Very interesting. It seems like they placed a 990 driver in the 880 housing for better bass extension, then added the tuning material from the 177X GO to tame the treble. The headband was reused from the custom one. It's a Frankenstein of all their previous headphones. Would be a fun project to swap the stock driver with the one from the 600ohm 990, to make a super TYGR
According to Beyerdynamic the Tygr 300 is "based on the frequency response of the DT990 Pro". But there is some differences because of the acoustic fleece taming the sibilance of the treble.
Ive seen alot of reviewers, and like to compare tech myself. Been sceptikal about which one i actually want, the way you actually review is magnificent, and taking them apart to compare actual parts is extremely appreciated. You my friend deserve to get famous, have a merry christmas
I love my modded dt770s, so I've thought about getting the 990s, but I'm not enough of an audiophile to justify getting a amp (and I'm too cheap anyway), so this convinced me to get these. Loving these too.
I just use a Scarlett interface which can power 250 ohm cans, phantom power a condenser mic and offers live monitoring which I can't live without. Honestly a lot of people pan the 990 pros for the cranked high end but no other headphone has managed to make music sound as magical. Like I enjoy my HD600s but I'd throw them off a bridge for 990s.
Just got the TYGR 300 R and found the sound too muffled. I replaced the foam with the ones from the DT770 and like it way more like that. So much clearer.
Just ordered the HD600 kit from you, can’t wait! Great video as usual, it made me regret not buying the detachable cable mod and the loading dampening kit for my 770. I have a set of Grado 125, would be cool to see you mod some Grados. Have a nice weekend 👌🏼
"gaming" headphones are kinda a scam IMO. I game a fair amount, I used to use gaming headphones. Still have a pair somewhere I think. But after getting a desk mic and thus not needing one on my headphones I got some beyerdynamic 1770 pros. MILES better for gaming and music. For gaming there's only 2 needs that are a bit different to normal music. 1) being able to understand people you're in a voice call with and 2) being able to hear small details in the in game sound to find stuff. For both of those things what you want is a clear sound that isn't tinted too much and a good presentation of detail is a nice bonus. Where do you find those things? Not in gaming headphones I tell you that much. If you want to game and you feel your headphones are needed for that specifically I always recommend beyer 770 or 990 depending on environment. But the main things that matter are detail and right left channel separation. For which you'll just want good headphones and IMO reasonably flat "pro" headphones do best. Having used a bunch of gaming headsets I don't remember the name of none were any better than a pair of AKG712s. My gaming headsets were a similar price range and were well reviewed at the time. Comparing it to the more high end headphones I own now that I bought broken and repaired it's no contest whatsoever. To anyone thinking about buying gaming headphones, please look into buying a separate mic and some good clean normal headphones. They'll last you longer and do the job so much better. I repair headphones for a hobby. So I've heard a lot of pairs of headphones. Gaming headphones break easier, sound worse, cost more and are harder to repair. Also ugly but that's personal taste, I just can't stand the look of "gaming" anything.
Nice advice mate. I am into that way. Kinda struggle. Building my new rig and searching for headphones and separate microphone. I am thinking of beyerdynamic. Why you didn't refer to DT880? And after that i am thinking about the ohms... What shall i choose. I don't have an amplifier. Probably i will get but not now i think. Suggestions? My motherboard is tuf h570 pro.
I am not really an expert on gaming but possibly the DT990 32ohm as it will run off the controller and has good sound staging but the treble may be a bit harsh - if you want a less harsh sound then the tyger 300 or the DT900 proX if you can go up in price a bit
hi always enjoy your videos! I recently try modding them for fun, it would be curious to see the measurement of tygr 300r with the inner foam of 990 pro and the 990 pro with the thicker inner foam of the tygr 300 r
hi u alright @custom cans.. wondering can u advise me ive tried solder my dt 990 for the third time and think i ruined the motherboard bit should i but bin them now : ( ha
using my dt990 while watching this video ,brilliant for critical listening,everything sounds as intended but if you got the money the dt1990 pro are a step up,question though can the dt1990 be balanced?ie detachable cable.
The 1990s are not a step up in my opinion. I sold mine as the treble couldnt be tamed without ruining their magic. Never thought id look at beyers again but took a chance on 2nd hand pair of tygrs and out of the box thought they were bad, bloated bass and too much treble but after eq' down the mid bass, increase vocals and turned down treble minutely they now sound better than any other headphones iv ever owned they are amazing for music i could go on but wont bore you with tonality and as for gaming dolby atmos headphone has an eq so can remove the bass so that footsteps dont get drowned plus their imaging is phenomenally precise. Others mention that the 560s are better for gaming but i disagree this headphone can be eq'd to sound like the 560s but technically the 560s could never be a tygr.
my DT990 Pro Limited Edition 250 Ohm are a bit fucked (dropped at least 200 times) and maybe im getting new ones (maybe i should just replace the broken parts. or do i get the Tygr 300 ? or the DT900 Pro X, but im not sure if double the price is worth it. Imo DT990 Pro is amazing for gaming and everything else. i will never go back to fucking shit headsets that cost more, break and sound awful
I am probably not the best person to ask but... if you love the sound of the 990 250 ohm then you might as well stick with those and we sell a kit to upgrade them if you fancy squeezing a little more goodness out of them. The DT900 Pro X are really good and easier to drive so can run better straight from PCs or consoles but as you said - they are more money. The DT900 do sound better but the 990 probably give more bang per buck
I'm a 56 years young Greek an since two weeks have a tinnitus... I have to change my HyperX ( for gaming) and ask you: TYGR 300 or 990 PRO 80 Ohm 🤔 For 80 Ohm is a Sharkoon DAC PRO S2 enough and not expensive.
@@cyberc0l0mbiana If you have have a go on some, that is always best. Neither are as harsh as the 990 but I think out of the two.. the TYGR 300 is probably a bit smoother
@@CustomCans thanks so much for the quick response, appreciate you! Could you please recommend a good “treble frequency” test that I can listen to with both? I’m new to this 🎧 world so want to make sure I don’t “unknowingly” aggravate my tinnitus!
Those are some pioneer SE-L40. They are one of my favourite headphones from a looks point of view. I will be giving them a refurb and maybe resto mod some modern drivers into them in a video next month hopefully
@@CustomCans I appreciate your review , already liked and subscribed to your channel. I'm inbetween TYGR and dt900 pro x , i will trust my feeling and order dt 900 pro x ( because its newer version. ) and order fox mic because of how its effective i see in your video. I feel like i can sit comfortably at my gaming chair and still talk and communicate with that mic by the distance.
UPVOTE!!!! I think I'm getting the Tygr 300, because I cannot decide whether 990 or 880 Pro to get and I also can't decide if I need a DAC. I also heard it's better for sensitive ears or even tinnitus. Thank you!
Very interesting. It seems like they placed a 990 driver in the 880 housing for better bass extension, then added the tuning material from the 177X GO to tame the treble. The headband was reused from the custom one. It's a Frankenstein of all their previous headphones. Would be a fun project to swap the stock driver with the one from the 600ohm 990, to make a super TYGR
That id one of my favourite things about beyerdynamics - the parts are all so interchangeable
@@CustomCans hey, are you planning on doing a mod video/kit fot the tygr? Would be cool
According to Beyerdynamic the Tygr 300 is "based on the frequency response of the DT990 Pro". But there is some differences because of the acoustic fleece taming the sibilance of the treble.
These are the 2 cans I’m probably gonna get at next after loving my 770’s to death, I still love them and use them every day
Yes - If you have been enjoying the 770 it will be interesting to hear one of these open backed ones.
Ive seen alot of reviewers, and like to compare tech myself. Been sceptikal about which one i actually want, the way you actually review is magnificent, and taking them apart to compare actual parts is extremely appreciated. You my friend deserve to get famous, have a merry christmas
Thanks - Glad you found it helpful
Thanks for this video. I've been hoping for this one.
Yes, I have been meaning to do it for a while just not had the time
I'm a Tyger owner, and I love them. I feel like they're sharp and crisp, but the ohm difference makes a huge difference between the two
Yeh.. they are much easier to drive
wearing my tygrs currently :) awesome christmas gift
I wish to see the measurements with swapped filters.
I love my modded dt770s, so I've thought about getting the 990s, but I'm not enough of an audiophile to justify getting a amp (and I'm too cheap anyway), so this convinced me to get these. Loving these too.
same, i was actually a "real" audiophile but ended up selling my amps, I could justify the minimal added value..to my ears at least
I just use a Scarlett interface which can power 250 ohm cans, phantom power a condenser mic and offers live monitoring which I can't live without.
Honestly a lot of people pan the 990 pros for the cranked high end but no other headphone has managed to make music sound as magical.
Like I enjoy my HD600s but I'd throw them off a bridge for 990s.
Just got the TYGR 300 R and found the sound too muffled. I replaced the foam with the ones from the DT770 and like it way more like that. So much clearer.
Good idea ;)
Just ordered the HD600 kit from you, can’t wait!
Great video as usual, it made me regret not buying the detachable cable mod and the loading dampening kit for my 770.
I have a set of Grado 125, would be cool to see you mod some Grados. Have a nice weekend 👌🏼
;) The HD600 kits have been flying out recently,
Great review, but could you also compare Beyerdynamic TYGR 300 and Beyerdynamic DT880 Edition 32 Ohm?
Maybe... they are not models we normally keep in stock so we may not get round to it for a while
Thanks for this review. 😎👍
Glad it was helpful!
"gaming" headphones are kinda a scam IMO. I game a fair amount, I used to use gaming headphones. Still have a pair somewhere I think. But after getting a desk mic and thus not needing one on my headphones I got some beyerdynamic 1770 pros. MILES better for gaming and music. For gaming there's only 2 needs that are a bit different to normal music. 1) being able to understand people you're in a voice call with and 2) being able to hear small details in the in game sound to find stuff. For both of those things what you want is a clear sound that isn't tinted too much and a good presentation of detail is a nice bonus. Where do you find those things? Not in gaming headphones I tell you that much. If you want to game and you feel your headphones are needed for that specifically I always recommend beyer 770 or 990 depending on environment. But the main things that matter are detail and right left channel separation. For which you'll just want good headphones and IMO reasonably flat "pro" headphones do best.
Having used a bunch of gaming headsets I don't remember the name of none were any better than a pair of AKG712s. My gaming headsets were a similar price range and were well reviewed at the time. Comparing it to the more high end headphones I own now that I bought broken and repaired it's no contest whatsoever.
To anyone thinking about buying gaming headphones, please look into buying a separate mic and some good clean normal headphones. They'll last you longer and do the job so much better. I repair headphones for a hobby. So I've heard a lot of pairs of headphones. Gaming headphones break easier, sound worse, cost more and are harder to repair. Also ugly but that's personal taste, I just can't stand the look of "gaming" anything.
Nice advice mate. I am into that way. Kinda struggle. Building my new rig and searching for headphones and separate microphone. I am thinking of beyerdynamic. Why you didn't refer to DT880? And after that i am thinking about the ohms... What shall i choose. I don't have an amplifier. Probably i will get but not now i think. Suggestions? My motherboard is tuf h570 pro.
@@mikep6040 hd560’s
I listen to music and play games equally, would you recommend the 990s over the TYGRs? The TYGRs are £10 dearer but that's not exactly a huge deal.
Hey bro, i need help...
Which byerdynamic should i get ?
(PS5) (Gaming)
I am not really an expert on gaming but possibly the DT990 32ohm as it will run off the controller and has good sound staging but the treble may be a bit harsh - if you want a less harsh sound then the tyger 300 or the DT900 proX if you can go up in price a bit
I wonder if Beyerdynamic ever made an open back headphone.
Lol... I have not seen a fully open one yet
hi always enjoy your videos! I recently try modding them for fun, it would be curious to see the measurement of tygr 300r with the inner foam of 990 pro and the 990 pro with the thicker inner foam of the tygr 300 r
Yes i was thinking that, i will have to try it
@@DeSoLLaTeMEMLA Yes, It should be possible to remove the grill from the inside and replace the fabric
hi u alright @custom cans.. wondering can u advise me ive tried solder my dt 990 for the third time and think i ruined the motherboard bit should i but bin them now : (
ha
Sorry it is not the kind of thing I can help with without having a good look at the drivers
The highs on the tygr300 same as custom one pro?
No the highs are a bit more subdued on the tygr300 in my experience
I subscribed. It's just science. ;)
using my dt990 while watching this video ,brilliant for critical listening,everything sounds as intended but if you got the money the dt1990 pro are a step up,question though can the dt1990 be balanced?ie detachable cable.
We offer a service to convert the 1990 to balanced. You need to swap out the 3 pin socket for a 4 pin one and a balanced cable
The 1990s are not a step up in my opinion. I sold mine as the treble couldnt be tamed without ruining their magic.
Never thought id look at beyers again but took a chance on 2nd hand pair of tygrs and out of the box thought they were bad, bloated bass and too much treble but after eq' down the mid bass, increase vocals and turned down treble minutely they now sound better than any other headphones iv ever owned they are amazing for music i could go on but wont bore you with tonality and as for gaming dolby atmos headphone has an eq so can remove the bass so that footsteps dont get drowned plus their imaging is phenomenally precise.
Others mention that the 560s are better for gaming but i disagree this headphone can be eq'd to sound like the 560s but technically the 560s could never be a tygr.
my DT990 Pro Limited Edition 250 Ohm are a bit fucked (dropped at least 200 times) and maybe im getting new ones (maybe i should just replace the broken parts. or do i get the Tygr 300 ? or the DT900 Pro X, but im not sure if double the price is worth it.
Imo DT990 Pro is amazing for gaming and everything else. i will never go back to fucking shit headsets that cost more, break and sound awful
I am probably not the best person to ask but... if you love the sound of the 990 250 ohm then you might as well stick with those and we sell a kit to upgrade them if you fancy squeezing a little more goodness out of them. The DT900 Pro X are really good and easier to drive so can run better straight from PCs or consoles but as you said - they are more money. The DT900 do sound better but the 990 probably give more bang per buck
Which one has the better sound?
It is totally down to personal taste - I think most people would probably prefer the TYGR but the 990 still has a certain magic to it
I'm a 56 years young Greek an since two weeks have a tinnitus...
I have to change my HyperX ( for gaming) and ask you: TYGR 300 or 990 PRO 80 Ohm 🤔
For 80 Ohm is a Sharkoon DAC PRO S2 enough and not expensive.
I think the TYGR would be the best option as the treble is a bit smoother and less likely to affect your tinnitus
@@CustomCans would you still recommend TYGR over the DT 900 Pro X? Which one has a smoother treble (e.g. for those who suffer from tinnitus)?
@@cyberc0l0mbiana If you have have a go on some, that is always best. Neither are as harsh as the 990 but I think out of the two.. the TYGR 300 is probably a bit smoother
@@CustomCans thanks so much for the quick response, appreciate you! Could you please recommend a good “treble frequency” test that I can listen to with both? I’m new to this 🎧 world so want to make sure I don’t “unknowingly” aggravate my tinnitus!
What are those beauties to our right and your left behind you?
Those are some pioneer SE-L40. They are one of my favourite headphones from a looks point of view. I will be giving them a refurb and maybe resto mod some modern drivers into them in a video next month hopefully
Hi brother, are you talking from that Beyerdynamic Fox mic ?
Yes
@@CustomCans I appreciate your review , already liked and subscribed to your channel. I'm inbetween TYGR and dt900 pro x , i will trust my feeling and order dt 900 pro x ( because its newer version. ) and order fox mic because of how its effective i see in your video. I feel like i can sit comfortably at my gaming chair and still talk and communicate with that mic by the distance.
Paper :0
intelli mouse oO
You can't beat a classic ;)
UPVOTE!!!!
I think I'm getting the Tygr 300, because I cannot decide whether 990 or 880 Pro to get and I also can't decide if I need a DAC. I also heard it's better for sensitive ears or even tinnitus. Thank you!
Yeh - the tygr 3oo or the DT900 Pro X would be better if you are sensitive to high frequencies.
The difference is u