@@knawl That is what I was thinking. It is now becoming evident to me that most ancient Gods, Deities etc. start of as somewhat "neutral", but with the advent of Christianity, end up as being Demonic, sinful or evil.
This video was super interesting, thank you 😊 i would love to hear more about Lilith - I first heard of her as the rebellious first wife of Adam, recently someone on a Pagan group I'm in claimed that Lilith was from a closed Jewish tradition and so working with her in a Pagan way was cultural appropriation, but it seems like the rebellious wife interpretation was also based on cultural borrowing! I love Lilith as a patriarchy busting feminist figure, it would be great to hear about her modern re-imaginings.
Bro jusus pbuh is not son of god nor he is a god rather he is a prophet of god the greatest and jusus pbuh submit to. God so if you're true follower of jusus pbuh then submit to god(ALLAH)the greatest he is, god of jusus there you will be saved from being doomed may god forbid I'm wishing you all well my friend.
Being in that kind of stuff (I have a Master in Social and Historical Anthropology, my thesis was on Wicca and Chaos Magick), I thought I already knew everything this video would expose, and almost decided not to watch it. In knew almost everything, but the details of the rabbinic interpretation are a gem! I'm re-reading Neumann's The Origins and History of Consciousness, and boy does it make sense! Thanks for that :)
Yes! We want to know everything about Lilith from you!!! I have a deep love for this figure also because it fits me so well. Knowing her better would be awesome! The”stormy winds” 4:20 💓
Lilith started as a goddess in Sumer and is depicted as such in the Burney Relief according to Thorkild Jacobsen. So after she had some bad press for a few millennia she has returned to her rightful place in this one. More on Lilith in the modern age would be most welcome in a future video.
That's not accurate. Lilith never was a goddess, she always been a demon and never had any cult!!! She had bad press cause she was linked to kill babies for jews. Worshipping her is pretty a "new" practice ☺️❤️
Thanks for this; because I ‘did’ Theology (a million years ago) people have often asked me about Lilith in the Bible and I’ve always been a bit “meh, idk really she’s not in the Bible....” But: now I can direct them to this video which is the best account I’ve seen! 😈
In South Texas, there's an old myth of La Lechuza, the owl lady. All Mexican Americans from south texas have heard of La Lechuza. And you will meet people that have claimed to have seen her with a straight face.
First, I'd like to say how much I appreciate an actual educated approach to the occult. I've seen hundreds of hours of TH-cam videos and often just come away with anecdotal opinions or worse yet, someone's personal "gnosis" which often revolves around a demon telling them how special and important they are, lol. Recently, I started asking myself: what did I learn from this video? It was then that I realized that much of the time,the answer was nothing. Absolutely nothing. That's fine sometimes but as a witch, I have so much actual knowledge I need to learn and that is where I want to focus my time. So, thank you again for providing legitimate academic material on this subject. Now, on to my question. Who is the original Infernal/dark Feminine? For example, there is Lilith, Inanna, Ishtar, Lamashtu, Hecate... As you know, both Lilith and Inanna have been attributed to the ancient Burney Relief with some disagreement. There is so much syncratism that it's frustrating trying to get to the source, the origins. Biblical references are useless. That is modern pulp fiction as far I'm concerned. I want the source - thousands of years before the desert religions came into being. Would love to know your thoughts on this. Also, a video going deep on Hecate in general would be fantastic. Thanks again for what you do. I am a new subscriber and look forward to your content.
Great video! I especially liked how you connected Lilith with the demoness traditions in surrounding cultures, and the lamia in particular. I’m curious, though, about how popular the first wife interpretation of Lilith really was for the general Jewish and Christian populations, or if it largely just existed in academic/rabbinic circles. Growing up in a presbyterian church, I had never heard that, or the issue with the two creation stories, until I saw a documentary about it on the history channel when I was in high school. Keep the great videos coming!
Lovely video. I know most of this information. I would love a follow up video. As a pagan and occultist I work a lot with Lilith. Mostly Qabalistic interpretation of her, but I'm sure I don't know every ditail of what was written on her over time. So it's always exciting to learn something new about her that I might have missed or overlooked.
I tried looking up Erose Music band but couldn't find it. Do you have a link? Also, just out of curiosity, Are you the one singing because the voice sounds a lot like yours, Love your channel by the way!
I could not find the de Gruyter article you 2018 reference came from. But, I found several similar and , as you point out: "The creatures of the desert will encounter jackals And the hairy goat will call to its kind; Indeed, Lilith (night demon) will settle there And find herself a place of rest" - Isaiah 34:14 in the Darby Bible Translation and the Amplified Bible. The International Standard Version uses the plural "Liliths" . Of course, most translations say, "the night monster" or simply "the night owl". The Catholic Douay-Rheims Bible reads: "the lamia lain down, and found rest for herself". Lamia being a female bodied monster. Satyr (I couldn't find centaur) and goat and "hairy one" are terms often mentioned, but not in place of Lilith. She is an owl, apart from the owl or a monster. Satyr and goat are swapped out with each other and are always mentioned along with Lilith. Please post more like this, I love it!
One thing to be noted is people always ask for more about Her, even I still do and will always, BUT; You can ask Her yourself - Ask Her as a friend/lover. Make yourself something She is interested in. Don't do a Goetic evocation, buy a rosĕ and She will tell you if She wants a sip, give Her flowers etc. Treat Her like a beloved human being, and, maybe, a relationship will form.
Dear Angela, thank you for a nice video. Just a footnote: De Gruyter is publisher. The editors of Encyclopedia are Constance M. Furey, Joel Marcus LeMon, Brian Matz, Thomas Römer, Jens Schröter, Barry Dov Walfish and Eric Ziolkowski. I like your videos, but the reference is in incorrect format, in my opinion. Have a nice day and continue posting interesting videos such as this one about Lilith.
@@drangelapuca You are welcome. Don't worry about that, I am making similar mistakes every day... By the way, Walter de Gruyter died in 1923, so be cautious about mentioning him as an editor elsewhere. Have a nice day.
Dr. Angela, when and how did Lilith enter the popular imagination from Talmudic / apocryphal sources? "The Adam" which you mentioned.... same as the Adam Kadmon of Kabbalah? Just checked Isaiah 34:14 in the only Bible I have (so-called King James) and refers to a "satyr" in verse in which you placed Lilith. Is Lilith explicitly named in the Vulgate? Thanks for providing citations, making relations with librarians much smoother!
I remember learning in a college class about Goddesses that Lilith was associated with manure... which could be like fertilizer, what helps the land be fertile. Can't remember who made this association, but at least remember her connection to fertilizing the earth🌎😁💜🙏🏼🐈⬛
I have a video idea you could think about. In the Bible the urim and thummim, and casting lots are used to divine the will of God. Could you do a video on such magic practices?
Yes, to more Lilith videos. A good reference and starting point for your favourite demons in the bible can be the DDD - Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible, 2nd rev edition. Karel van der Toorn, Bob Becking, Pieter W van der Horst, Brill / Eerdmans, 1999.
Excellent video! I've often seen Lilith and other female mythical/ folkloric beings described as having bird feet or being part bird. If I wanted to do more research on the history and origins of that motif where might I start looking? It's a weirdly specific question pertaining to a project I'm working on and I'm not really sure where to go looking.
As everything was passed orally until the exile into Babylon, we are relying on word of mouth for hundreds of years before any scribes, individuals who were authoring any stories that would become part of the Torah and Tannack. I'm not surprised that Lilith character is vague and the result of Rabbinic debate.
She's mentioned many, many times in The Zohar. This is where we understand לילית to be the first wife of אדם. She is Night and is the female aspect of the evil inclination, and she is much more terrifying than the male aspect. Where the serpent is an aspect of the male, hers is the scorpion.
Its not 2 different stories. Virtually all scholars agree that the 1st part is a general statement in the creation, the 2nd part is a deeper detail explanation of creation. This style of writing has been done for thousands of years even in modern novels.
Lilith is one and the same, as Eve. And that is why, at the point of reasoning, as to eat the fruit or not, a decision has to be made, as either Lilith or Eve. Either outcome, is better than being both simultaneously, at a such decision. What is strange, is the conviction, that Eve, and Lilith are two separate, concepts, one wild, and the other not supposedly so, even to this day, in "modern existence". Which in turn does not benefit neither Lilith, nor Eve. Lilith is before the garments, Eve is after the garments, pleasure existed equally, before the garments, and after the garments. The reaction to it, is what changed, by becoming simultaneously clever, as Eve and Lilith combined. If you think Adam is left off the hook! Abel and Cain, are the two sides of Adam. One before the garments, the other after the garments. Pleasure existed equally, before the garments, and after the garments. The reaction to it, is what changed, by becoming simultaneously clever as Abel and Cain. Making the pleasures, of Eve and Adam of equal weight, only to be distorted, by being simultaneously clever, at a particular moment of a decision making.
I'm not sure about the origins of Lilith but I was once asked to find out which Demon was always hanging around a lady. She wanted to know so that she could engage with it in a more meaningful way (I work with Demons myself so this lady approached me based on other things I had done). She thought it might be Hecate but I discovered it was Lilith. Long story short, her life has transformed since she began engaging with Lilith to the point where her life and she herself are unrecognizable now - in a very positive way. Love your channel, Angela. 🖤🤘😊
I remember when I heard about Lilith as a teen and the first wife of Adam thing in a TV series. Having being born in a practicing christian family and having already read the Genesis and never heard of her from neither my family, nor the church and not even the Bible itself I really didn't understood where it was comming from.
I loved your remarks about difficulty translating Semitic languages to European ones. That's completely true. The word translated to "Rib" actually translates to "spine" like on a cactus. Consider though that all other primates and mammals have a spine bone in the penis. It's unique that human men don't have one and thus have to reach a certain emotional condition to impregnate a woman. The narrative can make sense as a comment on what distinguishes humans from animals.
Lilith was the first wife of Adam but didnt wont to bare chikdren or pleassure adam and Eve did became his child baring wife. Eve was tempted by Lilith the serpent in the garden of eden.
Just out of curiosity, how many ancient languages do you know? I have mentioned texts in Hebrew, Aramaic, Assyrian and Akkadian and I would presume you also know Latin and Greek. Do you know any others? Kudos for you and congrats on the great channel!
@@drangelapuca Oh, you are welcome. It's my pleasure to contribute to the work of quality content creators such as yourself! I've actually always wanted to study Tibetan. Where have you learnt it, if you don't mind me asking?
Addition…. The original story upon its retelling over time was in an oral tradition was subject t9 changes …and as cultural exchanges of stories in a retelling and reinterpretation from one language to another meant further changes …assuming the original event which fuelled these myths was in time forgotten but is a Template upon which through retelling was embellished ..of course I hav3 no proof of this just my attempts to make human an otherwise totally unreal story as handed down from before th3 late Bronze Age collapse
I always knew the story of Lilith being first wife of Adam but wanted to be equal to him. Adam complained about this and she was banished from Eden by angels before Eve came along. As she wandered the Earth from thereafter she became a demon who would steal children and eat the and would seduce men. She could change her appearance at will but was a scary figure in her normal appearance. I don’t really remember now where I got this story from but that’s what I remember. Love ya Angela❤️
@@EroticInferno Could be but’s just the story I know from long ago. It’s been so long I don’t even remember where I heard it but I heard it more than once
Litlith is another human principality creation. She is more an esoteric belief system of a forgotten culture, than a literal being. However given a spirit with her power may have existed pre flood, humans channeling their psychic ability to connect and with spirits of the earth, as well as other astrals, could have conjured Her. There is a sect that believes she was a Nephalem, but this train of thought can sometimes bridge into nationalism, so be aware. The Key of Solomon, and the Lesser Key, address these type of manifestations. Sounds ludicrous, but how is believing in these ideas any different than Christian of Hindu beliefs?
If I remember well something that I read long ago, in the Talmud God told Lilith to submit to Adam and she replied something like: "when pigs will fly." Therefore God sent three angels (notice: 3! an angel was supposed to be the panzerdivision of God's arsenal) to subdue/capture/punish her. Their names were something like Savi, Sansavi, Semangelef (more or less. Like everything in the Talmud, their names were supposed to have a special meaning but I have no clue what it is). Lilith escaped to or was banished to the moon. And that is supposed to be the reason why women's menstrual periods are the same as Moon's cycle. Am I remotely correct?
You could also see her children being killed by her blood being rh negative and incompatible to adoms positive blood. Meaning she wasn't created by their creator, she was native and they were intruders
Thank you so much for this informative video my elder sister, in fact to me Lilith is a symbolic expression for my ideal type of the heroines, a strong intrepid woman who went rebellious against both the social norms and the patriarchal mentality. In short Lilith is a type of women by whom i aspire to be led, and spend the rest of my life under their feet. (Your little brother Juad, with my infinite respect and adoration).
Very interesting. One pointer on de Gruyter. That is a Dutch or Flemish name. Your pronunciation was not quite right. If you have google translate speak the word ruiter in Dutch, you will hear the vowel sound for ui or uy, which is just an old way to write it. The G is also different in Dutch or Flemish. Again, have google speak ‘Goed’ in Dutch. You’ll get it right quickly, and hopefully wonder about some of the weirdnesses of languages. Greetings from the Netherlands!
I wonder if geneticists chose to label the earliest human YDNA A and the progenitor of all human MtDNA L0 after Adam and Lilith. L0 is located in South Africa, however and A is generally thought to have occurred in West Africa sometime later. Considering that all the Biblical action takes place around Mesopotamia, clearly Adam and Eve weren't in fact the first humans, as the Bible suggests. It does, however make it much more plausible that they lived 6000 years ago
I'm confused, does anyone argue Lilith was in the Bible (Christian) or are you using a different meaning of Bible? Everyone says she's from Hebrew texts, not Christian. "The Bible" is a term usually used for Christianized Hebrew texts.
Hello Angela, oh yes, please make a more in-depth video about Lilith and how modern occult cults incorporated Her into Magick and Sorcery. It seems that there is a Lilith for the path on the Tree of Death (ie Qliphoth) and the other Lilith as we may know her (mother of demons, queen of succubi). Thank you for your videos :)
I got curious deeper now. And I read my bible, in Indonesian language(Bahasa), in Yesaya(Isaiah) 34:14, it called Hantu Malam. Hantu=ghost, malam = night. But in verse 15, it called Ular Pohon. Ular =snake, pohon = tree. I'm confused now. 😂😅 But still I wanna know more about this Lilith. 😄
In the Genesis narrative, "Adam" was the name of both the man and the woman - Ish and Isha - the woman was not named Eve by Yahweh, but by Ish, the man. And since in the same place it says that God created Adam in the image of God, that means that God is both male and female. One of the earliest names of God was El Shaddai, The Great Breasty One, an image of maternal provision and nurturing...
Like button smashed!!!! Very informative. Thank you. (Did you say she killed them with poison darks from her breasts? I think that was Austin Powers movie. jk). Peace best wishes. Happy Spring.
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Sweet video. Lilith is the perfect example of how deities and gods can evolve over time, even changing from a negative into a positive.
Well said! :)
Or vice versa
@@knawl That is what I was thinking. It is now becoming evident to me that most ancient Gods, Deities etc. start of as somewhat "neutral", but with the advent of Christianity, end up as being Demonic, sinful or evil.
I am sorry but Lilith is not scriptural. And it is not found in the real bible.
@@kobalt77 with the advent of monotheism
Yes. Please do all the Lilith video is you mentioned. Lilith has such a huge contemporary significance!!!
yes indeed, Amanda.
I LOVE this!!! Please more on Lilith this is so fascinating.
more to come!
This video was super interesting, thank you 😊 i would love to hear more about Lilith - I first heard of her as the rebellious first wife of Adam, recently someone on a Pagan group I'm in claimed that Lilith was from a closed Jewish tradition and so working with her in a Pagan way was cultural appropriation, but it seems like the rebellious wife interpretation was also based on cultural borrowing! I love Lilith as a patriarchy busting feminist figure, it would be great to hear about her modern re-imaginings.
Thanks for the suggestion, Champer
Considering the many interpretations of Lilith historically, the reference to her in the Bible, accusations of cultural appropriation seem misplaced.
@@drangelapuca Jesus is the only Son of God... In Jesus name, the devil runs away with fear.
Bro jusus pbuh is not son of god nor he is a god rather he is a prophet of god the greatest and jusus pbuh submit to. God so if you're true follower of jusus pbuh then submit to god(ALLAH)the greatest he is, god of jusus there you will be saved from being doomed may god forbid I'm wishing you all well my friend.
Being in that kind of stuff (I have a Master in Social and Historical Anthropology, my thesis was on Wicca and Chaos Magick), I thought I already knew everything this video would expose, and almost decided not to watch it. In knew almost everything, but the details of the rabbinic interpretation are a gem! I'm re-reading Neumann's The Origins and History of Consciousness, and boy does it make sense! Thanks for that :)
Glad you did watch it in the end, Erel :)
This little talk is a good compliment to "The Book of Lilith" by Barbara Black Koltuv, Ph.D. more videos on this topic would be appreciated.
thank you, Robert
Thanks, I always found this subject confusing and this answer feels very clear and complete!
You're very welcome!
@@drangelapuca Jesus is the only Son of God... In Jesus name, the devil runs away with fear.
Yes! We want to know everything about Lilith from you!!!
I have a deep love for this figure also because it fits me so well. Knowing her better would be awesome! The”stormy winds” 4:20 💓
You got it! More to come :)
@@drangelapuca stormy winds was also a revelatory experience for me, such a misunderstood figure deserves all the screen time She can get.
I'd love to learn more about Lilith's history and folklore (ancient and modern)! Please do it!
I will, Laura :)
Great post.👍 I hope you do one for Hecate. Blessed be🌒🌕🌘🗝
Great suggestion, Richard! I need to find time to carry out the research though :(
I've always been fascinated by Lilith; I'd love to watch more videos of you speaking about her in Sumerian mythology. :)
Thanks
Wonderful video as always!
thanks pucc
Lilith started as a goddess in Sumer and is depicted as such in the Burney Relief according to Thorkild Jacobsen. So after she had some bad press for a few millennia she has returned to her rightful place in this one. More on Lilith in the modern age would be most welcome in a future video.
thank you, Andrew
That's not accurate. Lilith never was a goddess, she always been a demon and never had any cult!!! She had bad press cause she was linked to kill babies for jews. Worshipping her is pretty a "new" practice ☺️❤️
@@ventusheart5733 Thanks Tony. I would love to see your sources for that :-)
@@Frithogar a simple research as "lilith mythology" will give you answers 🙃 what are YOUR sources?
@@ventusheart5733 My source is in my original post.
I find Lilith's story fascinating. Rebellious independent female archetypes are hard to find.
yes, indeed!
Good video. Yes would like to hear more about Lilith. Thank you so much for your work.
More to come!
Thanks for this; because I ‘did’ Theology (a million years ago) people have often asked me about Lilith in the Bible and I’ve always been a bit “meh, idk really she’s not in the Bible....” But: now I can direct them to this video which is the best account I’ve seen! 😈
Thank you so much, George
In South Texas, there's an old myth of La Lechuza, the owl lady. All Mexican Americans from south texas have heard of La Lechuza.
And you will meet people that have claimed to have seen her with a straight face.
fascinating, Nelson!
Interesting indeed! Do you have any links of interest about it?
@@alanasighildpetersson3905 www.dictionary.com/e/fictional-characters/lechuza/
Once again a great, informative video, thank you 🙂
More videos about Lilith would be awesome 👍
More to come, Boleslaw!
First, I'd like to say how much I appreciate an actual educated approach to the occult. I've seen hundreds of hours of TH-cam videos and often just come away with anecdotal opinions or worse yet, someone's personal "gnosis" which often revolves around a demon telling them how special and important they are, lol. Recently, I started asking myself: what did I learn from this video? It was then that I realized that much of the time,the answer was nothing. Absolutely nothing. That's fine sometimes but as a witch, I have so much actual knowledge I need to learn and that is where I want to focus my time. So, thank you again for providing legitimate academic material on this subject.
Now, on to my question. Who is the original Infernal/dark Feminine? For example, there is Lilith, Inanna, Ishtar, Lamashtu, Hecate... As you know, both Lilith and Inanna have been attributed to the ancient Burney Relief with some disagreement. There is so much syncratism that it's frustrating trying to get to the source, the origins. Biblical references are useless. That is modern pulp fiction as far I'm concerned. I want the source - thousands of years before the desert religions came into being. Would love to know your thoughts on this. Also, a video going deep on Hecate in general would be fantastic. Thanks again for what you do. I am a new subscriber and look forward to your content.
thanks for the appreciation. There no original infernal feminine as such in the Bible
Great video! I especially liked how you connected Lilith with the demoness traditions in surrounding cultures, and the lamia in particular. I’m curious, though, about how popular the first wife interpretation of Lilith really was for the general Jewish and Christian populations, or if it largely just existed in academic/rabbinic circles. Growing up in a presbyterian church, I had never heard that, or the issue with the two creation stories, until I saw a documentary about it on the history channel when I was in high school. Keep the great videos coming!
Thank you, Matt!
Lovely video. I know most of this information. I would love a follow up video. As a pagan and occultist I work a lot with Lilith. Mostly Qabalistic interpretation of her, but I'm sure I don't know every ditail of what was written on her over time. So it's always exciting to learn something new about her that I might have missed or overlooked.
Wonderful! thank you, Suzanne
@@drangelapuca You're welcome. 😊
I enjoyed this video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for letting me know, John
Thanks for Charming presentation with exotic infos.What about the Astrological figure of Lillith,Is there any relativity?
that would deserve a different video :-)
@@drangelapuca Hopefully Audience Expect.
This was very interesting. I would love to hear more about the history of this figure.
I will :-)
Where do you get your clothes Dr. Angela? I must know. You always have such cool shirts!
Well, if that’s true, I’m a daughter of Lilith. Because yikes I don’t want to be the subservient woman of the Bible.
glad you enjoyed the video :)
I’ve always questioned God why he put us on earth the same place where he cast out satan and his demons.
I would certainly be interested in learning more. This is not a topic I have found easy to research on my own
glad it was helpful
Thanks for this wonderful information
So nice of you
I tried looking up Erose Music band but couldn't find it. Do you have a link? Also, just out of curiosity, Are you the one singing because the voice sounds a lot like yours, Love your channel by the way!
Yes, I'm the singer :-)
th-cam.com/channels/hDvT-K0aETiNMHBYCY_82Q.html
@@drangelapuca beautiful voice!
I could not find the de Gruyter article you 2018 reference came from.
But, I found several similar and , as you point out: "The creatures of the desert will encounter jackals And the hairy goat will call to its kind; Indeed, Lilith (night demon) will settle there And find herself a place of rest" - Isaiah 34:14 in the Darby Bible Translation and the Amplified Bible.
The International Standard Version uses the plural "Liliths" .
Of course, most translations say, "the night monster" or simply "the night owl". The Catholic Douay-Rheims Bible reads: "the lamia lain down, and found rest for herself". Lamia being a female bodied monster.
Satyr (I couldn't find centaur) and goat and "hairy one" are terms often mentioned, but not in place of Lilith. She is an owl, apart from the owl or a monster.
Satyr and goat are swapped out with each other and are always mentioned along with Lilith.
Please post more like this, I love it!
please, check the info box. The reference has been corrected
Lilith in Frasier would be a good topic!! ;-)
thanks, Mark
or the town of Lilith in one of my favorite 70's movies, Necromancy....
One thing to be noted is people always ask for more about Her, even I still do and will always, BUT; You can ask Her yourself - Ask Her as a friend/lover. Make yourself something She is interested in. Don't do a Goetic evocation, buy a rosĕ and She will tell you if She wants a sip, give Her flowers etc. Treat Her like a beloved human being, and, maybe, a relationship will form.
thanks for sharing
Dear Angela, thank you for a nice video. Just a footnote: De Gruyter is publisher. The editors of Encyclopedia are Constance M. Furey, Joel Marcus LeMon, Brian Matz, Thomas Römer, Jens Schröter, Barry Dov Walfish and Eric Ziolkowski. I like your videos, but the reference is in incorrect format, in my opinion. Have a nice day and continue posting interesting videos such as this one about Lilith.
Thanks for the info, I think you might be right! I knew he's a publisher but sometimes also appears as editor of volumes.
Just checked and added the Corrigendum in the infobox. Thanks again for helping me improve my content!
@@drangelapuca You are welcome. Don't worry about that, I am making similar mistakes every day... By the way, Walter de Gruyter died in 1923, so be cautious about mentioning him as an editor elsewhere. Have a nice day.
Thank you Angela. I would love to hear more about Lilith, particularly if she would be "useful" for working with in invoking rituals.
I'll cover more from the academic scholarship
Dr. Angela, when and how did Lilith enter the popular imagination from Talmudic / apocryphal sources? "The Adam" which you mentioned.... same as the Adam Kadmon of Kabbalah? Just checked Isaiah 34:14 in the only Bible I have (so-called King James) and refers to a "satyr" in verse in which you placed Lilith. Is Lilith explicitly named in the Vulgate? Thanks for providing citations, making relations with librarians much smoother!
no, I don't think they're the same
I'd be very interested in seeing all of those videos you just mentioned.
thanks for letting me know
The Mandaean texts are also interesting on their discussion of Lilith.
Wohoo! First
yay!!!
I find her very interesting. There's something fascinating about folklore, magic extra that's tangentially connected to my religion through the Bible.
thanks for sharing, Apollo
First thought was "yeah, I can't bear children either" and then I realised what you meant
haha
More about Lilith, please.
thanks for letting me know, Rose!
I remember learning in a college class about Goddesses that Lilith was associated with manure... which could be like fertilizer, what helps the land be fertile. Can't remember who made this association, but at least remember her connection to fertilizing the earth🌎😁💜🙏🏼🐈⬛
Nice!
I have a video idea you could think about. In the Bible the urim and thummim, and casting lots are used to divine the will of God. Could you do a video on such magic practices?
good idea, Apollo
Yes, to more Lilith videos. A good reference and starting point for your favourite demons in the bible can be the DDD - Dictionary of Deities and Demons in the Bible, 2nd rev edition. Karel van der Toorn, Bob Becking, Pieter W van der Horst, Brill / Eerdmans, 1999.
Thank you for sharing the reference!
Excellent video! I've often seen Lilith and other female mythical/ folkloric beings described as having bird feet or being part bird. If I wanted to do more research on the history and origins of that motif where might I start looking? It's a weirdly specific question pertaining to a project I'm working on and I'm not really sure where to go looking.
search on google scholar, Jstor, Academia.edu and on Library databases.
@@drangelapuca Thanks! Any particular authors to look out for?
I would be interested in more on Lilith, if you haven't already made those videos you mentioned you might
Hail the great mother goddess lilith a true loving and a motherly figure best decision was knowing and learning about this loving deity
thanks for sharing
As everything was passed orally until the exile into Babylon, we are relying on word of mouth for hundreds of years before any scribes, individuals who were authoring any stories that would become part of the Torah and Tannack. I'm not surprised that Lilith character is vague and the result of Rabbinic debate.
Thank you!
You're welcome, Taha!
Wonderful!
Many thanks!
The truth of why lilith left Adam is amazing and should be understood.
thanks
She's mentioned many, many times in The Zohar. This is where we understand לילית to be the first wife of אדם. She is Night and is the female aspect of the evil inclination, and she is much more terrifying than the male aspect. Where the serpent is an aspect of the male, hers is the scorpion.
interesting, thanks for sharing!
Its not 2 different stories. Virtually all scholars agree that the 1st part is a general statement in the creation, the 2nd part is a deeper detail explanation of creation. This style of writing has been done for thousands of years even in modern novels.
Lilith is one and the same, as Eve. And that is why, at the point of reasoning, as to eat the fruit or not, a decision has to be made, as either Lilith or Eve. Either outcome, is better than being both simultaneously, at a such decision. What is strange, is the conviction, that Eve, and Lilith are two separate, concepts, one wild, and the other not supposedly so, even to this day, in "modern existence". Which in turn does not benefit neither Lilith, nor Eve. Lilith is before the garments, Eve is after the garments, pleasure existed equally, before the garments, and after the garments. The reaction to it, is what changed, by becoming simultaneously clever, as Eve and Lilith combined. If you think Adam is left off the hook! Abel and Cain, are the two sides of Adam. One before the garments, the other after the garments. Pleasure existed equally, before the garments, and after the garments. The reaction to it, is what changed, by becoming simultaneously clever as Abel and Cain. Making the pleasures, of Eve and Adam of equal weight, only to be distorted, by being simultaneously clever, at a particular moment of a decision making.
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There is in Talmud a second wife as well making Eve the third :)
thanks, Richard!
So interesting... triggered forgotten memory of reading the Lilith by George MacDonald; ( a wonderful read). Thank-you!
thanks for the recommendation, Morgan
I'm not sure about the origins of Lilith but I was once asked to find out which Demon was always hanging around a lady. She wanted to know so that she could engage with it in a more meaningful way (I work with Demons myself so this lady approached me based on other things I had done). She thought it might be Hecate but I discovered it was Lilith. Long story short, her life has transformed since she began engaging with Lilith to the point where her life and she herself are unrecognizable now - in a very positive way.
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Thank you, Ian 😊
I recently read that the name Lilith has been translated as 'owl'.
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I remember when I heard about Lilith as a teen and the first wife of Adam thing in a TV series. Having being born in a practicing christian family and having already read the Genesis and never heard of her from neither my family, nor the church and not even the Bible itself I really didn't understood where it was comming from.
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I loved your remarks about difficulty translating Semitic languages to European ones. That's completely true. The word translated to "Rib" actually translates to "spine" like on a cactus. Consider though that all other primates and mammals have a spine bone in the penis. It's unique that human men don't have one and thus have to reach a certain emotional condition to impregnate a woman. The narrative can make sense as a comment on what distinguishes humans from animals.
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telling it strait! thanks...
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Any discation will be welcomed.
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Well I owe some people an apology
haha, it's fine Karl. We all do at times. :)
In Christianity, we consider Lilith to be a myth and The Bible says that Adam and Eve were the first human beings ever created.
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It's surprising that lillith is Adam's first wife but the details r confused
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Kindly do more digging with the other books of the Bible and Jewish texts, and tell us more
thanks for the suggestion
thanks for the great work. since you asked, it would be awesome to find out if there is any connection between Lilith and vampire myth.
Great suggestion!
Lilith was the first wife of Adam but didnt wont to bare chikdren or pleassure adam and Eve did became his child baring wife. Eve was tempted by Lilith the serpent in the garden of eden.
not according to the Bible
great video, yep more Lilith!
sure
Just out of curiosity, how many ancient languages do you know? I have mentioned texts in Hebrew, Aramaic, Assyrian and Akkadian and I would presume you also know Latin and Greek. Do you know any others? Kudos for you and congrats on the great channel!
I've studied Latin, Ancient Greek, Sanskrit and Tibetan. Thank you for the donation, by the way, very appreciated. :-)
@@drangelapuca Oh, you are welcome. It's my pleasure to contribute to the work of quality content creators such as yourself! I've actually always wanted to study Tibetan. Where have you learnt it, if you don't mind me asking?
Love feminist Lilith here, thanks for ur work
aw thanks!
That is why we have to go beyond the Bible to seek the truth.
glad it was helpful
Addition….
The original story upon its retelling over time was in an oral tradition was subject t9 changes …and as cultural exchanges of stories in a retelling and reinterpretation from one language to another meant further changes …assuming the original event which fuelled these myths was in time forgotten but is a Template upon which through retelling was embellished ..of course I hav3 no proof of this just my attempts to make human an otherwise totally unreal story as handed down from before th3 late Bronze Age collapse
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I always knew the story of Lilith being first wife of Adam but wanted to be equal to him. Adam complained about this and she was banished from Eden by angels before Eve came along. As she wandered the Earth from thereafter she became a demon who would steal children and eat the and would seduce men. She could change her appearance at will but was a scary figure in her normal appearance. I don’t really remember now where I got this story from but that’s what I remember. Love ya Angela❤️
Sounds like propaganda to me. I think she’s just the strong headed woman that men couldn’t make subservient. So she must be a witch or demon.
Thank you, Ryan!
@@EroticInferno Could be but’s just the story I know from long ago. It’s been so long I don’t even remember where I heard it but I heard it more than once
Litlith is another human principality creation. She is more an esoteric belief system of a forgotten culture, than a literal being.
However given a spirit with her power may have existed pre flood, humans channeling their psychic ability to connect and with spirits of the earth, as well as other astrals, could have conjured Her.
There is a sect that believes she was a Nephalem, but this train of thought can sometimes bridge into nationalism, so be aware.
The Key of Solomon, and the Lesser Key, address these type of manifestations.
Sounds ludicrous, but how is believing in these ideas any different than Christian of Hindu beliefs?
Dr Angela your accent is really 👌 are u Spanish
I'm Italian :)
Cool video. I would like to learn more. Could Lilith killing babies been an attempt to explain SIDS at that point in history?
Absolutely possible. I've heard this theory before.
If I remember well something that I read long ago, in the Talmud God told Lilith to submit to Adam and she replied something like: "when pigs will fly." Therefore God sent three angels (notice: 3! an angel was supposed to be the panzerdivision of God's arsenal) to subdue/capture/punish her. Their names were something like Savi, Sansavi, Semangelef (more or less. Like everything in the Talmud, their names were supposed to have a special meaning but I have no clue what it is). Lilith escaped to or was banished to the moon. And that is supposed to be the reason why women's menstrual periods are the same as Moon's cycle.
Am I remotely correct?
thanks for sharing, Francesco
You could also see her children being killed by her blood being rh negative and incompatible to adoms positive blood. Meaning she wasn't created by their creator, she was native and they were intruders
Lilith, lilies, lilacs, and Hindu Lila
Thank you so much for this informative video my elder sister, in fact to me Lilith is a symbolic expression for my ideal type of the heroines, a strong intrepid woman who went rebellious against both the social norms and the patriarchal mentality. In short Lilith is a type of women by whom i aspire to be led, and spend the rest of my life under their feet. (Your little brother Juad, with my infinite respect and adoration).
glad you enjoyed the video, Juad
Very interesting. One pointer on de Gruyter. That is a Dutch or Flemish name. Your pronunciation was not quite right. If you have google translate speak the word ruiter in Dutch, you will hear the vowel sound for ui or uy, which is just an old way to write it. The G is also different in Dutch or Flemish. Again, have google speak ‘Goed’ in Dutch. You’ll get it right quickly, and hopefully wonder about some of the weirdnesses of languages. Greetings from the Netherlands!
thanks, Willem. And apologies for the mispronunciation.
Can someone tell me what this, "de Gruyter, 2018, pp. 662-663 is referring to?"
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The Phoenician Lilith the Owl footed goddess has been suggested to be an old PIE diety.
All this and brains too.
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I wonder if geneticists chose to label the earliest human YDNA A and the progenitor of all human MtDNA L0 after Adam and Lilith. L0 is located in South Africa, however and A is generally thought to have occurred in West Africa sometime later. Considering that all the Biblical action takes place around Mesopotamia, clearly Adam and Eve weren't in fact the first humans, as the Bible suggests. It does, however make it much more plausible that they lived 6000 years ago
I doubt there's research on that
@@drangelapuca it tells us more about the world-view limits of the early Biblical writers than anything else
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I'm confused, does anyone argue Lilith was in the Bible (Christian) or are you using a different meaning of Bible? Everyone says she's from Hebrew texts, not Christian. "The Bible" is a term usually used for Christianized Hebrew texts.
Lilith being the first wife is rabbinic opinion written over a melinium after the bible was witten
Hello Angela, oh yes, please make a more in-depth video about Lilith and how modern occult cults incorporated Her into Magick and Sorcery. It seems that there is a Lilith for the path on the Tree of Death (ie Qliphoth) and the other Lilith as we may know her (mother of demons, queen of succubi). Thank you for your videos :)
thanks, Alana
I got curious deeper now. And I read my bible, in Indonesian language(Bahasa), in Yesaya(Isaiah) 34:14, it called Hantu Malam. Hantu=ghost, malam = night. But in verse 15, it called Ular Pohon. Ular =snake, pohon = tree. I'm confused now. 😂😅 But still I wanna know more about this Lilith. 😄
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In the Epic of Gilgamesh, Lillith builds a nest in the top of Inanna favorite tree.
In the Genesis narrative, "Adam" was the name of both the man and the woman - Ish and Isha - the woman was not named Eve by Yahweh, but by Ish, the man. And since in the same place it says that God created Adam in the image of God, that means that God is both male and female. One of the earliest names of God was El Shaddai, The Great Breasty One, an image of maternal provision and nurturing...
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Like button smashed!!!! Very informative. Thank you. (Did you say she killed them with poison darks from her breasts? I think that was Austin Powers movie. jk). Peace best wishes. Happy Spring.
coming from he breasts, yes
Wasn't she on Cheers?
Nope 😅
I also thought that the video was interesting and I think that you are very beautiful.
Thanks, Andre
I want to know much More about lilith
more to come