First of all the compass plane does have many uses in boat building but the term spiling is not used in conjunction with a plane, at least not in boat building. But then with English language, who knows? Spiling in boat building usually refers to transferring the shape from one object or edge to another, IE pattern to part or one plank edge to the next. I know that's beside the point so back to compass planes. I have used both 113 and 20 Stanley planes and much prefer the no. 20 model. I also believe that reading the wood grain has a lot to do with success in all planning especially the compass plane because grain direction often changes in the curved surface. I enjoyed learning about your experience with planes and their history.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a regional thing - I was definitely taught about spiling the way I explained it in the video. But much like some folks use the name “strakes” while others use “freeboard”, different regions may have different definitions of a given word. Thanks for your comment!
Keep them coming. I picked one up for pennies and thought it was a type 1 until today. Types don’t mean anything to me though. Unless it’s a type 11 anything 💪🏻V
Sheer: The upward curve of the deck of a ship toward the bow and stern with the lowest point at the waist. Deadrise: The angle between the bottom of the hull and a horizontal plane drawn out perpendicular to the hull's centerline or keel, looking at the hull sections. A steeper deadrise angle will mean the hull sharpens and narrows as it gets deeper, while a smaller angle means the hull bottom is flatter.
I have a later model Stanley compass plane; correct chip breaker and lever cap. I also have a NOS 1&3/4" Ohio Tool Works tapered iron. So thought I'd see if I could use it instead of the Stanley iron. All worked well except that there is no throat opening. And the frog location is not adjustable. I'm not willing to start modifying the plane enough to use the iron.
I may have to go back and review Wheeler but it's always struck me how the compass planes are bedded on the frogs with a steeper York pitch angle.Curious to find out if anyone with more experience or study, recommendes also changing the bevel angel of the cutting irons too?
Probably best to ignore it as it won’t affect operation in any way. If it gets to bugging you aesthetically, let me know and I’ll sell you a replacement 🤓
www.ebay.com/itm/363645970080?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=KuGmRdknRo6&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=2nr9NfzZQm-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY Hopefully this link will take you there
@@justplanefun that was quick!!! Thank you very much I just ordered it. I started taking it apart tonight but I’m going to stop and wait for the booklet to arrive. I’d like to get the 2 gears out so I can clean under them then paint. Plan using it on rocking chairs I make. Thanks again 👍
I get them in occasionally but I don’t have any currently. If you’re on Facebook, find the group - Can I Have It tool auction. You should be able to find one there.
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I'm a boatbuilder and I use my compass plane all the time 👍 great video as usual MJ
I wish I had more time for it. Maybe someday when the kids are old enough to help
First of all the compass plane does have many uses in boat building but the term spiling is not used in conjunction with a plane, at least not in boat building. But then with English language, who knows? Spiling in boat building usually refers to transferring the shape from one object or edge to another, IE pattern to part or one plank edge to the next. I know that's beside the point so back to compass planes. I have used both 113 and 20 Stanley planes and much prefer the no. 20 model. I also believe that reading the wood grain has a lot to do with success in all planning especially the compass plane because grain direction often changes in the curved surface. I enjoyed learning about your experience with planes and their history.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a regional thing - I was definitely taught about spiling the way I explained it in the video. But much like some folks use the name “strakes” while others use “freeboard”, different regions may have different definitions of a given word.
Thanks for your comment!
Just got one! Looking forward to trying it out. Great timing with your video too haha
Very good to know about the type 1
just got one of these little gems,took it all apart to loosen stuff. just getting it back together. i'll probably never use it in my woodworking
You never know when you’ll get a wild hair and decide to build some chairs… or a boat.
@@justplanefun LOL, i have built both chairs and small boats. if i ever have another such fit of masochism maybe i will use it!
Sou fã dessas ferramentas
Me too!
Keep them coming. I picked one up for pennies and thought it was a type 1 until today. Types don’t mean anything to me though. Unless it’s a type 11 anything 💪🏻V
I think deadrise may be a common term for the general boat shape you were referring to - the rise at the bow (and stern).
Sheer: The upward curve of the deck of a ship toward the bow and stern with the lowest point at the waist.
Deadrise: The angle between the bottom of the hull and a horizontal plane drawn out perpendicular to the hull's centerline or keel, looking at the hull sections. A steeper deadrise angle will mean the hull sharpens and narrows as it gets deeper, while a smaller angle means the hull bottom is flatter.
Great video as always, thank you. Do you happen to know if the adjustment wheel and lever cap screw was nickel plated on the old style?
Unfortunately I don’t know on that
I have a later model Stanley compass plane; correct chip breaker and lever cap. I also have a NOS 1&3/4" Ohio Tool Works tapered iron. So thought I'd see if I could use it instead of the Stanley iron. All worked well except that there is no throat opening. And the frog location is not adjustable. I'm not willing to start modifying the plane enough to use the iron.
I don’t blame you for not wanting to modify the plane.
So is the solid adjuster knob not a type1 indicator?
The solid adjuster knob is just one feature to consider. But it’s not the only one (to be cont…)
I may have to go back and review Wheeler but it's always struck me how the compass planes are bedded on the frogs with a steeper York pitch angle.Curious to find out if anyone with more experience or study, recommendes also changing the bevel angel of the cutting irons too?
Question-the 113 I just bought has a small chip out of the left corner of the lever cap. Should I ignore it or grind the end square? Thanks
Probably best to ignore it as it won’t affect operation in any way.
If it gets to bugging you aesthetically, let me know and I’ll sell you a replacement 🤓
@@justplanefun thank you 👍
I’m looking at the Kunz #113 do you have an opinion on its quality and use ability
I don’t have much experience with Kunz planes so I don’t have any good intel for you. 🫤
They’re typically considered a reputable brand out of Europe
@@justplanefun thanks
Having trouble finding that type study booklet can you offer any suggestions?
I found mine on eBay. No luck finding it there?
www.ebay.com/itm/363645970080?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=KuGmRdknRo6&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=2nr9NfzZQm-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hopefully this link will take you there
@@justplanefun no not yet and I’ve been looking. Only found one at G and M tools in Great Britain but it appears they won’t ship to US
@@Veteran1965 try the eBay link above. They’ll ship thru that
@@justplanefun that was quick!!! Thank you very much I just ordered it. I started taking it apart tonight but I’m going to stop and wait for the booklet to arrive. I’d like to get the 2 gears out so I can clean under them then paint. Plan using it on rocking chairs I make. Thanks again 👍
Got a type2 iron levercap and medallions hmu up. How's the bedrock vid coming...
Haven’t gotten a chance to get the Bedrock video together yet. Need to get to it!
@@justplanefun no hurries no worries really but I'm sure you'll do a great job... W
Do you sell restored compass planes?
I get them in occasionally but I don’t have any currently. If you’re on Facebook, find the group - Can I Have It tool auction. You should be able to find one there.
@@justplanefun ok thanks, if you do get one please let me know.
@@justplanefun I’m not on FB
A compass that shows you no direction.
You know it