Are tropical fruit trees supposed to be heat resistant ? That why it's called tropical fruit trees ,,TROPICAL ! they trive in the tropics,, pls enlighten me sir ,,
Supposed to, no, the same way they’re not “supposed” to grow in the Central Valley. The same way human beings aren’t supposed to live in Antarctica and yet, we have a colony of scientists living there. Hopefully this helps to explain the logic behind the growing of tropical fruit trees in non-native climates.
They actually do. The average lawn uses about 18,000 gallons of water per month. I did the math a few years back and I’m using less water than lawn people.
My in ground pink and white guavas are heavily mulched in my front yard, watered twice a day are going crazy! Just a few miles south of you. My neighbors are at 111* while my food forest keeps me at 100* with 52% humidity. My highest canopy is my mulberry, guavas and moringa are my 2nd story, my grape vines and lime/lemon/loquat/nectarines understory. All kinds of things in between❤❤❤
Helpful video. Second day over 100 here in Sonoma County in NorCal. Thank you for your inspiring videos. I'm trying mangos, bananas, guavas, avos, jaboticaba, dragon fruit, etc. More work than the apples, peaches and plums, but a lot of fun nonetheless.
Thank you. Your region should be slightly more favorable to the growing of tropical fruit trees, particularly in the crucial winter and summer months. A little microclimate always helps.
Another Central Valley follower here.. just found you today, trying to learn what grows good in zone 9b..I've got some mango seedlings, pineapple and some others started.. thank you for educating us, looking forward to learning more.
Very nice. Thank you. You’ll see, but just about any tropical fruit trees will grow here, particularly in our hot, dry summer heat. That said though, some do require some heavy protection while others just breeze through our summer and winter.
Yeah, HOA aren’t known for their friendliness to the jungle style of tropical fruit tree forest. That said, you may be able to get away with putting a few tropical fruit trees in the ground, provided they look attractive, however, you’ll be missing out on the microclimate.
I agree on Guava. Mine can even handle phoenix. My mangoes aren't as good. I heavily mulch but I don't plant anything around them like you do. Your mango out front looks so amazing. It has very thick branching like I would see in Florida
No, I estimate I only eat about 10% of it. The rest goes to family, friends, neighbors, passersby, etc. Any that dropped gets recycled back to the ground.
Thank you. I will be covering this topic in future video, however, my previous videos that touches on this topic is still very relevant: Starting A Tropical Fruit Tree Forest in USDA Zone 9B - Step 1 th-cam.com/video/r0ZnXXMBYrA/w-d-xo.html
Thank you. If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region or planning on taking a trip there, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them: Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour th-cam.com/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/w-d-xo.html Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour th-cam.com/video/gn1JDiz-riA/w-d-xo.html Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour th-cam.com/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/w-d-xo.html
Hi, How big is your lot? I just can't believe how dense those tree? I am very sure you just can keep track with them :). Are you trimming every day? What's the oldest tree in the garden? How old when the mango start to produce fruit? What's kind of mango is good for our central valley? I like Thai mango the most, but not sure it will service. Thanks again for another great video, I will recommended your channel to my friends. Have a great day!!!!
I’ve actually made videos that goes into details on your questions, but to summarize. 2,000 square feet. No. 11 years, but most are about 6 years. 2 to 3 years. Just about all of them, but the Manila is perhaps the most forgiving.
Great looking yard brotha. I want to try and create something like that in the front piece by piece in the upcoming years as I dislike wasting water on grass. I can start most of these from seed no problem. What should I use to keep the humidity locked in/to protect the seedlings in the mean time?
I would plant some “guard” trees first. Trees that grow insanely fasts and is immune to the sun and wind. In my case, I have the Sugarcane Jujube to the right, next to my driveway and GA-866 to my left, next to the neighbor’s yard . All of my tropical fruit trees are then sandwiched between these guard trees.
I know a lot of folks in AZ use fish ponds in the middle of their tropicals to increase humidity. You’re talking about a front yard, so a pond is probably out of the question, but a fountain or similar water feature might work.
I had dabbled with a small pond in my backyard several years back, but all of my tropical fishes died due to a water heater malfunction. Since then, a Yellow Mangosteen has been planted where the pond used to be.
Totally, they grow quick and takes the heat without any issues. They do go deciduous in winter, which is a benefit as this allows more sunlight to the nearby tropicals.
Yeah the pineapple guava too can totally handle direct sun. Mine was about 6 inches tall, and handled the sun without issues. White sapote, no. Mine is going 6 years and its young foliage still gets burned.
@@TropicalCentralValley Same here. I suspect it suffers from the sun/high temps and also from the constant watering I give it in the summer. Leaves are yellowing and dropping left and right (even under a little shade cloth).
Specific to the yellowing and dropping of the leaves, this could be due to too much water or too little water. I’d keep an eye on the soil to ensure it’s constantly moist to the touch.
Thank you. Roughly 9,100 gallons during the summer months; still way better than the average of 13,000 that folks used to water lawn. No, I do not use any grey water.
Outside temperature in Tropical Countries such as Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore just to name a few do not reach 115 F or 46 C and dry like in Northern California. The average daily temperature there is about 29C and humidity level there is 100%
I have been. It’s easy enough for me to erect a small temporary greenhouse in that corner of my yard. This also allows me to protect nearby sensitive tropicals such as the Sugar Apple, Canistel, Wax Jambu, etc.
That’s interesting. All of mine have been able to take my 26°F winter days, even when just a foot tall without any issues. Wax Apple/Jambu on the other hand, is extremely cold sensitive.
Hey TCV, been a rough week! I've had my Guava plant thin out a good amount of pollinated buds and was wondering if your trees do the same? I'm unsure if it's this normal or not, and it's got me pretty down. It's the first time flowering and I got it under shade cloth
All of mine hasn’t dropped their fruits, however, it can be normal for young trees or first timers as they “practice” setting fruits. With the weeklong 112°F to 117°F temperature, the tree may simply be stressed and decided to drop the fruits in order to conserve its energy as it tries to cool down.
I really like it, especially when ripen on the tree. It’s super creamy. I’d get all the different varieties if you can. Even a Tommy Atkins will taste super good when you grow it yourself as you’ll likely let the fruit ripen on the tree.
Unfortunately, there are no nurseries in the Central Valley that carries tropical fruit trees. It may be worth a day’s trip to the Los Angeles region, where they are a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them: Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour th-cam.com/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/w-d-xo.html Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour th-cam.com/video/gn1JDiz-riA/w-d-xo.html Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour th-cam.com/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/w-d-xo.html
Typically around September to October, but the fruit can be left on the tree until the cold months, into December. Mostly USDA Zone 9a and 9b. Specific to my location, I’m in USDA Zone 9b.
Not necessarily. The climate is mostly the same, for the folks in the major cities, ranging from Bakersfield to Redding, which are mostly USDA Zone 9b.
For the most part, I do not. Having said that, there are certain winter preparations and techniques associated with keeping them alive. I have made a number of other videos that covers this topic.
Perhaps the Inga as in their native climate of the Amazon rainforest, it does flood quite a bit. The jaboticoba too can (temporarily) handle low oxygen soil. Beyond that, if possible, I’d avoid flood irrigation and instead, try to mimic the natural rain cycle where it rains just about everyday for short durations.
They do okay, or at least all of mine has, however, they would appreciate some microclimate protection as the new growth will get burned when in direct 115°F sun.
Govee Bluetooth sensors: a.co/d/07swg1JZ I have both the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi models. The only downside is that the device aren’t water proof. This being the case, during the raining months, I have them in a Ziplock bag.
That’s the thing, tropical fruit trees take less water, at least mine has. Here’s a video that covers the topic: How Much Water Is Used on 200+ Tropical Fruit Trees in California's Central Valley th-cam.com/video/qgS7ziOsqHU/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, I find they thrive in the heat. Another potential issue worth looking into may be with the sodium in your water, due to your proximity to the ocean, as mango trees absolutely hate salty water.
Are tropical fruit trees supposed to be heat resistant ? That why it's called tropical fruit trees ,,TROPICAL ! they trive in the tropics,, pls enlighten me sir ,,
Supposed to, no, the same way they’re not “supposed” to grow in the Central Valley.
The same way human beings aren’t supposed to live in Antarctica and yet, we have a colony of scientists living there.
Hopefully this helps to explain the logic behind the growing of tropical fruit trees in non-native climates.
Tropical also includes heavy rainfall
Not true. Just lots of water, including from my faucets.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the average lawn uses more water than your jungle!😊
They actually do. The average lawn uses about 18,000 gallons of water per month.
I did the math a few years back and I’m using less water than lawn people.
My in ground pink and white guavas are heavily mulched in my front yard, watered twice a day are going crazy! Just a few miles south of you. My neighbors are at 111* while my food forest keeps me at 100* with 52% humidity. My highest canopy is my mulberry, guavas and moringa are my 2nd story, my grape vines and lime/lemon/loquat/nectarines understory. All kinds of things in between❤❤❤
That’s awesome.
Imagine if we all have trees in our yard, the city would be much cooler, temperature wise.
This heat is brutal, but your food forest is thriving and looking great! I always appreciate your updates and tours. It's relaxing and inspiring.
Thank you.
Helpful video. Second day over 100 here in Sonoma County in NorCal. Thank you for your inspiring videos. I'm trying mangos, bananas, guavas, avos, jaboticaba, dragon fruit, etc. More work than the apples, peaches and plums, but a lot of fun nonetheless.
Thank you.
Your region should be slightly more favorable to the growing of tropical fruit trees, particularly in the crucial winter and summer months. A little microclimate always helps.
Another Central Valley follower here.. just found you today, trying to learn what grows good in zone 9b..I've got some mango seedlings, pineapple and some others started.. thank you for educating us, looking forward to learning more.
Very nice. Thank you.
You’ll see, but just about any tropical fruit trees will grow here, particularly in our hot, dry summer heat. That said though, some do require some heavy protection while others just breeze through our summer and winter.
I live in an HOA neighborhood, they would go crazy if I grow these many trees in the front yard.
Yeah, HOA aren’t known for their friendliness to the jungle style of tropical fruit tree forest. That said, you may be able to get away with putting a few tropical fruit trees in the ground, provided they look attractive, however, you’ll be missing out on the microclimate.
I agree on Guava. Mine can even handle phoenix. My mangoes aren't as good. I heavily mulch but I don't plant anything around them like you do. Your mango out front looks so amazing. It has very thick branching like I would see in Florida
Thank you.
We’ve been getting Phoenix daytime temperature for the past 2 weeks; everything still looks good.
Your backyard looks like a great place for an outdoor shower.
Definitely, the trees would love the extra water.
Brother are you even able to eat all this wonderful fruit? You must end up baking a lot or giving it away to friends?
No, I estimate I only eat about 10% of it. The rest goes to family, friends, neighbors, passersby, etc. Any that dropped gets recycled back to the ground.
I love your videos so much! Could you do some more about how you propagate and start your seedlings? I find your videos super informative!
Thank you.
I will be covering this topic in future video, however, my previous videos that touches on this topic is still very relevant:
Starting A Tropical Fruit Tree Forest in USDA Zone 9B - Step 1
th-cam.com/video/r0ZnXXMBYrA/w-d-xo.html
Hi! Love what you have!
Where do you buy your trees?
I have family in central CA too and they would love to grow some of those trees too. Thanks
Thank you.
If you’re nearing the Los Angeles region or planning on taking a trip there, there’s actually a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them:
Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
th-cam.com/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/w-d-xo.html
Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
th-cam.com/video/gn1JDiz-riA/w-d-xo.html
Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
th-cam.com/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/w-d-xo.html
Hi, How big is your lot? I just can't believe how dense those tree? I am very sure you just can keep track with them :). Are you trimming every day? What's the oldest tree in the garden? How old when the mango start to produce fruit? What's kind of mango is good for our central valley? I like Thai mango the most, but not sure it will service. Thanks again for another great video, I will recommended your channel to my friends. Have a great day!!!!
I’ve actually made videos that goes into details on your questions, but to summarize.
2,000 square feet.
No.
11 years, but most are about 6 years.
2 to 3 years.
Just about all of them, but the Manila is perhaps the most forgiving.
Great looking yard brotha. I want to try and create something like that in the front piece by piece in the upcoming years as I dislike wasting water on grass. I can start most of these from seed no problem. What should I use to keep the humidity locked in/to protect the seedlings in the mean time?
I would plant some “guard” trees first. Trees that grow insanely fasts and is immune to the sun and wind. In my case, I have the Sugarcane Jujube to the right, next to my driveway and GA-866 to my left, next to the neighbor’s yard . All of my tropical fruit trees are then sandwiched between these guard trees.
I know a lot of folks in AZ use fish ponds in the middle of their tropicals to increase humidity. You’re talking about a front yard, so a pond is probably out of the question, but a fountain or similar water feature might work.
I had dabbled with a small pond in my backyard several years back, but all of my tropical fishes died due to a water heater malfunction.
Since then, a Yellow Mangosteen has been planted where the pond used to be.
@@TropicalCentralValley Thank you brother I'll get started on the sugar cane jujube and GA-866 asap!
Totally, they grow quick and takes the heat without any issues. They do go deciduous in winter, which is a benefit as this allows more sunlight to the nearby tropicals.
I caught a glimpse of that feijoa. How does that do in the very high temps? What about White Sapote?
Yeah the pineapple guava too can totally handle direct sun. Mine was about 6 inches tall, and handled the sun without issues.
White sapote, no. Mine is going 6 years and its young foliage still gets burned.
@@TropicalCentralValley Same here. I suspect it suffers from the sun/high temps and also from the constant watering I give it in the summer. Leaves are yellowing and dropping left and right (even under a little shade cloth).
Specific to the yellowing and dropping of the leaves, this could be due to too much water or too little water. I’d keep an eye on the soil to ensure it’s constantly moist to the touch.
Beautiful have a question what’s those plants and tree you got 2:56
Pink flowering plants are crown-of-thorns while the large leaves are taro plants.
@@TropicalCentralValley thank you very much keep posting videos I enjoy watching them
Love what you’re doing. Would you mind sharing how much water you are using in a normal summer season? Are you utilizing gray water?
Thank you.
Roughly 9,100 gallons during the summer months; still way better than the average of 13,000 that folks used to water lawn.
No, I do not use any grey water.
Great video sir! Do your monstera ever fruit as well?
I actually do not have any monstera plants. The one by the Red Malaysian Guava resembles a monstera, but isn’t.
@@TropicalCentralValley Oh ok. What is it?
@@Gwick-p8wlooks like a split leaf philodendron
Outside temperature in Tropical Countries such as Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore just to name a few do not reach 115 F or 46 C and dry like in Northern California. The average daily temperature there is about 29C and humidity level there is 100%
I agree, hence the additional considerations in order to get these tropical fruit trees to grow in their non-native climate.
Sir, do you protect your Malayan apple in the winter? Thanks.
I have been. It’s easy enough for me to erect a small temporary greenhouse in that corner of my yard.
This also allows me to protect nearby sensitive tropicals such as the Sugar Apple, Canistel, Wax Jambu, etc.
I live in riverside CA and rose apples are extremely sensitive to cold.
That’s interesting. All of mine have been able to take my 26°F winter days, even when just a foot tall without any issues.
Wax Apple/Jambu on the other hand, is extremely cold sensitive.
Crazy valley Temps… we are only gonna get hotter tomorrow!
Totally. It’s much better than the forecast from a week ago where it was saying this weekend was going to be 122°F.
Yeah, it's awful!
Totally, and it gets worst every year.
@@TropicalCentralValley I know :( :( :(
Hey TCV, been a rough week! I've had my Guava plant thin out a good amount of pollinated buds and was wondering if your trees do the same? I'm unsure if it's this normal or not, and it's got me pretty down. It's the first time flowering and I got it under shade cloth
All of mine hasn’t dropped their fruits, however, it can be normal for young trees or first timers as they “practice” setting fruits.
With the weeklong 112°F to 117°F temperature, the tree may simply be stressed and decided to drop the fruits in order to conserve its energy as it tries to cool down.
How much do you like your corriente mango?How does it compare to your manila? m getting one this friday!
I really like it, especially when ripen on the tree. It’s super creamy.
I’d get all the different varieties if you can. Even a Tommy Atkins will taste super good when you grow it yourself as you’ll likely let the fruit ripen on the tree.
@@TropicalCentralValley That’s great! Can’t wait to get mine now!
Best of all, they fruit fairly early, generally 2 or 3 years.
Where do you get your trees in the Central Valley?
Unfortunately, there are no nurseries in the Central Valley that carries tropical fruit trees.
It may be worth a day’s trip to the Los Angeles region, where they are a good number of tropical fruit tree nurseries in the area. Here’s some videos I did touring some of them:
Champa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
th-cam.com/video/o1-Adgg5DKQ/w-d-xo.html
Emily Garden Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
th-cam.com/video/gn1JDiz-riA/w-d-xo.html
Mimosa Nursery - Spring 2022 Tour
th-cam.com/video/YfOMOSsuGIo/w-d-xo.html
When does the Manila mango ripen? And what zone is Central Valley?
Typically around September to October, but the fruit can be left on the tree until the cold months, into December.
Mostly USDA Zone 9a and 9b. Specific to my location, I’m in USDA Zone 9b.
Central valley is 450 miles long from north to south and it has at least 4 different hardiness zones. From what zone are you from?
Not necessarily. The climate is mostly the same, for the folks in the major cities, ranging from Bakersfield to Redding, which are mostly USDA Zone 9b.
What about during winter? How do you protect your tropical fruit trees?
For the most part, I do not.
Having said that, there are certain winter preparations and techniques associated with keeping them alive. I have made a number of other videos that covers this topic.
How have you dealt with service lines water,gas,sewage etc
I’m not sure I understand your question. Can you clarify?
Are there any trees you would recommend for flood irrigated properties? It takes about 12hrs to fully soak in. I'm in AZ zone 9b.
Perhaps the Inga as in their native climate of the Amazon rainforest, it does flood quite a bit.
The jaboticoba too can (temporarily) handle low oxygen soil.
Beyond that, if possible, I’d avoid flood irrigation and instead, try to mimic the natural rain cycle where it rains just about everyday for short durations.
@TropicalCentralValley I've lost two to the cold.
The Inga can be a bit cold sensitive, but the jaboticaba should be able to handle the cold without issues.
@@TropicalCentralValley thank you
Do you have any recommendations for understory plants?
How do longans do in our heat?
They do okay, or at least all of mine has, however, they would appreciate some microclimate protection as the new growth will get burned when in direct 115°F sun.
Hello! Where did you get those devices to check temps and humidity?
Govee Bluetooth sensors:
a.co/d/07swg1JZ
I have both the Bluetooth and Wi-Fi models. The only downside is that the device aren’t water proof. This being the case, during the raining months, I have them in a Ziplock bag.
What about water? Here in California we are becoming more desert like with water supply less every year.
That’s the thing, tropical fruit trees take less water, at least mine has.
Here’s a video that covers the topic:
How Much Water Is Used on 200+ Tropical Fruit Trees in California's Central Valley
th-cam.com/video/qgS7ziOsqHU/w-d-xo.html
Moral of the story. Plant trees!!
Totally. It’s a win-win for everything.
Do you have a hoa?
Luckily, no, though having an HOA wouldn’t be a bad idea, as some of my neighbors have let their yards go.
Only problem I have with mango here is the Bay Area is lack of vigor mines push 3-4 bursts of growth a year :/
Yeah, I find they thrive in the heat.
Another potential issue worth looking into may be with the sodium in your water, due to your proximity to the ocean, as mango trees absolutely hate salty water.
Bro I have that same shirt 🤣
Nice. Must be from Kohl’s. Super comfortable and, 2 for $20, not a bad deal.
@@TropicalCentralValley yup that’s right. Return Amazon stuff and come out with cheap shirts 🤣
When it is that hot, who cares about the trees? I having a cold beer and checking out the girls.
The difference in lifestyle. It’s all about personal choice, however, some do come with great long term rewards that lasts for generations.
115. Take the shirt off.
Yeah, a sure way to get a quick tan.