First Start in 16 Years!!! 1973 BMW 2002

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ค. 2024
  • We got this BMW running that's been sitting for 16 years! In the first part we just show what we did to get this old BMW from not running for years to firing back up. We started with poring oil over the valves and trying to lubricate everything. We then decided we would turn the motor over by hand to lubricate everything. Doing that helped us prevent any damage from poor lubrication. We then flushed out the fluids and put new fluids in. We tried starting the car after that but it was still having a hard time. Thats when we decided to use a can of starter fluid and sure enough the car fired up. once we had it running everything went smooth. We let the car run and get warm. Once the car warmed up we wanted to turn if off and ran into the issue of the car not turning of. So we figured we can just pull the spark plugs and try to let it die that way. To our surprise pulling the sparkplugs out did not stop this wild motor. I am still not sure how it was running with out the motor. So we went to the next logical step was to get rid of the oxygen. So we wrapped the carb with a cloth to kill the car. Over all this was a great way to get the car started. Our next plan is to slowly start making the car road worthy and mechanically sound. Stay tuned for more frequent updates on this project coming this summer 2018
    Music Credit:
    Safakash - Tiny Tempo
    DJ Quads - Soul

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  • @alansenzaki4609
    @alansenzaki4609 6 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    thats a valuable car and highly collectable. it was and is classic!

    • @jefryduran543
      @jefryduran543 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is water blue also or was it the sky ?

  • @xMETALHEART137x
    @xMETALHEART137x 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    probably the best BMW motor (M10). ... 470,000km and I'm still traveling!

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think we only have 50k on our motor

  • @jimftr
    @jimftr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God those 2002's are such beautiful cars, at least in my opinion, i would so love to own one.

  • @mariusberger3297
    @mariusberger3297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God I want one of these! The coolest classic car to own by far!

  • @k.m.h.1346
    @k.m.h.1346 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I Love this video. I'm about to start my golf 2 first time in 7 years

  • @bombakdik
    @bombakdik 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vid!
    Nice way of handling a start up after so many years. Thanks!
    Greetings from Belgium!

  • @collhandluke9491
    @collhandluke9491 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Today's BMW models will not last as many years as 2002. I owned 316 in 1995. At present 318 E 46. It's great that you have launched such a beautiful classic with your soul. Greetings from Poland. You are awesome :)

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks bro! Appreciate the support! Lots more to come on this project :)

    • @diptyagangga3257
      @diptyagangga3257 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      i have 318i e46 too, very clumsy performance but m43tu very good durable engine and cheap to maintain.. greetings from indonesia

  • @enriquelopez9124
    @enriquelopez9124 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When I see those round tailights, I woukd normally associate it with a 67 or 69 model 2002, the 73 till76 or 77 model had the square tailights, it looks good, nice to see annother classic on the road again.

  • @tmelitta51
    @tmelitta51 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is like watching a re-run of Dan Akroyd and Steve Martin's Wild and Crazy Guys! Loved it You guys a re crazy...without trying

  • @10mm
    @10mm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job! Malaga is the best color for our cars. Awesome seeing other people making 2002 content. Hit me up if you ever want to go efi or turbo!

  • @Ruslanurie
    @Ruslanurie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This old car has mind and feelings and lives by itself ;)

  • @illcitizen
    @illcitizen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Incredibly clean engine inside!

    • @vegarstuen190
      @vegarstuen190 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      too clean, made me think it's fake and that it has already been started before the video was made.

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We think it was rebuilt before the guy put it in storage. or it actualy has 50k miles on it

  • @jdrancho1864
    @jdrancho1864 6 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    Ahh, the good old days, when you could work on a BMW without first removing a bunch of extra stuff, using a basic set of hand tools from the hardware store.

    • @CNMTx-gc4zw
      @CNMTx-gc4zw 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      jd rancho and not needing a levels of electronic to do something xd

    • @romanquinn3258
      @romanquinn3258 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha tell me about it I’m a tech for them! It’s crazy!!

    • @herbienbrian2
      @herbienbrian2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My e36 is a 95, I just did a manual swap with hand tools from Harbor Freight

  • @mariofalfan2997
    @mariofalfan2997 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys are awesome!

  • @Lt_dangle
    @Lt_dangle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome guys

  • @Underappreciatedclassics
    @Underappreciatedclassics 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice rescue, may it see many years more of the open road

  • @massacredh
    @massacredh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    ohh, the car of my dreams 2002 .... nice video, grettings from Sud Americas , Chile . villa alemana city

  • @giberish9
    @giberish9 6 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    This is why some older cars need premium fuel. They form excessive amounts of carbon and start dieseling. Heard carbon buildup was such a big issue back it the 70s and 80s for BMW, they made a special sand blasting tool to blast crushed walnut through the head to avoid a teardown. Whatever crushed walnut left in the cylinder would be harmlessly burned up after starting. That's what I was told by a man that serviced them about 40 years ago.

    • @concernedcitizen8665
      @concernedcitizen8665 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Actually, pouring water down the intake was the service secret sauce. Advanced users would route a window washer line into the intake, hit the freeway, and apply water/alochol mixture 50/50.

    • @bpastorb
      @bpastorb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @giberish9 The walnut blasting fact is definitely true, i've heard the same thing. Funny enough this is an even bigger problem on the newer direct-inject turbocharged engines, even when run strictly on premium gas/pretrol. The n54 motors are getting to the mileage where they have enough build up in the intake valves/ports to cause a performance issue, in which the cars no longer have 'the same pep'. Many owners of turbo e90 are having their intake valves/ports cleaned this way. Its also only a temporary fix, as the problem is inherent in the design. Some are reporting this problem at 100,000 miles or even less!

    • @vegarstuen190
      @vegarstuen190 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      NOT quite right, we have to make sure it does not get into the cylinder by making sure the valves are closed.

    • @PatricioGarcia1973
      @PatricioGarcia1973 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Muy bueno

  • @jannplanken
    @jannplanken 6 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    IDubzz lost brother?

    • @keeevin5412
      @keeevin5412 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      jannplanken omg you right

  • @davidviner4932
    @davidviner4932 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys

  • @001wt
    @001wt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done !! Guys !!

  • @ToDoGoodWill
    @ToDoGoodWill 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s so funny when you said drive fast with that extra clip

  • @carslover3509
    @carslover3509 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    great work

  • @eddieds312
    @eddieds312 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks like a fun project

  • @obey2018
    @obey2018 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job

  • @blakebridges8907
    @blakebridges8907 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    my fav bmw EVER

  • @classlessbozo317
    @classlessbozo317 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds great

  • @fbcbxcfb
    @fbcbxcfb 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    idubbbz loves cars, amazing

  • @antoniodefaria9942
    @antoniodefaria9942 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    pretty cool guys.

  • @monthonvallsri1
    @monthonvallsri1 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    you rock man

  • @pharm1095
    @pharm1095 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aye these guys are in washington nice!

  • @user-so5wy9jl1h
    @user-so5wy9jl1h 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    BMW 2002 is a very good car

  • @shb3395
    @shb3395 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Also, at 9:30; it's called "dieseling" your engine is experiencing too much heat... Causing your gasoline engine to run (in reverse rotation) off of compression from the fumes leftover in the combustion chamber. No spark needed to run on compression, just like a diesel engine.

  • @danai1002
    @danai1002 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Plz take care this car
    Good job :)

  • @cocobermudez7881
    @cocobermudez7881 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    good stuff!

  • @Capt.Panayotov
    @Capt.Panayotov 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video! Earned yourself a new subscriber 😀

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mr. Hoonigan Thanks for subbing brother!

  • @jessman1004
    @jessman1004 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    well done boys

  • @ralfdaniel128
    @ralfdaniel128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanxx...for restauration
    Dreamcar...
    ...called..Porschekiller
    From Germany...Berlin

  • @vjprofan
    @vjprofan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the intro :)

  • @jorgebolanosshaw6984
    @jorgebolanosshaw6984 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice car

  • @douglaswells2739
    @douglaswells2739 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had that same year 2002 in the same Malaga red paint. Was rolled by a drug dealer and got it at auction for $900 in 1983. Had a Weber and that same air cleaner. Fun cars but don't miss it one bit.

  • @jeancharlesrabaux5658
    @jeancharlesrabaux5658 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Verie good cars 👍👌✌💕

  • @igorgusar2181
    @igorgusar2181 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ай Женя! крута в тебе тачка! 😎

  • @hydrex3835
    @hydrex3835 7 ปีที่แล้ว +131

    When the engine didnt stop, why dont u put it in gear and release the clutch?

    • @bombelo40390
      @bombelo40390 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      because most of Americans just know automatic gear...lol.

    • @michellehobbs1873
      @michellehobbs1873 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      It’s to easy

    • @scottstephen3125
      @scottstephen3125 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bombelo40390 yip!

    • @herbienbrian2
      @herbienbrian2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      In most people's minds they would expect the car to take off

    • @fghjfghgj
      @fghjfghgj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      or you could just disconnect the battery you fucktards

  • @viki2838
    @viki2838 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice and funny video

  • @StewartMotoring
    @StewartMotoring 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet vid, can't believe it kept running lmao

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea that was a shock for us as well haha. Now that we are further in the project I think this was because of the carburetor that kept supplying the fuel. Btw you have a sweet Z. I just actually watched your video on repairing the dash. I think we will need to do that eventually as well. We have a few cracks in it.

  • @philipgrobler7253
    @philipgrobler7253 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This car is remarkably clean for a car that stood for 16 years. I am starting to think this video is bullshit or it is a huge thumbs up for BMW build quality!!! Now is the time to shoe horn an E46 M3 engine under the hood and do a brake and suspension swop ...

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      it was in storage for 16 years, and it only has 50k miles on it. basicly a barn find haha

  • @CRAZYRUSTYVW
    @CRAZYRUSTYVW 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Carbs nice and rich over run ahahah I thought it was rich when it was idling first start up

  • @user-oj5yj8tf9e
    @user-oj5yj8tf9e 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Да он гонит!Она пару месяцев стояла всего а не 16 лет☝️

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      haha we found this car at a storage unit. The guy had it in his garage for 16 years

  • @ZOKA__
    @ZOKA__ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lowkey this channel gonna blow up someday soon

    • @abc-ni9uw
      @abc-ni9uw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea 3.3k subs lol and Kim not one of em.

  • @ottofischer9574
    @ottofischer9574 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Car

  • @giberish9
    @giberish9 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. I heard those cars had major issues with carbon buildup on the valves, but never knew it could diesel that bad because of it. Still impressive. Trying to remember if the carbon issue was worse on the 2002TII

  • @robrieddo
    @robrieddo 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had a BMW 2002 in the late 1980`s as a winter car, to protect my 1976 Celica from ice and snow. This car was good fun, although no comfort,rel. high fuel consumption and loud....3000rpm@ 100km/h.......

    • @chuckholmes9951
      @chuckholmes9951 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I put a five speed into mine and it gets 30 mpg at 70 mph on premium gasoline. Will do a hundred in 3rd and the engine is modified with a reground cam shaft.

  • @towallomeesgel1703
    @towallomeesgel1703 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 2002 sat for 2 years and I had to do a water pump, and the carburetor needed to be rebuilt. You should do a valve adjustment.

  • @hiflor1275
    @hiflor1275 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eh you should take 4 th Gear and Car engine is off, from this you can build insane retro bmw 🤩

  • @shb3395
    @shb3395 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hahaha, the super timid approach to spraying fluid in the carb at 5:55....

    • @jdrancho1864
      @jdrancho1864 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They less the better. There is a lot of damage you can do to an engine due to uncontrolled combustion, very much like the run-on dieseling after they turned it off.

  • @costi2596
    @costi2596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Value of this car is bigger than a new series 5.

  • @karimtv2
    @karimtv2 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    2002 one of my fav models !

  • @nathanielallen865
    @nathanielallen865 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you don't have love for a 2002, it's like telling Suge Knight you hate Death Row!

  • @anders949494
    @anders949494 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    dident know idubbbz worked on cars

  • @youcf5182
    @youcf5182 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    M10 😍😍😍😍👍👍👍

  • @ehlingerdidier296
    @ehlingerdidier296 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    crazy babys

  • @GeDoBa
    @GeDoBa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Drive fast!" 8:34. Don't push the brake in a curve, but pull down the gas pedal to produce oversteering in the middle of the curve!

  • @user-dz3fo4wl8x
    @user-dz3fo4wl8x 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo u guys forgot about the spark plugs 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️😂🤣🤣 that’s a nice car thoughhh

  • @MyMuschilover
    @MyMuschilover 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Engine looks fairly "fresh", or at least the head. I would do a compression check on this, could be that it has higher compression internals and a stock cam. All this and low octane (old?) gas will make it diesel. Normal m10 will push 140-180psi.

  • @2cvaroundtheworld191
    @2cvaroundtheworld191 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    😎 Cool

  • @6ford9
    @6ford9 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gonna need rod bearings after that diesel moment

  • @stewjuro6989
    @stewjuro6989 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i hav one too da cool little rockets

  • @dingleberry2848
    @dingleberry2848 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:09 khm it smells like clutch :D

  • @hrn041
    @hrn041 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍

  • @madcarew.3256
    @madcarew.3256 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    had 1 same colour same year later rear lights single webber I must have been mad to sell it!

  • @Mixz1890
    @Mixz1890 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It sounded like you had a major vacuum leak - probably crankcase ventilation...

  • @CSSSOLIVEIRA
    @CSSSOLIVEIRA 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Curious horizontal spark plugs...

  • @Swordie100
    @Swordie100 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing!

  • @joegallardo9784
    @joegallardo9784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Brah!
    You still have the car I would to buy it from you brah!

  • @dietershobbypakanal
    @dietershobbypakanal 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow a cool car i like the old bmw... need more oktane the the car engine stops by turn off...

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dieter Müller We changed the gas, and got new jets and that fixed the problem!

  • @CNMTx-gc4zw
    @CNMTx-gc4zw 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    73's car showing technical problems... Well thats innovation that long ago

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      C1N3M4T1x the days you could work on a BMW without taking half the engine apart :D

  • @biilc7594
    @biilc7594 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when starting a car that hasn't been running in years spray oil in the cylinder , were the plug was ,let sit over night. also draine fuel tank ,new gas

    • @chuckholmes9951
      @chuckholmes9951 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marvel Mystery oil is good for cylinders. I'd also look into the tank after emptying to check condition of metal innards.

  • @user-oj5yj8tf9e
    @user-oj5yj8tf9e 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Зажигание настройте!

  • @aweeka3
    @aweeka3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome video guys. I was dying when you couldn't turn the engine off!! What was happening?

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nate Delage Lol thanks man! It was a lot of fun! It could be two things. Either it was way too hot and causing the gas to combust by itself when the pistons go up. Or the timing is off and it's causing fuel to keep coming in at the wrong time. Something we definitely need to fix. 😂

    • @mrt7152
      @mrt7152 7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      The engine kept on running after you turn it of because it didn't run for long time. Thru the years dirt and carbon accumulated in the combustion chamber and this starts glowing and ignites the fuel mixture. I have worked a lot with old 02 bmw and had it happen to me too a few times. Nothing to worry about, this usually go's away after a long and sporty drive. Or you could lift the head and clean it. What I did notice is that under the head cover the engine looked really clean a good sign that the engine is really fresh. You have a really nice car here for restoration. And please don't do anything stupid with it like big fenders and spoilers. These cars look best all original with European bumpers and lowered 1 inch.
      And that type of engine is one of the most reliable engines of BMW it is so strong that BMW used this engine in there F1 cars in the 80's and squeezing 1500hp out of it. Good luck with the 2002!

    • @Financmajster
      @Financmajster 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      you are right, the M10 is very strong, my mate has a Turbo E30 with an M10, 300hp on stock engine no problems

  • @alyckmiles3454
    @alyckmiles3454 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oregon PNW wya

  • @reinhardeder8268
    @reinhardeder8268 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    well,..... nothing to Add the video speaks for it self

  • @valvespercylinder2910
    @valvespercylinder2910 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    restore it. 2002s are rare asf

  • @berendtwohl-bruhn4668
    @berendtwohl-bruhn4668 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Were is the p?

  • @shafentahsin5177
    @shafentahsin5177 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I just got an '02 and my brakes keep seizing too! How did you fix yours? I changed calipers, lines and pads no luck.

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Shafen Tahsin We bled them and that didn't do all that much. We ended up spraying penetrating fluid on the disks as we drove slowly and it freed them up. If you changed the calipers and lines, maybe it's an issue with the master cylinder? I plan to rebuild them or maybe get e21 calipers.

    • @youremostwelcome
      @youremostwelcome 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Do yours seize up after a bit of driving? Good way to check if the master cylinder needs work if they're sticking on once hot is to throw a bottle/bucket of cold water on the master cylinder and see if they un-stick. Worked well on my M535.

    • @chuckholmes9951
      @chuckholmes9951 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best and safest to change wheel calipers, wheel cylinders and master cylinder at the same time when things are sticking. I did it all and it was the master cylinder. Make sure none of the steel lines have any kinks and that rubber types of lines have not swelled internally sealing of transfer of fluid. I've seen it all. Also make sure E-brake is releasing. I don't apply E-brake when vehicles are stored. They seem to always melt to the drum over extended periods of time. Bought my 1970 and power breaks did not work. Had the booster rebuilt and they still didn't work. One way valve in vacuum booster line had been reversed! Also open choke and butterfly valves all the way when spraying starter fluid into the engine before starting.

  •  6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahaha Nice vid guys! ;D

  • @nikolaroma
    @nikolaroma 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    still faster than my 2017 114d

  • @davidspeer8230
    @davidspeer8230 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Sounds like the timing is off,

  • @RUfromthe40s
    @RUfromthe40s 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    if you try started the car with the first battery it would burn all the cables ,i had one stoped around twenty years ,and it started in the second turn of the engine

  • @caribbeancarchannel2
    @caribbeancarchannel2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Throw away the mirror and this airfilter and Replace Them by genuine parts. BMW Mobile Tradition in Munich has Them all

  • @heinz490
    @heinz490 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hmm the valves that is rocker arms they would be lubed in 15 sec the normal way

  • @user-oj5yj8tf9e
    @user-oj5yj8tf9e 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    И антифриз они слили с нее свежий!☝️

  • @chevyesteller3245
    @chevyesteller3245 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Que tal muchachos de donde son?

  • @herbienbrian2
    @herbienbrian2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looks like it had a rebuilt motor before it was put away

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      yea we did not expect the head to look so good when we took off the cover

  • @gpowerdragon9852
    @gpowerdragon9852 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8.28 maybe you can unlock the handbrake or pull off the wheel and give the hammer whack on the drums not the disc that's seems not so good to hit

  • @realdfprr
    @realdfprr 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wollah Meh it's going to start!

  • @darrendegroodt6276
    @darrendegroodt6276 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How much did you pay for it ?

  • @okussidenote3261
    @okussidenote3261 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any updates on the 2002? I'm working on my 72' TII RIGHT NOW!!

    • @pnwproject4653
      @pnwproject4653  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Okus Sidenote That's awesome! Lots of updates! Coming soon! Subscribe! :)

    • @okussidenote3261
      @okussidenote3261 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      subscribed! The more detail the better! I know there are lots of 2 owners that would love to see some in-depth how to videos!!

  • @percdestroyer6911
    @percdestroyer6911 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your a Canadian Idubbbz

  • @Tenkaichibudokai22
    @Tenkaichibudokai22 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An m10 will always start.

    • @fraser9331
      @fraser9331 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      not for arsenal