Just bought and installed a new Steel Legend x670e, 7800x3d, and 7900 xt and couldn't be happier. Thanks for the info and awesome content. God bless. Jesus loves you!
Thanks for sharing the experience. I built 2 AM5 systems recently, yes, ton of the problems. I am not good at vlog. We need this kind of information. Also get some media attention that should pressure AMD or board vendors to fix those issues.
I definitely understand your attachment to Asus boards. In my experience of building PCs the motherboard brand seems to be one of the things builders tend to go back to again and again if they have good experiences early on. Your affinity for Asus boards are the same for me with MSI boards. I just love them from having so many in the past and the MSI BIOS I can navigate it with my eyes closed at this point. The only other board brand that I have used other than MSI is Gigabyte, so I definitely understand where you are coming from.
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a question: Where do you get that red piece you use as a cover for the CPU, I mean I know is not a CPU cover, but I don't know the name, but looks nice and very practical, is that coming apart, or with the mobo, CPU, cooler or case? I did my research but without any success at all.
Hey nice video man! Excited to see someone else giving asrock a chance, they’ve definitely come a long way in the pat few years and i really love a lot of their products especially their 7900xtx’s, beating out some of the other top of the line partners for amd in terms of board design, pcb, and vrms. Their motherboards are also priced super well for what they offer and their b650 hdv m.2 which is like 125 dollars is easily one of the best budget motherboards for up to 7800x3d. Although their bios / overall high end OC features may not be up there entirely with the big brands their budget and mid range is amazing
Got my c70 case, MSI X570-A Pro, Ryzen 9 5900X, 64GB (4 x 16 DDR4 3200) Corsair Vengeance RGB (all colors same - light blue marque pattern). The Corsair iCUE H100 Capellix does fit in the C70 case. CPU temsp are quite cool under load - never above 80F in Aida64 stress test. Got a Nvidia 3090FE for video. Got three Asus monitors in surround view. May need to modify the case to replace the power button.
How do you find the airflow with the case? Got this case with my first pc (hand me down from someone that was built almost a decade ago) and i swapped to a different case a little while ago but im loving this case again and want to switch back. My setup is an i9 13900 with a 240mm aio and a 7900xtx and I'd be switching to it from a cooler master h500 which im sure has much better airflow. I want to get new front case fans for it and need to know if using a bottom fan is an absolute must.
Do you have a 3D printer? I'm dialing in a design to replace the 5.25" bays with an additional fan bay. It has a front hex mesh that matches the bottom.
I always loved that case. One thing I noticed is you didn't do a test of the motherboard before putting it in? And a long time ago I read where ASRock was affiliated with Asus but is also its own company? When Ryzen first gen came out the most popular board seemed to be the Taichi by ASRock. The build looks great!
is your 4090 running at pcie 4.0 x16 or x8? i have the same motherboard and a 4080 super and now my 4090 have the same boot issues with taking several tries to boot up and i realized today that no matter what settings i use my 4090 is only on pcie 4.0 x8
Thanks for the mini shoutout. Sorry to hear you had so many problems with that board. I use those same usb ports and haven't had any issues, although I don't even come close to using all of the ports at the same time. Perhaps that was just more than that chipset can handle? One thing I did notice is that the chipset can run pretty hot with multiple usb and nvme drives, and if you combine that with the small heatsink and absolutely no airflow (since it's blocked by the gpu) it could potentially cause those issues. Hope the Asrock board continues to serve you well!
Just got a Steel Legend and 7800X3D for myself, will be building it this weekend when the RAM comes in. Any advice/suggestions on the BIOS setup? I've messaged the company that makes the RAM I am getting (64Gb 2x32 from TeamGroup), and AsRock as well, and confirmed the RAM will work fine. Not looking to overclock anything, just want it to run stable and at 'maximum non-overclocked' performance, if that makes sense.
There's probably some small things that can be enabled without OC, but I'm afraid I'm still very new to the world of AMD boards so most of my settings are stock. Don't forget to update BIOS before you change anything. I have EXPO enabled and I used the included fan tuner on the motherboard to tweak the fan curves. I also enabled some of the power settings so my USBs and RGB stay off when the PC is off. Thats about it!
Hey there, love your timelapse. I have a similar build as yours but I'm facing with red CPU and RAM indicators on my mobo and it's not going in post and I'm not sure why. Were there any other BTS steps you've done before heading to the BIOS?
Has the steel legend still been very good so far? Currently deciding between it and an Aorus Elite AX (both X670) for my own 7800x3d build, and want something very reliable and stable.
Hi, I just watch your video and I would like to ask you about your experience with this mobo and cpu when u first boot it up. Did you update the bios immediately or did you install windows first? I just bought this mobo, with the same cpu and RAM sticks, but i dunno if I should do a flashback bios update, or install windows and after update the bios. Also, do you remeber which bios version the board came with? I just bought the mobo and I'm a little concerned with all the 7800x3d burning up thing
I installed windows first, then did the BIOS update. I don't remember which BIOS version it shipped with, but it was definitely not close to recent. Since the issue with the 7800x3D revolved around using the SOC voltage on EXPO, as long as you run stock settings until you update your BIOS, you'll be fine.
MSI x670e Tomahawk has been super solid for me. It was launched only this spring, later than other boards, and maybe it does not have those issues that early boards do. Memory overclocking and overall stability has been the best of any boards I've tried, and I've tried a few AM5 ones. My little 7600 has been doing wonders on it, 4800Mhz Hynix OEM RAM running at 6400Mhz with nice timings, and boosting comfortably to 7600x frequency levels. With that RAM and at that frequency is't faster than 5800x3d in almost everything. Having said that, I still think the board is overpriced for what it is at 300$. (350 here where I live), but that can be said about every AM5 and recent 1700 boards, unfortunately.
Yeah! I like MSI so I definitely gave the Tomahawk a look. Sadly with only 6 USB ports it would have been identical to the amount of working ports on my ASUS, so it wasn't the right fit for me.
@@Badger8th Great to hear! One thing I've noticed about mid- and upper-tier boards is they've started to put the cmos battery under rear i/o cover. If the battery went bad, you'd literally have to pull your motherboard out of the case, remove the back plate, and remove the top i/o cover to get to it. On top of that, the battery itself is wired and has its own connector to the board, so chances are you don't have one of those lying around. No thanks. Another thing they've started doing is not providing an optical port for audio. My computer's audio is connected to my stereo and that's the connection I use. Anyway, thanks for the response. I just might be a first-time Asrock owner.
I did the same thing except I swapped from Asus X670e TUF to Asrock X670E pro RS which is basically the same board save for some differences in usb ports and abit more sata. Also really happy with the Asrock board. Bios is simple but clear and its been running flawlessly Small question: Are the error bootup leds on the steel legend color coded or they all red like mine?
has the pc overall been going well? I just recently built a pc with a Apevia Crusader chassis, with a X670E Steel Legend, replacing the X570 Steel Legend after that chipset fan grinded to a halt.
Man PC building is fun until it isn't right! I way overspent on the x670 Gene because I love the high end mATX boards going back to the x58 Gene. The lates bios for it has been working fine with a 7700x and 6000 c30 ram. The PCIE lane thing with using all your m.2s disabling either some PCIE 16 lanes or losing sata ports has been a thing for a while now. Power users have lamented that a true HEDT platform hasn't come out since Threadripper on AMD with all its PCIE lanes and x299 on Intel. Both were super expensive of course and the also pretty expensive 'consumer' CPUs such as AM5 and LGA 1700 all have fewer lanes available while actually performing better in a lot of tasks being newer etc etc.
I don't know much about the Taichi, but I can tell you I'm very happy with my Steel Legend purchase. Still no issues and the latest BIOS made a noticeable improvement in boot speed.
@@warrobots1warrobots135 I don't have a number, but it's fast enough now that by the time I have turned on all 3 monitors and put on my headphones, windows is ready to sign in.
Except a possibly bending socket on lga1700. And a powervirus without undervolting ;) Both have issues, it happens. Its more how they deal with it (and yea, AMD and bugfixing also dont have the best track record, i completely agree there). I did a similar thing but to 13700k from 3600. Also without issues but the stock setting are atrocious compared to a good undervolt.
@@Daisudori yes and a $7 cpu frame fixes that issue. Unfortunately, you can't fix AMD's issues as easily. I use TVB points and run 5.8ghz dynamically across all cores as long as it stays under 75C and while gaming it does, but I do have a custom loop. The i9 feels smoother and more fluid when gaming vs my 5950x. It's night and day. I'm sure the 7800x3d provides a similar experience but I'm just not willing to find out personally this time.
@@hamslice839 My friend has a 7700x system and its performing well also. We have (almost) the same gpu (6900 xt and 6950 xt) The 7700 does as good in gaming with no weird stutters on his system and its also been rocksolid. The one gripe: boot times are abit longer with the memory checking, but its been improved every bios update so far. When tuned properly the power usage between my 13700k and his 7700x is neglible while gaming (same 60-80w) In fact the intel is more efficient in productivity since it completes faster and its pulling 180-190watt UV vs 140 on the ryzen and completes stuff alot faster with the e cores helping. Ofcourse u can set the ryzen to eco but it loses quite some clock speed on MT on his sample. I think both are safe this time around. the upside for amd u dont need to go custom loop with top tier vrm board to cool their best gaming or productivity cpu which is going save quite abit in cost. a 7800x3d will be happy with some hyper 212 already. a 7950x will need abit beefier but not intel levels. So its really: Pick your poison, this round atleast.
About 40 at idle, under load it's about 76. Gaming I don't really see it go north of 60. Idle seemed high at first but after looking around at other folk's idle temps I learned that's typical.
Look, you wanted an Asus mob, but if you return it the first one and the second one is crappy, you just wasted your time with them and needed to move on to another brand.
you wasted time changing the mb because those stupid clickbait 'news' that were circulating a year ago? thats paranoid, not resourceful. i bought my b650m-hdv/m.2 back than and obv have no problems.
I didn't "waste" time at all. The motherboard had multiple issues, which I detailed in the video. It literally wouldn't boot, my guy. And both the first and the second had defective USB ports.
Oh man, I just got done watching the other 3 in this series, and you just posted this fourth one. Sorry to hear about all the problems you had, I've got the same fears about the upgrade I'm about to do to mine. Did you paint those front 5.25" panels to match the case? Looks good.
@@Badger8th Ah, must have been the angle, I saw that the optical drive and usb hub were both black in the other build videos, but at the start of this one they looked like they matched the case more. Check out my comment on the 3rd video in the series, I had a suggestion for you in there.
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steel legend is so underrated
It was my first choice, but sadly not available in my region. The 7800x3d melting problems with other brands, caused them all to sell out.
Just bought and installed a new Steel Legend x670e, 7800x3d, and 7900 xt and couldn't be happier. Thanks for the info and awesome content. God bless. Jesus loves you!
Thanks for sharing the experience. I built 2 AM5 systems recently, yes, ton of the problems. I am not good at vlog. We need this kind of information. Also get some media attention that should pressure AMD or board vendors to fix those issues.
oh boy, i just ordered parts for a new am5 build.
I definitely understand your attachment to Asus boards. In my experience of building PCs the motherboard brand seems to be one of the things builders tend to go back to again and again if they have good experiences early on. Your affinity for Asus boards are the same for me with MSI boards. I just love them from having so many in the past and the MSI BIOS I can navigate it with my eyes closed at this point. The only other board brand that I have used other than MSI is Gigabyte, so I definitely understand where you are coming from.
Only reason I didn't go MSI was because the Carbon is so damn expensive.
ive heard nothing but trouble with a lot of the am5 boards but im really happy with the Asrock X670E Steel Legend so far
Nice old school case. This is the second build I've seen praising Asrock. I've always been an MSI man myself
Thank you for sharing your experience. I have a question: Where do you get that red piece you use as a cover for the CPU, I mean I know is not a CPU cover, but I don't know the name, but looks nice and very practical, is that coming apart, or with the mobo, CPU, cooler or case? I did my research but without any success at all.
Thermalright CPU Contact frame, sold on Amazon and probably elsewhere as well.
Hey nice video man! Excited to see someone else giving asrock a chance, they’ve definitely come a long way in the pat few years and i really love a lot of their products especially their 7900xtx’s, beating out some of the other top of the line partners for amd in terms of board design, pcb, and vrms. Their motherboards are also priced super well for what they offer and their b650 hdv m.2 which is like 125 dollars is easily one of the best budget motherboards for up to 7800x3d. Although their bios / overall high end OC features may not be up there entirely with the big brands their budget and mid range is amazing
Have 7800X3D, X670E Steel Legend, 7900XTX undervolted -20 all stable
DUDE....... I have the same case and looking at using the Steel legend. lol
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Got my c70 case, MSI X570-A Pro, Ryzen 9 5900X, 64GB (4 x 16 DDR4 3200) Corsair Vengeance RGB (all colors same - light blue marque pattern). The Corsair iCUE H100 Capellix does fit in the C70 case. CPU temsp are quite cool under load - never above 80F in Aida64 stress test. Got a Nvidia 3090FE for video. Got three Asus monitors in surround view. May need to modify the case to replace the power button.
How do you find the airflow with the case? Got this case with my first pc (hand me down from someone that was built almost a decade ago) and i swapped to a different case a little while ago but im loving this case again and want to switch back.
My setup is an i9 13900 with a 240mm aio and a 7900xtx and I'd be switching to it from a cooler master h500 which im sure has much better airflow.
I want to get new front case fans for it and need to know if using a bottom fan is an absolute must.
I think it's been absolutely fine. Especially now that I've removed the front HDD cages. My temps are great.
Do you have a 3D printer? I'm dialing in a design to replace the 5.25" bays with an additional fan bay. It has a front hex mesh that matches the bottom.
I always loved that case. One thing I noticed is you didn't do a test of the motherboard before putting it in? And a long time ago I read where ASRock was affiliated with Asus but is also its own company? When Ryzen first gen came out the most popular board seemed to be the Taichi by ASRock. The build looks great!
Yes, since I knew all my other parts were good I felt like a test boot was unnecessary,
@@Badger8th I always did the same thing and left it to luck. lol
is your 4090 running at pcie 4.0 x16 or x8? i have the same motherboard and a 4080 super and now my 4090 have the same boot issues with taking several tries to boot up and i realized today that no matter what settings i use my 4090 is only on pcie 4.0 x8
I'm leaning toward the x670e steel legend in my build
It's been a complete champ for me thus far. I've been able to just use and play my new rig, feels great.
Thanks for the mini shoutout. Sorry to hear you had so many problems with that board. I use those same usb ports and haven't had any issues, although I don't even come close to using all of the ports at the same time. Perhaps that was just more than that chipset can handle? One thing I did notice is that the chipset can run pretty hot with multiple usb and nvme drives, and if you combine that with the small heatsink and absolutely no airflow (since it's blocked by the gpu) it could potentially cause those issues. Hope the Asrock board continues to serve you well!
Thanks, still no issues after almost a month now.
Just got a Steel Legend and 7800X3D for myself, will be building it this weekend when the RAM comes in. Any advice/suggestions on the BIOS setup? I've messaged the company that makes the RAM I am getting (64Gb 2x32 from TeamGroup), and AsRock as well, and confirmed the RAM will work fine. Not looking to overclock anything, just want it to run stable and at 'maximum non-overclocked' performance, if that makes sense.
There's probably some small things that can be enabled without OC, but I'm afraid I'm still very new to the world of AMD boards so most of my settings are stock. Don't forget to update BIOS before you change anything. I have EXPO enabled and I used the included fan tuner on the motherboard to tweak the fan curves. I also enabled some of the power settings so my USBs and RGB stay off when the PC is off. Thats about it!
Hey there, love your timelapse. I have a similar build as yours but I'm facing with red CPU and RAM indicators on my mobo and it's not going in post and I'm not sure why. Were there any other BTS steps you've done before heading to the BIOS?
No, sorry. My build with the ASRock board was trouble free.
Has the steel legend still been very good so far? Currently deciding between it and an Aorus Elite AX (both X670) for my own 7800x3d build, and want something very reliable and stable.
Yep still going strong, no issues.
Hi, I just watch your video and I would like to ask you about your experience with this mobo and cpu when u first boot it up. Did you update the bios immediately or did you install windows first? I just bought this mobo, with the same cpu and RAM sticks, but i dunno if I should do a flashback bios update, or install windows and after update the bios. Also, do you remeber which bios version the board came with? I just bought the mobo and I'm a little concerned with all the 7800x3d burning up thing
I installed windows first, then did the BIOS update. I don't remember which BIOS version it shipped with, but it was definitely not close to recent.
Since the issue with the 7800x3D revolved around using the SOC voltage on EXPO, as long as you run stock settings until you update your BIOS, you'll be fine.
@@Badger8th thanks for the reply! That helped a lot!!
Can a power outage during a bios update harm the other components such as the gpu or cpu, or just brick the motherboard?
I would have to imagine only the motherboard is at risk during that scenario. A power surge, would be a different story.
MSI x670e Tomahawk has been super solid for me. It was launched only this spring, later than other boards, and maybe it does not have those issues that early boards do. Memory overclocking and overall stability has been the best of any boards I've tried, and I've tried a few AM5 ones. My little 7600 has been doing wonders on it, 4800Mhz Hynix OEM RAM running at 6400Mhz with nice timings, and boosting comfortably to 7600x frequency levels. With that RAM and at that frequency is't faster than 5800x3d in almost everything.
Having said that, I still think the board is overpriced for what it is at 300$. (350 here where I live), but that can be said about every AM5 and recent 1700 boards, unfortunately.
Yeah! I like MSI so I definitely gave the Tomahawk a look. Sadly with only 6 USB ports it would have been identical to the amount of working ports on my ASUS, so it wasn't the right fit for me.
Bought the same MOBO, yesterday. 390$ Canadian dollars, so roughly 280 $ us dollars.
Are you still happy with this board after 11 months? I'm thinking about getting it...
Sure am, it's been a fantastic board.
@@Badger8th Great to hear! One thing I've noticed about mid- and upper-tier boards is they've started to put the cmos battery under rear i/o cover. If the battery went bad, you'd literally have to pull your motherboard out of the case, remove the back plate, and remove the top i/o cover to get to it. On top of that, the battery itself is wired and has its own connector to the board, so chances are you don't have one of those lying around. No thanks. Another thing they've started doing is not providing an optical port for audio. My computer's audio is connected to my stereo and that's the connection I use. Anyway, thanks for the response. I just might be a first-time Asrock owner.
I did the same thing except I swapped from Asus X670e TUF to Asrock X670E pro RS which is basically the same board save for some differences in usb ports and abit more sata. Also really happy with the Asrock board. Bios is simple but clear and its been running flawlessly
Small question: Are the error bootup leds on the steel legend color coded or they all red like mine?
I'm not at my PC at the moment to verify, but I believe they are all red.
has the pc overall been going well? I just recently built a pc with a Apevia Crusader chassis, with a X670E Steel Legend, replacing the X570 Steel Legend after that chipset fan grinded to a halt.
Yep, it's been running just fine for over a month now since I made this video. No further issues have come up.
Man PC building is fun until it isn't right! I way overspent on the x670 Gene because I love the high end mATX boards going back to the x58 Gene. The lates bios for it has been working fine with a 7700x and 6000 c30 ram. The PCIE lane thing with using all your m.2s disabling either some PCIE 16 lanes or losing sata ports has been a thing for a while now. Power users have lamented that a true HEDT platform hasn't come out since Threadripper on AMD with all its PCIE lanes and x299 on Intel. Both were super expensive of course and the also pretty expensive 'consumer' CPUs such as AM5 and LGA 1700 all have fewer lanes available while actually performing better in a lot of tasks being newer etc etc.
Hi, please which one is better motherboard ?
( Asrock b650e taichi lite ) or ( Asrock X670E steel legend ) ?
I don't know much about the Taichi, but I can tell you I'm very happy with my Steel Legend purchase. Still no issues and the latest BIOS made a noticeable improvement in boot speed.
@@Badger8th
How many seconds it takes to boot ?
@@warrobots1warrobots135 I don't have a number, but it's fast enough now that by the time I have turned on all 3 monitors and put on my headphones, windows is ready to sign in.
how many mhz can this motherboard handle without overclocking?
Without overclocking? Just depends on the CPU then.
I've had similar experiences with AMD. After my 5950X I went back to intel. Literally zero day one issues with my 13900k. I'm done FAFO with AMD.
Except a possibly bending socket on lga1700. And a powervirus without undervolting ;)
Both have issues, it happens. Its more how they deal with it (and yea, AMD and bugfixing also dont have the best track record, i completely agree there).
I did a similar thing but to 13700k from 3600. Also without issues but the stock setting are atrocious compared to a good undervolt.
@@Daisudori yes and a $7 cpu frame fixes that issue. Unfortunately, you can't fix AMD's issues as easily. I use TVB points and run 5.8ghz dynamically across all cores as long as it stays under 75C and while gaming it does, but I do have a custom loop. The i9 feels smoother and more fluid when gaming vs my 5950x. It's night and day. I'm sure the 7800x3d provides a similar experience but I'm just not willing to find out personally this time.
@@hamslice839 My friend has a 7700x system and its performing well also. We have (almost) the same gpu (6900 xt and 6950 xt)
The 7700 does as good in gaming with no weird stutters on his system and its also been rocksolid. The one gripe: boot times are abit longer with the memory checking, but its been improved every bios update so far.
When tuned properly the power usage between my 13700k and his 7700x is neglible while gaming (same 60-80w)
In fact the intel is more efficient in productivity since it completes faster and its pulling 180-190watt UV vs 140 on the ryzen and completes stuff alot faster with the e cores helping.
Ofcourse u can set the ryzen to eco but it loses quite some clock speed on MT on his sample.
I think both are safe this time around. the upside for amd u dont need to go custom loop with top tier vrm board to cool their best gaming or productivity cpu which is going save quite abit in cost. a 7800x3d will be happy with some hyper 212 already. a 7950x will need abit beefier but not intel levels.
So its really: Pick your poison, this round atleast.
Nice system :)
Could I get away with an 850 psu for the 4080?
Yeah I think so
Yes, I have a Corsair 850i with a 3090FE - and yes - same case - Corsair C70 green.
What temperature does the cpu show?
About 40 at idle, under load it's about 76. Gaming I don't really see it go north of 60. Idle seemed high at first but after looking around at other folk's idle temps I learned that's typical.
hows the pc doing with the new board
Really good! Haven't had any issues since putting the new board in, and she's been smoking every game I throw at her.
@@Badger8th my 1st motherboard did not work and on Friday i bought the same one if it still doesn't work im going to go with asrock
Look, you wanted an Asus mob, but if you return it the first one and the second one is crappy, you just wasted your time with them and needed to move on to another brand.
Uh...yes, that's the idea
you wasted time changing the mb because those stupid clickbait 'news' that were circulating a year ago? thats paranoid, not resourceful. i bought my b650m-hdv/m.2 back than and obv have no problems.
I didn't "waste" time at all. The motherboard had multiple issues, which I detailed in the video. It literally wouldn't boot, my guy. And both the first and the second had defective USB ports.
Oh man, I just got done watching the other 3 in this series, and you just posted this fourth one. Sorry to hear about all the problems you had, I've got the same fears about the upgrade I'm about to do to mine.
Did you paint those front 5.25" panels to match the case? Looks good.
No, the original 5.25 panels were green, the black parts on the front are my Blu-ray ripper and my USB-c front panel adapter.
@@Badger8th Ah, must have been the angle, I saw that the optical drive and usb hub were both black in the other build videos, but at the start of this one they looked like they matched the case more.
Check out my comment on the 3rd video in the series, I had a suggestion for you in there.