily the guarantee of security from political-ideological reprisals based on one's candidate selection, this selfsame method of not recording vote result alongside voter identity nor public disclosing the identity of the voter of the vote in question makes verification of any ballot nonobjective and the process susceptible to such forms of voter fraud as ballot-stuffing, perfidious declaration of valid ballots being declared invalid, blank ballots being filled out after being cast, as well as undercounting and overcounting, especially if the tally of the cast votes is conducted away from public observation.
@@TheeBohemian In good democratic systems you can be in the voting office the whole day. You can see the empty boxes in the morning before they get sealed and you can see how they are sorted and counted. If you had enough people, you could observe the process in every office and thus you would detect any attempt of manipulation.
@@fr89k Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
@@TheeBohemian That's the point: Everyone who wants to do it can observe the elections. You are only limited by the fact that you can't be in all voting offices at the same time. However, if you find enough like-minded and trustworthy people you can create your own election observing network and check the procedure as exhaustive as you have men or women available...
Anyone notice that the Union Soldiers are using Bolt Action rifles.
I love mythology, history and politics. Thank you extra credits team for making this understandable for my confused family that no idea what I’m talking about.
7:25 huh. Sounds oddly modern. Weird
Not like a certain orange man said that even though it is easily proven fake about what he says and is going through multiple lawsuits
I think it would be cool if you guys marked the last video in each mini series in the thumbnail or title. I like to wait for all the videos in a series to come out before I watch them and I usually can't tell when it's over except by waiting a month or so after the last episode to see if any more come out. I love extra history, I just have a bad memory and like to get the whole story at once.
0:48 IS THAT RENE (PAPILOU) FROM THE FRENCH ANIMATED SERIES LES GRANDES GRANDES VACANCES?!?!?!?!?!?!??!? (The Long Long Summer)
Who knows?
Edit at least 2 people /\ \/
Oh, a fan of this show ? Good.
Houlà, tu vas chercher loin -_-'
... this video was amazing. Well done with LegalEagle, I'll be going there next.
That gear drawing just hurts me on an engineering level
The only thing wrong with this are the Union Soldiers rifles. They look like Moisan Nagants or just bolt action rifles. Just saying.
Man you could have at least used an actual bald eagle's seagull squawk instead of some hawk cry :V
I appreciated this alot, and pairs well with the revived Extra Politics series.
I feel kinda good watching my favorite series on the same day it is uploaded!
Random fact, the first US election to have over 50% turnout was the election of 1820
Holy shit Eagle's cartoon self is simply amazing
Hang on, an accidental wording in the New Jersey constitution allowed women to vote...? I NEED to know the background there!
that LOTR gag was amazing
1:21 pardon me is that Aaron Burr, sir
As someone who lives in Washington State where we've voted by mail for about a decade and a half now (and where absentee ballots have been completely normal for three decades), all the efforts by the Republicans to undermine mail-in voting has been completely bonkers and pretty transparently just another attempt to put their thumb on the scales by trying to make sure as few votes as possible are actually counted.
"...and, due to an accidental wording in its constitution, women could also vote in New Jersey."
Everything is legal in New Jersey.
this was extremely fun to learn about even though I love history I don't think I ever gave much thought to the history of voting but man was it utterly fascinating so thanks for this!
You actually continued the last video discussion. I congrat you for this
I'm a bit disappointed that you mention problems with paper ballots, when the problems of digital voting are much more serious
Exactly. Never forget Broward County
Especially since the one criticism offered with paper (hanging chads) isn't actually a problem with paper at all but, rather, with electronic counting machines. Candidate-observed manual counting totally works, yo.
@@twistedtachyon5877 Candidates should not observe the counting, they should appoint scrutineers to observe on their behalf!
Extra Credit for the Legal Eagle tie in! Much love!
The Lord of the rings reference made me super happy:)
Also great video thank you ❤️
8:41 Heh, love the hanging chad joke
Minor nitpick: that's not what a bald eagle sounds like.
Thanks for the birthday present guys!
A little Civil War trivia: 7:13 the Union troops were so advanced technologically that they were issued rifles not yet invented!
Extra credits, I love, love, love your videos, but as a mechanical engineer I just have to say this: Please do not draw three gears that each mesh with the other two. Gears in that configuration wouldn't work!
I'm so happy that Legel Eagle has finally colabed with Extra Credits.
Those three gears in a triangle image always makes me smile. Gears set up this way are of course frozen. Turn one clockwise, and the other two will try to turn counter-clockwise, which ain't possible since they need to turn opposite to each other.
this is interesting information. thank you for walking viewers through this history.
2:11
"do yuo no de wae?"
Legal Eagle! The crossover I never knew that I wanted.
Great I have Act Raisers theme stuck in my head now
Extra Credits needs a discord server
I’m Irish so I’m kinda confused 😐
Just how american voting system is have always been kinda of mess up that all
America dumb that’s all you need to know friend
@@nosuslinks2935 you do realize the uk has the same system right?
@@nosuslinks2935 We got a funny guy over here, he said America bad so original
@@gingerale2131 I’m not referring to the actual system I’m referring to how corrupt our shit is lol
Sorry for not specifying
Legal eagle was just with Dr.Mike and now he's here with Extra Credits lol
Eyyy! Im covering the third election in school right now, this is very helpful!
I love how those gears are set/drawn so that they won't remotely work.
1 week to go!
Great video. I am not from the US and it was quite interesting to learn all those things about how people voted back in the day.
And I really like the LeagleEagle cameo, too. He does some good stuff.
A timely piece.
Nice content.
6:38, This picture made me laugh so hard xD
And he came in...on an Eagle named Justice...The Jury finds for Legal Eagle for most awesome cameo.