You and a few other people I follow changed my whole perspective on what can survive here. One particular video where you mentioned how heavy a feeder a papaya plant is, changed the game for me! Thanks for all your great nuanced information and knowledge. 🙏
Thank you. Yeah, banana, papaya, and other trees that tend to produce fruits relatively young will appreciate all the nutrients they can get. The downside being that they tend to be short lived.
Perhaps fig trees was a bad example as many can get away with 100 or less chill hours. In my climate, we get about 1,000 chill hours. This allows us to grow apples and all sorts of stone fruits without issues.
Im realizing that winter is not so bad for my tropical fruit trees . Its been a mild beginning with temps staying over 45° and the mango trees are showing new growth . The cheremoya is losing some leaves and the fruit are the biggest ever , around large navel orange size . My wife is very happy to see them so big . The loquat trees are about 5 feet tall and still growing with fruit on them . The goal of having year round fruit is getting there
I learn so much from your videos! I planted two banana trees this summer just north of you in zone 9b. I came across your videos shortly after that and now I'm inspired to grow even more. If you have time or are looking for video ideas I'd love to hear what you would do if you were starting from scratch? For example, what trees would you plant first to help create the right microclimate? I'm growing inga in my greenhouse which I hope will grow quickly to provide shade. Maybe I'll get a few more banana trees this summer? What do you think the most important thing to do in year 1 and beyond is, if you nothing in your backyard? Thanks again. Love the videos.
Thank you. I have videos that basically covers all aspects of the growing of tropical fruit trees in non-native climate, specific to the Central Valley region. The thing too is the fact each tropical fruit trees or plant’s requirement are different. Here are some “starter” video that may help you: Starting A Tropical Fruit Tree Forest in USDA Zone 9B - Step 1 th-cam.com/video/r0ZnXXMBYrA/w-d-xo.html Starting A Tropical Fruit Tree Forest in USDA Zone 9B - Step 2 th-cam.com/video/WKZpkMwBWFQ/w-d-xo.html Starting A Tropical Fruit Tree Forest in USDA Zone 9B - Step 3 th-cam.com/video/MpCLprrjOKY/w-d-xo.html
Those videos were so good! I thought I had seen most of your stuff but it seems like theres always more :-). I learned from all 3 videos. Videos 3 helped a lot. When youre bored, I think a video along the lines of "what to do first with a zone 9b yard that has no microclimate" could be awesome. Cheers and thanks again for all you do.
The trees are looking fantastic! That Vietnamese guava looks amazing! That thing is huge! I might keep an eye out for some o those. I love guava, but the only ones I’ve seen at the Asian markets are the unripe white Thai guavas that taste like crunchy green apples. Still saved seeds from them for experimental growing…. I’m a bit less afraid of cold temperatures thanks to your videos, but I’m still afraid of our various forms of freezing precipitation…and sustained cold weather that can happen every 5 years or so…I’m brainstorming ice protection ideas and ground freeze prevention ideas as well…just in case…
Thank you. It’s hard to guard against a once in a lifetime freeze, like the ones seen in Texas where their temperatures drops down to 17°F, but for the most part, our freezes are relatively stable. We might get down to 26°F for several hours, but the extreme cold is relatively short.
@ yeah. Part of me wants to move back to California just for that reason alone, but I have some things I gotta do here before I can consider that, so it’s container growing for me till then I think. I’ll figure it all out. Got some experimenting using your methods to do as part of my project….tropical trees in ground in Oregon….i hear bananas and kiwi work here, so maybe there’s a chance for some things.
Nice. When I was in Portland during the fall, the it was slightly colder than my region, but not too bad. I would imagine many tropical fruit trees should be fine, provided you erect a temporary shelter around them during the extreme cold months.
That and heavy mulching. I can’t stress on the mulch enough, though in your case, due to the frequency of rain, I would move the mulch away from the trunk of the tree, to err on the side of caution.
Just this week alone we had back to back 29 degree overnight lows and a 30 low here in Citrus Heights east of Sacramento. I think going back to mid November my outdoor difital thermometer has recorded about 6-7 overnight lows at or blow freezing with even more betwen feeezing and 35. But my ice cream banana tree that sprouted in May is at about 9ft with no visible damage or cold stress. Even the pups show recent new growth. I do have a 2.5ft all ataulfo mango teee I cover but the foliage is still looking really green still healthy. My small hass avocado tree thats in my even colder backyard I haven't even been protecting and it looks normal. Big difference between the first and second winter in the ground. All my cold sensitive trees even the small tropical hibiscus (which looked dead last winter) has not been damaged by the cold.
The banana plant, being mostly water will immediately show damage, unlike some tropical fruit trees that shows visible signs of damage weeks or months later. The longer your trees are in the ground, the hardier they tend to be. For this reason, I remove any flowers or fruits from my newly planted trees for the first couple of years. Doing so allows the tree to acclimate and establish its root systems.
@@TropicalCentralValley correction I meant to say the ice cream banana tree doesn't show any visible cold damage or stress. All the leaves are still green and whole
Citrus Heights, that’s practically Sacramento. Luckily, there’s a tropical fruit tree nursery 15 miles from your area. That being the case, I can’t imagine that tropical fruit trees will have difficulties growing, albeit with some care.
Many thanks to you for this amazing channel! I would like your opinion on whether Amla (Indian Gooseberry) can grow and fruit in Northern California in Zone 9b.
You’re very welcome. Concerning the Indian Gooseberry and other tropical gooseberries, they technically can grow in USDA Zone 9b, though I do not have personal experience growing them. The trees were everywhere when I was in Southeast Asia a few years ago. I would imagine you’ll want to protect the trees when young during the winter months, but do know they can absolutely take the direct summer sun without any issues.
Thanks for this info I'm in the central valley area as well in a pass video you recommend Holly tone feterlizer. For tropicals do you recommend it for inga ice cream bean and white sapote ?
Thank you. I do for just about all of my trees, though, I actually do not directly fertilize my Inga trees as they are nitrogen fixing. Any nutrients they get are from nearby trees, due to the Inga trees’ massive root system.
I am in 10a in Corpus Christi, Texas. We used to be able to grow tropical fruit trees. Since Uri ( arctic blast ) in 2021, we get them every year. The even mature trees died. I think because it stays below freesing for more than 30 hours. During Uri, for more than 5 days below freezing. Does it ever stay below freezing for more than 24 hours where you live?
That’s a bummer. Yeah, much of Texas goes through some insane freezes; I remember the news about 17°F several years back. Specific to my region, on rare occasions, our night time temperatures go into the mid-30°’s, then dropping to 26°F the next morning. I say the entire event last 15 hours.
@TropicalCentralValley I think that is the key, it always gets above freezing at some point in the day where you are. For 12 years before Uri, we didn't have so much as a frost. Hoping to move to Sacramento next year and try tropicals again.
I got to tell you, your videos are bible to me. I am successfully growing many tropical trees in ojai valley which has similar weather like you. I wish one day you can visit my place, like wise I want to meet you and your kids(tropical fruit trees 😊) at Visalia. Please let me know how to contact you personally?
Absolutely, anytime. I’m available on Instagram at: Tropical Central Valley I pass by Ojai all the time, typically on my way to UCSB. Having stop by Ojai once, your place is very forested, and being in higher elevation, tropicals should thrive there.
My green house if finally done, keeping it around 12-15° above outside temps Working great all my super tropicals are handling the high 30’s- low 40’s no problem with out the wind
That’s awesome. Even if the greenhouse were to provide a few degrees difference, these few degrees could be the difference between life and death to some tropical fruit trees, especially once the temperature drops down to the magic number of 32°F where water particles crystallizes into ice, not good if this happens in inside a tree’s cellular structure.
I got mine from a friend who didn’t want it. That said, I do know the various tropical fruit tree nurseries in the Los Angeles and Sacramento region carry them.
Great video, your mangoes look really skinny and leggy, is that due to them being planted under the cover of other trees and looking for sunlight? They look like if they had fruit they would bend,
Thank you. Specific to my mango trees, it’s a combination of factors. I intentionally planted them under the protection of canopy trees to mostly protect them from my summer sun. This has the negative effects of the trees not getting enough energy, however, as the trees grow they should be getting the energy from nearby trees due to the wood wide web system.
@@TropicalCentralValley Nice, yeah I am in zone 9b also and am going to plant some in full sun exposed and some Tropicals closer together like you. The ones that are more exposed I will make mini greenhouses out of the bamboo I have and plastic to protect them for the first three to four years or so.
I have green jujube . I believe it’s Taiwan cultivar. I live in Sacramento. It is in the ground now. Do I need to cover it up during winter? Is it a cold sensitive tree?
The green tropical variety go by many names, including, Green Thornless Indian/Thai/Taiwanese Jujube. I’ve never had to protect mine as it is super frost resistant.
Thanks for your quick response. Btw I watched most of your videos. I have almost 1/4 acre lot size and have been growing deciduous trees for quite some time. Few years ago I am starting to grow more tropical trees like tropical guavas. Thanks to your videos.. I have been learning to grow more tropical trees like mango, papaya, and wax jambu.. i also successfully grow a jamun from a cutting that I got from a friend. Keep on making more videos.. I learned a lot from you Good luck with your Durian and mangosteen seedlings.
Although jackfruit trees are purportedly to grow in USDA Zone 9b, they are one of the more cold sensitive tropical fruit trees. When young, they need heavy cold and sun protection. They also prefer lots of humidity.
😂 These keyboard tropical fruit experts are funny. I guess you are just faking your whole channels geographical location and really live in Hawaii or so cal. lol I knew it! 😂😂
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Your videos always give me hope for growing tropicals in the Bay Area 9B.
You and a few other people I follow changed my whole perspective on what can survive here. One particular video where you mentioned how heavy a feeder a papaya plant is, changed the game for me! Thanks for all your great nuanced information and knowledge. 🙏
Thank you.
Yeah, banana, papaya, and other trees that tend to produce fruits relatively young will appreciate all the nutrients they can get.
The downside being that they tend to be short lived.
Looking good 👍
Thank you.
Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos, my friend, MERRY Christmas to you and your family.
Thank you.
You and your family as well.
Nice video. Last year, we had zero chill hours here in south Florida (11A) and my fig trees produced an abundance of fruit. They do so every year.
Perhaps fig trees was a bad example as many can get away with 100 or less chill hours.
In my climate, we get about 1,000 chill hours. This allows us to grow apples and all sorts of stone fruits without issues.
Zone 9A for me, Tucson AZ. Ice cream beans already got zapped for the second year in a row. Hope they bounce back
The wife has been picking pink Guava fruit. The best year ever after it got a strong root system. The key is often it just needs time.
Totally agreed. Even matured grafted or air layered trees, they will need a few years of break before being allowed to produce fruits.
Looks awesome
Thank you.
Im realizing that winter is not so bad for my tropical fruit trees . Its been a mild beginning with temps staying over 45° and the mango trees are showing new growth . The cheremoya is losing some leaves and the fruit are the biggest ever , around large navel orange size . My wife is very happy to see them so big . The loquat trees are about 5 feet tall and still growing with fruit on them . The goal of having year round fruit is getting there
That’s awesome. There’s nothing quite like the feeling of picking fresh fruits from your tree in the middle of winter.
I learn so much from your videos! I planted two banana trees this summer just north of you in zone 9b. I came across your videos shortly after that and now I'm inspired to grow even more. If you have time or are looking for video ideas I'd love to hear what you would do if you were starting from scratch? For example, what trees would you plant first to help create the right microclimate? I'm growing inga in my greenhouse which I hope will grow quickly to provide shade. Maybe I'll get a few more banana trees this summer? What do you think the most important thing to do in year 1 and beyond is, if you nothing in your backyard? Thanks again. Love the videos.
Thank you.
I have videos that basically covers all aspects of the growing of tropical fruit trees in non-native climate, specific to the Central Valley region. The thing too is the fact each tropical fruit trees or plant’s requirement are different.
Here are some “starter” video that may help you:
Starting A Tropical Fruit Tree Forest in USDA Zone 9B - Step 1
th-cam.com/video/r0ZnXXMBYrA/w-d-xo.html
Starting A Tropical Fruit Tree Forest in USDA Zone 9B - Step 2
th-cam.com/video/WKZpkMwBWFQ/w-d-xo.html
Starting A Tropical Fruit Tree Forest in USDA Zone 9B - Step 3
th-cam.com/video/MpCLprrjOKY/w-d-xo.html
Those videos were so good! I thought I had seen most of your stuff but it seems like theres always more :-). I learned from all 3 videos. Videos 3 helped a lot. When youre bored, I think a video along the lines of "what to do first with a zone 9b yard that has no microclimate" could be awesome. Cheers and thanks again for all you do.
Thank you.
I’ll have to create such video.
The trees are looking fantastic! That Vietnamese guava looks amazing! That thing is huge! I might keep an eye out for some o those. I love guava, but the only ones I’ve seen at the Asian markets are the unripe white Thai guavas that taste like crunchy green apples. Still saved seeds from them for experimental growing…. I’m a bit less afraid of cold temperatures thanks to your videos, but I’m still afraid of our various forms of freezing precipitation…and sustained cold weather that can happen every 5 years or so…I’m brainstorming ice protection ideas and ground freeze prevention ideas as well…just in case…
Thank you.
It’s hard to guard against a once in a lifetime freeze, like the ones seen in Texas where their temperatures drops down to 17°F, but for the most part, our freezes are relatively stable. We might get down to 26°F for several hours, but the extreme cold is relatively short.
@ yeah. Part of me wants to move back to California just for that reason alone, but I have some things I gotta do here before I can consider that, so it’s container growing for me till then I think. I’ll figure it all out. Got some experimenting using your methods to do as part of my project….tropical trees in ground in Oregon….i hear bananas and kiwi work here, so maybe there’s a chance for some things.
Nice. When I was in Portland during the fall, the it was slightly colder than my region, but not too bad. I would imagine many tropical fruit trees should be fine, provided you erect a temporary shelter around them during the extreme cold months.
@@TropicalCentralValley it is my hope that that strategy will be sufficient
That and heavy mulching. I can’t stress on the mulch enough, though in your case, due to the frequency of rain, I would move the mulch away from the trunk of the tree, to err on the side of caution.
Just this week alone we had back to back 29 degree overnight lows and a 30 low here in Citrus Heights east of Sacramento. I think going back to mid November my outdoor difital thermometer has recorded about 6-7 overnight lows at or blow freezing with even more betwen feeezing and 35. But my ice cream banana tree that sprouted in May is at about 9ft with no visible damage or cold stress. Even the pups show recent new growth. I do have a 2.5ft all ataulfo mango teee I cover but the foliage is still looking really green still healthy. My small hass avocado tree thats in my even colder backyard I haven't even been protecting and it looks normal. Big difference between the first and second winter in the ground. All my cold sensitive trees even the small tropical hibiscus (which looked dead last winter) has not been damaged by the cold.
The banana plant, being mostly water will immediately show damage, unlike some tropical fruit trees that shows visible signs of damage weeks or months later.
The longer your trees are in the ground, the hardier they tend to be. For this reason, I remove any flowers or fruits from my newly planted trees for the first couple of years.
Doing so allows the tree to acclimate and establish its root systems.
@@TropicalCentralValley correction I meant to say the ice cream banana tree doesn't show any visible cold damage or stress. All the leaves are still green and whole
That’s great, though, after several frosty sessions, the leaves may turn brown. This happens often to my banana plants, generally by March.
I am happy I discovered this Chanel because I never would have hoped to grow tropical in Citrus Heights
Citrus Heights, that’s practically Sacramento. Luckily, there’s a tropical fruit tree nursery 15 miles from your area.
That being the case, I can’t imagine that tropical fruit trees will have difficulties growing, albeit with some care.
Many thanks to you for this amazing channel! I would like your opinion on whether Amla (Indian Gooseberry) can grow and fruit in Northern California in Zone 9b.
You’re very welcome.
Concerning the Indian Gooseberry and other tropical gooseberries, they technically can grow in USDA Zone 9b, though I do not have personal experience growing them. The trees were everywhere when I was in Southeast Asia a few years ago.
I would imagine you’ll want to protect the trees when young during the winter months, but do know they can absolutely take the direct summer sun without any issues.
Thanks for this info I'm in the central valley area as well in a pass video you recommend Holly tone feterlizer. For tropicals do you recommend it for inga ice cream bean and white sapote ?
Thank you.
I do for just about all of my trees, though, I actually do not directly fertilize my Inga trees as they are nitrogen fixing. Any nutrients they get are from nearby trees, due to the Inga trees’ massive root system.
I am in 10a in Corpus Christi, Texas. We used to be able to grow tropical fruit trees. Since Uri ( arctic blast ) in 2021, we get them every year. The even mature trees died. I think because it stays below freesing for more than 30 hours. During Uri, for more than 5 days below freezing. Does it ever stay below freezing for more than 24 hours where you live?
That’s a bummer. Yeah, much of Texas goes through some insane freezes; I remember the news about 17°F several years back.
Specific to my region, on rare occasions, our night time temperatures go into the mid-30°’s, then dropping to 26°F the next morning. I say the entire event last 15 hours.
@TropicalCentralValley I think that is the key, it always gets above freezing at some point in the day where you are. For 12 years before Uri, we didn't have so much as a frost. Hoping to move to Sacramento next year and try tropicals again.
Yeah, there’s really only so much a tropical fruit can use it’s sugar and nutrients in its tissues to keep it’s liquid from crystallizing.
I got to tell you, your videos are bible to me. I am successfully growing many tropical trees in ojai valley which has similar weather like you. I wish one day you can visit my place, like wise I want to meet you and your kids(tropical fruit trees 😊) at Visalia. Please let me know how to contact you personally?
Absolutely, anytime. I’m available on Instagram at: Tropical Central Valley
I pass by Ojai all the time, typically on my way to UCSB. Having stop by Ojai once, your place is very forested, and being in higher elevation, tropicals should thrive there.
My green house if finally done, keeping it around 12-15° above outside temps
Working great all my super tropicals are handling the high 30’s- low 40’s no problem with out the wind
That’s awesome. Even if the greenhouse were to provide a few degrees difference, these few degrees could be the difference between life and death to some tropical fruit trees, especially once the temperature drops down to the magic number of 32°F where water particles crystallizes into ice, not good if this happens in inside a tree’s cellular structure.
@ plants can be a lot more resilient than one would think, with a little help, of course
Totally. These trees tried their best to make it in all climate.
Where did you buy your Indian jujube tree?
I got mine from a friend who didn’t want it.
That said, I do know the various tropical fruit tree nurseries in the Los Angeles and Sacramento region carry them.
@ I’m from Stockton, Ca, where can I get white sapote and Indian jujube?
The Mimosa Nursery in Sacramento:
Mimosa Nursery in Northern California - Sacramento!
th-cam.com/video/gZNdN2HceQ4/w-d-xo.html
@ thank you, I already watched almost all your videos and it give me inspiration on planting more tropical fruit trees.
You’re very welcome.
Great video, your mangoes look really skinny and leggy, is that due to them being planted under the cover of other trees and looking for sunlight? They look like if they had fruit they would bend,
Thank you.
Specific to my mango trees, it’s a combination of factors. I intentionally planted them under the protection of canopy trees to mostly protect them from my summer sun. This has the negative effects of the trees not getting enough energy, however, as the trees grow they should be getting the energy from nearby trees due to the wood wide web system.
@@TropicalCentralValley Nice, yeah I am in zone 9b also and am going to plant some in full sun exposed and some Tropicals closer together like you. The ones that are more exposed I will make mini greenhouses out of the bamboo I have and plastic to protect them for the first three to four years or so.
I have green jujube . I believe it’s Taiwan cultivar. I live in Sacramento. It is in the ground now. Do I need to cover it up during winter? Is it a cold sensitive tree?
The green tropical variety go by many names, including, Green Thornless Indian/Thai/Taiwanese Jujube.
I’ve never had to protect mine as it is super frost resistant.
Thanks for your quick response. Btw I watched most of your videos. I have almost 1/4 acre lot size and have been growing deciduous trees for quite some time. Few years ago I am starting to grow more tropical trees like tropical guavas. Thanks to your videos.. I have been learning to grow more tropical trees like mango, papaya, and wax jambu.. i also successfully grow a jamun from a cutting that I got from a friend. Keep on making more videos.. I learned a lot from you Good luck with your Durian and mangosteen seedlings.
Thank you.
Still mostly trial and error with the ultra sensitive such as the durian and mangosteen, but I’m sure it’ll eventually click.
Two years ago I tried to grow some jackfruits (grafted and seedling trees). They all are died. What kill them( The summer’s sun or winter cold)?
Although jackfruit trees are purportedly to grow in USDA Zone 9b, they are one of the more cold sensitive tropical fruit trees.
When young, they need heavy cold and sun protection. They also prefer lots of humidity.
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Thank you.
😂 These keyboard tropical fruit experts are funny. I guess you are just faking your whole channels geographical location and really live in Hawaii or so cal. lol I knew it! 😂😂
Yeah, my mad CGI skills made the videos believable.